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COnDEMnED
04-28-2014, 09:52 PM
This could get interesting..


http://sulia.com/channel/houston-rockets/f/03121484-29e1-4c2b-b7e9-89af00f5789c/?action=prop&source=tw&form_factor=desktop


"Houston Rockets owner Leslie Alexander told the Houston Chronicle that the NBA should allow the Los Angeles Clippers players to become free agents so that they don't have to play for Donald Sterling.

He made this suggestion to NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, who said that he would consider it."

EDIT: Full Article HERE
http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2014/04/calling-sterling-comments-disgusting-leslie-alexander-seeks-to-drive-him-from-nba/

JohnFreeman
04-28-2014, 09:54 PM
Would never happen. Team would get moved to Seattle before that.

moe94
04-28-2014, 09:54 PM
DJ to Miami
Blake to the Raps
Paul to Indiana
Big Baby to Burger King

LoneyROY7
04-28-2014, 09:54 PM
I can almost guarantee that won't happen...the team will be sold long before that's possible.

SamuraiSWISH
04-28-2014, 09:55 PM
Blake to the Raps
Why?

Black and White
04-28-2014, 09:55 PM
DJ to Miami
Blake to the Raps
Paul to Indiana
Big Baby to Burger King

This move right here would be amazing :bowdown:

strifed169
04-28-2014, 09:56 PM
So many people are going to be affected cause of one mad bitch :facepalm

sportjames23
04-28-2014, 09:58 PM
DJ to Miami
Blake to the Raps
Paul to Indiana
Big Baby to Burger King


Where do you want your internets delivered, sir? :cheers:

Eric Cartman
04-28-2014, 09:58 PM
You have to be on drugs if you think CP3 is leaving the Clippers after that $100 million dollar contract. The rest are a strong possibility.

moe94
04-28-2014, 09:59 PM
Why?

Burger King joke needed set up. :coleman:

fragokota
04-28-2014, 10:00 PM
So he will be forced to sell the team.smart blackmail and it'll work.

guy
04-28-2014, 10:06 PM
You have to be on drugs if you think CP3 is leaving the Clippers after that $100 million dollar contract. The rest are a strong possibility.

He'd still be able to get another contract like that. He'd only be 29 after this year.

Duggrr
04-28-2014, 10:08 PM
Blake Griffin to Suns :bowdown:

BlackVVaves
04-28-2014, 10:10 PM
So he will be forced to sell the team.smart blackmail and it'll work.

Sterling has presided over god-awful rosters for the majority of his tenure as owner. Why would his team returning to obscurity trigger his desire to sell the team this time around? To save face? You think a 80 year old man cares about that?

That guy isn't selling the team unless he's absolutely forced to. Unfortunately smh

Rockets(T-mac)
04-28-2014, 10:11 PM
Would never happen, that would just be nuts.

COnDEMnED
04-28-2014, 10:11 PM
Who would be the major players this offseason with cap space if this happened? Lakers, Dallas, Magic? Suns?

SpecialQue
04-28-2014, 10:19 PM
Silver undoing all of Stern's evil if this happens. CP3 in a Laker jersey as intended! :rockon:

D-FENS
04-28-2014, 10:20 PM
Just consolidate the team with the Lakers.

CT: Jordan/ Hill
PF: Griffin/ Gasol
SF: Barnes/ Young/ Dudley
SG: Bryant/ Redick/ Crawford
PG: Paul/ Nash/ Collison

christian1923
04-28-2014, 10:20 PM
Couldn't these player file lawsuits to get out of their contracts. Saying it's a bad work environment working for a racist

DuMa
04-28-2014, 10:21 PM
This is not possible. stop day dreaming

LoneyROY7
04-28-2014, 10:21 PM
:roll: Lakers fans.

Keep dreaming.

Straight_Ballin
04-28-2014, 10:24 PM
Chris Paul To The Rockets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cp3 has no desire to play with bitch beard.

Kblaze8855
04-28-2014, 10:24 PM
Who would be the major players this offseason with cap space if this happened? Lakers, Dallas, Magic? Suns?


The Bulls can get far enough under to sign a max deal if they let Boozer and Dunleavy go and trade a pick.

SilkkTheShocker
04-28-2014, 10:25 PM
The is one of the stupidest ****ing ideas I have heard. They will take their racist owner's money and they will like it.

COnDEMnED
04-28-2014, 10:26 PM
The Bulls can get far enough under to sign a max deal if they let Boozer and Dunleavy go and trade a pick.
I wonder where Anthony would end up with all this madness going on.

fragokota
04-28-2014, 10:27 PM
Sterling has presided over god-awful rosters for the majority of his tenure as owner. Why would his team returning to obscurity trigger his desire to sell the team this time around? To save face? You think a 80 year old man cares about that?

That guy isn't selling the team unless he's absolutely forced to. Unfortunately smh

So imagine he has two options:

a. Sell before he loses all his stars for nothing while his franchise has tremendous added value

b. Keep a team with no sponsors, no fanbase,no tickets, basically no revenues and no star players to attract

What would you do?

alanLA92
04-28-2014, 10:27 PM
Unlikely but would be funny to see Paul in a Lakers jersey 3 yrs later than what was going to happen before Stern vetoed the s*** out of the trade. :lol

SpecialQue
04-28-2014, 10:33 PM
Unlikely but would be funny to see Paul in a Lakers jersey 3 yrs later than what was going to happen before Stern vetoed the s*** out of the trade. :lol

Imagine this happens and the Lakers get a top pick in the draft? :eek:

qrich
04-28-2014, 10:36 PM
Would be such a joke.

But hey, I'd rather a clean roster happen with Geffen, Frankie Muniz, Billy Crystal, Rihanna, Michael Clark Duncan's family & Penny Marshall as owners and retool that way as opposed to keeping it as is and letting Magic purchase the squad.

Inferno
04-28-2014, 10:36 PM
:roll: Lakers fans.

Keep dreaming.

You are you an actual Clips fan or just a BG stan? :coleman:

COnDEMnED
04-28-2014, 10:52 PM
Would be such a joke.

But hey, I'd rather a clean roster happen with Geffen, Frankie Muniz, Billy Crystal, Rihanna, Michael Clark Duncan's family & Penny Marshall as owners and retool that way as opposed to keeping it as is and letting Magic purchase the squad.
Frankie Muniz still has money?

bagelred
04-28-2014, 10:53 PM
This whole Donald Sterling had definitely jumped the shark. WTF....

IGOTGAME
04-28-2014, 11:03 PM
This is going way to far.

imnew09
04-28-2014, 11:03 PM
CP3 and Blake to the Lakers.

LoneyROY7
04-28-2014, 11:04 PM
You are you an actual Clips fan or just a BG stan? :coleman:

:facepalm

Da fuq? Been reppin' the Clips since '05.

SpecialQue
04-28-2014, 11:04 PM
CP3 and Blake to the Lakers.

It's only fair. :confusedshrug:

COnDEMnED
04-28-2014, 11:06 PM
Full article here:

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2014/04/calling-sterling-comments-disgusting-leslie-alexander-seeks-to-drive-him-from-nba/

DStebb716
04-28-2014, 11:06 PM
If this were to happen, I would guess that a good chunk of the players would sign right back in LA as long as the sale is quick.

yobore
04-28-2014, 11:08 PM
Would be such a joke.

But hey, I'd rather a clean roster happen with Geffen, Frankie Muniz, Billy Crystal, Rihanna, Michael Clark Duncan's family & Penny Marshall as owners and retool that way as opposed to keeping it as is and letting Magic purchase the squad.
If I'm understanding you correctly you are insane or hate people with HIV

zoom17
04-28-2014, 11:09 PM
If this happens:biggums:

RoundMoundOfReb
04-28-2014, 11:11 PM
DJ to Miami
Blake to the Raps
Paul to Indiana
Big Baby to Burger King
:applause:

sdot_thadon
04-28-2014, 11:15 PM
So if this were to go down there's a possibility no one would sign back and the clippers would have an empty roster? Forfeit games until sale lol.

Kakapopo
04-28-2014, 11:16 PM
Chris Paul To The Rockets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come on... do you really see that working out :oldlol:

COnDEMnED
04-28-2014, 11:21 PM
So if this were to go down there's a possibility no one would sign back and the clippers would have an empty roster? Forfeit games until sale lol.
People trying to stay in the league, or get back in the league, would probably fill the roster up. Von Wafer, Chris Mihm, Smush Parker types.. and the unfortunate draft picks (if allowed any).

Ethem
04-28-2014, 11:22 PM
Those asking who has cap room for this...

The cap would obviously have to be temporarily raised if this actually went through.

Beastmode88
04-28-2014, 11:32 PM
Yeah right, if that happens they will be worse than the bucks in a few years.

Derka
04-28-2014, 11:36 PM
Nice going OP, you just sprung like...46 free agency boners on these posters in here.

COnDEMnED
04-28-2014, 11:39 PM
Nice going OP, you just sprung like...46 free agency boners on these posters in here.
I had one myself when I first stumbled upon the article. :banana:
It's all unlikely, but crazy things have happened.

Derka
04-28-2014, 11:40 PM
I had one myself when I first stumbled upon the article. :banana:
It's all unlikely, but crazy things have happened.

I had a split second where I was like "Danny's got some cap flexibility this year!"

Then I remembered we're Boston and free agents avoid Boston like its herpes.

gts
04-28-2014, 11:47 PM
Yeah right, if that happens they will be worse than the bucks immediately.

fixed



I'd imagine they'd do something like the amnesty system where the first teams that could make offers would be teams under the cap followed by everyone else... They'd also have to make it so the contracts don't count against taxes for a couple years, allow teams to go over the cap to sign them as free agents.. this would be unprecedented they'd have to make it fair for everyone, players and teams alike.

We're not talking a flood of players, maybe only 5 or 6 that would be heavily chased...

MUGEN
04-28-2014, 11:51 PM
if possible dumbandre would be a nice fit for the Blazers I think.

But anywho seriously doubt it would happen.

eliteballer
04-29-2014, 01:27 AM
At long last CP3 comes home where he truly belongs...:pimp: :pimp: :pimp:

oarabbus
04-29-2014, 01:49 AM
Chris Paul To The Rockets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:roll: what a joke. Reduce CP3 to Harden's spot up shooter, great idea :oldlol:

Cocaine80s
04-29-2014, 01:55 AM
they should just hold a draft lottery of the clippers team for everyone out of the playoffs

ThePhantomCreep
04-29-2014, 02:00 AM
Yeah right, if that happens they will be worse than the bucks in a few years.

IOW, they'll go back to being the Clippers we have all come to know and mock.

Relinquish
04-29-2014, 02:04 AM
Blake to D. C. :applause: :applause:

JordanL
04-29-2014, 02:05 AM
People are missing the point, that outside of the NBA bylaws, this option would use Federal workplace laws to allow players the option to leave. Sterling would have to sue the NBA in a Federal court, and it would result in ALL the recordings being subpoenaed, the content of which might actually force the DoJ to investigate him for other civil rights violations.

Sterling has NO good options if the league does this, and the league can do this without invoking any bylaws.

Dbrog
04-29-2014, 02:06 AM
I think it's funny that people saying the players should just be able to switch teams from this. Think about if this happened in your workplace? Guess what, the owner pays your fcking bills so you just have to deal with it...especially if you signed a contract. You are welcome to break it if you want, but don't be so entitled to think that you should be able to just get around all the rules because you are upset about words. NBA players have too much entitlement these days. Be grateful you are playing a game you love and don't have to deal with REAL racism like Russell/Wilt/Oscar had to deal with. Btw, no civil rights violations right here. Saying something doesn't qualify. CP just got a massive contract extension and he's black...what would your grounds be?

ShackEelOKneel
04-29-2014, 02:07 AM
:lebronamazed:

Myth
04-29-2014, 02:10 AM
I get this solution, but I hope it doesn't happen as a Blazer fan. CP3 and Griffin would join up Rockets/Heat or other superstars to make knew, better super teams, leaving smaller teams that have been building up, including my Blazers, in the dust. The only player I can see Portland going for that would make an impact is DJ since Griffin and CP3's spots are already filled in Portland, but even then, it is still unlikely they land him.

OmniStrife
04-29-2014, 02:50 AM
Blake Griffin to Suns :bowdown:
Aww shiiiieeet....

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww175/bartek1018/DaffyDuck-Fap.gif

Thunderstruck
04-29-2014, 02:58 AM
Aww shiiiieeet....

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww175/bartek1018/DaffyDuck-Fap.gif
If Blake goes anywhere it's back home to OKC.

GimmeThat
04-29-2014, 03:07 AM
I don't think it's a bad idea

I think the end result is going to be dissolve franchise/owner kicked out/ move franchice, somewhere along the line and in no particular order.

I think if you let go all the players, you create a competitive edge problem for the new franchise. Unless you say, you let go of all players, while giving the franchise birdright to players, or to turn players into picks if they choose to pay out the players remaining contract (because, the solution of letting go of all players means some players may not get signed again)

the latter part of turning players into picks might be a little bit more tricky, but I don't think it can be that difficult if we make a "special draft year" type of scenario, since you know, lockout happens.

But I heard that many people are eager to get into the NBA ownership anyways, whether or not to allow the franchise up for re-location. THAT, is probably where some soul search ought to be answered.


Personally, I don't think the Franchise should be limited to that of the LA area, but to be within the division. I'm not saying the NBA shouldn't care about local fans, but if you ever want to truly be a global business, are you really not going to let the best suitted owner run the franchise and let out of region fans be out of region fans?

russwest0
04-29-2014, 03:09 AM
If Blake goes anywhere it's back home to OKC.

Hell no. Keep that flopping bitch away from here. Wouldn't fit in at all either.

BlazerRed
04-29-2014, 03:10 AM
I think you all of you fools are overestimating the power of Silver. This guy owns a $700 million business, the NBA can't just take that from him :facepalm

MVBallin2K
04-29-2014, 03:19 AM
It's a pipe dream but I'm all for if this happens. Even beyond being a Laker fan, the Clippers have always been in the Lakers shadow even when they're the better team.

Let the team dissolve, move it to Seattle or somewhere else to get a new start. Let the players enter free agency and see where things go. Even if you sell the team that stink is still going to be there for a long time. It's not like there aren't teams with cap space this year that wouldn't give most of those guys homes and decent contracts.

9512
04-29-2014, 04:14 AM
Divide & conquer.

The NBA owners are divided and this can benefit fans more:roll:

Adam Silver
04-29-2014, 04:23 AM
Come on guys, you are smarter than this. My public statement about allowing players to become free agents is just me saying something extreme to get the media to believe I'm serious, but I'm not actually considering that.

russwest0
04-29-2014, 04:37 AM
I think you all of you fools are overestimating the power of Silver. This guy owns a $700 million business, the NBA can't just take that from him :facepalm

This.

russwest0
04-29-2014, 04:38 AM
Just force him to sell and move the team to Seattle. That is one of the best options that can happen right now. The NBA wants a team back in Seattle, and they HAVE to do something about sterling. It is the only option that makes sense

Just based off of reading ISH the only reasonable option at this point appears to be merging the roster with the LA Lakers and then moving the team to Seattle.

Joyner82reload
04-29-2014, 05:10 AM
LOL @ anyone thinking this would actually happen. This would probably make the league, and professional sports fold, as it would set the precedent that the league would bankrupt and or cease your $500+ million business because you said something offensive.

If they want to force him to sell the team, that's fine but it should be bought by the league for fair market value. It's absurd to attempt to quite literally tear down an empire because the guy said he doesn't want black people at his games. It's freedom of speech, it might offend you but it is quite literally his games. He owns the freaking team, if he doesn't want someone at them, quite literally anyone including Magic Johnson, he can make that happen.

As Cuban said this is a very slippery slope, and let's be real every owner says controversial things in their personal life, just like the rest of us. I guess we should also cease the Bobcats from Jordan for this quote “I ain’t taking pictures with no *****.”

BlazerRed
04-29-2014, 06:21 AM
LOL @ anyone thinking this would actually happen. This would probably make the league, and professional sports fold, as it would set the precedent that the league would bankrupt and or cease your $500+ million business because you said something offensive.

If they want to force him to sell the team, that's fine but it should be bought by the league for fair market value. It's absurd to attempt to quite literally tear down an empire because the guy said he doesn't want black people at his games. It's freedom of speech, it might offend you but it is quite literally his games. He owns the freaking team, if he doesn't want someone at them, quite literally anyone including Magic Johnson, he can make that happen.

As Cuban said this is a very slippery slope, and let's be real every owner says controversial things in their personal life, just like the rest of us. I guess we should also cease the Bobcats from Jordan for this quote “I ain’t taking pictures with no *****.”

Some sense in this thread :eek:

ShackEelOKneel
04-29-2014, 06:28 AM
It is interesting to think about, but not happening.

dunksby
04-29-2014, 07:18 AM
Are they good? Can the Heat get them?

Had to do it lol

ShackEelOKneel
04-29-2014, 07:22 AM
Are they good? Can the Heat get them?

Had to do it lol

All they need is Adam Silver.

niko
04-29-2014, 07:22 AM
He's not considering that. Silly topic.

Adam Silver
04-29-2014, 07:25 AM
He's not considering that. Silly topic.

Of course not. I had to say something to quiet complaints until things blow over.

HylianNightmare
04-29-2014, 08:38 AM
i would personally be so hard if that happened

dude77
04-29-2014, 09:52 AM
I guess we should also cease the Bobcats from Jordan for this quote “I ain’t taking pictures with no *****.”

what was the word ? .. grown men(******) lol nevermind

COnDEMnED
04-29-2014, 10:05 AM
I guess todays the day we find out what Adam's thinking should be done with this situation. Just so happens LAC is playing today too, so the punishment will be announced before they play game 5?

Manila
04-29-2014, 10:32 AM
So he will be forced to sell the team.smart blackmail and it'll work.

Your sir, is a racist.

lilgodfather1
04-29-2014, 10:32 AM
Chris paul, lebron james, blake, bosh, wade. Your miami heat.

No seriously this would be the funniest thing ever.

toooo
04-29-2014, 10:33 AM
I guess todays the day we find out what Adam's thinking should be done with this situation. Just so happens LAC is playing today too, so the punishment will be announced before they play game 5?
Yes. By 2 pm ET

HurricaneKid
04-29-2014, 10:34 AM
[QUOTE=Joyner82reload]LOL @ anyone thinking this would actually happen. This would probably make the league, and professional sports fold, as it would set the precedent that the league would bankrupt and or cease your $500+ million business because you said something offensive.

If they want to force him to sell the team, that's fine but it should be bought by the league for fair market value. It's absurd to attempt to quite literally tear down an empire because the guy said he doesn't want black people at his games. It's freedom of speech, it might offend you but it is quite literally his games. He owns the freaking team, if he doesn't want someone at them, quite literally anyone including Magic Johnson, he can make that happen.

As Cuban said this is a very slippery slope, and let's be real every owner says controversial things in their personal life, just like the rest of us. I guess we should also cease the Bobcats from Jordan for this quote

pegasus
04-29-2014, 10:47 AM
People are missing the point, that outside of the NBA bylaws, this option would use Federal workplace laws to allow players the option to leave. Sterling would have to sue the NBA in a Federal court, and it would result in ALL the recordings being subpoenaed, the content of which might actually force the DoJ to investigate him for other civil rights violations.

Sterling has NO good options if the league does this, and the league can do this without invoking any bylaws.

The state of California does not allow covert recordings be used as evidence in court if all parties to the conversation did not consent.

The only option is to shame Sterling into selling the team, but even then he won't have to. Players will need to sabotage the team by not playing their best, and/or opting out whenever they can, and/or not signing with the team once they're free agents. No black athlete will probably sign with the Clippers again as long as Sterling is the owner, so his end is inevitable but might not be imminent.

dude77
04-29-2014, 10:57 AM
Days later and people still don't understand. The NBA CANNOT force him to sell. Thats the problem. All 29 owners want him gone. Hell two weeks ago before any of this happened, 29 owners wanted him gone. But they can't. Sterling is an old, racist man. But he made his millions as a lawyer. And he knows they can't make him sell. The only way to get him out is by leveraging his asset. If Sterling sells now he probably gets 1.2B+. Take CP3 and BG off the team, decimate the franchise by taking away the next 10 years of draft picks? Now his franchise is worth 700M. Is his old stubborn self going to sell now? Even if not, his wife is going to divorce him for half of the 1.2B and that would force him to sell.

No Clippers will EVER hit FA. This is about the NBA finding ways to leverage Sterling out of the NBA because they can't just kick him out.


10 yrs of draft picks ? lol .. this is getting a little out of hand .. meanwhile upstanding black gentlemen like larry johnson(and he's not the only one who most likely thinks like this)lets us know 'what he really thinks' .. no fks given ..


mark cuban makes a good point ..




"But regardless of your background, regardless of the history they have, if we're taking something somebody said in their home and we're trying to turn it into something that leads to you being forced to divest property in any way, shape or form, that's not the United States of America. I don't want to be part of that."

Cuban called it "damn scary" to consider removing somebody from the NBA because of their private thoughts.



http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/mark-cuban-slams-sterling-bigot-favor-booting-clips-owner-article-1.1772540

Dresta
04-29-2014, 10:59 AM
Couldn't these player file lawsuits to get out of their contracts. Saying it's a bad work environment working for a racist
No, provided he isn't overtly racist at work and with his employees. This private conversation really has nothing to do with the players, everyone just feels they have to get involved because, you know, it's racism, and that's gotta be stamped out by any means possible.

dude77
04-29-2014, 11:02 AM
scary indeed mr. cuban .. yeah lets throw this guy out and take away his property/wealth/investment because he hurt our feelings in a conversation you weren't supposed to have even heard

HurricaneKid
04-29-2014, 11:05 AM
10 yrs of draft picks ? lol .. this is getting a little out of hand .. meanwhile upstanding black gentlemen like larry johnson(and he's not the only one who most likely thinks like this)lets us know 'what he really thinks' .. no fks given ..

Donald Sterling's presence as an owner lowers the valuation of all NBA franchises. You think the owners don't want him out? The thread is from a link where another owner talks openly about how to leverage him out of the league. The draft picks are just another theoretical way of leveraging him out.

I argued for him to get removed 7 years ago.

Dresta
04-29-2014, 11:14 AM
Donald Sterling's presence as an owner lowers the valuation of all NBA franchises. You think the owners don't want him out? The thread is from a link where another owner talks openly about how to leverage him out of the league. The draft picks are just another theoretical way of leveraging him out.

I argued for him to get removed 7 years ago.
Does it? Why does it do that? Are less people gonna be watching basketball because of a leaked recording of a senile, old billionaire owner? Less Clipper fans perhaps, but i don't see how any of the other franchises are going to suffer. They will want to force him out rather because it makes them look good in front of the fans, players, coaches and media. The whole thing will bring more attention to the NBA and probably end up making it even more money.

Dresta
04-29-2014, 11:16 AM
Days later and people still don't understand. The NBA CANNOT force him to sell. Thats the problem. All 29 owners want him gone. Hell two weeks ago before any of this happened, 29 owners wanted him gone. But they can't. Sterling is an old, racist man. But he made his millions as a lawyer. And he knows they can't make him sell. The only way to get him out is by leveraging his asset. If Sterling sells now he probably gets 1.2B+. Take CP3 and BG off the team, decimate the franchise by taking away the next 10 years of draft picks? Now his franchise is worth 700M. Is his old stubborn self going to sell now? Even if not, his wife is going to divorce him for half of the 1.2B and that would force him to sell.

No Clippers will EVER hit FA. This is about the NBA finding ways to leverage Sterling out of the NBA because they can't just kick him out.
So you're saying the league should blackmail him? Sounds legal.

dude77
04-29-2014, 11:16 AM
Donald Sterling's presence as an owner lowers the valuation of all NBA franchises. You think the owners don't want him out? The thread is from a link where another owner talks openly about how to leverage him out of the league. The draft picks are just another theoretical way of leveraging him out.

I argued for him to get removed 7 years ago.

but you're saying this because of some 'private conversation' .. possibly illegally taped .. that's my point .. so we can throw people out, take away their property/investments because of their private thoughts ? says mark cuban .. slippery slope ..

you said you wanted him gone 7 yrs ago .. suddenly now everyone wanted him gone years ago too lol .. then wtf didn't they try ? .. they let him sit right there and do his thing for years and years .. na don't think so

PJR
04-29-2014, 11:26 AM
So you're saying the league should blackmail him? Sounds legal.

Actually, it pretty much is. :oldlol:

Per Lester Munson




Q: Is it possible for Silver and the NBA to terminate Sterling's franchise ownership?

A: Yes. Under the terms of Paragraph 13 of the constitution, the owners can terminate another owner's franchise with a vote of three-fourths of the NBA Board of Governors, which is composed of all 30 owners. The power to terminate is limited to things like gambling and fraud in the application for ownership, but it also includes a provision for termination when an owner "fails to fulfill" a "contractual obligation" in "such a way as to affect the [NBA] or its members adversely." Silver and the owners could assert that Sterling's statements violated the constitution's requirements to conduct business on a "reasonable" and "ethical" level.

Any owner or Silver can initiate the termination procedure with a written charge describing the violation. Sterling would have five days to respond to the charge with a written answer. The commissioner would then schedule a special meeting of the NBA Board of Governors within 10 days. Both sides would have a chance to present their evidence, and then the board would vote. If three-fourths of the board members vote to terminate, then Sterling would face termination of his ownership. It would require a vote of two-thirds of the board to reduce the termination to a fine. Terminating a franchise would obviously be a drastic remedy, but the potential of the termination procedure gives Silver and the other owners vast leverage in any discussion with Sterling about an involuntary sale of his team.

Q: Sterling is notoriously litigious. Can he go to court to stop Silver from punishing him?

A: Not effectively. When Silver issues his punishment to Sterling, the decision is final. The constitution provides in Paragraph 24(m) that a commissioner's decision shall be "final, binding, and conclusive" and shall be as final as an award of arbitration. It is almost impossible to find a judge in the United States judicial system who would set aside an award of arbitration. Sterling can file a lawsuit, but he would face a humiliating defeat early in the process. There is no antitrust theory or principle that would help him against Silver and the NBA. He could claim an antitrust violation, for example, if he were trying to move his team to a different market. But under the terms of the NBA constitution, he has no chance to succeed in litigation over punishment.

scm5
04-29-2014, 11:32 AM
CP3, BG, DJ all agree to take significantly smaller contracts for two years to play for the Lakers

Jamal Crawford signs for the MLE.

Pau Gasol resigned via Bird Rights.

LAL get #1 overall draft pick and pick Andrew Wiggins

CP3/Nash
Kobe/Crawford
Wiggins/Crawford
BG/Pau
DJ/Pau

Lakers 3-peat.

Not gonna lie, this was the first thing that crossed my mind upon reading this.

At least I'm willing to admit it right?!

dude77
04-29-2014, 11:36 AM
A: Yes. Under the terms of Paragraph 13 of the constitution, the owners can terminate another owner's franchise with a vote of three-fourths of the NBA Board of Governors, which is composed of all 30 owners. The power to terminate is limited to things like gambling and fraud in the application for ownership, but it also includes a provision for termination when an owner "fails to fulfill" a "contractual obligation" in "such a way as to affect the [NBA] or its members adversely." Silver and the owners could assert that Sterling's statements violated the constitution's requirements to conduct business on a "reasonable" and "ethical" level.

interesting but ..

assert that his statement violated the requirements .. private, possibly illegally taped statement .. that slippery slope .. do we have actual evidence that sterling has 'not fulfilled' his contractual obligations besides his private thoughts ? .. this is why it's gonna be hard to just throw him out

HurricaneKid
04-29-2014, 11:37 AM
Does it? Why does it do that? Are less people gonna be watching basketball because of a leaked recording of a senile, old billionaire owner? Less Clipper fans perhaps, but i don't see how any of the other franchises are going to suffer. They will want to force him out rather because it makes them look good in front of the fans, players, coaches and media. The whole thing will bring more attention to the NBA and probably end up making it even more money.

Why does it? I can't tell if you are being serious. Because massive sponsors are pulling out every minute this goes on. Because fans aren't going to go to games that will support a line of thinking that so offends them. Because this is going to hurt them at the bargaining table with their TV partners. Because if Sterling remains an owner in the NBA they won't be able to garner the level of investment they would like because he is probably going to be sued again in the next few years and we can start this cycle all over again. If you don't think this is massively financially relevant to the owners in the NBA you are insane.

Dresta
04-29-2014, 12:13 PM
Why does it? I can't tell if you are being serious. Because massive sponsors are pulling out every minute this goes on. Because fans aren't going to go to games that will support a line of thinking that so offends them. Because this is going to hurt them at the bargaining table with their TV partners. Because if Sterling remains an owner in the NBA they won't be able to garner the level of investment they would like because he is probably going to be sued again in the next few years and we can start this cycle all over again. If you don't think this is massively financially relevant to the owners in the NBA you are insane.
You've just made this all up.

Nice try though. Guess what: no one in real life gives a shit what some senile 80 year old man had to say in his private conversations; sponsors aren't gonna 'pull out' it isn't going to affect an tv deals, and fans are still gonna go to/ watch the games. Several Premier League teams are owned by out and out criminals, and yet it remains the most popular league in the world (somewhat because of the money these criminals invested in it).

Keep up the inanities :applause:

NumberSix
04-29-2014, 12:25 PM
I'm mostly gonna stay away from this story, but I'll say this.

Some 80 year old jewish billionaire told his gold digging mistress not to post instagram photos with blacks. Am I supposed to care? Because I don't. It's not exactly a big secret how people in the jewish community talk about blacks behind closed doors.

Parps
04-29-2014, 12:32 PM
Can the players just put zero effort in and collect cheques until their contracts run out?

That would probably hurt him the most. Fans aren't going to watch the players mess up on purpose. Players put zero wear and tear on their bodies. Team couldn't sign any new players due to cap restrictions.

Only downside is a few guys may hurt their legacies (missing out on certain accolades, etc)

longtime lurker
04-29-2014, 12:34 PM
I'm mostly gonna stay away from this story, but I'll say this.

Some 80 year old jewish billionaire told his gold digging mistress not to post instagram photos with blacks. Am I supposed to care? Because I don't. It's not exactly a big secret how people in the jewish community talk about blacks behind closed doors.

No one cares what you think

Dresta
04-29-2014, 12:36 PM
Can the players just put zero effort in and collect cheques until their contracts run out?

That would probably hurt him the most. Fans aren't going to watch the players mess up on purpose. Players put zero wear and tear on their bodies. Team couldn't sign any new players due to cap restrictions.

Only downside is a few guys may hurt their legacies (missing out on certain accolades, etc)
They can play badly on purpose, but not overtly, otherwise they can be fined.

dude77
04-29-2014, 12:40 PM
Can the players just put zero effort in and collect cheques until their contracts run out?

That would probably hurt him the most. Fans aren't going to watch the players mess up on purpose. Players put zero wear and tear on their bodies. Team couldn't sign any new players due to cap restrictions.

Only downside is a few guys may hurt their legacies (missing out on certain accolades, etc)

I don't see why they would do that .. I wouldn't .. even if you wanna rebel against sterling .. you're only hurting yourself by looking like shit on the court .. if they were to do that for an extended time I mean

NumberSix
04-29-2014, 12:40 PM
No one cares what you think
Fair enough, but I'm just saying...

Of all the things Donald Sterling has previously done, if THIS is the thing you decide to get outraged about, I don't take your outrage too seriously.

dude77
04-29-2014, 12:53 PM
Fair enough, but I'm just saying...

Of all the things Donald Sterling has previously done, if THIS is the thing you decide to get outraged about, I don't take your outrage too seriously.

pretty much this .. seems like the absolute worst thing you can do these days is 'offend' someone .. verbally ..

such sensitive little fggts walking around :oldlol:

HurricaneKid
04-29-2014, 12:53 PM
So you're saying the league should blackmail him? Sounds legal.

Its not blackmail. Its leverage. He has done irreparable harm to the NBA brand. They are well within their rights to push him out using legal methods to do so.

HurricaneKid
04-29-2014, 12:56 PM
You've just made this all up.

Nice try though. Guess what: no one in real life gives a shit what some senile 80 year old man had to say in his private conversations; sponsors aren't gonna 'pull out' it isn't going to affect an tv deals, and fans are still gonna go to/ watch the games. Several Premier League teams are owned by out and out criminals, and yet it remains the most popular league in the world (somewhat because of the money these criminals invested in it).

Keep up the inanities :applause:

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10851689/sponsors-ponder-deals-los-angeles-clippers-donald-sterling-purported-racist-comments

And sponsors all over the league are threatening THEIR owners to get this taken care of.

I will not respond to your idiocy any longer. I have repeatedly brought facts into the discussion and you maintain your insistence on disproven ideas.

dude77
04-29-2014, 01:03 PM
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10851689/sponsors-ponder-deals-los-angeles-clippers-donald-sterling-purported-racist-comments

And sponsors all over the league are threatening THEIR owners to get this taken care of.

I will not respond to your idiocy any longer. I have repeatedly brought facts into the discussion and you maintain your insistence on disproven ideas.


source ?

COnDEMnED
04-29-2014, 01:49 PM
10 minute warning. Press conference soon.

gts
04-29-2014, 01:51 PM
You've just made this all up.

Nice try though. Guess what: no one in real life gives a shit what some senile 80 year old man had to say in his private conversations; sponsors aren't gonna 'pull out' it isn't going to affect an tv deals, and fans are still gonna go to/ watch the games. Several Premier League teams are owned by out and out criminals, and yet it remains the most popular league in the world (somewhat because of the money these criminals invested in it).

Keep up the inanities :applause:

already done...

Severed ties yesterday

State Farm
CarMax,
RedBull,
Virgin America,
AQUA-hydrate,
Amtrak
Kia
Yokohama
Chumash Casino,
Mercedes Benz,
LumberLiquidators,
LoanMart,
Sprint,
Miller Lite,
Mandalay Bay Resort,
Ford
Commerce Casino.

Fox Sports one has removed all Clipper signage and is reviewing the situation

Dresta
04-29-2014, 01:58 PM
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10851689/sponsors-ponder-deals-los-angeles-clippers-donald-sterling-purported-racist-comments

And sponsors all over the league are threatening THEIR owners to get this taken care of.

I will not respond to your idiocy any longer. I have repeatedly brought facts into the discussion and you maintain your insistence on disproven ideas.
Sorry, i don't see anything in there that doesn't relate specifically to the Clippers. What does that have to do with the other owners losing their sponsors? If you think this event will somehow cripple the NBA financially if they don't boot Sterling out you are out of your mind. In fact, the owners are far more likely to be worried about a precedent being set where you can force someone to give up their assets for saying something people find offensive in a private conversation.

What facts have you brought? I'm yet to see a single one.

dude77
04-29-2014, 01:58 PM
already done...

Severed ties yesterday

State Farm
CarMax,
RedBull,
Virgin America,
AQUA-hydrate,
Amtrak
Kia
Yokohama
Chumash Casino,
Mercedes Benz,
LumberLiquidators,
LoanMart,
Sprint,
Miller Lite,
Mandalay Bay Resort,
Ford
Commerce Casino.

Fox Sports one has removed all Clipper signage and is reviewing the situation

not all of those 'severed ties' .. not yet anyways .. they 'put it on hold'

Jameerthefear
04-29-2014, 01:58 PM
This can't be real.

Sarcastic
04-29-2014, 02:12 PM
I always knew Chris Paul would find his way to the Knicks, after the toast.

COnDEMnED
04-29-2014, 02:41 PM
Ok, so after watching the press conference with Adam Silver, he stated the Clippers players will not be free agents at the end of this season, but he also answered a question earlier in the interview where he stated if players no longer wanted to play under the ownership of Sterling (I'm guessing they are referencing if they fail to remove him from ownership here), they will cross that bridge when they get there in giving said players an exit strategy from the Clippers.

I expect this will be the story of the summer. I can't see Don letting this go without a lawsuit.

Jameerthefear
04-29-2014, 02:42 PM
I always knew Chris Paul would find his way to the Knicks, after the toast.
Keep dreaming bud.

Kiddlovesnets
04-29-2014, 02:52 PM
I always knew Chris Paul would find his way to the Knicks, after the toast.

knicks fans trolling again, like always.
:roll:

LoneyROY7
04-29-2014, 02:58 PM
Annnddddd we can put this ridiculous thread to bed.

GOBB
04-29-2014, 07:30 PM
Blake to Sixers. :bowdown:

qrich
04-29-2014, 07:32 PM
Fair enough, but I'm just saying...

Of all the things Donald Sterling has previously done, if THIS is the thing you decide to get outraged about, I don't take your outrage too seriously.

That is because most people don't follow news and/or are sheep and/or are fairweather fans.

Bigsmoke
04-29-2014, 07:34 PM
Blake to Sixers. :bowdown:

Good luck in the draft because Blake ain't going there:oldlol:

GOBB
04-29-2014, 07:35 PM
Good luck in the draft because Blake ain't going there:oldlol:

No one knows, no one knows. :pimp:

outbreak
04-29-2014, 07:35 PM
Ok, so after watching the press conference with Adam Silver, he stated the Clippers players will not be free agents at the end of this season, but he also answered a question earlier in the interview where he stated if players no longer wanted to play under the ownership of Sterling (I'm guessing they are referencing if they fail to remove him from ownership here), they will cross that bridge when they get there in giving said players an exit strategy from the Clippers.

I expect this will be the story of the summer. I can't see Don letting this go without a lawsuit.

Can whoever the lakers draft this season refuse to play with 2 sex offenders and become a free agent?

COnDEMnED
04-29-2014, 07:40 PM
Can whoever the lakers draft this season refuse to play with 2 sex offenders and become a free agent?
If were talking about Exum, if he didn't want to play for the Lakers, who drafted him, I believe he could continue to play overseas, so yes and no. He can refuse to play, but if he does decide to play in the NBA, Lakers are where he would start. (I think that's how it works)

Who are the two sex offender you were referring too? I'm a little slow today.