Does people really consider the 2002 Lakers championship as a real one?

[livinglegend]

I mean come on! It s been proved that it was rigged and that Kings should have won it in 6. Despite all the rigging, Kings still kept in close in the 4th.
Do some people really consider that a real championship?

[Yankstar]

I mean come on! It s been proved that it was rigged and that Kings should have won it in 6. Despite all the rigging, Kings still kept in close in the 4th.
Do some people really consider that a real championship?

See last years finals... :facepalm

[JohnFreeman]

Well, they have the banner hanging.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Realer than a lockout ring tbh.

[livinglegend]

Well, they have the banner hanging.

That banner is worth even less than Kobe s 1st defensive teams.

[eliteballer]

Actually when people go and review the entire game(with every foul in the 4th broken down) on message boards it's been proven time and again Game 6 was legit..ISHiot.

Oh...and the Kings got more FT the entire series AND Game 5 had a BIGGER FT difference in FAVOR OF THE KINGS,

[nzahir]

See last years finals... :facepalm
Least amount of free throws shot all time by a team in a 7 game series was mia last year so kill yourself. Rigging was clear against mia
:cheers:

[russwest0]

about as real as 2006/2012 heat championships

[livinglegend]

Realer than a lockout ring tbh.

Grammar gods dont agree with your thoughts since that word doesnt exist.

[kennethgriffin]

all they said was they rigged the games to go 7 to sell tv ratings

refs have been and are still doing this since the beginning of time

2002 just happened to get caught and made public


where theres smoke. theres usually fire

i doubt that the 1 time in nba history that something gets caught taking place. that its the only time it ever happened


sterns been puppeteering this league since the dawn of time

take all of kobe/duncan/shaq/jordan/magic/bird/lebron's rings with a grain of salt. or give them full credit.. who cares

any team from the 80's to sterns last year in office has been affected

[nzahir]

Realer than a lockout ring tbh.
Whats the lockout have to do with the playoffs? Playoffs werent shortened? No wonder 99% of la fans are though of as idiots.

[JohnFreeman]

about as real as 2006/2012 heat championships
I honestly want someone to make a video of the "bad" calls against the Thunder. Durant disappeared in key stretches like the skinny fakkit he is. Westbrook was the only one with a bit of heart.

[SilkkTheShocker]

That's why it alway laugh at these Kobe stans that hate on Lebron's rings. The 2002 ring is as tainted as it gets. :lol

[livinglegend]

all they said was they rigged the games to go 7 to sell tv ratings

refs have been and are still doing this since the beginning of time

2002 just happened to get caught and made public


where theres smoke. theres usually fire

i doubt that the 1 time in nba history that something gets caught taking place. that its the only time it ever happened


sterns been puppeteering this league since the dawn of time

take all of kobe/duncan/shaq/jordan/magic/bird/lebron's rings with a grain of salt. or give them full credit.. who cares

any team from the 80's to sterns last year in office has been affected

I know that wasnt the only case ( 2000 ECF lakers + 2010 game 7 lakers were pretty bad also), but 2002 was the worse.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Realer than a lockout ring tbh.
Keep telling yourself that son. Maybe you will actually be able to convince yourself one day.

[imdaman99]

*Do

[buddha]

if we were taking away championships because of rigged playoff games then every single championship would be rescinded because there hasn't been one year of playoff basketball without a rigged game.

[The Iron Fist]

http://www.nba.com/media/lakers/history_lakers_three.jpg

Looks real to me.

[HEAT111]

Asterisk for sure :lol , Kobe stans are in denial.

[livinglegend]

if we were taking away championships because of rigged playoff games then every single championship would be rescinded because there hasn't been one year of playoff basketball without a rigged game.

Yeah, refs always have a favorite, but some teams overcome that obstacle ( 2013 Heat) and that makes it a DOUBLE championship!

[JohnFreeman]

It's a tainted ring, but they still have the trophy..

[ThePhantomCreep]

Whole lotta butthurt in this thread.

[Relinquish]

Actually when people go and review the entire game(with every foul in the 4th broken down) on message boards it's been proven time and again Game 6 was legit..ISHiot.

Oh...and the Kings got more FT the entire series AND Game 5 had a BIGGER FT difference in FAVOR OF THE KINGS,

So legit right? 27 FTs in the fourth quarter alone for the Lakers. Also, don't forget the play where Kobe elbowed Bibby in the nose intentionally and wasn't called for the foul. Nice try though Kobetard. :applause: :applause:

[Relinquish]

about as real as 2006/2012 heat championships

2012? :facepalm

[livinglegend]

So legit right? 27 FTs in the fourth quarter alone for the Lakers. Also, don't forget the play where Kobe elbowed Bibby in the nose intentionally and wasn't called for the foul. Nice try though Kobetard. :applause: :applause:

He is a Lakers fans and he used to 20+ fts in the 4th quarter of games in which his team was in danger. 20+fts during 4th quarter of game 7 WCF 2000, 20+fts during game 7 of 2010 finals and 20+ 2002 WCF.
It was a routine, whenever Lakers got in trouble, the other team would get in penalty after 2 minutes into the 4th.

[JohnFreeman]

He is a Lakers fans and he used to 20+ fts in the 4th quarter of games in which his team was in danger. 20+fts during 4th quarter of game 7 WCF 2000, 20+fts during game 7 of 2010 finals and 20+ 2002 WCF.
It was a routine, whenever Lakers got in trouble, the other team would get in penalty after 2 minutes into the 4th.
Pretty much.

[Real14]

See last years finals... :facepalm
END THREAD.

[kennethgriffin]

Asterisk for sure :lol , Kobe stans are in denial.

pretty sure i was in full acceptance on page 1


:biggums:


but common... its the nba. if you wanna rip on a few rigged games for 1 team. do it for all teams that won... every single playoffs has had a few obvious screw jobs in favor of the eventual champion

all except maybe the 2001 lakers who c*ck smacked everyone by 20+ppg

[ThePhantomCreep]

He is a Lakers fans and he used to 20+ fts in the 4th quarter of games in which his team was in danger. 20+fts during 4th quarter of game 7 WCF 2000, 20+fts during game 7 of 2010 finals and 20+ 2002 WCF.
It was a routine, whenever Lakers got in trouble, the other team would get in penalty after 2 minutes into the 4th.

More like, whenever the other team was in danger of losing, they intentionally forked to stop the clock. A boatload of the free throws in all three of those games came in that scenario.

Anyway, who cares, the championship parades were great. Good times, that's all that matters.

http://www.lakersuniverse.com/playoffs/02shaqnets4.jpg

[The-Legend-24]

Let's be real doe, the Heat have yet to win a legit ring, 06, '12, '13 are all tainted. Then add in the weak comp + injuries to other teams key players...

***

[FLDFSU]

See last years finals... :facepalm

You mean when the Heat shot the least amount of free throws in a 7 game series in NBA Playoff History?

[livinglegend]

More like, whenever the other team was in danger of losing, they intentionally forked to stop the clock. A boatload of the free throws in all three of those games came in that scenario.

Anyway, who cares, the championship parades were great. That's all that matters.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NSoHutBj8js/TyF1lTAfi0I/AAAAAAAAEhA/pb4iQkHVYro/s1600/lakers_2002.jpg

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
Lakers were losing and they got huge amount of free throws to make their ''comebacks''. Nice try rewriting history.

[livinglegend]

END THREAD.

Go search for Tupac, he may be alive.

[ThePhantomCreep]

pretty sure i was in full acceptance on page 1


:biggums:


but common... its the nba. if you wanna rip on a few rigged games for 1 team. do it for all teams that won... every single playoffs has had a few obvious screw jobs in favor of the eventual champion

all except maybe the 2001 lakers who c*ck smacked everyone by 20+ppg

One problem with this theory:

The San Antonio Spurs

Why would the league "rig" titles for that ratings poison?

[Mr. Jabbar]

OP is an authorized voice to talk about gifts

[livinglegend]

You mean when the Heat shot the least amount of free throws in a 7 game series in NBA Playoff History?

We all know that last year was a DOUBLE championship. No team in the history has overcome rigging other than Heat.

[ThePhantomCreep]

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
Lakers were losing and they got huge amount of free throws to make their ''comebacks''. Nice try rewriting history.

Kings/Lakers was tied going into the fourth (don't think the Lakers actually trailed in that quarter), Celtics/Lakers was basically a one possession game after Pau's "and one" (which came in the first minute of the 4th), and the Lakers shot almost no FTs during their 15 point comeback in 2000. The Blazers missed 13 straight shots.

You're bursting at the seams, that's how full of shit you are.

[Real14]

Go search for Tupac, he may be alive.
http://www.powermark.bg/uploads/partner_images/corny_logo_1.png

[GimmeThat]

I wonder what did the Kings do to piss the hell out of the ref

since I doubt Lakers winning favored vegas at all,
Kings were regularly sold out back in the days as well,

and lets not act like Kobe and Shaq were likeable characters.

so, what DID the Kings do to piss the hell out of the ref?



who knows.

[BrownEye007]

Least amount of free throws shot all time by a team in a 7 game series was mia last year so kill yourself. Rigging was clear against mia
:cheers:
There were bad calls made late in game 6 and 7 in favor of Miami. I don't know that it was rigged but they got lucky in both those games.

[fiddy]

That's why it alway laugh at these Kobe stans that hate on Lebron's 0.5 ring. The 2002 ring is as tainted as it gets. :lol
fixed

[russwest0]

I honestly want someone to make a video of the "bad" calls against the Thunder. Durant disappeared in key stretches like the skinny fakkit he is. Westbrook was the only one with a bit of heart.

Watch game 2 of the ECF. Also, there is a video of the bad calls the Heat got in the playoffs that year and it has over 1 million views.

[JohnFreeman]

There were bad calls made late in game 6 and 7 in favor of Miami. I don't know that it was rigged but they got lucky in both those games.
Examples please.

[JohnFreeman]

Watch game 2 of the ECF. Also, there is a video of the bad calls the Heat got in the playoffs that year and it has over 1 million views.
Yeah and thousands of dislikes because it was so awful.

[livinglegend]

Kings/Lakers was tied going into the fourth (don't think the Lakers actually trailed in that quarter), Celtics/Lakers was basically a one possession game after Pau's "and one" (which came in the first minute of the 4th), and the Lakers shot almost no FTs during their 15 point comeback in 2000. The Blazers missed 13 straight shots.

You're bursting at the seams, that's how full of shit you are.

The amount of intentional fts Lakers got vs Celtics in 2010 = 4 fts.
vs Kings, 6fts.

:facepalm

[fiddy]

Yeah and thousands of dislikes because it was so awful.
cheat bandwagoners

[FLDFSU]

There were bad calls made late in game 6 and 7 in favor of Miami. I don't know that it was rigged but they got lucky in both those games.


It was rigged alright. Against Miami. And the Pacers series before that. I am still trying to figure out where D-Wade fouled PG in game 1 that led to three free throws...

Lucky for us Heat fans, our players can overcome it, as Lebron hit the game winner.


And talking about bad calls? All the Spurs had to do was hit their free throws and the trophy was literally theirs.

Don't give me "some late bad calls in game 6 and game 7." Spurs choked despite the refs and Stern trying to hand them the championship.

[livinglegend]

Watch game 2 of the ECF. Also, there is a video of the bad calls the Heat got in the playoffs that year and it has over 1 million views.

watch game 4 of that series and see how the refs helped Celtics win.
Then, after that watch game 6 and cry.

[russwest0]

Yeah and thousands of dislikes because it was so awful.

Huh?

Watch game 2 of the ECF. The Heat won that series in 7 games. They won Game 2 of the ECF which was fixed and it's not even debatable. The Finals that year should have been Celtics/Spurs and if you don't believe so you didn't watch either the ECF or WCF.

[Fudge]

Lol @ LeBron stans trying to discredit rings. :roll:

LeBron, by far, has gotten his rings in the WEAKEST era of basketball, not only that, but getting through the weakest conference we've ever seen in god knows how long.

[FLDFSU]

Huh?

Watch game 2 of the ECF. The Heat won that series in 7 games. They won Game 2 of the ECF which was fixed and it's not even debatable. The Finals that year should have been Celtics/Spurs and if you don't believe so you didn't watch either the ECF or WCF.


The Heat were down 3-2 and headed back to Boston. No excuse for a team full of HOFers to lose to a Bosh-less Miami team, and let one man destroy your entire team in basically one half.


Boston choked hard.

[Yankstar]

Lol @ LeBron stans trying to discredit rings. :roll:

LeBron, by far, has gotten his rings in the WEAKEST era of basketball, not only that, but getting through the weakest conference we've ever seen in god knows how long.

Inb4 faces wizards in conference finals :facepalm
LeBron has practice games prior to finals

[livinglegend]

The Heat were down 3-2 and headed back to Boston. No excuse for a team full of HOFers to lose to a Bosh-less Miami team, and let one man destroy your entire team in basically one half.


Boston choked hard.

People complety forget game 4 where Lebron got fouled out in a close game and atleast 4 of those fouls where phantom fouls.

[Warfan]

Examples please.

The two examples i remember from game 6 were when ray stripped manu with a few seconds left in OT when the spurs were down 1, and then bosh's block on danny green 3 pointer in the last play of OT. I personally didn't think they were fouls (ill have to watch it again) but I think they were questionable

[JohnFreeman]

The two examples i remember from game 6 were when ray stripped manu with a few seconds left in OT when the spurs were down 1, and then bosh's block on danny green 3 pointer in the last play of OT. I personally didn't think they were fouls (ill have to watch it again) but I think they were questionable
Manu traveled before the strip, and they are never calling a foul on a "questionable" block.

[ThePhantomCreep]

The amount of intentional fts Lakers got vs Celtics in 2010 = 4 fts.
vs Kings, 6fts.

:facepalm

And how many of the rest were questionable?

You said the Lakers received a boatload of free throws to make their "comebacks" in those games. That is false--the Lakers never trailed by more than few points vs the Celtics and never trailed vs the Kings. The coke sic against the C's more or less occurred in the third quarter, when they cut a 13 point lead down to four.

The only game where the Lakers needed a 4th quarter comeback was against the Blazers, and free throws were not a factor.

[FLDFSU]

People complety forget game 4 where Lebron got fouled out in a close game and atleast 4 of those fouls where phantom fouls.

Yep. And even with all that, and without Bosh, and Wade playing injured, Boston STILL lost.

:roll: Rigged for Miami.


With the chance to return to finals, at home, Boston let one man beat them in game 6.

[JohnFreeman]

And how many of the rest were questionable?

You said the Lakers received a boatload of free throws to make their "comebacks" in those games. That is false--the Lakers never trailed by more than few points vs the Celtics and never trailed vs the Kings. The coke sic against the C's more or less occurred in the third quarter, when they cut a 13 point lead down to four.

The only game where the Lakers needed a 4th quarter comeback was against the Blazers, and free throws were not a factor.
27 free throws in the fourth quarter of game 6, shit was rigged.

[ThePhantomCreep]

The Heat were down 3-2 and headed back to Boston. No excuse for a team full of HOFers to lose to a Bosh-less Miami team, and let one man destroy your entire team in basically one half.


Boston choked hard.

That Boston team was a shell of the ones that reached the Finals. They had no business being up 3-2. It love when Bran fans play the underdog card on that one. Get real.

The 2010 Celtics would have toyed with that Miami team. That much is true.

[FLDFSU]

The two examples i remember from game 6 were when ray stripped manu with a few seconds left in OT when the spurs were down 1, and then bosh's block on danny green 3 pointer in the last play of OT. I personally didn't think they were fouls (ill have to watch it again) but I think they were questionable

You mean the play in which Manu took 10 steps, and the play where Bosh got all ball?

[JohnFreeman]

That Boston team was a shell of the ones that reached the Finals. They had no business being up 3-2. It love when Bran fans play the underdog card on that one. Get real.

The 2010 Celtics would have toyed with that Miami team. That much is true.
Then why were they up 3-2? :lol

[FLDFSU]

That Boston team was a shell of the ones that reached the Finals. They had no business being up 3-2. It love when Bran fans play the underdog card on that one. Get real.

The 2010 Celtics would have toyed with that Miami team. That much is true.

Who cares, Wade was on one leg and Bosh was out injured.

You don't let ONE man keep you from the Finals when you have a team full of HOFers and you are playing at home.

And those HOFers are STILL all contributing for playoff teams.

Just all around pathetic on Boston's part.

[livinglegend]

And how many of the rest were questionable?

You said the Lakers received a boatload of free throws to make their "comebacks" in those games. That is false--the Lakers never trailed by more than few points vs the Celtics and never trailed vs the Kings. The coke sic against the C's more or less occurred in the third quarter, when they cut a 13 point lead down to four.

The only game where the Lakers needed a 4th quarter comeback was against the Blazers, and free throws were not a factor.

Lots of those fts were questionable. The game was called differently for the Lakers. They could hack the other teams and on offense, they would get touch fouls.
You said that the fts came because the other team wanted to stop the clock which wasnt true. Only 4 and 6 of those came from intentional fouls, the rest were calls to help lakers win.

[ThePhantomCreep]

27 free throws in the fourth quarter of game 6, shit was rigged.:sleeping

The Kings (a jump-shooting finesse team) shot more FTs for the series overall, and had games where their FT advantage of +10, +15, and +20. They caught more than their fair share of breaks. They simply weren't good enough to win.

[JohnFreeman]

:sleeping

The Kings (a jump-shooting finesse team) shot more FTs for the series overall, and had games where their FT advantage of +10, +15, and +20. They caught more than their fair share of breaks. They simply weren't good enough to win.
There is a difference between earning the fouls and turning the tide of the game (in the fourth) for the opposition.

[livinglegend]

:sleeping

The Kings (a jump-shooting finesse team) shot more FTs for the series overall, and had games where their FT advantage of +10, +15, and +20. They caught more than their fair share of breaks. They simply weren't good enough to win.

What s your point? That game 6 wasnt rigged? :oldlol: :oldlol:
The ref with inside information even admitted that it was rigged.

[livinglegend]

Then why were they up 3-2? :lol
:oldlol: :oldlol:

[ThePhantomCreep]

Lots of those fts were questionable. The game was called differently for the Lakers. They could hack the other teams and on offense, they would get touch fouls.
You said that the fts came because the other team wanted to stop the clock which wasnt true. Only 4 and 6 of those came from intentional fouls, the rest were calls to help lakers win.

Point out the questionable fouls, please. There were a few, but the vast majority were legit.

As for the bold...

The. Kings. Shot. More. Free. Throws. Than. The. Lakers. For. The. Series.

Hello? Anyone home? There are lots of threads on this subject, all this stuff has been pointed out before, why doesn't it ever sink in?

[livinglegend]

Point out the questionable fouls, please. There were a few, but the vast majority were legit.

As for the bold...

The. Kings. Shot. More. Free. Throws. Than. The. Lakers. For. The. Series.

Hello? Anyone home? There are lots of threads on this subject, all this stuff has been pointed out before, why doesn't it ever sink in?

have fun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjRcTiwVEwo&hd=1

[JohnFreeman]

Point out the questionable fouls, please. There were a few, but the vast majority were legit.

As for the bold...

The. Kings. Shot. More. Free. Throws. Than. The. Lakers. For. The. Series.

Hello? Anyone home? There are lots of threads on this subject, all this stuff has been pointed out before, why doesn't it ever sink in?
Because they were getting fouled...Lakers had free throws that turn the tide of the game. Do you not see a difference between legit calls in the first quarter and 27 free throws in the fourth?

Foul on bibby. Shit was laughable
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xL_ZsqeYCi4/UFkEgnxYt5I/AAAAAAAAAeE/q_vx5IPPzJk/s1600/kobebibby.jpg

[ThePhantomCreep]

There is a difference between earning the fouls and turning the tide of the game (in the fourth) for the opposition.

Translation: It's only okay when my team gets all the calls.

[JohnFreeman]

Translation: It's only okay when my team gets all the calls.
You don't get it, the homerism has taken your brain cells.

[ThePhantomCreep]

have fun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjRcTiwVEwo&hd=1
Sorry, I don't watch gay "mixtapes" from butthurt Queens fans.

[BrownEye007]

Examples please.
http://youtu.be/plvib1jpLxQ
I don't remember what the call was and couldn't find a video for the one in game 7 I just remember thinking there was a terrible call in favor of the Heat.

Edit: I also realize that doesn't count for shit since I can't prove it but oh well. Anyway the Spurs undeniably got screwed over in game 6

[JohnFreeman]

http://youtu.be/plvib1jpLxQ
I don't remember what the call was and couldn't find a video for the one in game 7 I just remember thinking there was a terrible call in favor of the Heat.
Nice travel. How about Pops illegal substitution of Duncan?

[livinglegend]

http://youtu.be/plvib1jpLxQ
I don't remember what the call was and couldn't find a video for the one in game 7 I just remember thinking there was a terrible call in favor of the Heat.

Edit: I also realize that doesn't count for shit since I can't prove it but oh well. Anyway the Spurs undeniably got screwed over in game 6
GInobli traveled and Allen got the ball. It wasnt even a foul. Watch the video before posting it.

[fiddy]

Can anyone look up the numbers as to who had more free-throws for the series? Surely prime Kobe and Shaq would have more than the jumpshooting and flopping Kings..

King fans are grasping at straws. Let the butthurt flow through you.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2002_WCF.html
Lakers - 185 FTA
Kings - 204 FTA

[livinglegend]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2002_WCF.html
Lakers - 185 FTA
Kings - 204 FTA

Just shows how rigged that game 6 was.
Kings were the more aggressive team the whole series, got more fts constantly and then , suddently, when the lakers were in danger, everything changed.

[BrownEye007]

GInobli traveled and Allen got the ball. It wasnt even a foul. Watch the video before posting it.
I did watch before posting, not that I needed to since I had this exact play in mind before I searched for the vid. And Ginobli did travel but he got fouled first. In fact I'd go as far as to say that he only took an extra step because he was getting fouled.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Because they were getting fouled...Lakers had free throws that turn the tide of the game. Do you not see a difference between legit calls in the first quarter and 27 free throws in the fourth?

Foul on bibby. Shit was laughable
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xL_ZsqeYCi4/UFkEgnxYt5I/AAAAAAAAAeE/q_vx5IPPzJk/s1600/kobebibby.jpg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AUxsK_2imYI

Elbow a ***** elbow a *****

[Warfan]

You mean the play in which Manu took 10 steps, and the play where Bosh got all ball?


Manu traveled before the strip, and they are never calling a foul on a "questionable" block.

I didn't say they were fouls, I said they were questionable...

http://02804cf22a6e7b7042d7-acae2c2628dcdf3f1dfc3ee4f6e97624.r48.cf1.rackcdn.c om/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/chris-bosh-blocks-danny-green.png

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A_V1QTjDjvE


I'd say the block seems like more of a foul then the strip, but they're both tough calls.

[JohnFreeman]

I didn't say they were fouls, I said they were questionable...

http://02804cf22a6e7b7042d7-acae2c2628dcdf3f1dfc3ee4f6e97624.r48.cf1.rackcdn.c om/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/chris-bosh-blocks-danny-green.png

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A_V1QTjDjvE


I'd say the block seems like more of a foul then the strip, but they're both tough calls.
But they will never call that block, look at CP3s hand on Curry the other day.

[Warfan]

But they will never call that block, look at CP3s hand on Curry the other day.

Yeah but he basically jumped into him, the hand on the hip and elbow (not sure if he actually touched him there) were less noticeable and steph pushed off cp3 with his off hand like a second earlier. Also the refs dont always swallow their whistles at the end of games, fouls get called plenty of times.

I do remember though that splitter did a moving screen on ray who was guarding green on the play when he got blocked.