Don't actions speak louder than words?

[oarabbus]

Sterling is a racist scumbag but last time I checked, it's not illegal to be racist. He's also donated more money to minorities and helped minority kids go to summer camps, etc, more than most (any?) other NBA owners, or hell even sports owners in general. So do actions speak louder than words or not?

Reading the quotes below, who cares if it isn't "sincere"? Cash is cash. Legal tender, accepted everywhere. And millions of dollars is nothing to scoff at even if it was "insincere".


When the Los Angeles chapter of the NAACP held a press conference Monday, there was one question everybody had for them: Why did Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling deserve a lifetime achievement award?

"Mr. Sterling has given out a tremendous amount of scholarships. His donations to charities probably outnumber any of the other sports entities," Los Angeles chapter president Leon Jenkins said.

However, the chapter said it was withdrawing the honor and planned to return Sterling's money, reports CBS News' political correspondent Jan Crawford.

"I can't think that he was sincere with his donations after you listen to that script and that tape. I mean he doesn't even like black people," said Alice Huffman, president of the California NAACP.

The Los Angeles chapter raised eyebrows in 2009 when it gave Donald Sterling his first so-called "lifetime" achievement award. At that point Sterling already had a history of alleged racism, including two different lawsuits claiming discrimination. Yet Sterling also has a lot of money to donate, and that can go a long way.

Sterling has been giving for years, and not just to the NAACP. He's donated millions to other groups advocating for African Americans like the United Negro College Fund and the Black Business Association.

Some see a calculated strategy to bolster his image and deflect criticism over previous episodes of alleged racism. Nicole Neily, a crisis communications consultant, said donors can have ulterior motives.

"There is strategy that goes into: Who do we need to defuse? Are you buying friends? Are you not buying friends? And for big groups, I think it's maybe you're trying to get on their radar, get some access," Neily said.

Just last month Washington Redskins owner Dan Snyder, under pressure to change his team's name, established a foundation to improve the condition of Native Americans.

Image consultants also point to NFL quarterback Michael Vick who spent nearly two years in jail for running a dog fighting ring. After being released and looking to revive his career, he partnered with The Humane Society.

[Im so nba'd out]

he is a billionaire giving away some money doesn't mean sht.Whatever money he gave didnt effect him at all.

[20Four]

he is a billionaire giving away some money doesn't mean sht.Whatever money he gave didnt effect him at all.
^This

[COnDEMnED]

he is a billionaire giving away some money doesn't mean sht.Whatever money he gave didnt effect him at all.
Tax write off

[Jameerthefear]

he is a billionaire giving away some money doesn't mean sht.Whatever money he gave didnt effect him at all.
but he's likely made more effect on the black community than you EVER will. that counts for something.

[Dresta]

but he's likely made more effect on the black community than you EVER will. that counts for something.
wow, i actually agree with this fool.

Can't believe they're giving the money back :facepalm. Way to pick on the disenfranchised just to appease a moral crusade.

edit: and what is all these ulterior motives bs? All donors have ulterior motives, whether they just want boost their popularity, deflect criticism, or get that feeling of superiority most get when they are charitable. Everyone donates money because they want to, and in THEIR own interest, because it can't be any other way.

Why does it matter what their motivations were? A million bucks is a million bucks, and who donated it is irrelevant to who receives it and how it benefits them.

[Im so nba'd out]

wow, i actually agree with this fool.

Can't believe they're giving the money back :facepalm. Way to pick on the disenfranchised just to appease a moral crusade.

edit: and what is all these ulterior motives bs? All donors have ulterior motives, whether they just want boost their popularity, deflect criticism, or get that feeling of superiority most get when they are charitable. Everyone donates money because they want to, and in THEIR own interest, because it can't be any other way.

Why does it matter what their motivations were? A million bucks is a million bucks, and who donated it is irrelevant to who receives it and how it benefits them.
if i have 1,000 dollars and i give a dollar to gay rights im allowed to say whatever i want about gay people?

[Dro]

he is a billionaire giving away some money doesn't mean sht.Whatever money he gave didnt effect him at all.
:applause:

[Droid101]

if i have 1,000 dollars and i give a dollar to gay rights im allowed to say whatever i want about gay people?
Of course you can say whatever you want. It's a free country.

We're all free to hate you though.

[oarabbus]

but he's likely made more effect on the black community than you EVER will. that counts for something.

Exactly, this is the point I was trying to make. As much as he's a scumbag, he has made a positive impact on more than a few black kids' lives. It does count for something.


if i have 1,000 dollars and i give a dollar to gay rights im allowed to say whatever i want about gay people?


No :facepalm But if you had $1 billion and donated $5 million to gay organizations you probably could. Sorry we don't live in your goddamn fantasy land where your one dollar out of 1000 makes an eqivalent impact of millions and money doesn't matter :facepalm

End of story the guy donated millions. I'm not defending him PERSONALLY... just wondering how the "actions speak louder than words" logic can be reconciled with this guys donations to black organizations.

[Dro]

but he's likely made more effect on the black community than you EVER will. that counts for something.
So you're saying that all the black community needs is more money and everything will be ok...

If you really think this, Ill need you to look a little bit deeper...Just a tad...

[Jameerthefear]

So you're saying that all the black community needs is more money and everything will be ok...

If you really think this, Ill need you to look a little bit deeper...Just a tad...
No. I didn't say that. I'm black myself. You put words into my mouth.

[oarabbus]

So you're saying that all the black community needs is more money and everything will be ok...

If you really think this, Ill need you to look a little bit deeper...Just a tad...


Dude, you're twisting his words around. Sterling donated millions to the NAACP and the United Negro College Fund. If you think giving millions of dollars to the UNCF isn't helping the black community then I don't know what to tell you.

[Im so nba'd out]

Exactly, this is the point I was trying to make. As much as he's a scumbag, he has made a positive impact on more than a few black kids' lives. It does count for something.




No :facepalm But if you had $1 billion and donated $5 million to gay organizations you probably could. Sorry we don't live in your goddamn fantasy land where your one dollar out of 1000 makes an eqivalent impact of millions and money doesn't matter :facepalm

End of story the guy donated millions. I'm not defending him PERSONALLY... just wondering how the "actions speak louder than words" logic can be reconciled with this guys donations to black organizations.
:facepalm :facepalm

[oarabbus]

:facepalm :facepalm


Oops I misspelled "equivalent" :rolleyes:

Do you really not understand how the world works? Money rules all. The more you have the more power you have. I can't believe you need this explained :biggums:

[Im so nba'd out]

Oops I misspelled "equivalent" :rolleyes:

Do you really not understand how the world works? Money rules all. The more you have the more power you have. I can't believe you need this explained :biggums:
ok well if your right nothing will happen to him........http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/mjl.gif

[Dro]

Dude, you're twisting his words around. Sterling donated millions to the NAACP and the United Negro College Fund. If you think giving millions of dollars to the UNCF isn't helping the black community then I don't know what to tell you.
If you think either of those organizations are any less corrupt than many other similar organizations, then I don't know what to tell you. All 3 of those organizations are all about the money, don't ever think otherwise. Part of what I do is to do research on organizations just like this and they all have long histories of corruption within the organization. Sad of course but its reality. Sterling donating to them = huge writeoffs and gives the "impression" that he cares about minorities when his actions(not his money) have always proven otherwise...

[Straight_Ballin]

Dude, you're twisting his words around. Sterling donated millions to the NAACP and the United Negro College Fund. If you think giving millions of dollars to the UNCF isn't helping the black community then I don't know what to tell you.

You can't be racist and donate this much money. Racist is being hateful. I don't think Sterling is a hateful person. How can you be hateful and donate millions to organizations that support those you supposedly hate?

Answer: YOU CAN'T!!! Hate is going to trump a tax write
off. Simple as that.

[Im so nba'd out]

Oops I misspelled "equivalent" :rolleyes:

Do you really not understand how the world works? Money rules all. The more you have the more power you have. I can't believe you need this explained :biggums:
how that work out? http://i.imgur.com/F66HcRC.gif

[jstern]

You can't be this naive OP. Are you saying that Sterling is not a racist because as a billionaire he donated money to minority causes?

I haven't watch South Park in many years, but the image of Cartman putting on a nice sweater to show that he's a nice guy popped in my head.

Public image is very important, donating an insignificant amount of your money is BS.

If a rapist goes to court with a nice wholesome haircut, does that mean he's a nice guy? What if he donated to women's causes to hide his secret self, those that mean he's not a rapist?

What about all the tens of millions that Muammar Gaddafi has donated for great amazing causes.

[Derka]

You can't be racist and donate this much money. Racist is being hateful. I don't think Sterling is a hateful person. How can you be hateful and donate millions to organizations that support those you supposedly hate?

Answer: YOU CAN'T!!! Hate is going to trump a tax write
off. Simple as that.

Not in this sick f*cking country, its not. Sterling would finger Jesse Jackson's asshole and say it smells like cornbread if it saved him a few bucks in April or in business ventures down the line. The rich wanna get richer.

He's on the record saying essentially "Don't bring blacks to my basketball games" and "Don't notify the world that you hang with blacks by taking pictures with blacks and putting them on social media." That is the very picture of hatred.

[ShackEelOKneel]

Words are actions too :confusedshrug:

[KungFuJoe]

Wait...did the NAACP say they were giving the money back? BACK?

**** the NAACP.

[mehyaM24]

how about the guys past????
****in racist slumlord and racial lawsuits vs the great,elgin baylor???
how do those actions speak,op?

[oarabbus]

how about the guys past????
****in racist slumlord and racial lawsuits vs the great,elgin baylor???
how do those actions speak,op?


Those actions were extremely racist

[dontgetchoked]

a good deed with bad intentions is just acting. but i dont really get OPs point. Yes He did give the money to black people, and yes he is racist. those are facts, whats the point? No its not illegal to be racist, but no one is locking him up...


Not in this sick f*cking country, its not. Sterling would finger Jesse Jackson's asshole and say it smells like cornbread if it saved him a few bucks in April or in business ventures down the line. The rich wanna get richer.

He's on the record saying essentially "Don't bring blacks to my basketball games" and "Don't notify the world that you hang with blacks by taking pictures with blacks and putting them on social media." That is the very picture of hatred.

lmao, this. Rich people want to get richer. there are countless cases, look at kanye west. He came in the game hungry but now hes materialistic as ****. also, insert jewish stereotype.

[Dresta]

if i have 1,000 dollars and i give a dollar to gay rights im allowed to say whatever i want about gay people?
Stupid question :facepalm.

You can say whatever you like about anyone you like without donating money to anybody, that is your prerogative and right under the 1st Amendment.

[STATUTORY]

and he's still a racist.............so your point?
that gives people the right to confiscate his property? :facepalm

[smoovegittar]

What a man does in public, and what a man does in private are 2 different things.

[Dresta]

Not in this sick f*cking country, its not. Sterling would finger Jesse Jackson's asshole and say it smells like cornbread if it saved him a few bucks in April or in business ventures down the line. The rich wanna get richer.

He's on the record saying essentially "Don't bring blacks to my basketball games" and "Don't notify the world that you hang with blacks by taking pictures with blacks and putting them on social media." That is the very picture of hatred.
He's also on record in the same recording saying he loves black people, so why don't you believe that if you're so quick to condemn the rest of what he says? You also ignore that what he said was all about protecting his image with a certain group of people that remain unknown, not about hating on black people.

Your first paragraph is just stereotypical and resentful bullshit. The way people talk about other human beings just because they have more money than them :facepalm . It's ****ing pathetic man.

[Horde of Temujin]

Probably tax writeoffs

[tjgoHAM]

everyone's racist. Case in point, not many men like black women, however white women are very popular. People shouldnt be punished for personal preferences. You would think the guy raped someone with all this media attention :kobe:

[Collie]

No, it isn't illegal. But he didn't go to jail did he? But the NBA can and will do what they think they need to do.