Cristiano Ronaldo = GOAT

[ArbitraryWater]

#Fact

Edit:

Cristiano Ronaldo scores 17 Champions League Goals in the 2013/2014 Campaign to settle a new Record. (Breaking the previous 14 by 2011/2012 Messi.)

Messi's 14 = Boosted by 4 Penalties and a 5 Goal Match vs Leverkusen in the 1st KO Round/Round of 16.

When it mattered: Didn't make the Final. Stayed scoreless in the Semifinal. Only scored twice on 2 Penalties in the QF's.

R16: 1 Goal 1st Leg - 5 Goals 2nd Leg.

Meanwhile Ronaldo: 17 Goals in 11 Games (Sat Groupstage Game and QF 2nd Leg OUT!) Only 2 Penalties, only 1 scoreless Game. 1.6 Goals per Game ratio. Champions League Title.

Greatest Champions League Campaign Ever.

[RagaZ]

Let's see him do it against the best defence in the world in the final.

[Shade8780]

Stop with all these overreaction threads. Last week it was ****ing Gareth Bale, now it's Ronaldo. Wonder who it'll be next week.

[ArbitraryWater]

Stop with all these overreaction threads. Last week it was ****ing Gareth Bale, now it's Ronaldo. Wonder who it'll be next week.

I've been on the "Ronaldo = GOAT" Wagon since 2012, kid :oldlol:

[mr.big35]

if pele messi maradona ronaldo didnt exist

[Shade8780]

I've been on the "Ronaldo = GOAT" Wagon since 2012, kid :oldlol:
Okay, but my point is he isnt the GOAT.

[Trollsmasher]

:cheers:

[StephHamann]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llczzrs7Y01qixy8k.gif

[ArbitraryWater]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llczzrs7Y01qixy8k.gif

http://clmlkbks.s3.amazonaws.com/lg_4eb7d4e2-e9f8-4d62-8205-7f690a7a1917.jpg

[alenleomessi]

you wanna talk about facts?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYWLb_UIYAAYB8f.jpg

[cos88]

sorry man, not even the best of his generation. the fact that he is having a way better season than messi doesn't change the following facts:


ronaldo:

4 domestic titles

3 domestic cups

1 UCL

2 ballon dor's



messi:

6 domestic titles

2 domestic cups

3 UCL

3 ballon dor's

[Rondo]

Ronaldo's a great player but anyone who's actually played football appreciates that Messi is the better player of the two.

Bit of an overreaction to Real mauling Bayern. Perfect counter attacking team to exploit Guardiola's tiki-tika recklessness defensively. We saw Bayern do it to Barcelona last year for example.

[Rondo]

sorry man, not even the best of his generation. the fact that he is having a way better season than messi doesn't change the following facts:


ronaldo:

4 domestic titles

3 domestic cups

1 UCL

2 ballon dor's



messi:

6 domestic titles

2 domestic cups

3 UCL

3 ballon dor's

Messi actually has 4 Ballon d'Or's. The 3 are just since FIFA officially put their name on it. He won it the year before that too. One of Ronaldo's Ballon d'Or's was won under the same circumstances.

[Andrew Wiggins]

sorry man, not even the best of his generation. the fact that he is having a way better season than messi doesn't change the following facts:


ronaldo:

4 domestic titles

3 domestic cups

1 UCL

2 ballon dor's



messi:

6 domestic titles

2 domestic cups

3 UCL

3 ballon dor's

don't let the facts get in the way of OP's trolling :lol

[9erempiree]

Messi is like a system player. He plays well under a system. It also doesn't help that he sucks badly now. Goal keepers run more than him. Can't be GOAT when you are not even top 5 best player in the world right now.

CR is the player that you put on any team and they become instant contenders. CR plays in many different systems and excel at it.

Again, I am not saying CR is the greatest of all time but he is close because the guys I have watched are Maradona and Zidane. Those guys will always be the greatest but I have also watched CR and Messi they are pretty much even.

I would only have CR in the conversation as the greatest of all time because if Messi is in it, then so should CR because CR is the better player in my opinion. Messi is the product of the system and it doesn't hurt that his running mates are considered the best at their positions too, Iniesta, Xavi and Alves.

[9erempiree]

sorry man, not even the best of his generation. the fact that he is having a way better season than messi doesn't change the following facts:


ronaldo:

4 domestic titles

3 domestic cups

1 UCL

2 ballon dor's



messi:

6 domestic titles

2 domestic cups

3 UCL

3 ballon dor's

There is not a big difference there. After this season, it would be a possible one more CL and one more Ballon. If Messi is getting all the praises with his Ballon. So should CR when he gets his 3rd and very right so.

He is setting records this year. CL goals in a season and they both share 67 total goals in CL.

Messi's goals are overrated. I believe his last 8 goals on 2 have been in play and the other 6 are PK's.:facepalm Messi gets hyped from this but CR gets punished for PK's?

[Trollsmasher]

Messi is like a system player. He plays well under a system. It also doesn't help that he sucks badly now. Goal keepers run more than him. Can't be GOAT when you are not even top 5 best player in the world right now.

CR is the player that you put on any team and they become instant contenders. CR plays in many different systems and excel at it.

Again, I am not saying CR is the greatest of all time but he is close because the guys I have watched are Maradona and Zidane. Those guys will always be the greatest but I have also watched CR and Messi they are pretty much even.

I would only have CR in the conversation as the greatest of all time because if Messi is in it, then so should CR because CR is the better player in my opinion. Messi is the product of the system and it doesn't hurt that his running mates are considered the best at their positions too, Iniesta, Xavi and Alves.
This.

Ronaldo can win any game by himself. You can put him on Stoke and let them play Real Madrid and Stoke would have a chance to win thanks to him.

Messi has never in his life won a game in which Barcelona was the worse team on the field. If his teammates don't perform at their standart exceptional level, he quits. If they do perform, he takes all the glory for himself by ballhogging.

[alenleomessi]

messi is also 2 and a half years younger

[cos88]

There is not a big difference there.


:facepalm :facepalm 2more of each for the 3 most important categories. it's like saying between kobe and jordan is not a big difference. also messi is younger

[Trollsmasher]

messi is also 2 and a half years younger
and he is already in steep decline

[alenleomessi]

declining yet led all leagues in scoring for 2014 and showed who is the boss in the la liga el clasico

[ArbitraryWater]

Why would team accomplishments matter in an 11 VS 11 GAME? :lol


Jeesus.

BTW, even though Messi is playing on the most stacked team ever.

League Titles:
Messi - 4 (2009, 2010, 2011, 2013)
Ronaldo - 4 (2007, 2008, 2009, 2012)

Cups:
Messi - 2 (2010, 2012)
Ronaldo - 2 (2011, 2014)

Champions League Titles:
Messi - 2 (2009, 2011)
Ronaldo - 2 (2008, 2014)

Yes, 2014 :pimp:

NO, I didnt count Messi's titles as 20 year old role playing bench player... :facepalm

And how can we even count UEFAlona's trophies? :lol

2009: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=331955

Lets take it seriously though :lol

I'll pop more Videos soon

And Ronaldo has been 3x the big game player.

[alenleomessi]

barca wouldnt have gotten past chelsea in 2006 if it wasnt for messi's performance in the 1st leg and the win at stamford

but you are too young to remember

[ArbitraryWater]

barca wouldnt have gotten past chelsea in 2006 if it wasnt for messi's performance in the 1st leg and the win at stamford

but you are too young to remember

Why the fcuk would we give him full credit for a title in which he didnt play the last FIVE GAMES OF THE TOURNAMENT? Stop fooling yourself...

He missed the entire Final, Semifinal, and Quarterfinal... but yeah, such a key to the win :bowdown:

In fact, he played one full game of those 7 KO matches leading to the title.

The 1st leg against Chelsea, in which he stayed scoreless in. 2nd leg he was out after 25 minutes to Injury.

But yeah, lets just add that, "Messu & 3 CL Titles" sounds good, but wait, the guy offered 0 contributions to the title. Get real.

[ArbitraryWater]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CXvHOv4Gzk

Comments too :bowdown:

[EMERE]

:oldlol:

[RagaZ]

It will be interesting to see Ronaldo agaisnt this Chelsea defence in the final.

Messi couldnt do anything against them. It's very interesting to see if it really is easier to shutdown Messi than Ronaldo. We havent seen Ronaldo against a really good defence since. Well, since he left England.

[alenleomessi]

Why the fcuk would we give him full credit for a title in which he didnt play the last FIVE GAMES OF THE TOURNAMENT? Stop fooling yourself...

He missed the entire Final, Semifinal, and Quarterfinal... but yeah, such a key to the win :bowdown:

In fact, he played one full game of those 7 KO matches leading to the title.

The 1st leg against Chelsea, in which he stayed scoreless in. 2nd leg he was out after 25 minutes to Injury.

But yeah, lets just add that, "Messu & 3 CL Titles" sounds good, but wait, the guy offered 0 contributions to the title. Get real.
thats because chelsea injured him couple of times during the matchup.. del horno got a red card and i've never seen robben play defense as he did in that matchup... that was the match that made people realize messi will be the next all-time great
so yeah barca wouldnt have won the 2006 title if it wasnt for messi

and the only CR's CL title so far is the one in 2008 where he choked big time.. missed a penalty in the 1/2 final and missed a penalty in the final.. later cried because of how lucky he was.. then of course messi dominated him the next year and he decided to jump ship to a team that has no problem of throwing ridiculous amount of money

since he joined real? lots of goals.. sure.. some nice one too.. how many CLs? zero.. how many la ligas? only one. how many balon d'ors? only one

[alenleomessi]

3 scenarios for the final?
CR chokes as always and chelsea/atletico win
CR chokes but is lucky like in 2008 and his team wins probably because of a great performance of dimaria/bale ( as in the Cup final this year and in the many games this year they won without CR )
CR finally plays an epic big match and they win


3rd scenario is the least likely

[RagaZ]

He didnt choke in that 08' final. It's never easy to take penalties in the rain and Cech is very good at penalties as we saw in 2012.

But he scored a goal. How many times has Messi done that against Chelsea?

[alenleomessi]

He didnt choke in that 08' final. It's never easy to take penalties in the rain and Cech is very good at penalties as we saw in 2012.

But he scored a goal. How many times has Messi done that against Chelsea?
i dont give a f if it rained.. he missed a penalty.. thats choke.. same way beckham choked same way baggio choked same way messi against chelsea choked

[RagaZ]

It was by far a bigger choke what happened in the Penalty shootout against Spain in 12'.

You cant really judge him on his 2 CL finals.

He played against a defensive juggernaut in Chelsea in 2008 that even Messi hasnt scored or performed well against.

He played against a GOAT Barcelona team. He was the only player from Man U who tried in that final.

[Trollsmasher]

How was that Spain shootout a choke?:biggums:

[RagaZ]

How was that Spain shootout a choke?:biggums:
Why didnt he take a penalty?

[Trollsmasher]

Why didnt he take a penalty?
He was assigned to take take 5th one:confusedshrug:

[deja vu]

Sorry until Messi destroys Stoke in a cold winter afternoon at the Britannia he's not better than Ronaldo.

[b1imtf]

Sorry until Messi destroys Stoke in a cold winter afternoon at the Britannia he's not better than Ronaldo.
The old Stoke argument. :oldlol:
Who's the bish on your avy?

[CasterL]

Messi is like a system player. He plays well under a system. It also doesn't help that he sucks badly now. Goal keepers run more than him. Can't be GOAT when you are not even top 5 best player in the world right now.

CR is the player that you put on any team and they become instant contenders. CR plays in many different systems and excel at it.

Again, I am not saying CR is the greatest of all time but he is close because the guys I have watched are Maradona and Zidane. Those guys will always be the greatest but I have also watched CR and Messi they are pretty much even.

I would only have CR in the conversation as the greatest of all time because if Messi is in it, then so should CR because CR is the better player in my opinion. Messi is the product of the system and it doesn't hurt that his running mates are considered the best at their positions too, Iniesta, Xavi and Alves.

Agree with this. You could stick ronaldo on a lot more teams than messi and he woukd be more effective to me. Messi is an all time great, but I would love to see how he would fare in the epl, I think he needs to show he can perform like he has in the past in a less fortuitous and altogether different team/ league to be considered GOAT

[deja vu]

The old Stoke argument. :oldlol:
Who's the bish on your avy?
You're like the 10th guy who asked me that. :lol She's Helga Lovekaty

[mr.big35]

You're like the 10th guy who asked me that. :lol She's Helga Lovekaty

seen her full image not enough meat

[cos88]

Sorry until Messi destroys Stoke in a cold winter afternoon at the Britannia he's not better than Ronaldo.


hey man who's that smokin' girl in your avy? name please.

[b1imtf]

You're like the 10th guy who asked me that. :lol She's Helga Lovekaty
Thanks :roll:

[ArbitraryWater]

Why didnt he take a penalty?

He actually called it himself in the huddle to take the 5th one...

[b1imtf]

He actually called it himself in the huddle to take the 5th one...
IMO he should've been the first.

[ArbitraryWater]

IMO he should've been the first.

I dont know why I think of this right now, but didnt you have a hilarious avatar before? :lol You should switch back

[b1imtf]

I dont know why I think of this right now, but didnt you have a hilarious avatar before? :lol You should switch back
Sir Ainsley will come back, just wait. :pimp: :pimp:

[RagaZ]

Fraud.

Never scored against a big nation in a major tournament.

Just found this statistic(in major tournaments)

England: 2 Games, 0 Goals.
Germany: 4 Games, 0 Goals.
Spain: 2 Games, 0 Goals.
Brazil: 1 Game, 0 Goals.
France: 1 Game, 0 Goals