If it was Jordan who "made" Pippen the player he became, why didn't he "make" these

[The Iron Fist]

guys into all Hall of Famers and world champions?

Ennis Whatley
Brad Sellers
Gene Banks
Tony White

[kshutts1]

Don't forget Stacey King in your trolling

[Crystallas]

This is well documented. Pippen was persistent, approached Jordan repeatedly until Jordan and Pippen developed a friendship. The other players didn't do that, nor was it a responsibility for them or Jordan to do so. Merely a choice of consenting adults to determine how they work on their game. Throughout all of sports, mentorship from star players is actually not as common as people think. And mentorship is different than being a captain or floor leader.

[sportjames23]

This is well documented. Pippen was persistent, approached Jordan repeatedly until Jordan and Pippen developed a friendship. The other players didn't do that, nor was it a responsibility for them or Jordan to do so. Merely a choice of consenting adults to determine how they work on their game. Throughout all of sports, mentorship from star players is actually not as common as people think. And mentorship is different than being a captain or floor leader.

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[sick_brah07]

This is well documented. Pippen was persistent, approached Jordan repeatedly until Jordan and Pippen developed a friendship. The other players didn't do that, nor was it a responsibility for them or Jordan to do so. Merely a choice of consenting adults to determine how they work on their game. Throughout all of sports, mentorship from star players is actually not as common as people think. And mentorship is different than being a captain or floor leader.


shut it down

end thread

[kennethgriffin]

maybe pippen made jordan


pippen was the leader in assists for all 6 titles

he was the point guard

he ran the offense

he made the other guys better. not jordan...

it showed when pippen went to portand. and his time in 1994 without mj


pippen has 10 times more success with mj than mj has without pip

[jzek]

This is well documented. Pippen was persistent, approached Jordan repeatedly until Jordan and Pippen developed a friendship. The other players didn't do that, nor was it a responsibility for them or Jordan to do so. Merely a choice of consenting adults to determine how they work on their game. Throughout all of sports, mentorship from star players is actually not as common as people think. And mentorship is different than being a captain or floor leader.

Hmm, so this is the type of answers I should give in order to get green reps...

[kamil]

This is well documented. Pippen was persistent, approached Jordan repeatedly until Jordan and Pippen developed a friendship. The other players didn't do that, nor was it a responsibility for them or Jordan to do so. Merely a choice of consenting adults to determine how they work on their game. Throughout all of sports, mentorship from star players is actually not as common as people think. And mentorship is different than being a captain or floor leader.

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[sick_brah07]

maybe pippen made jordan


pippen was the leader in assists for all 6 titles

he was the point guard

he ran the offense

he made the other guys better. not jordan...

it showed when pippen went to portand. and his time in 1994 without mj


pippen has 10 times more success with mj than mj has without pip

reality is when they were on the floor together, they were a perfect compliment and amazing to watch

[SamuraiSWISH]

No one said he "MADE" Pippen from scratch. MJ's influence, and imprinted DNA onto a young Pippen through countless daily brutal competitive practices enhanced Pip's already innate natual abilities, and capabilities. Enough with the straw man arguments. This isn't a Shaq / Kobe, LeBron / Wade, Kobe / Gasol situation of established individual players joining forces. Pippen's game mirrors Jordan, but with significantly less offensive skill.

[JellyBean]

This is well documented. Pippen was persistent, approached Jordan repeatedly until Jordan and Pippen developed a friendship. The other players didn't do that, nor was it a responsibility for them or Jordan to do so. Merely a choice of consenting adults to determine how they work on their game. Throughout all of sports, mentorship from star players is actually not as common as people think. And mentorship is different than being a captain or floor leader.

This right here. Great point.

[Poetry]

it showed when pippen went to portand. and his time in 1994 without mj

The Blazers were already a very talented team.

The year before Pippen joined, they went to the Western Conference finals. They had a record of 35-15. They were title contenders.

The next year, Pippen and Steve Smith joined the team, and they once again went to the Western Conference finals.

[bizil]

For starters, MJ and Pippen were similar in many ways. U could argue that MJ is the first freak athlete 6'6 and up that could play AND defend PG, SG, and SF. It was almost as if MJ brought Dr. J level size, athletic ability,and scoring dominance to the SG position. Pippen was the next guy in line with all that going for himself EXCEPT for the scoring dominance part. MJ was a great scorer who also happened to be a great passer. Pippen was a great passer who also happened to be a very good scorer. Pippen could take the heat off of MJ in terms of passing and defense. MJ could take the heat of Pip in terms of being the alpha dog scorer. Both were epic all around players whose package of athletic ability and versatility on both sides of the rock perimeter wise are ONLY matched by a Bron or Kobe. Neither MADE the other, both ENHANCED each other!

[bukowski81]

The Blazers were already a very talented team.

The year before Pippen joined, they went to the Western Conference finals. They had a record of 35-15. They were title contenders.

The next year, Pippen and Steve Smith joined the team, and they once again went to the Western Conference finals.

Leave him alone, you are ruining his trolling

[kennethgriffin]

Leave him alone, you are ruining his trolling

he didnt ruin anything.. he just validated pippen in 94

he basically said if a team is good one year without someone. and good the next year with someone. then that player had little impact


him discounting pippen in portland basically totally ruins anything jordan did on the bulls. since the 94 team was great without jordan


thats the great thing about pippens 2 situations. you cant really discount both. you can only use an agenda to fight with one of them


for instance.. if he said pippens blazer situation was the valid one and said "the leadership and experience is the difference maker." then he'd have saved jordan. but gave pippen a leg up for his portland days


he in a way f*cked himself in the a** by picking the wrong situation to argue with

[poido123]

This is well documented. Pippen was persistent, approached Jordan repeatedly until Jordan and Pippen developed a friendship. The other players didn't do that, nor was it a responsibility for them or Jordan to do so. Merely a choice of consenting adults to determine how they work on their game. Throughout all of sports, mentorship from star players is actually not as common as people think. And mentorship is different than being a captain or floor leader.


One of the best Bulls fans going round. Although he doesn't post that much on the main forums(I don't blame him).

It's a shame some of these really good Bulls posters like Undisputed and Crystallas don't post a hell of a lot here. Could really help clean up the main boards from the trolls :confusedshrug:

[The Iron Fist]

This is well documented. Pippen was persistent, approached Jordan repeatedly until Jordan and Pippen developed a friendship. The other players didn't do that, nor was it a responsibility for them or Jordan to do so. Merely a choice of consenting adults to determine how they work on their game. Throughout all of sports, mentorship from star players is actually not as common as people think. And mentorship is different than being a captain or floor leader.
Oh, so all it took was for Scottie to be Michaels BFF? So you're saying if any of those other guys would have been his BFF, they would have been hall of famers too?

[Calabis]

Oh, so all it took was for Scottie to be Michaels BFF? So you're saying if any of those other guys would have been his BFF, they would have been hall of famers too?

:facepalm

3,529 posts and this is the shit you come up with

[Lebron23]

Jordan ain't a magician. He won't turn a garbage player into a legit NBA superstar.

Pippen was already a very talented player in college. He just improved as a player through the years. And he even carried the Bulls without MJ in 1994.

[livinglegend]

Pippen made Jordan.
Prove? He had a losing record without Pippen.

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[livinglegend]

One of the best Bulls fans going round. Although he doesn't post that much on the main forums(I don't blame him).

It's a shame some of these really good Bulls posters like Undisputed and Crystallas don't post a hell of a lot here. Could really help clean up the main boards from the trolls :confusedshrug:

You could really help cleaning it up by leaving the board forever.

[97 bulls]

No one said he "MADE" Pippen from scratch. MJ's influence, and imprinted DNA onto a young Pippen through countless daily brutal competitive practices enhanced Pip's already innate natual abilities, and capabilities. Enough with the straw man arguments. This isn't a Shaq / Kobe, LeBron / Wade, Kobe / Gasol situation of established individual players joining forces. Pippen's game mirrors Jordan, but with significantly less offensive skill.
In what way did Pips game mimic Jordans?

Whats different about Shaqs/Kobe and Jordan/Pippen. Kobe wasnt established when he was drafted. Hell he was a lower draft pick than Pippen.

[Dragonyeuw]

Pippen had the talent within him. Having to defend MJ in practice is certainly going to develop one's defensive capabilities, but the natural ability has to be there to begin with.