Posters That Said Durant Was Best Player In NBA

[SilkkTheShocker]

Feel free to use this thread to tell us how wrong you were :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

[Destroyer9]

The playoffs have really shown how weak this era is. All the "stars" are either manufactured or choke****s when it counts. Being the best player in the NBA right now means as much as it did in the 60s. Empty stats look great and all but it won't win you a ring.

[Marchesk]

He was better than Lebron during the regular season. Not like Lebron has ever had a sub par playoff series, right?

[Connor B]

I will admit I was wrong about Durant, but I think what's even more wrong is that Scott Brooks is still the coach of the Thunder.

[SilkkTheShocker]

He was better than Lebron during the regular season. Not like Lebron has ever had a sub par playoff series, right?
So do you still feel KD is better? Let me know now so I can remember to
Never take u serious again. Thanks

[navy]

I think it's pretty obvious that Lebron is better than Durant.

[fiddy]

KD>Bran
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[imdaman99]

He has game 6 to redeem himself. If he doesn't than he doesn't belong in the same breath as bran.

[Mr. Jabbar]

he is having a bad series, lebron has had a ton too. too bad kd doesnt have the luxury of playing in the east or brans cast. mem has put good d on him

#perspective
#respectthemvp

[SilkkTheShocker]

KD>Bran
/thread
I'm sure you will be here to tell us why when KD loses to the 7 seed, right?

[fiddy]

I'm sure you will be here to tell us why when KD loses to the 7 seed, right?
This is the west, not the cats.

[JohnFreeman]

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[russwest0]

Not everyone gets to play in the East

[livinglegend]

he is having a bad series, lebron has had a ton too. too bad kd doesnt have the luxury of playing in the east or his cast. mem has put good d on him

give specific examples? Apart from that 2011 series...

[Kingwillball]

He was better than Lebron during the regular season. Not like Lebron has ever had a sub par playoff series, right?

Very few the 2011 Finals is the the only one that comes to mind. Lebron has been spectacular most of his career in Playoffs.

[SilkkTheShocker]

he is having a bad series, lebron has had a ton too. too bad kd doesnt have the luxury of playing in the east or his cast. mem has put good d on him
Lebron played easier teams in the first round of east. But the supporting cast argument doesn't fly. Wade was hurt all last postseason. Bosh missed half of the 2012 postseason.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Not everyone gets to play in the East
So what will be the excuse when Miami beats the west's best team for the third time?

[Kingwillball]

he is having a bad series, lebron has had a ton too. too bad kd doesnt have the luxury of playing in the east or brans cast. mem has put good d on him

#perspective
#respectthemvp

:no: maybe one or two and is 9-0 in first round of Playoffs and is continually deep into the Playoffs. KD has had as many or more bad series in many less playoff appearances.

[livinglegend]

Not everyone gets to play in the East

Nice try, but 2 straight playoffs choke is too much.
He has the most stacked team in the league and cant beat the :roll: :roll: 7th seed. :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Lebron23]

he is having a bad series, lebron has had a ton too. too bad kd doesnt have the luxury of playing in the east or brans cast. mem has put good d on him

#perspective
#respectthemvp


Memphis - 7th best defensive team
Charlotte - 5th best defensive team

[Warfan]

dude is bitchmade, down the stretch he becomes a roleplayer and resorts to rip-throughs. he better have a great game 6...

[J Shuttlesworth]

Not everyone gets to play in the East
Memphis Defensive efficiency rating: 102.1 - 7th in the league
Charlotte - 101.2 - 5th in the league

KD this series (46 minutes a game): 28 PPG, 39% FG, 10 Reb, 4 Ast, infinite chokes

LeBron this playoffs (39 minutes a game): 30 PPG, 55.7% FG, 8 Reb, 6 Ast per game, 1 MJ staredown, 0 chokes

If LeBron can score 30 ppg in 39 mins against a top 5 defense, why can't KD shoot over 39% against a top 7 defense? MKG is no Tony Allen, but he's definitely one of the better perimeter defenders.

[fiddy]

Memphis - 7th best defensive team
Charlotte - 5th best defensive team
Irrelevant stats and also Al Jeffereson was injured. :facepalm

[SilkkTheShocker]

Lebron took all the blame for not winning titles with Cleveland scrubs. KD on the other hand is probably gonna get another pass :oldlol:

[Kingwillball]

Memphis Defensive efficiency rating: 102.1 - 7th in the league
Charlotte - 101.2 - 5th in the league

KD this series (46 minutes a game): 28 PPG, 39% FG, 10 Reb, 4 Ast, infinite chokes

LeBron this playoffs (39 minutes a game): 30 PPG, 55.7% FG, 8 Reb, 6 Ast per game, 1 MJ staredown, 0 chokes

If LeBron can score 30 ppg in 39 mins against a top 5 defense, why can't KD shoot over 39% against a top 7 defense? MKG is no Tony Allen, but he's definitely one of the better perimeter defenders.


Kid is what 20 years old.. 5 years from now he will add strength and experience and will probably be the top wing defender in the league.

[Mr. Jabbar]

we cant judge durant vs bran this 1st round really, imagine what bran could be going through in a MIA vs MEM 1st round matchup, hideous...

[JohnFreeman]

we cant judge durant vs bran this 1st round really, imagine what bran could be going through in a MIA vs MEM 1st round matchup, hideous...
Probably sweep averaging 30-5-5

[livinglegend]

I think it s time for Lakers fans to move on and pick another player. Durant is done, George is done. Who is next for them? They are running out of players.

[SilkkTheShocker]

we cant judge durant vs bran this 1st round really, imagine what bran could be going through in a MIA vs MEM 1st round matchup, hideous...
No way does Heat the Grizzlies get away with all the choking they have been doing. Their frontcourt would dominate but they wild
Never in a million years get away with Mike Conley smoking crack in the 4th quarters

[Heavincent]

Very few the 2011 Finals is the the only one that comes to mind. Lebron has been spectacular most of his career in Playoffs.

07 Finals? 08 against Boston?

[Mr. Jabbar]

No way does Heat the Grizzlies get away with all the choking they have been doing. Their frontcourt would dominate but they wild
Never in a million years get away with Mike Conley smoking crack in the 4th quarters

i guess we will never know, thats why we need 16 best teams playoffs urgently :applause: :applause:

[SilkkTheShocker]

Very few the 2011 Finals is the the only one that comes to mind. Lebron has been spectacular most of his career in Playoffs.
08 east semis and 11 finals were the bad series.

[J Shuttlesworth]

we cant judge durant vs bran this 1st round really, imagine what bran could be going through in a MIA vs MEM 1st round matchup, hideous...
i'll tell you this.... Last time the Heat played Grizz, LeBron dropped 37 and they had to take Allen off him since LeBron was scoring on him too easily. They had James Johnson cover him instead because of his size

[FLDFSU]

I think it s time for Lakers fans to move on and pick another player. Durant is done, George is done. Who is next for them? They are running out of players.

Don't forget Rose and Melo...

[tpols]

Memphis Defensive efficiency rating: 102.1 - 7th in the league
Charlotte - 101.2 - 5th in the league

KD this series (46 minutes a game): 28 PPG, 39% FG, 10 Reb, 4 Ast, infinite chokes

LeBron this playoffs (39 minutes a game): 30 PPG, 55.7% FG, 8 Reb, 6 Ast per game, 1 MJ staredown, 0 chokes

If LeBron can score 30 ppg in 39 mins against a top 5 defense, why can't KD shoot over 39% against a top 7 defense? MKG is no Tony Allen, but he's definitely one of the better perimeter defenders.

Are you really not going to account for Al Jefferson getting hurt and Marc being out for 23 games worth of that defensive rating data?

Memphis with Healthy Gasol = at least top 3 defense in the league and easily better than bobcats with their best frontcourt player hobbled.

[LoneyROY7]

I'll admit it, I said it. :lol

Bran > Durclank.

[KingBeasley08]

Miami has beaten the best of the West in the Finals twice now. Durant is having trouble beating one of the lower seeded West teams right now


No excuses

[poido123]

he is having a bad series, lebron has had a ton too. too bad kd doesnt have the luxury of playing in the east or brans cast. mem has put good d on him

#perspective
#respectthemvp


The supposed best perimeter defender in the game, so we should cut KD a little slack here.

[Boston C's]

The playoffs have really shown how weak this era is. All the "stars" are either manufactured or choke****s when it counts. Being the best player in the NBA right now means as much as it did in the 60s. Empty stats look great and all but it won't win you a ring.


this x1000 where are all the big time games by the supposed superstars of the league

minus aldridge and that man isn't considered a superstar...not even sure he was a "star" before this season

[ABfor3]

Miami has beaten the best of the West in the Finals twice now. Durant is having trouble beating one of the lower seeded West teams right now


No excuses
Well when you have such an easy path to the Finals, it's not necessarily tough to beat a worn out West team.. Every team in the West playoffs are capable of beating one another, the East, not so much

[oarabbus]

Miami has beaten the best of the West in the Finals twice now. Durant is having trouble beating one of the lower seeded West teams right now


No excuses


You can't be this stupid

[VIntageNOvel]

Are you really not going to account for Al Jefferson getting hurt and Marc being out for 23 games worth of that defensive rating data?

Memphis with Healthy Gasol = at least top 3 defense in the league and easily better than bobcats with their best frontcourt player hobbled.


tpols dropping that knowledge :applause:

but but bobcats is top 5 defense :roll: :roll:

[KingBeasley08]

Well when you have such an easy path to the Finals, it's not necessarily tough to beat a worn out West team.. Every team in the West playoffs are capable of beating one another, the East, not so much
Well this is the first round for Durant. They haven't had to hustle throughout the playoffs because it just started.

And either way, the Spurs raced through the West without even looking back. Swept a weak Lakers team, took down Warriors in 6 and swept the Grizzlies.

So Miami actually were more worn out than the Spurs were. Either way, Durant isn't worn out because this is the first round. All teams should be fresh right now

[KingBeasley08]

You can't be this stupid
Go for it :confusedshrug:

[Real14]

He was better than Lebron during the regular season. Not like Lebron has ever had a sub par playoff series, right?
:lol

[Lebron23]

Well this is the first round for Durant. They haven't had to hustle throughout the playoffs because it just started.

And either way, the Spurs raced through the West without even looking back. Swept a weak Lakers team, took down Warriors in 6 and swept the Grizzlies.

So Miami actually were more worn out than the Spurs were. Either way, Durant isn't worn out because this is the first round. All teams should be fresh right now

this

put lebron in the west and he dominates some of these weak sauce and less physical defensive team.

[knicksman]

nah more like unlucky to play w/ poor mans lebron. You know the type of player that they call cancer

[Droid101]

He was the regular season MVP. Why is this difficult to understand?

[BlackVVaves]

:facepalm @ posters insinuating that competing against superior teams en route to the Finals doesn't wear a player or team down physically and mentally.

Do Bron stans even believe the verbal vomit they spew?

[NumberSix]

:facepalm @ posters insinuating that competing against superior teams en route to the Finals doesn't wear a player or team down physically and mentally.

Do Bron stans even believe the verbal vomit they spew?
Meh. Mediocre eastern teams like Chicago actually take more out of you with their grinding physical defense than most run-up-the-score western teams.

[16X]

I'm proud to be one of the few who never jumped the gun and said KD has become the better player. During the season, I still referred to Bran as the best player in the world. It's ridiculous how quickly this forum jumps the gun and proclaims someone with no awards at all (MVP, FMVP) better than a 4 time MVP and back to back champion going for the 3 peat.

[BlazerRed]

Memphis vs Charlotte

[RR#9]

:facepalm @ posters insinuating that competing against superior teams en route to the Finals doesn't wear a player or team down physically and mentally.

Do Bron stans even believe the verbal vomit they spew?
The last 2 years Miami came into the finals off a 7 game grindy ECF while OKC and San Antonio played 6 and 4 games in their WCFs. Also Miami took 18 games to get to the finals in 2012 and 16 in 2013 while OKC and SA took 15 and 14 respectively. It's not like the Eastern Conference playoffs doesn't take it's toll just like the Western Conference playoffs.

[Bandito]

Meh. Mediocre eastern teams like Chicago actually take more out of you with their grinding physical defense than most run-up-the-score western teams.
:facepalm

One team/one round against four rounds of hard fought playoffs games in the west.

[Adrenalynn]

For good basketball reasons, I was happy to see OKC beat DET in the last regular season game to secure the 2nd seed and face MEM than to purposely lose and tank like Brooklyn did. OKC now has a chance to avenge their lost to MEM in last year's playoff series but even with a healthy Westbrook, KD still hasn't raise his game yet and looks like he'll be home watching MIA take on the best team from the west. Besides Tony Allen's pesky D., I'm guessing KD's satisfy that he can call himself the MVP and the best player for this regular season. If OKC loses in the 1st round then obviously he's still 2nd to LBJ.

[IMObjective]

Lebron took all the blame for not winning titles with Cleveland scrubs. KD on the other hand is probably gonna get another pass :oldlol:
I don't think so, not this time. I don't see okc fans defending him. And they shouldn't. Durant should not get a pass if he goes out in the first round. If I was an okc fan, I would be pissed and demand more from him.

[ArbitraryWater]

He was better than Lebron during the regular season. Not like Lebron has ever had a sub par playoff series, right?

So much cop out :roll:


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DEAL WITH IT, LeBron will mark off another Season as NBA's Best Player :oldlol: :applause: :pimp:

[livinglegend]

:facepalm @ posters insinuating that competing against superior teams en route to the Finals doesn't wear a player or team down physically and mentally.

Do Bron stans even believe the verbal vomit they spew?

What a lame excuse!
What does fatigue have to do with Durant s huge choke? What does the road to the finals has to do with his choke in the first round of the playoffs?
We are in the first round of the playoffs and he is choking hard. DEAL WITH IT.
He choked last year and he is doing it again. 2nd straight time.

[ForeverHeat]

Servantula will get 20+ ft attempts in Game 6, book it.

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[livinglegend]

:facepalm

One team/one round against four rounds of hard fought playoffs games in the west.

What a loser!
We all saw how hard the Spurs fought last year to get to the finals! :oldlol: They went trough 3 tough 7 games series with each of the games going to the overtime. They were done by the time they got the finals. No more energy in them. :facepalm

[livinglegend]

Servantula will get 20+ ft attempts in Game 6, book it.

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He is going to miss half of them. He s even choking at the ft line. Who would have thought? :oldlol:

[alenleomessi]

miami would sweep the grizzlies too

[SilkkTheShocker]

Loving the cop out answers in this thread. The people that picked KD look like morons. :oldlol:

[Jailblazers7]

Durant gets more excuses than anyone I've ever seen on here. If Lebron, Melo, Kobe, Rose, Dirk, etc. were in the situation that Durant is in...they would be universally crucified. Instead Westbrook gets all the blame.

[TheMan]

Memphis - 7th best defensive team
Charlotte - 5th best defensive team
Yeah let's forget the fact that the lolcats play most of their games in the LEastern C.:rolleyes:

in no world is Charlotte as good as Memphis, da fuq outta here. :mad:

[TheMan]

:facepalm @ posters insinuating that competing against superior teams en route to the Finals doesn't wear a player or team down physically and mentally.

Do Bron stans even believe the verbal vomit they spew?
I used to think they were just trolling but I'm now convinced they do really believe that shit, they're both delusional and ignorant. Easily the dumbest fanbase here.

[hahaitme]

"Miami are stacked, can't lose, collusion"

"Miami would lose to Memphis in the 1st round"

:biggums:

Even the diehard Bron stans admit he choked in 2011, but Durant is literally choking his way out of the first round, but it ain't his fault, it's Joey Crawfords.
:roll:

[ATL_Bball_King]

OKC has no excuses...

They played in 4 overtimes...

So 4 consecutive games you only had 5 mins to win the game and be the better team...

Durant should of seized his opportunity and dominated in these overtimes...

He has no excuses this time :(


Ishokace Sports

[IGOTGAME]

Durant gets more excuses than anyone I've ever seen on here. If Lebron, Melo, Kobe, Rose, Dirk, etc. were in the situation that Durant is in...they would be universally crucified. Instead Westbrook gets all the blame.

thing is he lets them make excuses for him. guy plays like crap and runs into the corner when things dont go his way. plan 2 is running into allen and throwing his hands up.

[chazzy]

He was the best player in the regular season, but there's no excuse for his play currently. So what if Memphis is better than their record and defensive ranking because of Gasol's absence - you're still expected to perform

[Jailblazers7]

thing is he lets them make excuses for him. guy plays like crap and runs into the corner when things dont go his way. plan 2 is running into allen and throwing his hands up.

Yeah, he seems to lack a certain toughness. When that jumper isn't falling he becomes stagnant. It is kinda like how Barkley or Kenny said a while ago that he still doesn't really know how to play. His go-to is a step back jumper and beyond that he doesn't do a whole lot. I really think he needs to learn a couple post moves an play less with the ball in his hands on the perimeter.

People are bringing up that the West is better than the East but is it really all that hard to imagine a similar scenario happening again Chicago, Indiana, or Boston during the Heat's past two finals runs? I don't think so.

[SilkkTheShocker]

thing is he lets them make excuses for him. guy plays like crap and runs into the corner when things dont go his way. plan 2 is running into allen and throwing his hands up.


Yea, but this seems to be common thing with Durant. LeBron, Kobe, Shaq in the past, Jordan, etc would have been absolutely crucified by the media if they were on pace to lose in the first round after an MVP season. While Durant has nowhere near the amount of accolades and hardware as Duncan, it goes to show the perks of playing for small market. Win and you get all the credit. Lose? Who gives a shit, because no one cares about the Thunder.

[Droid101]

Memphis would defeat the Heat in a 7 game series.

[Jailblazers7]

Memphis would defeat the Heat in a 7 game series.

I'm sure that's what Durant said to himself last night as he tried to fall asleep.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Memphis would defeat the Heat in a 7 game series.
Sad part you don't even believe that yourself.

[TheMan]

I'm sure that's what Durant said to himself last night as he tried to fall asleep.
:oldlol:

I do think Memphis presents some serious matchup problems with their bigs and Tony Allen would shut down current old ass Wade but they still don't have enough perimeter scoring to beat them IMO. I could see them taking them to 6 or 7 tough games doe.

[Kingwillball]

Memphis is like the bulls west not enough scoring and too much chocking to beat Miami in series. Not saying it would not be tough series close games but Miami would find ways to win and close out those games.

[red1]

Memphis would defeat the Heat in a 7 game series.
no they wouldnt

[Bandito]

I laugh at op because he thinks it is ludicrous somebody could be better thanLebran.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

I laugh at op because he thinks it is ludicrous somebody could be better thanLebran.
you are so mad the last few days...
what ahppened doe??:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

[SilkkTheShocker]

I laugh at op because he thinks it is ludicrous somebody could be better thanLebran.

I never said no one could be better than Bron. Just their isn't anyone currently in the league better. But good job to all the Bron haters that jumped back on the KD bandwagon :applause: Hopefully you all jumped off before you hit that brick wall :oldlol:

[TheMan]

I laugh at op because he thinks it is ludicrous somebody could be better thanLebran.
Silkk is a huge Bran stan so obviously he's gonna stan hard but he does have a point. KD does deserve the MVP for the stats he put up in the RS but the playoffs are where you separate the men from the boys and KD is looking horrible out there. Yeah, Memphis is a tougher team than the Bobcats but KD is bricking even on open looks and has that shook look.

OKC is a Reggie Jackson GOAT mode away from being finished right now...not a good look at all.

[Cold soul]

I said Durant was the best player in the league and I was wrong. But Durant was the best player in regular season that doesn't change the fact Lebron the superior player right now with Durant being no show against Memphis.

[rhythmic]

1) LeBron had HORRIBLE series' in the last 3-4 years, more than ONCE.
2) Durant is being guarded by Tony Allen and one of the best defenses in the league
3) LeBron continously struggled against good defenses in the playoffs; see Chicago, San Antonio and even Dallas. An aging Marion and Diaw managed to get into his head, two players that are no where near as good defensively as Tony Allen.
4) LeBron fans are desperate and pathetic. They're celebrating a sweep over the ****ing Bobcats. :applause:
5) Durant has CLEARLY been better than LeBron this regular season. It's unfortunate that he has to play in the west where their 1st round opponent could quite easily make the finals if they played in the east. :rolleyes:

[rhythmic]

I said Durant was the best player in the league and I was wrong. But Durant was the best player in regular season that doesn't change the fact Lebron the superior player right now with Durant being no show against Memphis.

Uhm Memphis arguably has the best interior defender in Gasol and the best perimeter defender in Allen; go look at LeBron's numbers against SA, Dallas, Chicago etc.

Guy's been playing garbage opponents en route to the finals the last 3 years. It's absolutely pathetic how easy the east has been. I mean Atlanta, Nets, Raptors and the collapsing Pacers are their biggest threats left. :facepalm

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[BlackVVaves]

What a lame excuse!
What does fatigue have to do with Durant s huge choke? What does the road to the finals has to do with his choke in the first round of the playoffs?
We are in the first round of the playoffs and he is choking hard. DEAL WITH IT.
He choked last year and he is doing it again. 2nd straight time.

Did I once mention KD in my post? :roll:

Try harder :oldlol:

[Real14]

Sad part you don't even believe that yourself.
Sad part iz you don't even believe that you're a heat fan.

[Real14]

I laugh at op because he thinks it is ludicrous somebody could be better thanLebran.
:lol

[Keno]

time for kobe stans to find a new bandwagon to jump on. the paul george ship has sailed away, the kevin durant ship is sailing away, i guess their next ship is wiggins or parker.

[Cold soul]

Uhm Memphis arguably has the best interior defender in Gasol and the best perimeter defender in Allen; go look at LeBron's numbers against SA, Dallas, Chicago etc.

Guy's been playing garbage opponents en route to the finals the last 3 years. It's absolutely pathetic how easy the east has been. I mean Atlanta, Nets, Raptors and the collapsing Pacers are their biggest threats left. :facepalm

Yes, Memphis has great team defense but there's no excuse for Durant playing this bad not only on offense but defense too. At least when Lebron has bad shooting game he can impact the game in many other ways defense, rebounding, passing, excellent court vison, post game finally that runs Miami offense through him while Durant will sit in corner while Westbrook bricks. Seriously, Durant needs get into weight room during this off-season add some much neede muscle and some kind of post game that's non extent right now.

[Trollsmasher]

time for kobe stans to find a new bandwagon to jump on. the paul george ship has sailed away, the kevin durant ship is sailing away, i guess their next ship is wiggins or parker.
Don't forget about AD

[rhythmic]

Yes, Memphis has great team defense but there's no excuse for Durant playing this bad not only on offense but defense too. At least when Lebron has bad shooting game he can impact the game in many other ways defense, rebounding, passing, excellent court vison, post game finally that runs Miami offense through him while Durant will sit in corner while Westbrook bricks. Seriously, Durant needs get into weight room during this off-season add some much neede muscle and some kind of post game that's non extent right now.

Such BS. Durant is averaging nearly 10 rebounds a game. 4 assists, nearly 2 blocks and 1 steal a game. How exactly is he not impacting the game in other ways?

LeBron was absolutely pathetic against SA in 2007, Dallas in 2011, and Bulls in 2013. He's allowed to have poor games, just like Durant is. SA's defense in 07' was on par with Memphis defense this year, and LeBron average 6 turnovers a game, scored 22 points on 36%.

I just think LeBron stans are forgetting that their boy has struggled before, even worse than Durant has so far against Memphis.

[rhythmic]

:facepalm is this really the route we are going to take

Says the guy that never makes a post longer than a sentence, and never actually contributes to the discussion at hand besides making sarcastic (trollish) remarks. :applause:

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[Solefade]

Ok fair enough, I will share my viewpoint on this. Let's be honest for one moment, if lebron played the way durant has been playing this series we would all collectively shit on him. Meanwhile durant plays the worst series of his life, yes this series thus far is worse than last year because last year he legit had no help when westbrook went down and no one can win one on 5 not even prime MJ. Meanwhile you are calling lebron out for series that he played when he was 22 years old literally playing 1 on 5. You are singlehandedly proving that we don't hold both players to the same standard.


it's not that complicated

lebron >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> durant in both bball and relevancy


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[red1]

Dont let the stats deceive you. If kd was playing well no reasonable person would be on his case. But in this series he is letting opportunity after opportunity slip from his hands. If they get past the grizz they will most likely make the finals and who knows what happens from there. His teammates are giving him chance after chance but he cant capitalize at all. It is not all on him because his coaching staff isnt making it any easier for him even still he is the mvp, one of the best perimeter players ever but watching this series you wouldnt know that.

[Trollsmasher]

Durant's stats are skewed by minutes

Per 36 - 21/7/3 with 3 TOs on 49% TS, PER of 18,4

[Cold soul]

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[rhythmic]

Point is, LeBron wet the bed too on a few occasions. An ignorant person is someone who can't keep things in perspective. I'm simply reminding you guys that LeBron has had WORSE performances in his career. In 2012, most people considered LeBron the best even after choking against Dallas. Yet now people are trying to reverse the table and call James the best, because Durant is struggling right now against Memphis.

KD has clearly been the best player this season, he's struggling against a great defense team. Don't act like LeBron hasn't struggled against elite defenses in the past. Just enjoy your boys easy ass ride to the finals and shut your mouths.

[rhythmic]

I'm not Lebron stan, I actually hate Lebron guts and his douche attitude. Tony Allen is atlest 6 inches shorter than Durant but he still can't take him off the dribble and get into the lane. If you believe Durant even been average this series I don't know what to tell you, I guess we watching a different game. I know Memphis is 7th seed who would be much higher if Gasol hadn't missed so many games this season. I expected much more from Durant these playoffs and he hasn't shown up yet, and it looks like he might be first MVP to lose in first round since Dirk 07.

I never once said Durant is playing well or average etc.
He has been pretty bad (scoring wise) and has been turnover prone, nothing I haven't seen from LeBron in the past on multiple occasions. Point blank.

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[Byobob]

time for kobe stans to find a new bandwagon to jump on. the paul george ship has sailed away, the kevin durant ship is sailing away, i guess their next ship is wiggins or parker.


Bran is like the Floyd Mayweather Jr. of basketball. Just on the part that his haters keeps on cheering for the guy that MIGHT dethrone him. But the fact is, nobody could dethrone them on their respective sports. YET

[Cold soul]

Point is, LeBron wet the bed too on a few occasions. An ignorant person is someone who can't keep things in perspective. I'm simply reminding you guys that LeBron has had WORSE performances in his career. In 2012, most people considered LeBron the best even after choking against Dallas. Yet now people are trying to reverse the table and call James the best, because Durant is struggling right now against Memphis.

KD has clearly been the best player this season, he's struggling against a great defense team. Don't act like LeBron hasn't struggled against elite defenses in the past. Just enjoy your boys easy ass ride to the finals and shut your mouths.

Don't get wrong Lebron has had his fair share of lackluster performances come postseason time on top of choke job in 2011 Finals. I think many are making big deal out of this due to happening two years in row against same team even though Westbrook was injured last postseason so that's enough of excuse for Durant losing 4-0 sweep. It's one thing to get bailed out by play here and there but it's entirely different if you're the franchise player getting carried by teammates for a big chuck of the game Reggie Jackson for example without him this series would already be over with.

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[sportjames23]

time for kobe stans to find a new bandwagon to jump on. the paul george ship has sailed away, the kevin durant ship is sailing away, i guess their next ship is wiggins or parker.


:oldlol:

[yeaaaman]

Very few the 2011 Finals is the the only one that comes to mind. Lebron has been spectacular most of his career in Playoffs.

I've barely read the discussion but yes Durant is having a bad series against an elite defensive team.. He's not playing the Charlotte Bobcats and yes, Lebron has had bad series too. Lebron has actually had the worst finals performance by any star that I can remember. Ever. And he's apparently on pace to be GOAT.

[yeaaaman]

choking in the first round and choking in the finals is kinda different. especially when you choke before you give your MVP speech :oldlol: at least Lebron in 2011 was the best player on the heat before the finals

Is it? It just shows that at the biggest stage, you can't get it done. The first round against a projected 55-60 win team isn't that horrible.

Great players are going to play bad sometimes. It happens

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Is it? It just shows that at the biggest stage, you can't get it done. The first round against a projected 55-60 win team isn't that horrible.

Great players are going to play bad sometimes. It happens


there's really no excuse to get eliminated in the first round when you're the MVP

[Kingwillball]

I've barely read the discussion but yes Durant is having a bad series against an elite defensive team.. He's not playing the Charlotte Bobcats and yes, Lebron has had bad series too. Lebron has actually had the worst finals performance by any star that I can remember. Ever. And he's apparently on pace to be GOAT.

Even playing horribly for him averaged 18,7,7 which for most guys would be a great series.. That is how good Lebron is and perceived.

[GODbe]

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[Duggrr]

Why do grown men (assuming) obsess so much over basketball players and are willing to argue for hours over "who the best player is?"

[HurricaneKid]

I've barely read the discussion but yes Durant is having a bad series against an elite defensive team.. He's not playing the Charlotte Bobcats and yes, Lebron has had bad series too. Lebron has actually had the worst finals performance by any star that I can remember. Ever. And he's apparently on pace to be GOAT.

The Bobcats are a better defensive team than Memphis. By a full point per game. Stop pretending Memphis is a juggernaut or that Charlotte is a defensive slouch. Charlotte's troubles are all offensive.

LeBron was 18/7/7 on .541 TS% in the Finals in 10-11.

Durant's raw totals are skewed due to the extra 4 periods but he is shooting .492 TS%. The difference between .541 and .492 over the course of an avg game is ~8.8 points/gm

LeBron deferred to DWade who was outstanding in the Finals and clearly had better matchups. Durant is just a mess.

[Mr. Jabbar]

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[knicksman]

its not excuses when OKC was playing bad ever since westbrook came back. Plus the evidence of the marburys, iverson, robertson being cancers.