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iamgine
04-30-2014, 11:41 PM
Yeah this silly goofball is probably racist and all that...

But don't some part of you want him to win somewhat...win and win BIG. 80 years old billionaire underdog just decimates his opponents ganging up on him. What an inspiring story! Give a big F U to all these disgusting political correctness nowadays.

Pushxx
04-30-2014, 11:47 PM
I just hate the double standard.

There are hundreds of other sports figures that have done far more despicable things. I just want some consistency.

If you're gonna ban a Sterling for life over what happened, hundreds of other players, coaches, and owners in history should be gone. Sterling is one of the worst figures in sports history, but that doesn't set a precedent for what is going to happen.

gts
04-30-2014, 11:57 PM
No.. i've disliked the scumbag for years... If you live in LA and have read about how he handles business it's hard to find even a shred of pity for him.

DStebb716
04-30-2014, 11:58 PM
****ing blow me. Of course nobody should be rooting for him. He's a racist scumbag.

If somebody murders 10 people are you going to root for them just because everybody is against them? This thread is ignorant.

sportjames23
05-01-2014, 12:00 AM
****ing blow me. Of course nobody should be rooting for him. He's a racist scumbag.

If somebody murders 10 people are you going to root for them just because everybody is against them? This thread is ignorant.


Thank you.

**** Sterling and his supporters.

Quickening
05-01-2014, 12:03 AM
****ing blow me. Of course nobody should be rooting for him. He's a racist scumbag.

If somebody murders 10 people are you going to root for them just because everybody is against them? This thread is ignorant.

Comparing telling a girl in the privacy of his home not to bring black men to his teams games, and not to take pictures with them to mass murder?

He is an 80 year old geriatric fck... do you know how many people that age just have a natural dislike of things different from them. Doesn't mean they're evil people and deserve to be burned at the cross.

Dresta
05-01-2014, 12:05 AM
OP this thread is concrete proof that you are a racist. I'm now going to bask in the warm glow of satisfaction my calling you a racist brings me.


****ing blow me. Of course nobody should be rooting for him. He's a racist scumbag.

If somebody murders 10 people are you going to root for them just because everybody is against them? This thread is ignorant.
Yeah because being racist and murdering 10 people are in the same realm of comparison :rolleyes: .

sd3035
05-01-2014, 12:05 AM
Sterling got baited into a borderline racist comment in private. He's already had a disproportionate amount of hate and punishment

People don't mind being rammed in the ass by their government, employers, etc. but get all butthurt when some old man they don't know says something useless :confusedshrug:

kaiteng
05-01-2014, 12:06 AM
Not rooting for Stirling but rather rooting for our privacy rights.

Marchesk
05-01-2014, 12:08 AM
Not rooting for Stirling but rather rooting for our privacy rights.

Might have helped to have the same kind of outrage against the NSA. There was some, and it was covered by the media for sure, but it didn't seem to rise to the same level.

Beastmode88
05-01-2014, 12:17 AM
****ing blow me. Of course nobody should be rooting for him. He's a racist scumbag.

If somebody murders 10 people are you going to root for them just because everybody is against them? This thread is ignorant.

How is murder the same as racism? :biggums:

BrooklynZoo
05-01-2014, 12:17 AM
hope he sues the pants off that ugly trick

dude77
05-01-2014, 12:20 AM
yeah it's more about rooting for privacy rights ..

if there's someone you should root against, it's that gold diggin' tranny piece of shit . sterling has his controversial views but it's not like the guy was refusing to sign black players or discriminate in that way .. the nba was just the party stuck in the middle .. their business started getting bombarded with bad press .. had to act

KevinNYC
05-01-2014, 12:26 AM
Yeah this silly goofball is probably racist and all that...

But don't some part of you want him to win somewhat...win and win BIG. 80 years old billionaire underdog just decimates his opponents ganging up on him. What an inspiring story! Give a big F U to all these disgusting political correctness nowadays.

You realize you've just identified yourself as a troll, right?

97 bulls
05-01-2014, 12:34 AM
Sterling got baited into a borderline racist comment in private. He's already had a disproportionate amount of hate and punishment

People don't mind being rammed in the ass by their government, employers, etc. but get all butthurt when some old man they don't know says something useless :confusedshrug:http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2014/04/27/donald-sterling-racist-audio-v-stiviano-recorded-clippers

Sterling knew he was being taped.

9erempiree
05-01-2014, 12:39 AM
I don't support racists and greedy corporatins (NBA) but I support mankind and their rights. So I support Sterling.

Human rights >>>>> feelings hurt because of a private phone conversation.

Big deal. There are a lot of racism in our world but I support humans and not a group of minorities. They should not get special treatment.

I do support minorities and everyone's right as humans to have freedom of speech and privacy. Political correctness is going to be the motor that takes away our rights. Heck, political correctness has allowed racial profiling.

Al Qaeda wear turbans, so government agencies and TSA suddenly made it ok to profile because it is politically correct since they bombed us.:facepalm

Humans rights are always and will be above racism towards blacks. Once we fight for everyone's rights, that will end racism because we will have the same rights.

Akrazotile
05-01-2014, 01:11 AM
I honestly hope he goes HAM on the trolling bc of this. Not because Im rooting for him, I just want to see the hypocrites on the other side get trolled. I hope Sterling publicly confirms Paul's demand for a black coach. Also would be hilarious if he said embarrassing things about his escort chick, and just made funny and absurd comments publicly while hopefully dropping some truth bombs while he has the stage. He'll probably say virtually nothing publicly as usual but Im hoping that he does.

dude77
05-01-2014, 01:15 AM
I'm sure Sterling has some dirt on fellow nba colleagues .. he could go nuts and start naming names .. then again they might threaten him and scare the fk outta him into not trying that .. gonna be interesting how this all plays out

navy
05-01-2014, 01:15 AM
Not rooting for Stirling but rather rooting for our privacy rights.
The NBA is a private institution, not the government. How can you root for privacy rights?

MVBallin2K
05-01-2014, 01:18 AM
No matter what side you take...the guy is an idiot who deserves to sell the team and lose his job.

You can talk about invasion of privacy or that he knew he was being recorded. It doesn't matter. The guy owns a basketball team and whether due to old age or just being an idiot, he talked about this on the phone. Any owner, any person in power should know not to say something that's going to get them in trouble. Whether they beleive it or not, you HAVE to be smart.

If Obama got roasted for comments he made and lost his role as President, then he'd deserve the axe too. It's not about race, it's about stupidity and this guy showed it.

ihoopallday
05-01-2014, 01:25 AM
The NBA is a private institution, not the government. How can you root for privacy rights?

:lol Don't know why most people have no clue how the amendment works. You got people shouting "free speech!" for Sterling, yet don't even understand how that works.

navy
05-01-2014, 01:28 AM
:lol Don't know why most people have no clue how the amendment works. You got people shouting "free speech!" for Sterling, yet don't even understand how that works.
The NBA can do whatever they want to Sterling. And he cant sue them back unless it shows they broke the NBA constitution. I havent seen a single piece of proof suggesting that Silver did.

Retards in here talking about his right to privacy. :oldlol: Uneducated dolts. What happens between Sterling and the escort is irrelevant. If he is wise he will pay her to not release the 100 hours of tapes she has. Everything will come out if he takes a long as lawsuit that 9/10 times results in a settlement.

wally_world
05-01-2014, 01:37 AM
Sterling got baited into a borderline racist comment in private. He's already had a disproportionate amount of hate and punishment

People don't mind being rammed in the ass by their government, employers, etc. but get all butthurt when some old man they don't know says something useless :confusedshrug:

This. Nothing he said was even blatantly racist, we inferred the racism ourselves.

Kovach
05-01-2014, 01:39 AM
Never seen or even heard of the guy before this, have more important things to do than to care about who owns what team. However, if someone can honestly get offended by what some guy they do not know said to another person they also do not know over the phone, it is possible that they have serious mental issues they might want to have checked.

navy
05-01-2014, 01:48 AM
This. Nothing he said was even blatantly racist, we inferred the racism ourselves.

You're an idiot.
[QUOTE]
Donald Sterling: It

zoom17
05-01-2014, 01:49 AM
This whole thing is a shit fest.

NumberSix
05-01-2014, 01:57 AM
I don't think ANYBODY is rooting for him. I think people are just rooting for a principle. Just as when somebody you believe to be guilty, you root for him to get a fair trial, not because you like the person, but the larger picture that the idea of an unbiased justice system for the purpose of protecting all people is more important than catching a bad guy at all costs.

9erempiree
05-01-2014, 02:01 AM
Donald Sterling: It’s the world! You go to Israel, the blacks are just treated like dogs.
V. Stiviano: So do you have to treat them like that too?
DS: The white Jews, there’s white Jews and black Jews, do you understand?
V: And are the black Jews less than the white Jews?
DS: A hundred percent, fifty, a hundred percent.
V: And is that right?
DS: It isn’t a question—we don’t evaluate what’s right and wrong, we live in a society. We live in a culture. We have to live within that .

I don't see anything racist about this conversation. I am going to summarize what he said:

Israel treats blacks like dogs. There are white jews and black jews. Black jews are 100 or 50 percent less than white because of how they are treated. We don't know if its right or wrong, that is not the question, we live in a society. We live in a culture. We have to live within our culture and it is not for us to judge Israel.

Sterling basically says how Israel treat blacks is not for the two of them to judge. People infer this as racism because of the stupid question that chicken head was asking. If Sterling wrote a summary of his comments, it would be very similar to the one I typed.

It is not for me (9er) to judge either. I am living in my society and culture too.

Try reading and summarizing what Sterling said without those questions and people will clearly see he said nothing wrong.

wally_world
05-01-2014, 02:02 AM
You're an idiot.

Where was that from? I didn't hear that from the voice clip

Even so, where was the racist part from that?

Donald Sterling: It

dannysc305
05-01-2014, 02:02 AM
Fvck Sterling apologists

navy
05-01-2014, 02:14 AM
Fvck Sterling apologists
Even Sterling isnt apologizing for his comments. Apologist dont think it's odd he didnt make the same excuses? Even his "wife" staright up rebuked him. :oldlol:

This guy has a repeated history of blatant racism and discrimination and people are really trying to infer something different? What is wrong with yall?

Root for Sterling if you like. He is done. If the owners fail to remove him, the players and fans will see to it that he is gone. I dont care either way. Sounds like this was a long time coming.

9erempiree
05-01-2014, 02:21 AM
The funny thing is that I brought this up in another forum and told them to write a summary of what Sterling said and nothing racist was said.

Just like my example from my post before. Write a summary and you will realize he didn't say anything wrong.

Dresta
05-01-2014, 02:21 AM
:facepalm

This navy guy is one retarded mother****er. Keep building those straw men.

navy
05-01-2014, 02:25 AM
There are no argument to be had. I honestly dont care. Sterling has a well documented history of this sort of thing, it really should have happened sooner. Sterling is done. He will removed by vote or by boycott and my life and his will change very little because of it.

Root for him, make excuses for him, think he's not a racist, or whatever. Blame it on his old age or his gold digging girlfriend. It really doesnt matter.

Lakers Legend#32
05-01-2014, 02:29 AM
Thunder fans

KyleKong
05-01-2014, 02:31 AM
Sterling knew he was being taped.

But boo wooo private phone calls are private.

Dresta
05-01-2014, 02:33 AM
There are no argument to be had. I honestly dont care. Sterling has a well documented history of this sort of thing, it really should have happened sooner. Sterling is done. He will removed by vote or by boycott and my life and his will change very little because of it.

Root for him, make excuses for him, think he's not a racist, or whatever. Blame it on his old age or his gold digging girlfriend. It really doesnt matter.
Stop pretending to know what is going to happen because you haven't got a ****ing clue.

And you 'don't care' but he is deffo gonna be removed for something of which the specifics 'don't matter'- do you know how stupid you sound? When you are talking about a $1 billion asset, you aren't forcing anything without a ton of litigation, and if you can't understand that then you're a complete retard.

KyleKong
05-01-2014, 02:34 AM
Stop pretending to know what is going to happen because you haven't got a ****ing clue.

And you 'don't care' but he is deffo gonna be removed for something of which the specifics 'don't matter'- do you know how stupid you sound? When you are talking about a $1 billion asset, you aren't forcing anything without a ton of litigation, and if you can't understand that then you're a complete retard.

A retard? Dresta maddddd

Dresta
05-01-2014, 02:38 AM
A retard? Dresta maddddd
'there are no argument to be had' says Mr. Clairvoyant over there

navy
05-01-2014, 02:39 AM
Stop pretending to know what is going to happen because you haven't got a ****ing clue.

And you 'don't care' but he is deffo gonna be removed for something of which the specifics 'don't matter'- do you know how stupid you sound? When you are talking about a $1 billion asset, you aren't forcing anything without a ton of litigation, and if you can't understand that then you're a complete retard.


Dont be an idiot. Sterling is damaged goods. Any involvement he has with the league will be detrimental.

Which is why this "argument" doesnt matter. Let's say for argument sake Sterling was NOT being racist in the tape. You really think the NBA is going to rescind it's punishment? The Clippers players are going to open up back to Sterling? The NBA players are going to sit around and ignore that this ever happened? The Clippers sponsors will return? The perception of Sterling will change into a positive? No. On all accounts. He is done. He has no legs to stand on. Now his entire history is being slowly but surely exposed.

This is why this argument doesnt matter. Sterling is done.

But feel free to infer man. Well he wasn't really being racist here I mean, he lives in a racist culture, has racist friends and perpetuates such nonsense. But he isnt a racist himself. Everyone around him just is.

9erempiree
05-01-2014, 02:39 AM
Stop pretending to know what is going to happen because you haven't got a ****ing clue.

And you 'don't care' but he is deffo gonna be removed for something of which the specifics 'don't matter'- do you know how stupid you sound? When you are talking about a $1 billion asset, you aren't forcing anything without a ton of litigation, and if you can't understand that then you're a complete retard.

Navy dude is just :facepalm

The media and all this outrage have clouded everyone's mind. Suddenly they can't think for themselves.

Notice how Navy dude just goes "I don't care!" "He has to sell!" "He is a racist!" without having to put some thought on why this is happening and the ramifications it is going to have on the NBA and how privacy, media conglomerates and public perception is going to fvck with us.

Once, again, the nation is divided. First it was Martin/Zimm and now its for or against Sterling.

People should wake up. Rascism exists everyday. Sterling is a scapegoat.

This is the same league that stripped a city of its team. As soon as Sterling made these comments and sponsorships started to stay away, is when the NBA had to step in. Public pressure forced them to ban Sterling and the lost of money, which they can actually make back in no time. The NBA is pretty spineless in how they succumb to public pressure.

:facepalm

KyleKong
05-01-2014, 02:43 AM
What you apologists are failing to understand here is that this is entirely a P.R. move by outsting Sterling.

Did what Sterling say was wrong? Yes.

Did the Media make it national news past the 24 hours news cycle? Yes.

Were players protesting? Yes.

Was this detrimental to the future of the Clippers? Yes.

Silver is protecting his brand, nothing more.

navy
05-01-2014, 02:47 AM
Sterling is not a racist at all.


Donald Sterling's latest act of racism is far from his first. To fully grasp how loathsome the Los Angeles Clippers owner's bigotry is and the extent to which it influences his personal and professional life, we've collected a selection of the worst statements attributed to Sterling.

I wanna know why you think you can coach these ******s.
(To potential coach Rollie Massimino, 1983)

That's because of all the blacks in this building, they smell, they're not clean.
(To a property supervisor, 2002, sworn testimony.)

And it's because of all of the Mexicans that just sit around and smoke and drink all day.
(Ibid.)

I don't like Mexican men because they smoke, drink and just hang around the house.
(Ibid.)

Is she one of those black people that stink? [...] Just evict the bitch.
(Ibid.)

I'm offering a lot of money for a poor black kid.
(On negotiations to sign Danny Manning, 1988, allegedly in David Stern's presence.)

I don't have to spend any more money on them, they will take whatever conditions I give them and still pay the rent.
(On Koreans, sworn testimony.)

According to former general manger Elgin Baylor, Sterling envisioned a "Southern Plantation type structure" for the Clippers, one in which, as he allegedly put it to Baylor, "poor black boys from the South" played for a white head coach.
(2009.)

Why are you taking pictures with minorities? Why? It's like talking to an enemy. Hispanics feel certain things towards blacks. Blacks feel certain things toward other groups [...] It will always be that way. [...] It bothers me a lot that you're associating with black people. [...] You're supposed to be a delicate white or a delicate Latina girl. [...] You don't have to have yourself walking with black people.
(2014.)

In 2009 Sterling was subject to the largest housing discrimination lawsuit payout ever, related to his attempts to evict blacks and Hispanics from his properties. In 2011 he testified that he did not know Hall of Famer Elgin Baylor had been a basketball player at the time Baylor was hired by the Clippers. That same year, he celebrated Black History Month in the wrong month.

Other Sterling lowlights:

In 2011, he refused to cover a Clippers assistant coach's prostate cancer treatment, forcing NBA players to pay for it. Players complained Sterling brought women into the locker room while they were showering, and told the women to "look at those beautiful black bodies."

Oh, and then there's all the sexual harassment lawsuits and Sterling's demands that women "let me put it in [...] or suck on it."

When you pay a woman for sex, you are not together with her. You're paying her for a few moments to use her body for sex. Is it clear? Is it clear?
(Sterling's own sworn testimony, 2003.)

ESPN's Bomani Jones wrote, "It was fun to laugh at Donald Sterling when he was a joke. Now that we know what he's up to when he's being serious, he deserves a lot more attention."

Jones wrote those words in 2006.

Dresta
05-01-2014, 02:56 AM
Dont be an idiot. Sterling is damaged goods. Any involvement he has with the league will be detrimental.

Which is why this "argument" doesnt matter. Let's say for argument sake Sterling was NOT being racist in the tape. You really think the NBA is going to rescind it's punishment? The Clippers players are going to open up back to Sterling? The NBA players are going to sit around and ignore that this ever happened? The Clippers sponsors will return? The perception of Sterling will change into a positive? No. On all accounts. He is done. He has no legs to stand on. Now his entire history is being slowly but surely exposed.

This is why this argument doesnt matter. Sterling is done.
If he continues to refuse to sell and claims devaluation of his asset then this will likely not be going away for a long time. Maybe the NBA will cough up several hundred million dollars of compensation, but i can't see them wanting to do that. We will see, but it is a murky area, and you haven't got a clue what's going to happen, so stop pretending.

You also seem to be oblivious that plenty weren't arguing about the outcome at all, but what a joke this media witch hunt has been, with everyone piling in left, right, and center to show who can act the most outraged. I personally dislike such extreme social pressure being exerted over a taped private conversation containing no illegal activity, regardless of who it is aimed at. Some of the people that own EPL football teams are much worse human beings than Donald Sterling, yet no one cares, and they have no problems getting lucrative sponsorship deals

Sarcastic
05-01-2014, 03:05 AM
Sterling is bad for business. That's the reason he was removed. Has nothing to do with privacy rights.


And it's not like there is no precedence for this.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c9/Marge_Schott.jpg/220px-Marge_Schott.jpg


http://images.forbes.com/media/lists/10/2010/edward-debartolo-jr.jpg

Dresta
05-01-2014, 03:06 AM
Sterling is not a racist at all.
And none of that at all is relevant to the grotesque media witch-hunting that would have slapped any owner in the face (regardless of his past) if he had been recorded saying something a bit racist. There wasn't even a pretence of giving the man fair treatment, and that is worrying for the future.

Hardly anyone actually gives a shit about Sterling because he is clearly a prick, but you (and others) are completely missing the point and are completely obsessed with this one individual and thus think everyone has to be either attacking the man, or is an 'apologist' or whatever. It's just more tedious groupthink and emotive bs.

Verticality
05-01-2014, 03:12 AM
And none of that at all is relevant to the grotesque media witch-hunting that would have slapped any owner in the face (regardless of his past) if he had been recorded saying something a bit racist. There wasn't even a pretence of giving the man fair treatment, and that is worrying for the future.



You are complaining for fair treatment of Sterling? :biggums:

It is not even fair after potentially getting in huge trouble with the Baylor situation? He had his warning to stop being racist multiple times before, and he didn't. That is more than fair.

navy
05-01-2014, 03:13 AM
I am not obsessed with sterling at all. As Ive said many times, I dont really care. He's a billionaire that literally sits around all day at his age and ****s gold diggers.

What I am obsessed with is the nonsense that continues to get regurgitated on this forum. Stupid shit like freedom of speech and a right to privacy and the first amendment. Every time something of this nature comes up I see several idiots referring to things they clearly do not understand.

dude77
05-01-2014, 03:16 AM
And none of that at all is relevant to the grotesque media witch-hunting that would have slapped any owner in the face (regardless of his past) if he had been recorded saying something a bit racist. There wasn't even a pretence of giving the man fair treatment, and that is worrying for the future.

Hardly anyone actually gives a shit about Sterling because he is clearly a prick, but you (and others) are completely missing the point and are completely obsessed with this one individual and thus think everyone has to be either attacking the man, or is an 'apologist' or whatever. It's just more tedious groupthink and emotive bs.

I was thinking about this ..

when something like this happens .. there are no questions .. no talking .. it becomes basically a lynching in the media .. full force steam ahead with nothing to stop it ..

why didn't anyone ask for Sterling to give his side .. give an explanation .. hear his side of the story .. none of that mattered .. well he did talk to Silver but that meant nothing because the 'public had spoken' ..

the public doesn't want any explanations, they just want a lynching .. people like to see the downfall of other people .. it's entertainment .. they took whatever words they heard and decided his fate right then and there ... just how it goes .. you have to be careful what you say and who you say it to period

jstern
05-01-2014, 03:22 AM
What I find funny is how many support him based on technicalities. Like, "I'm not racist, but his gf recorded him, that's not fair, I'm rooting for him."

Just finding little excuses to support him.

Like, "Murder is worse than racism, wtf, I support him."

I decided to check out a conservative forum to see what they were saying about him, and wow, 24 pages of pure support, and outrage over the way Sterling is being treated, and hatred for black people

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2540119/pg1


I am not obsessed with sterling at all. As Ive said many times, I dont really care. He's a billionaire that literally sits around all day at his age and ****s gold diggers.

What I am obsessed with is the nonsense that continues to get regurgitated on this forum. Stupid shit like freedom of speech and a right to privacy and the first amendment. Every time something of this nature comes up I see several idiots referring to things they clearly do not understand.

This right here.

Sarcastic
05-01-2014, 03:26 AM
Sterling was given the chance to say his side of the story. Silver heard it. He then acted in accordance to the NBA Constitution, and did what was necessary to protect the product(NBA) that he represents.


Just like every future franchise owner in the NBA has to be vetted, if the current franchise owners decide that they do not want a current owner to continue to be part of the league, they have the power to remove him.

raiderfan19
05-01-2014, 03:57 AM
Sterling was given the chance to say his side of the story. Silver heard it. He then acted in accordance to the NBA Constitution, and did what was necessary to protect the product(NBA) that he represents.


Just like every future franchise owner in the NBA has to be vetted, if the current franchise owners decide that they do not want a current owner to continue to be part of the league, they have the power to remove him.
This isn't exactly true. Its incredibly nebulous about whether or not forcing him to sell in this circumstance is within their power. His rights to privacy and freedom of speech don't really come into play/weren't violated here. That being said his property rights are being violated.

Also if you are a clipper fan in la, you might want to reconsider wanting him to be forced out. Because it he's forced out, the clippers are going to Seattle. The league MIGHT be able to take over the franchise and sell it, but they have to take the highest bid or there will be hell to pay, legally speaking.

Dresta
05-01-2014, 04:11 AM
You are complaining for fair treatment of Sterling? :biggums:

It is not even fair after potentially getting in huge trouble with the Baylor situation? He had his warning to stop being racist multiple times before, and he didn't. That is more than fair.
The media bandwagon was full steam ahead before anyone even said anything about Baylor, and before 95+% of people even knew about it.


What I find funny is how many support him based on technicalities. Like, "I'm not racist, but his gf recorded him, that's not fair, I'm rooting for him."

Just finding little excuses to support him.

Like, "Murder is worse than racism, wtf, I support him."

I decided to check out a conservative forum to see what they were saying about him, and wow, 24 pages of pure support, and outrage over the way Sterling is being treated, and hatred for black people

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2540119/pg1

This right here.This whole post is idiotic beyond belief. You've proven yourself incapable of comprehending the arguments being made, as your attempted rehash is not even close to what most on here have been saying. Why can't you think in anything but teams? It always has to be for or against in your mind, with nothing else being important other than which side you choose. Well, guess what? I'm not on anybody's side, and it is getting really tiresome having dumbasses like yourself accusing people of being racist or supporting racism just because you're too stupid to actually engage in any kind of legitimate discourse.

NumberSix
05-01-2014, 04:14 AM
Sterling was given the chance to say his side of the story. Silver heard it. He then acted in accordance to the NBA Constitution, and did what was necessary to protect the product(NBA) that he represents.


Just like every future franchise owner in the NBA has to be vetted, if the current franchise owners decide that they do not want a current owner to continue to be part of the league, they have the power to remove him.
What so many "liberals" (laugh. These people are for anything but liberty) don't understand though is... YOU don't get to unilaterally decide what is acceptable and what is unacceptable. YOU don't get to be the only side that has its voice heard.

It's within your right to tell the NBA what you value. YOU don't get to tell us we are not allowed to tell the NBA what we value. I value the ability to think anything you like without punishment even if what you think is thoroughly offensive.

The NBA doesn't want to lose business. If it believes that fans will stop supporting the NBA if it lets Sterling stay, that's their choice to make. You have every right to voice that opinion. I have just as much right to voice a different opinion. I have every right to tell the NBA that they could lose my support if they punish free speech.

That's freedom. We both get to voice what we value and leverage our support. YOU don't get to silence us. You can voice that you won't support racism. I can voice that I won't support punishing free speech. YOU don't get to decide that my argument isn't up for discussion.

Sarcastic
05-01-2014, 04:17 AM
This isn't exactly true. Its incredibly nebulous about whether or not forcing him to sell in this circumstance is within their power. His rights to privacy and freedom of speech don't really come into play/weren't violated here. That being said his property rights are being violated.

Also if you are a clipper fan in la, you might want to reconsider wanting him to be forced out. Because it he's forced out, the clippers are going to Seattle. The league MIGHT be able to take over the franchise and sell it, but they have to take the highest bid or there will be hell to pay, legally speaking.


Article 13(a):


The Membership of a Member or the interest of any Owner may be terminated by a vote of three fourths (3/4) of the Board of Governors if the Member or Owner shall do or suffer any of the following:

(a) Willfully violate any of the provisions of the Constitution and By-Laws, resolutions, or agreements of the Association.


Article 35A(d):


The Commissioner shall have the power to suspend for a definite or indefinite period, or to impose a fine not exceeding $1,000,000, or inflict both such suspension and fine upon any person who, in his opinion, shall have been guilty of conduct prejudicial or detrimental to the Association.


Not nebulous at all.

Sarcastic
05-01-2014, 04:19 AM
What so many "liberals" (laugh. These people are for anything but liberty) don't understand though is... YOU don't get to unilaterally decide what is acceptable and what is unacceptable. YOU don't get to be the only side that has its voice heard.

It's within your right to tell the NBA what you value. YOU don't get to tell us we are not allowed to tell the NBA what we value. I value the ability to think anything you like without punishment even if what you think is thoroughly offensive.

The NBA doesn't want to lose business. If it believes that fans will stop supporting the NBA if it lets Sterling stay, that's their choice to make. You have every right to voice that opinion. I have just as much right to voice a different opinion. I have every right to tell the NBA that they could lose my support if they punish free speech.

That's freedom. We both get to voice what we value and leverage our support. YOU don't get to silence us. You can voice that you won't support racism. I can voice that I won't support punishing free speech. YOU don't get to decide that my argument isn't up for discussion.

I didn't decide anything. Adam Silver did. He's the Commissioner of the NBA.


No one is stopping you from having your opinion. Unfortunately for you, your opinion has no bearing on Silver's decision.

NumberSix
05-01-2014, 04:23 AM
I didn't decide anything. Adam Silver did. He's the Commissioner of the NBA.


No one is stopping you from having your opinion. Unfortunately for you, your opinion has no bearing on Silver's decision.
If it gets loud enough to the point where the NBA thinks it will hurt business, it will. Just as the loudness of the anti-Sterling opinion did.


#freedom

Sarcastic
05-01-2014, 04:25 AM
If it gets loud enough to the point where the NBA thinks it will hurt business, it will. Just as the loudness of the anti-Sterling opinion did.


#freedom


I don't disagree.

Spurs5Rings2014
05-01-2014, 04:30 AM
Racists never were logical/rational.

Racist =/= not racist.

Agreeing to being recorded =/= recorded without one's knowledge.

Private company =/= the government.

Basically, supporters don't have one legit excuse for their ill-informed opinion. Hardly a surprise.

SacJB Shady
05-01-2014, 04:35 AM
Yes Donald Sterling should get to stay, u cant force a person to get off their property. He owns the team its his team. Now if you are a fan, you have the option to support his team or not. You cannot have it both ways. U cannot support his team and then hate on him. You cannot eat your cake and have it too. For Sterling his punishment is his reputation, his loss of endorsements, and his revenue.

SacJB Shady
05-01-2014, 04:42 AM
I am not obsessed with sterling at all. As Ive said many times, I dont really care. He's a billionaire that literally sits around all day at his age and ****s gold diggers.

What I am obsessed with is the nonsense that continues to get regurgitated on this forum. Stupid shit like freedom of speech and a right to privacy and the first amendment. Every time something of this nature comes up I see several idiots referring to things they clearly do not understand.


It's pretty obvious that Adam Silver is new on the job and succumb to his community's pressure. It's politics at its purest. Every single owner has things about them that could get them in trouble. Sterling is not the only one. The NBA is clearly walking on slippery slopes by judging Sterling what he said in his own house. Words and actions are two different things. Its all politics. The NBA is a black guys league and they are very hurt & offended. However, once you favor blacks, u r running on slippery slopes. Then you have to take into account all the anti gay people, etc.. Silver is a rookie. He jumped the gun by trying ti make a name for himself. Sterling has the money, the experience, and the willpower to win this battle in court. I maintain that NBA has no right to remove Sterling from his team based on a private conversation, not to mention privacy violation.

NumberSix
05-01-2014, 04:45 AM
Racists never were logical/rational.

Racist =/= not racist.

Agreeing to being recorded =/= recorded without one's knowledge.

Private company =/= the government.

Basically, supporters don't have one legit excuse for their ill-informed opinion. Hardly a surprise.
It's a free speech issue. NOT a 1st amendment issue.

The government CAN'T punish free speech. A private entity like the NBA CAN choose to punish free speech, but it can also choose NOT to. It's a choice.

I have every right to leverage my support for the NBA and say "I will not support your product if you choose to punish free speech".

You can leverage your support as well and say "I will not support you if you choose to keep Sterling".

What you don't get to do is tell me that you get to leverage your support for your interests, but I don't get to leverage support for mine.

That's the free market. The NBA has to choose which CHOICE will be better for business.

Dresta
05-01-2014, 04:45 AM
Racists never were logical/rational.

Racist =/= not racist.

Agreeing to being recorded =/= recorded without one's knowledge.

Private company =/= the government.

Basically, supporters don't have one legit excuse for their ill-informed opinion. Hardly a surprise.
Another person incapable of reading. :applause:

jstern
05-01-2014, 04:46 AM
The media bandwagon was full steam ahead before anyone even said anything about Baylor, and before 95+% of people even knew about it.

This whole post is idiotic beyond belief. You've proven yourself incapable of comprehending the arguments being made, as your attempted rehash is not even close to what most on here have been saying. Why can't you think in anything but teams? It always has to be for or against in your mind, with nothing else being important other than which side you choose. Well, guess what? I'm not on anybody's side, and it is getting really tiresome having dumbasses like yourself accusing people of being racist or supporting racism just because you're too stupid to actually engage in any kind of legitimate discourse.

I have no idea why you're sooo mad. Is it because I mentioned conservatives and you think I'm lumping all conservatives into a group, and you yourself are a conservative and feel insulted?

Well, most people do tend to assimilate and act like each other. Most people can't think for themselves. If you go to that conservative website that I posted, everyone has the same talking points and never go off the scripts. If someone is of the opinion that Sterling is a racists, they ignore all the reason why that person might believe that Sterling is a racist and go on a rant about free speech, NSA, etc, etc. They'll go on to talk about how blacks commit all the crimes, things that have nothing to do with the comments that were made, just to ignore the possibility that Sterling has racist feelings. They'll go on criticizing players who's names or faces they don't know, saying things like, "Criminals who commit drive byes, who would be in prison if it wasn't for Sterling," yet those same people have a problem saying that Sterling is racists, or that they themselves are racist.

9erempiree
05-01-2014, 04:46 AM
As much as I hate Sterling but this public lynching is a "mob" mentality that existed on the plantation years ago. We are a country that is ruled by laws and not public perception.

Go google M0zilla's CEO who resigned this week due to the remarks about supporting anti-gay marriages in 2008. He was pressured by the "gay mob".

While his views are ugly, discrimination cannot be proved against him. Couple this with the forced exit of the M0zilla's CEO and we have the beginnings of a trend when anything people say in any environment that causes offense to the progressives can be used to force them out. Even progressives ought to be disturbed by that.

SacJB Shady
05-01-2014, 04:47 AM
Sterling is a racist, but it never affected his business decisions in the NBA. You don't see an all white NBA team. If u don't like him, don't pay him. Simple. Don't buy his products, don't go to his games. If u are hurt, get over it. There are plenty of racists in this world. Unfortunately he has a skank girlfriend.

SacJB Shady
05-01-2014, 04:49 AM
As much as I hate Sterling but this public lynching is a "mob" mentality that existed on the plantation years ago. We are a country that is ruled by laws and not public perception.

Go google M0zilla's CEO who resigned this week due to the remarks about supporting anti-gay marriages in 2008. He was pressured by the "gay mob".

While his views are ugly, discrimination cannot be proved against him. Couple this with the forced exit of the M0zilla's CEO and we have the beginnings of a trend when anything people say in any environment that causes offense to the progressives can be used to force them out. Even progressives ought to be disturbed by that.


Bingo. People are just butt hurt. He's an 80 year old bigot, he's from a different era. Most 80 year old's are racists, pure and simple. He will definitely sue the NBA and win.

Sarcastic
05-01-2014, 04:50 AM
Yes Donald Sterling should get to stay, u cant force a person to get off their property. He owns the team its his team. Now if you are a fan, you have the option to support his team or not. You cannot have it both ways. U cannot support his team and then hate on him. You cannot eat your cake and have it too. For Sterling his punishment is his reputation, his loss of endorsements, and his revenue.


The team is not his property. He is a franchise owner. The NBA owns the rights to the all the teams, and sells the franchise rights to the 30 owners.

navy
05-01-2014, 04:52 AM
Sterling is a racist, but it never affected his business decisions in the NBA.
This is a lie.

navy
05-01-2014, 04:53 AM
Bingo. People are just butt hurt. He's an 80 year old bigot, he's from a different era. Most 80 year old's are racists, pure and simple. He will definitely sue the NBA and win.
The lawsuit would probably be thrown out. The nba constitution is of minimal concern of the US government.

GimmeThat
05-01-2014, 04:57 AM
Not rooting for Sterling

but I will call it the (9/11 effect)

it has exposed the hatred that still exist, even amongst the blacks against other race.

9erempiree
05-01-2014, 04:58 AM
Also a society that divorces itself from it's own laws fosters the entire society believing in two systems of justice. This is what we have here.

-Spike Lee tweeted the address of Zimmerman in an angry rant and was never charged with a crime due to the subject matter. Illegal, but due to the public outrage, no charges were pressed.

-NBC News altered a 911 call to show Zimmerman was a racist to influence the jury pool. That is illegal and should be punishable. Due to the subject matter, nothing happened.

-Just yesterday a guy running for Congress in VA asked on Twitter for his followers to "run a license plate" of a Tea Party protestor's pickup truck because he said the Police needed to know who this "Domestic Terrorist" was. This act violates a number of privacy laws as he Tweeted a personal license plate and implied illegal activity.

It is a dangerous precedence regardless of the validity of the offense. Standing in the way of the "mob"

Dresta
05-01-2014, 05:02 AM
I have no idea why you're sooo mad. Is it because I mentioned conservatives and you think I'm lumping all conservatives into a group, and you yourself are a conservative and feel insulted?

Well, most people do tend to assimilate and act like each other. Most people can't think for themselves. If you go to that conservative website that I posted, everyone has the same talking points and never go off the scripts. If someone is of the opinion that Sterling is a racists, they ignore all the reason why that person might believe that Sterling is a racist and go on a rant about free speech, NSA, etc, etc.
I'm not 'sooo mad' at all, your post was simply idiotic, and i decided to let you know about it. You misrepresented the arguments of others and then went on to brand them all as being conservatives 'just finding little excuses to support him' - being opposed to media driven witch-hunts that can turn an individual into a national hate figure in a matter of hours without any bother is something to be concerned about regardless of who is the target, and has nothing to do with being conservative (which i am not). Most of the outraged people right now won't even have listened to the tape, and yet they already despise Sterling with all their heart because they have been told to by outraged talking heads.

jstern
05-01-2014, 05:10 AM
I'm not 'sooo mad' at all, your post was simply idiotic, and i decided to let you know about it. You misrepresented the arguments of others and then went on to brand them all as being conservatives 'just finding little excuses to support him' - being opposed to media driven witch-hunts that can turn an individual into a national hate figure in a matter of hours without any bother is something to be concerned about regardless of who is the target, and has nothing to do with being conservative (which i am not). Most of the outraged people right now won't even have listened to the tape, and yet they already despise Sterling with all their heart because they have been told to by outraged talking heads.

I added more to my comment just now.

And no, the link to the the conservative website was something that I thought of adding right before I logged on to ISH because I thought it was interesting, and it's separate from whatever comments were made here, since I don't associate ISH with politics. (There might be some similarities now that I think about it, but I didn't associate them with conservatives) The part where I talked about the conservative website is separate from the comment that I made about the Sterling apologist.

Also, I don't feel that most people despite Sterling with all their hearts, or even really care about him. They just have an opinion.

I find most black people on TV feel sorry for them, say that they feel sorry for him, because he just comes off as a sad figure, billionaire who has lived 80 years concerned and getting really worked up about something so stupid.

SacJB Shady
05-01-2014, 05:10 AM
The team is not his property. He is a franchise owner. The NBA owns the rights to the all the teams, and sells the franchise rights to the 30 owners.


Problem s Sterling could probably get at least 5 owners terminated then. He has years of emails and could prove that their are other racists.

9erempiree
05-01-2014, 05:25 AM
We know Sterling is a racist and "racist" isn't a legal term or used in the court of law. However, the term "discrimination" can be. Sterling has lost many discrimination cases in the past but his track record with the Clippers have been great. Heck, Elgin Baylor was a longtime GM of his and he can easily pull up the records of all the minorities he has hired. My point? He has done nothing wrong by being a racist. It is morally wrong but no laws were broken for him to lose his franchise.

The other point, he may or may not lose his team but one thing is for certain, he will win if this goes to court. No contract from any league can supersede federal law in regards to franchise property ownership. You cannot get kicked out of a partnership or entity if you have shares in them. In this instance, those millions of dollars that Sterling put into his company, Clippers.

I hate Sterling and that crappy team of his but lets not public dictate the laws of this country. Everything you say or do in the privacy of your own home is now grounds for punitive action if there is enough public reaction.

Just like ISH.....Do you really want the ISH public to start influencing who gets banned because we don't agree with them? Or if someone post your PM's on the forums and you get banned for talking about someone in private?

All Net
05-01-2014, 08:43 AM
No.. i've disliked the scumbag for years... If you live in LA and have read about how he handles business it's hard to find even a shred of pity for him.
Damn right.

oh the horror
05-01-2014, 08:57 AM
We know Sterling is a racist and "racist" isn't a legal term or used in the court of law. However, the term "discrimination" can be. Sterling has lost many discrimination cases in the past but his track record with the Clippers have been great. Heck, Elgin Baylor was a longtime GM of his and he can easily pull up the records of all the minorities he has hired. My point? He has done nothing wrong by being a racist. It is morally wrong but no laws were broken for him to lose his franchise.

The other point, he may or may not lose his team but one thing is for certain, he will win if this goes to court. No contract from any league can supersede federal law in regards to franchise property ownership. You cannot get kicked out of a partnership or entity if you have shares in them. In this instance, those millions of dollars that Sterling put into his company, Clippers.

I hate Sterling and that crappy team of his but lets not public dictate the laws of this country. Everything you say or do in the privacy of your own home is now grounds for punitive action if there is enough public reaction.

Just like ISH.....Do you really want the ISH public to start influencing who gets banned because we don't agree with them? Or if someone post your PM's on the forums and you get banned for talking about someone in private?




Ask Elgin Baylor how he feels about Donald Sterling.

NumberSix
05-01-2014, 09:00 AM
Ask Elgin Baylor how he feels about Donald Sterling.
Ask Donald Sterling how he feels about Elgin Baylor.

Calabis
05-01-2014, 09:38 AM
Sterling is a racist, but it never affected his business decisions in the NBA. You don't see an all white NBA team. If u don't like him, don't pay him. Simple. Don't buy his products, don't go to his games. If u are hurt, get over it. There are plenty of racists in this world. Unfortunately he has a skank girlfriend.

:facepalm

Jeez what part of a private institution dont you understand. He doesn't have a right to be in the league, its a membership....if the other owners dont want him, then bye its simple as that.

Dont go to his games? What games will he have when no other teams play his franchise?

Collie
05-01-2014, 09:39 AM
Naw. Even if he wasn't a racist, he's an extremely terrible individual in general that the NBA needed to get rid off. No sympathy for the guy. Hell, he'll still be a billionaire, so it's not like he's losing that much. The NBA wins more than Donald Sterling loses.

SilkkTheShocker
05-01-2014, 09:41 AM
Pretty funny to still see how many white people are pretending to be mad at the Sterling and this whole situation. :oldlol:

SilkkTheShocker
05-01-2014, 09:42 AM
Ask Donald Sterling how he feels about Elgin Baylor.

This. Are people aware that Sterling kept Baylor's employed for years?? Even with Baylor being an absolutely atrocious NBA GM.

MavsPoke
05-01-2014, 09:50 AM
Yeah this silly goofball is probably racist and all that...

But don't some part of you want him to win somewhat...win and win BIG. 80 years old billionaire underdog just decimates his opponents ganging up on him. What an inspiring story! Give a big F U to all these disgusting political correctness nowadays.

I'm sure there are some hipster-anti-anything-popular-because-I'm-a-special-snowflake-and-have-to-go-against-the-grain-because-that-is-what-defines-me-moron will say he supports him.

MostHated305
05-01-2014, 09:56 AM
Not surprisingly, the same folks backing sterling are zimmerman fanboys.

go figure!

keep-itreal
05-01-2014, 09:58 AM
Not surprisingly, the same folks backing sterling are zimmerman fanboys.

go figure!

Zimmerman was self-defense. Is self-defense a crime???:rolleyes:

HurricaneKid
05-01-2014, 10:02 AM
Sterling is a racist, but it never affected his business decisions in the NBA. You don't see an all white NBA team. If u don't like him, don't pay him. Simple. Don't buy his products, don't go to his games. If u are hurt, get over it. There are plenty of racists in this world. Unfortunately he has a skank girlfriend.

He has been sued for discrimination NINE times as owner of the Clippers. How in the world is that not affecting not only his business but the league's business?

And people HAVEN'T been buying his products, going to his games, etc. But the success of the rest of the league has transformed his 12M investment into a 1B+ asset. His awful ownership (hiring a gold digger lady toy to be Asst GM for the Clippers, having the worst winning percentage of the four major sports during his tenure, telling his HoF coach to wrap the players' ankles because he is too cheap to pay trainers, asking prospective coaches why they think they can coach "these N*****s", etc) has a significant role.

He isn't being shoved out of the league because of these comments. He is being shoved out of the league because these comments shed a light on his shocking history. Its why there is literally NO ONE in his corner. When he bought the team the NBA Finals weren't televised live. He has contributed almost nothing to the league during his tenure. He should be thankful for his good fortune that he will get to see the team for 1B+.

MostHated305
05-01-2014, 10:06 AM
Zimmerman was self-defense. Is self-defense a crime???:rolleyes:


I'm just pointing out that closet racist gonna be closet racist.

Jailblazers7
05-01-2014, 10:10 AM
[QUOTE]When Kim Hughes, then an assistant coach for the Los Angeles Clippers, was found to have prostate cancer on the eve of training camp in 2004, he learned what it was like to work in Donald Sterling

MostHated305
05-01-2014, 10:15 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/28/sports/basketball/clippers-owner-donald-sterling-has-public-record-of-bad-behavior.html



http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jun/10/sports/la-sp-clippers-dunleavy-20110611

^The guys just straight up fired Dunleavy and refused to honor a guaranteed contract plus money that he had already earned. :oldlol:

Good ****ing riddance to that guy. Worst owner in pro sports for decades and just an unethical human being in general.


And yet there are clowns here defending his "privacy rights"

FRRRUUUUCK Outta here!!!!

HurricaneKid
05-01-2014, 10:18 AM
Heck, Elgin Baylor was a longtime GM of his and he can easily pull up the records of all the minorities he has hired. My point? He has done nothing wrong by being a racist.


This reads like an Onion article. Elgin Baylor SUED Donald Sterling for discrimination.


It is morally wrong but no laws were broken for him to lose his franchise.

The other point, he may or may not lose his team but one thing is for certain, he will win if this goes to court. No contract from any league can supersede federal law in regards to franchise property ownership. You cannot get kicked out of a partnership or entity if you have shares in them. In this instance, those millions of dollars that Sterling put into his company, Clippers.

I hate Sterling and that crappy team of his but lets not public dictate the laws of this country. Everything you say or do in the privacy of your own home is now grounds for punitive action if there is enough public reaction.

Just like ISH.....Do you really want the ISH public to start influencing who gets banned because we don't agree with them? Or if someone post your PM's on the forums and you get banned for talking about someone in private?

You have no basic concept of the laws to which you keep referring. This is simple contract law. He doesn't have to break any laws to be separated from the Clippers. If you think all speech is protected all the time go walk up to your boss and tell him he is a "******* *** ***** ***** ****" and see what happens. Just like Sterling, you are likely to find yourself without a job.

Q: Sterling is notoriously litigious. Can he go to court to stop Silver from punishing him?
A: Not effectively. When Silver issues his punishment to Sterling, the decision is final. The constitution provides in Paragraph 24(m) that a commissioner's decision shall be "final, binding, and conclusive" and shall be as final as an award of arbitration. It is almost impossible to find a judge in the United States judicial system who would set aside an award of arbitration. Sterling can file a lawsuit, but he would face a humiliating defeat early in the process. There is no antitrust theory or principle that would help him against Silver and the NBA. He could claim an antitrust violation, for example, if he were trying to move his team to a different market. But under the terms of the NBA constitution, he has no chance to succeed in litigation over punishment.
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...onald-sterling

dude77
05-01-2014, 10:27 AM
Not surprisingly, the same folks backing sterling are zimmerman fanboys.

go figure!


dey don agree wit me raciss !!

Calabis
05-01-2014, 10:52 AM
This. Are people aware that Sterling kept Baylor's employed for years?? Even with Baylor being an absolutely atrocious NBA GM.

Oh shit look Silk is the "hey I got a black employee, I can't be racist!" Syndrome.:lol

Calabis
05-01-2014, 10:55 AM
This reads like an Onion article. Elgin Baylor SUED Donald Sterling for discrimination.



You have no basic concept of the laws to which you keep referring. This is simple contract law. He doesn't have to break any laws to be separated from the Clippers. If you think all speech is protected all the time go walk up to your boss and tell him he is a "******* *** ***** ***** ****" and see what happens. Just like Sterling, you are likely to find yourself without a job.

Q: Sterling is notoriously litigious. Can he go to court to stop Silver from punishing him?
A: Not effectively. When Silver issues his punishment to Sterling, the decision is final. The constitution provides in Paragraph 24(m) that a commissioner's decision shall be "final, binding, and conclusive" and shall be as final as an award of arbitration. It is almost impossible to find a judge in the United States judicial system who would set aside an award of arbitration. Sterling can file a lawsuit, but he would face a humiliating defeat early in the process. There is no antitrust theory or principle that would help him against Silver and the NBA. He could claim an antitrust violation, for example, if he were trying to move his team to a different market. But under the terms of the NBA constitution, he has no chance to succeed in litigation over punishment.
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...onald-sterling

But what about freedom of speech and privacy rights though:roll:

SacJB Shady
05-01-2014, 11:09 AM
Not surprisingly, the same folks backing sterling are zimmerman fanboys.

go figure!


Not surprisingly Zimmerman was exonerated.

NumberSix
05-01-2014, 11:16 AM
Not surprisingly, the same folks backing sterling are zimmerman fanboys.

go figure!
Zimmerman = Hispanic Jew
Sterling = White Jew



What exactly are you insinuating? We're all Jewish supremacists? :confusedshrug:

MostHated305
05-01-2014, 11:24 AM
Zimmerman = Hispanic Jew
Sterling = White Jew



What exactly are you insinuating? We're all Jewish supremacists? :confusedshrug:

GZ = scumbag woman beater, racial profiler
Sterling = scumbag slum lord, racist


I'm insinuating that who you support says a lot about you.

NumberSix
05-01-2014, 11:30 AM
GZ = scumbag woman beater, racial profiler
Sterling = scumbag slum lord, racist


I'm insinuating that who you support says a lot about you.
I don't support either of them. They could both die today for all I care. I'm not exaggerating when I say that. I support PRINCIPLES!!!

Zimmerman = You don't convict a person when you simply don't know what happened.

Sterling = I'm against punishing free speech. I'm about 1,000,000 times more against punishing private speech.



What I care about is not bending over for an angry mob.

Fiasco
05-01-2014, 11:34 AM
But what about freedom of speech and privacy rights though:roll:

The privacy concern is valid but for the former remark...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmagJDxCAAAsmDP.png:large

Funnyfuka
05-01-2014, 11:35 AM
what he said was the truth and the truth is dangerous to business, you have to be an hypocrite to survive. Still i doubt he cares, he s still a billionaire and will still bang mixed whores as much as he wants. Somehow hearing the truth once in a while is refreshing i thank him for that. You can be sure all the nba execs think the same . It s a business and when you endanger the business you are a danger. You really think adam silver loves black people and the ghetto rapper culture lol. Plz. Money.

Jailblazers7
05-01-2014, 11:36 AM
I don't support either of them. They could both die today for all I care. I'm not exaggerating when I say that. I support PRINCIPLES!!!

Zimmerman = You don't convict a person when you simply don't know what happened.

Sterling = I'm against punishing free speech. I'm about 1,000,000 times more against punishing private speech.



What I care about is not bending over for an angry mob.

People lose their jobs over free speech all of the time. If it is within the NBA's bylaws and other legal agreements to remove Sterling from ownership, then tough shit. Sterling's real legal beef here is probably with that woman, not the NBA. It might be well within the legal framework of the NBA to do everything that it is doing.

Anyway, Sterling is a notorious tightwad. Not sure why he would want to own a team with which he has no decision making power. What happens when they bring in a GM who is willing to go into the luxury tax? It is a really weird legal scenario if Sterling remains the owner but not a decision maker.

MostHated305
05-01-2014, 11:36 AM
I don't support either of them. They could both die today for all I care. I'm not exaggerating when I say that. I support PRINCIPLES!!!

Zimmerman = You don't convict a person when you simply don't know what happened.

Sterling = I'm against punishing free speech. I'm about 1,000,000 times more against punishing private speech.



What I care about is not bending over for an angry mob.


Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences. Sterling still has the freedom to say whatever he wants.

Private speech when made public isn't private anymore. ( ask mitt romney about the 47%)

What did you expcet to happen after sterling's racist rant was exposed? Business as usual? Get real. What you say and do makes people react to your benefit or downfall. He got eveything he deserved.

Calabis
05-01-2014, 11:42 AM
The privacy concern is valid but for the former remark...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmagJDxCAAAsmDP.png:large

The privacy issue may be tossed with rumors stating he allowed her to record him and there are a ton more recordings. When I heard the tape I felt he was led into a lot of the race issues...but how dumb can u be, if u have a history of discrimination then maybe, just maybe u should watch what u say to people u dont know very well...especially when the success of ur franchise depends on the same race u dont really like.

NumberSix
05-01-2014, 11:44 AM
People lose their jobs over free speech all of the time. If it is within the NBA's bylaws and other legal agreements to remove Sterling from ownership, then tough shit.
I didn't say the NBA CAN'T punish his free speech. I said I'M against them punishing it.

Just as the NBA CAN choose not to punish him, others are against that.

NumberSix
05-01-2014, 11:47 AM
The privacy issue may be tossed with rumors stating he allowed her to record him and there are a ton more recordings. When I heard the tape I felt he was led into a lot of the race issues...but how dumb can u be, if u have a history of discrimination then maybe, just maybe u should watch what u say to people u dont know very well...especially when the success of ur franchise depends on the same race u dont really like.
That has nothing to do with nothing.


She CLAIMS he gave her permission to record him for the purpose of a memoir he was working on. Just because he allegedly permitted her to record him doesn't mean she allowed to just give away the recordings.

Jailblazers7
05-01-2014, 12:00 PM
I didn't say the NBA CAN'T punish his free speech. I said I'M against them punishing it.

Just as the NBA CAN choose not to punish him, others are against that.

Alright, that's a fair stance. However, speech and actions have consequences even if you don't agree with them. I'd be nervous about the precedent if I were an NBA owner but this one is really on Sterling for giving consent to this woman to record his conversations and then speak so openly.

tmacattack33
05-01-2014, 12:10 PM
No, i don't root for him at all.

I do however want ppl to calm down over comments and people's personal opinions.