racism in sports is unacceptable

[KeylessEntry]

I applaud all of the work done by the social justice warriors in the past week to eradicate racism in sports. How unbelievably offensive and despicable, an NBA owner who made racist comments about black people. The banning of donald sterling is a huge victory against racism. I am very happy that the sports world refuses to tolerate racism.


http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm190/kaloykalokoy/washington-redskins-background-1.jpg

http://content.sportslogos.net/logos/53/57/full/741.gif

[Dresta]

racist

[Verticality]

I wonder if Silver's actions will put pressure on the NFL and the MLB to change those names/logos.

[Bandito]

Can somebody explain to me the story behind the racism behind those logos?

[Akrazotile]

Tbh, the NFL should just force Daniel Snyder to sell his franchise to a black guy. That way nothing they do can be racist.

[blablabla]

In what parts of life is racism acceptable OP?

[Cactus-Sack]

In what parts of life is racism acceptable OP?

Airport security?

[Akrazotile]

In what parts of life is racism acceptable OP?


Whenever its not against black people.

See: Mayweathers rant against Pacquiao. How the hell does he still have sponsors????


Because racism is only "wrong" if the violating party is white .

[KeylessEntry]

Can somebody explain to me the story behind the racism behind those logos?

the story is that nobody gives a fvck about native americans. the equivalent of the redskins or indians would be if the LA clippers were renamed the LA n*****s and their logo was an old blackface cartoon.

http://black-face.com/images/blackface-logo-small.jpg

[The Iron Sheik]

Whenever its not against black people.

See: Mayweathers rant against Pacquiao. How the hell does he still have sponsors????


Because racism is only "wrong" if the violating party is white .

or it's because white people don't care when blacks say mean things about them because blacks aren't in a position of power for those views to have a significant impact on the white population in america as a whole. the white people who do get "upset" at it do it just to try and be argumentative for a point that's not really relevant.

it's why white people don't really get offended at people calling them "crackers" or "honkys" or "peckerwoods". there's no history or opportunity behind it.

[KyleKong]

This is America, sense when has Native Americans ever not been ****ed?

Very sad but very true.

[KeylessEntry]

:cry:

grow up

my bad, i forgot that grown ups are not supposed to be offended by the fact there is a sports team literally called the fvckin "redskins".

[Cactus-Sack]

I'mma buy the T-Wolves. Gonna rename them the Whiteskins, then maybe people will shut the fvck up.

[KeylessEntry]

they should have things that actually matter to care about

how do people get through life being this easily offended. Seems hard

yeah ok. racism toward blacks and the statements made by sterling "actually matter", but you have to be some kind of easily offended ninny if you give a fvck about racism toward native americans, lol

[Cactus-Sack]

http://iamjohnnyboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Obama-Black-Tie.jpg

It's the white half of him that's potus.

[The Iron Sheik]

http://iamjohnnyboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Obama-Black-Tie.jpg

yes, so powerful he hasn't even been able to get all of the policies he's wanted implemented in 6 years because of resistance from a few dozen individuals lol

post a picture of the dozens of white people he works with and in some situations adheres to.

[Cactus-Sack]

yes, so powerful he hasn't even been able to get all of the policies he's wanted implemented in 6 years because of resistance from a few dozen individuals lol

post a picture of the dozens of white people he works with and in some situations adheres to.



Ugh, that's why he's president and not "Chief-General-Admiral-King Obama" you dumb fvck.

[The Iron Sheik]

So now the white man is to blame cos Obamas a crap president. Preach!

my post wasn't meant to be related to the quality of his presidency at all lol. it was merely countering your attempted refute of my point that black people collectively aren't in a position of power to affect white people as a whole by posting a picture of obama.

[The Iron Sheik]

Ugh, that's why he's president and not "Chief-General-Admiral-King Obama" you dumb fvck.

? when did i infer anything else? it just further illustrates my original point. black people aren't in a position to collectively and systematically subjugate white people, and never have been. doesn't matter how that fact is expressed. it's still true.

[ace23]

yeah ok. racism toward blacks and the statements made by sterling "actually matter", but you have to be some kind of easily offended ninny if you give a fvck about racism toward native americans, lol
Macho Man is white. Carry on.

[Cactus-Sack]

? when did i infer anything else? it just further illustrates my original point. black people aren't in a position to collectively and systematically subjugate white people, and never have been. doesn't matter how that fact is expressed. it's still true.

You dumb fvcking ignorant fvck. You aiin't heard of the Moors? They're the reason why Italians and Spaniad are darker than Frenchies, because the enlaved and rape the fvck out of them



Ignorant fvcko.

[The Iron Sheik]

You dumb fvcking ignorant fvck. You aiin't heard of the Moors? They're the reason why Italians and Spaniad are darker than Frenchies, because the enlaved and rape the fvck out of them



Ignorant fvcko.

my bad. in america*

and othello got killed over a white girl. he was powerless.

[ROCSteady]

LOL if the OP thinks the Redskins will change their name at this whim becuz of Sterling. If it ever changes, won't be for many many years.

Also LOL if OP thinks the Redskins should change their name jus becuz a few media f@ggots think it trendy to be offended by it.

Look into how many Native Americans actually support the name and the overwhelming percentage that don't want it to change and also the number of high schools in Native American regions that are named the Redskins.

It's a complicated issue with many arguing points and anybody that thinks its simple or cut and dry is a shallow, PC trend hopper.

[dude77]

the story is that nobody gives a fvck about native americans. the equivalent of the redskins or indians would be if the LA clippers were renamed the LA n*****s and their logo was an old blackface cartoon.

http://black-face.com/images/blackface-logo-small.jpg


:oldlol:

[~primetime~]

LOL if the OP thinks the Redskins will change their name at this whim becuz of Sterling. If it ever changes, won't be for many many years.

Also LOL if OP thinks the Redskins should change their name jus becuz a few media f@ggots think it trendy to be offended by it.

Look into how many Native Americans actually support the name and the overwhelming percentage that don't want it to change and also the number of high schools in Native American regions that are named the Redskins.

It's a complicated issue with many arguing points and anybody that thinks its simple or cut and dry is a shallow, PC trend hopper.
I remember reading something on that, iirc it was like like an even 50/50 split. There is a large segment of Native Americans that are proud of the name and logo, and there are also those that are offended.

And I remember reading that every year it is overly PC white people, not actual Native Americans, that continue to bring this up and fuss about it to no end. Somehow the name offends white people more than anyone else.

[ROCSteady]

Yup, it's mainly the white guilt, oversensitive pseudo intellectuals who like to get on their high horse and feign moral superiority that keep re kindling the outrage, media is so strong.

That's not to say that there aren't Natives who are offended by the term and want them to change but its not even a split from the polls Ive seen. Most actual Natives in polls Ive seen don't feel outraged by the name.

What have the sports media members done to better the quality of life for a group historically marginalized and poverty stricken? Most likely zero but bitch about a football name.

Meanwhile, Dan Snyder and the Redskins organization have done a lot to reach out and not only donate large sums of money to those communities but taken time to visit and get a better understanding of the culture

[KingBeasley08]

I've already accepted that in a few years, some PC people in power are gonna force the Skins to change their name. Just a matter of time

[ROCSteady]

money still talks in this country. Goodell doesn't even want the Skins to Change their name. Too much revenue, a top grosser with the already established brand.

Maybe the forced change will come, I expect it will one day but not anytime soon. In the meanwhile, just b!tching and fake outrage to garner controversy and the facade that certain educated ppls care about this country's natives.

[~primetime~]

I think it will change eventually too, not sure when though, Didn't the Supreme Court shoot that down recently?

might be like 20 years from now until the name change finally happens...it's a complex situation with all sorts of money tied into all sorts of different deals, but it has happened before with Bullets - Wizards

[ROCSteady]

Well in that case, the owner (Abe Pollin) was willing to change the name. Snyder has been a Skins fan since he was a boy. The name means too much to him sentimentally and financially with his pockets.

[ROCSteady]

Lol I really wish they were called the Bullets instead of the Wizards even though Dumbledore is dope and the Harry Potter ride at Universal is awesome as shit

[Verticality]

they should have things that actually matter to care about

how do people get through life being this easily offended. Seems hard

So because there are more important issues, we should turn our backs on smaller issues? If that were the case, we literally should only focus on 1 thing at a time in our lives.

[Verticality]

good reading comprehension bruh

What is off about how I read your post? You are saying that people should have more important things to be concerned about than racist sports logos, correct? If I am incorrect, please clarify what you meant.

[Cactus-Sack]

What is off about how I read your post? You are saying that people should have more important things to be concerned about than racist sports logos, correct? If I am incorrect, please clarify what you meant.

:facepalm

No, he's saying that Donald Sterling being racist is completely and utterly unimportant. Which it is.

[Verticality]

You're saying a completely different thing from your first post tw*t

I wasn't re-stating what I said, tw*t. You are the one with shitty reading comprehension apparently.

[Verticality]

:facepalm

No, he's saying that Donald Sterling being racist is completely and utterly unimportant. Which it is.

He was saying it is unimportant in comparison to greater issues. My point was that just because there are greater issues doesn't mean we should ignore smaller issues.

[longtime lurker]

yeah ok. racism toward blacks and the statements made by sterling "actually matter", but you have to be some kind of easily offended ninny if you give a fvck about racism toward native americans, lol

WTF are you talking about? There has been plenty of criticism towards the Redskins name and changing it.

[Verticality]

In your first post you said that I was saying we should only focus on 1 thing at a time

which is a really fvking stupid way to interpret what I said

then your 2nd post you said something fairly reasonable

That wasn't what I was saying you were saying. I was saying you might as well say that if you are going to criticize people for caring about one thing when there are more important things to care about.

People can care about more than 1 thing at once, so why criticize somebody for caring about the Sterling thing as if they aren't also concerning themselves with more important matters as well.

[Verticality]

I think people who get worked up over nothing to be annoying tw*ts is all

I don't think it is nothing, but I do agree there are bigger things to be worked up about. The housing development stuff from Sterling has more impact on actual lives than his segregation views and therefore should have had more outrage before.

[Verticality]

I think for some it is easy to get worked up about this issue because everybody agrees with them and they don't have to do anything about it other than disagree. Bigger issues require action, and people don't want to invest much in ridding of those bigger issues.

[RedBlackAttack]

http://content.sportslogos.net/logos/53/57/full/741.gif
If you've noticed, Chief Wahoo has been slowly phased out in the last several years. The Indians now use a block 'C' as their primary logo.

http://www.clevescene.com/binary/5080/1389199580-blocccc.jpg

And also this...

http://content.sportslogos.net/logos/53/57/full/wi3ltaymek6sgbb6bskx869qk.gif


http://www.rantsports.com/mlb/files/2014/02/DannySalazar.jpg


The Indians aren't fighting the trend in the way that Daniel Snyder with the Redskins is. Although, Chief Wahoo is still the technically the team's "secondary logo," which I'd like to see changed as well, even though you don't see him around much anymore.

http://content.sportslogos.net/news/2014/01/Cleveland-Indians-Primary-Secondary-Swap-2014.jpg

[RedBlackAttack]

The redskins thing is just silly to me

like there are really people who are so bothered by this that they actually take action to change it. Like reaaaally? Go get some pvssy or something
You could apply that laissez faire attitude to virtually any issue involving race. Yes, both the Redskins and Indians logs are/were offensive, as is the name "Redskins." It wouldn't fly for any other racial or ethnic groups. Why should it for Native Americans?

[mr.big35]

If you've noticed, Chief Wahoo has been slowly phased out in the last several years. The Indians now use a block 'C' as their primary logo.

http://www.clevescene.com/binary/5080/1389199580-blocccc.jpg

And also this...

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRwsAd3J9dA8GUAY9jhTwdeW0vd64WTO djUyYFJwCCiy7lpSQfn


http://www.rantsports.com/mlb/files/2014/02/DannySalazar.jpg


The Indians aren't fighting the trend in the way that Daniel Snyder with the Redskins is. Although, Chief Wahoo is still the technically the team's "secondary logo," which I'd like to see changed as well, even though you don't see him around much anymore.

http://content.sportslogos.net/news/2014/01/Cleveland-Indians-Primary-Secondary-Swap-2014.jpg

off topic but all mlb should have block letters for their logos on their hat

[KingBeasley08]

The redskins thing is just silly to me

like there are really people who are so bothered by this that they actually take action to change it. Like reaaaally? Go get some pvssy or something
:applause:

[Akrazotile]

If you've noticed, Chief Wahoo has been slowly phased out in the last several years. The Indians now use a block 'C' as their primary logo.



That's the mascots name???


:roll:

[~primetime~]

Chief Wahoo is offensive because his skin is red?... Smh

Omgz it looks similar to old cartoons of black people, get it out of here!

[Rasheed1]

Instead Red Skin?? Make his skin yellow… matter of fact?? make him a jew..

use Jews as your your mascot, put a big nose on him and lets see how long it takes for people to correct that ...

[~primetime~]

I'm offended by the Celtics mascot... Skin too white

Vikings too, and Fighting Irish... Not all white people like to fight

Cowboys mascot is offensive... White people don't tote guns anymore, actually yes we do that mascot is spot on.

[ROCSteady]

You could apply that laissez faire attitude to virtually any issue involving race. Yes, both the Redskins and Indians logs are/were offensive, as is the name "Redskins." It wouldn't fly for any other racial or ethnic groups. Why should it for Native Americans?

I think the Redskins logo is pretty Nobel and stoic looking. I can't even see why anybody would be offended by it, it's not a caricature like CLE logo, even if the nose is rather accentuated. I always thought Redskins logo was a proud and honorable depiction of a native from centuries past.

The name thing is a lot more understandable but ppl need to consider things like intent and context before they go crying to Supreme Court. Sure it's an archaic term that was used to insult at times but why would an organization choose to name themselves something after a group they felt inferior or of a lesser merit?


Does that make any sense to almost insult yourselves in the process as an organization if indeed anybody involved with the Redskins thought the group to represent the team was of a lower class or concern.

[~primetime~]

http://www.collegeflagsandbanners.com/images_products/app_state_yosef_mascot_flag_73590sma.jpg

http://blueridgeblog.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/11/26/yosef2.jpg

http://pictures.replayphotos.com/images/APS/smd/appalachian-state-university-football-automatically-imported-ncaa-football-oct-05-appalachian-state-at-citadel-aps-f-auto-00229smd.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9ikW9SY7yeE/Rv5hPjjzobI/AAAAAAAACb4/Af6suQ9gfHw/s400/Yosef.jpg


Appalachian State mascot "Yosef" is an angry jew

[D-FENS]

Native Americans are proud warrior savages. Jews aren't an intimidating mascot. Has a jew ever even played football?

dumb:facepalm

http://i.imgur.com/XqwTrEc.png

[ROCSteady]

Snyder be kissin Native babies on reservations lately like Bush kissed black babies in 2000.

[Budadiiii]

If someone wants to be racist then they can be racist. They have the freedom and the right.

I choose to be racist but I also choose not to break the law or act on my impulses to hurt certain races. If I want to be involved in sports then I have the ****ing right. I am not breaking any rules.

Benjamin Franklin's ashes are rolling over in his urn

[ROCSteady]

Nobody involved with the Redskins brass is a notable racist, the name just means a lot to many people for different reasons but all those reasons (sentimental, economical, brand recognition) matter intensely to Daniel Snyder.

He's not some guy who just bought a pro sports team, that is his squad invested emotionally since he was a boy.

Of course he would be an owner least likely to change something that goes to the heart, business issues aside

[KingBeasley08]

If someone wants to be racist then they can be racist. They have the freedom and the right.

I choose to be racist but I also choose not to break the law or act on my impulses to hurt certain races. If I want to be involved in sports then I have the ****ing right. I am not breaking any rules.

Benjamin Franklin's ashes are rolling over in his urn
Yea you have the right to be racist but when you're involved in a business, you have to be ready for the consequences. Freedom of speech only protects you from the government

[senelcoolidge]

Jay Z should be banned for wearing his dumb necklace. There should be no double standards.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/30/tyrrell-up-from-racism/

[KeylessEntry]

here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR-tbOxlhvE) is a great anti-redskins advert that has been playing during the nba finals

[longtime lurker]

here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR-tbOxlhvE) is a great anti-redskins advert that has been playing during the nba finals

That's some strong ether to the Redskins :oldlol:

[Akrazotile]

We also need to BOYCOTT the movie 22 Jump Street, in which the word 'gringo' is derisively used referring to a white guy.


For those that don't know, gringo is a word in the hispanic nomenclature referring to white people, often used mockingly and with very derogatory connotations.

It's unacceptable that a movie film in the U S and A, most politically correct nation in the world, should use that term.


BOYCOTT 22 JUMP STREET


http://aweebitirish.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/borat-thumbs-up.jpg


Boycott this book too!

http://cache0.bdcdn.net/assets/images/book/medium/9781/8495/9781849530637.jpg


It's time to stop using the 'g word' in reference to caucasian americans. It's offensive and hurtful, and people who use it need to be banned for life, forced to sell their property, and fined 2.5 million dollars.

Period.


Also, this woman should be summarily shot in the street and kicked over a bridge:

http://www.bant-shirts.com/images/photos/relax-gringo-450.jpg



Remember, we are living in the super advanced and intellectual 21st century. EVERYONE HAS TO BE OFFENDED AT ALL TIMES. Thanks for reminding us about it OP. You're a credit to f@ggots everywhere.

[KeylessEntry]

hey idiot, remember when you posted this wall of text a few weeks ago?

Anyway, just wanted to take this opportunity to announce my retirement from insidehoops.com.

A wise man once said: "I'm pretty sure there's more to life than just arguing with people on the internet, and being really, really, ridiculously good looking."

I've been thinking about those words a lot lately. As many of you know, I'm almost 30. And the time draws nearer for me to go marching across that milestone, and when I do... I want to be better. Better than I was in my 20s. Better looking, better in bed, and even a better person I guess too. To sort of coin a phrase of my own here: "I'm starting with the man in the mirror. "


When I look at these silly internet flame wars I keep allowing myself to get pulled into with people I don't even know... Well, it just makes my dear heart blister. Sure it's all well and good when you're a young lad, still trying to figure things out, exploring the possibilities of interaction on this new fangled internet machine. But eventually there comes a time to act! And that time, is nigh.

Now, when I say "retirement" I mean a couple things, because I'll still post here occasionally. But firstly, I'm retiring from the bickering. No more personal attacks or getting wound up over stupid opinions that I can't change no matter how many walls of deliciously coherent points and counterpoints I produce. It's not worth the time nor the effort, nor the sacrifice in dignity. The same old debates go around like a carousel and eventually devolve into a deranged carnival of horrors and ritual sacrifice.

I'm sure this admission of my unwillingness to fight back going forward will put the "army of gimmicks" on the offensive to call me a shoe salesman and a daddy dependent. That's really quite fine, the insults have never bothered me. What bothers me, lately in particular, is the amount of time wasted on a website going back and forth with strangers about who has what kind of life. When we do that, my brothers and sisters, we all lose. And I don't know about you, but I would rather be hashtag winning. Hashtag, a better way. Hashtag, We Are One. Hashtag, Never Forget.

So no more derisive, abrasive, invective perspective. I may drop an opinion here and there in social/political topics, but it will probably be infrequent, and I won't continuously debate the issue within the thread. I still have a passion for debate and Socratic questioning, but this simply isn't the place to direct those energies. Because I genuinely do want to make a difference in the greater world around me, and have a lasting impact on our society. It's been useful doing some cerebral stretching and mental reps here on this board over the years, but I feel like I'm just doing laps on the track now and need a new approach to start turning mind into matter.

Also, I have no ill will (ill will records baby, queensbridge, holla at ya boy, shout out my homies upstate, ill will rest in peace) toward anyone here. Bygones are gone by as far as I'm concerned, even if you'd still rather see me castrated in broad daylight on a crowded city street. Deucewallaces, I love you man. I'd literally pick dingleberries out your asshole with my pinky finger if you asked me to as a personal favor. kentatm? I hope life treats you kindly and with great fortune. rose city? i respect you as a humanoid and look upon you with neighborly affection. jeff? i'm sorry for calling you a jew. Over, and over, and over, and over. gobb? I take back everything, man. You're not 40, and you don't live in your moms basement. You're young and spry, and you live in my heart. rasheed1? You're welcome at my basketball games any time Everyone else? Well, I think you get the pitcher.


Anyway, best wishes to everyone. I genuinely hope you all get the chance to wake up each day and have the excitement of new possibilities bring a look to your face similar to this one:

As far as me? Well, I've got work to do. It's time for me to go get ready to be 30.


i thought you had work to do? your boyfriends cawk is not going to suck itself

[Akrazotile]

hey idiot, remember when you posted this wall of text a few weeks ago?


i thought you had work to do? your boyfriends cawk is not going to suck itself


I put off retirement until the end of the finals because this is the best time of the basketball year and I like to post during it. So I have to get all my OTC shots in now. Hopefully this baby goes 7.



Also: u mad

[ROCSteady]

Lol OP buying in full sheep mode from this oversaturated media agenda

This dude is trying to white knight the indigenous ppls of our land.

They are beautiful people I might add. Segregated, nature oriented people that happen to be povern stricken, depression ridden group with rampant substance abuse issues.

But the pressing issue is a pro sports team nickname from 1932

[ROCSteady]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_11AySJoaqPk/S6PIFgFhMyI/AAAAAAAAAhg/WT2AsWETfgU/s1600/Redskins.jpg

This Native American community is obviously very offended by the moniker of Redskins. They are outraged by this archaic racist term

[KeylessEntry]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_11AySJoaqPk/S6PIFgFhMyI/AAAAAAAAAhg/WT2AsWETfgU/s1600/Redskins.jpg

This Native American community is obviously very offended by the moniker of Redskins. They are outraged by this archaic racist term

so what? obviously there are many native americans who do not like the name... the ones who paid for this commercial for example - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR-tbOxlhvE

[KeylessEntry]

boo hoo for them

sensitive fgts

well said, "boo hoo for them" pretty much sums up 400+ years of white - native relations

and yeah, the only person who would have a problem with obvious racism is an oversensitive fgt

[Cactus-Sack]

I don't like the name "LeBron," it's insensitive to NBA fans. NBA fans have long been oppressed by the favourable treatment of LeBron by referees, and I demand that we stop offending them.

[KeylessEntry]

letting a word bother you is very sensitive


since its just a word, black people would be overly sensitive to get bent out of shape over a sports team called the something like "detroit n*ggers"? you are saying black people shouldnt care about that?

[KeylessEntry]

it's context dummy

no its not, you fvcking idiot.

if you think people are overly sensitive for being bothered by the term redskin for a sports team, you obviously should also think people are overly sensitive for being bothered by the term n*gger for a sports team.

[Cactus-Sack]

no its not, you fvcking idiot.

if you think people are overly sensitive for being bothered by the term redskin for a sports team, you obviously should also think people are overly sensitive for being bothered by the term n*gger for a sports team.

The difference is, "N*gger" is universally accepted as hate-speech. "Redskin" is seen by most Indians as a term of endearment you dumb, white-guilt having, ivory tower living, fvck.

[KeylessEntry]

The difference is, "N*gger" is universally accepted as hate-speech. "Redskin" is seen by most Indians as a term of endearment you dumb, white-guilt having, ivory tower living, fvck.

no, thats just 100% false.

[Cactus-Sack]

Some of you motherfvka's are so superstitious. "Ooooooh, if an Indian hears the word "Redskin" he'll immediately become sad and feel oppressed...." Do you sit there saying "wingardium leviosa" expecting a feather to float too?

[Cactus-Sack]

no, thats just 100% false.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_11AySJoaqPk/S6PIFgFhMyI/AAAAAAAAAhg/WT2AsWETfgU/s1600/Redskins.jpg

Dumb fvck

[KeylessEntry]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_11AySJoaqPk/S6PIFgFhMyI/AAAAAAAAAhg/WT2AsWETfgU/s1600/Redskins.jpg

Dumb fvck

the fact that one native american school uses the term redskin for their sports team does not mean jack diddly shit, and certainly does not make redskin a term of endearment.

[NuggetsFan]

I can't think of anything more overly sensitive than getting offended by a word

Can't think of anything more overly sensitive than somebody getting offended over somebody else getting offended by a word :confusedshrug:

Anyways it's pretty simple. Indians are still fcked. Nobody really cares what happened to them, atleast in the same sense we do with black people. 50 years ago you probably could have had a sports team called the N*ggers. Today you can't. It offends far more people than "Redskins". Maybe 30 years from now Indians get there dues, probably not tho :lol

It's wrong but it's easy to understand why it is.

[KeylessEntry]

For the record, I dont care what the redskins name their team.

I am just trying to point out an obvious double standard to you dense motherfckers. My point is that nobody gives a fck about racism when it is directed toward natives (this thread contains plenty of proof of that), but say something about black people and suddenly you are black listed for life from the NBA.

[NuggetsFan]

I'm not offended tho

I was kidding but does seem like your concerned that others find certain words offensive. I mean redskin doesn't bother me, don't really care if somebody else finds it offensive tho.

[Cactus-Sack]

I only get this because some bitch I was talking to yesterday talked about it. gay ngga


:whatever:

[Akrazotile]

since its just a word, black people would be overly sensitive to get bent out of shape over a sports team called the something like "detroit n*ggers"? you are saying black people shouldnt care about that?


The MAIN reason black sports teams don't have names like that is because it would obviously be of economic detriment to the team itself. Same reason the NBA only got upset at Sterling when his racism caused a potential financial backlash. People still use the word 'midget' in the media even though little people are almost universally opposed. But they don't have enough numbers to force a change. The fact that you're going out of your way to defend a group that largely DOESNT care and you don't even BELONG to to the group says something about how much time you have on your hands, how desperate you are to feel meaningful, and what a pathetic, naive loser you are.


Injuns don't have an economic say as football fans, so they can either like the team if they want, or they can just go about their business.


Let me explain something to you, bro. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE OFFENDED ON BEHALF OF EVERYONE. This is America, you're not entitled to control everyone elses mind. Sometimes it just is what it is. You don't have to go loudly being a ****** about it. You're an an incredibly whiney, girly ****ing ******. Take your captain sensitive act somewhere else. All you are is annoying. Not cool, not progressive, not hip. Just annoying, and corny AF. We don't need you to be Sensitivity-4-Hire in this country. Ok? Your'e a clown.


You need a life. You're a dork. You don't understand how the world works and you're a fukking ******. Just shut up. You're trying way too hard to be cool and important. You're not. You are a fukcing dork. You're little "mr sensitive" act is clearly some forced attempt to carve an identity for yourself when you have none. You're not 'cool' because you get offended all the time. It doesn't make you smart, it doesn't make you important. Try something else, loser.

[Cactus-Sack]

For the record, I dont care what the redskins name their team.

I am just trying to point out an obvious double standard to you dense motherfckers. My point is that nobody gives a fck about racism when it is directed toward natives (this thread contains plenty of proof of that), but say something about black people and suddenly you are black listed for life from the NBA.

So you should post in the Sterling threads then and tell people to stop being so sensitive, instead of posting in here telling everyone the need to be more sensitive.

[KingBeasley08]

sensitive ass white people. First, they start feeling offended for Blacks and now Natives. Takin white guilt to another level :facepalm

and im black before people start saying I have some sort of "white privilege". didn't give a rat's ass about sterling and this is another non story

[KeylessEntry]

The MAIN reason black sports teams don't have names like that is because it would obviously be of economic detriment to the team itself. Same reason the NBA only got upset at Sterling when his racism caused a potential financial backlash.


Injuns don't have an economic say as football fans, so they can either like the team if they want, or they can just go about their business.


Let me explain something to you, bro. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE OFFENDED ON BEHALF OF EVERYONE.


You need a life. You're a dork. You don't understand how the world works and you're a fukking ******. Just shut up. You're trying way too hard to be cool and important. You're not. You are a fukcing dork. You're little "mr sensitive" act is clearly some forced attempt to carve an identity for yourself when you have none. You're not 'cool' because you get offended all the time. It doesn't make you smart, it doesn't make you important. Try something else, loser.

funny that your post contains so much venom aimed at me since we are basically making the exact same point - nobody cares about racism toward natives (for a variety of reasons, economics being a major one)

[KeylessEntry]

So you should post in the Sterling threads then and tell people to stop being so sensitive, instead of posting in here telling everyone the need to be more sensitive.

how about i post wherever i want? you are the one posting in a thread created by me, stupid c*unt. where exactly did i tell people they should be more sensitive?

[Akrazotile]

funny that your post contains so much venom aimed at me since we are basically making the exact same point - nobody cares about racism toward natives (for a variety of reasons, economics being a major one)


The only reason YOU care about it is for the personal satisfaction of feeling powerful enough to change something major. That's the 'internal economics' of it for you. It may not involve paper currency for you, but there's image equity at stake and that's what you're after.

If you deeply care SOOOO much about others, why aren't you in the peace corps? Or volunteering full time at a shelter and subsisting off donations while you focus on helping others?

You're an armchair 'sensitivity dictator' and you do it because that's how you make YOURSELF feel important. You're trying to FORCE other people to care about something they don't care about, most Injuns don't care about, but for some reason YOUR FAKKIT ASS supposedly cares about? No. You just want to see the establishment have to cater to the little guy because that makes you feel important. A fukcing football team named the Redskins bro, that's your big concern? Clown shit.

Hey, I bet you sure complained about the rich getting tax breaks and all that, right? How much money do YOU donate to the needy? Fukcing nothing. But you wanna sit in your chair and proclaim the big guy has to give more to the little guy. Look at you, Mr. Decider! That's all you're in it for. Not for real, meaningful progress because you have no idea what that is nor would you have the real chatzpuh to impact it if you did. You want to feel like you have some kind of control. You want to see those who DO have more control than you, large institutions like the church, the media, the corporations, republicans, etc. etc. bow to your will. So you PRETEND to be offended by things to try and make them crumble and cater to you.


And you try and disguise it as "ohhh, i just care so much about the little people..."


No, bro. If you did you'd be off in the 3rd world right now volunteering. You care about being a self-important f@ggot with a deluded sense of social importance. GTFO.


Liberals are people with no power, who pretend they hate power, simply as an angle to get more for themselves.

[Cactus-Sack]

how about i post wherever i want? you are the one posting in a thread created by me, stupid c*unt. where exactly did i tell people they should be more sensitive?


Every post in this thread. You are a goddamn white stereotype you know?

[KeylessEntry]

some of you fgts need to work on your reading comprehension


For the record, I dont care what the redskins name their team.

I am just trying to point out an obvious double standard to you dense motherfckers. My point is that nobody gives a fck about racism when it is directed toward natives (this thread contains plenty of proof of that), but say something about black people and suddenly you are black listed for life from the NBA.

re-read that post a few times

[NuggetsFan]

sensitive ass white people

I mean the one thing as white people we've shown is that we could probably be a little more sensitive. Atleast to the point where we don't try and own other races or kick them off are land :oldlol:

BTW the Sterling thing was everybody and the media. Hardly white guilt.

[Akrazotile]

Every post in this thread. You are a goddamn white stereotype you know?

:oldlol:


http://data1.whicdn.com/images/14463935/thumb.png

white people are so evil, theyve ruined the world!!!! think of the natives, you guys!!!! pleaseeee!!!!!! gawd this all george bushs faultt!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Akrazotile]

some of you fgts need to work on your reading comprehension



re-read that post a few times


There is no double standard. A team called the Washington N*ggers would still draw plenty of white fans quite honestly, but it would be a dumb business decision becuase you lose the entire black fanbase which has a tangible impact on revenue. Not to mention a competitive disadvantage because of player concerns.

The brand clearly is not losing any major market share with its current name, and thus is continues as it sees fit. There are no laws against this, nor should there be.


You need to stop being 12, and learn how the world works. The ONLY hypocrites, as you point out, are the oversensitive white people who need to be offended by everything, on behalf of everyone. Which is you.

You put yourself in checkmate, dork.

[ROCSteady]

so what? obviously there are many native americans who do not like the name... the ones who paid for this commercial for example - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR-tbOxlhvE

The majority aren't demanding a change. MAJORITY. That group who made the commercial don't represent the majority even if it is a heartfelt commercial.

Also, before you go trying to say one high school doesn't make any kind of point, there are many high schools in Native American regions that carry the mascot and moinker.

The bottomline is that those of Native American heritage offended and disturbed by an NFL team having the name are outnumbered by those who don't give a shit and have more crucial things to concern themselves over.

[ROCSteady]

For the record, I dont care what the redskins name their team.

I am just trying to point out an obvious double standard to you dense motherfckers. My point is that nobody gives a fck about racism when it is directed toward natives (this thread contains plenty of proof of that), but say something about black people and suddenly you are black listed for life from the NBA.

That's because it isn't racism if the culture is intended to be represented in a proud and admirable fashion. The depiction of the group by the team is a proud one, not a patronizing fashion. You would see that is u weren't actively LOOKINg for something to :cry: about

Still using an archaic term that a minority are outraged by doesn't qualify as racist.

[masonanddixon]

It's crazy how far society has degenerated in 2014.

In 1969 we landed a man on the moon. Now the important news is the liberal gestapo going after an 82 year old man for making comments about blacks. Brilliant!

[dunksby]

With the amount of cussing and insults being thrown around I can't decide which side is more sensitive :oldlol: