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Akrazotile
05-01-2014, 07:34 PM
If Donald Sterling OWNS the team... How does the NBA enforce a ban on him not to attend their practices, games, team events? He's the one who pays for all those things. They're in his name (I assume). How does the NBA enforce an order that he not communicate with his OWN employees?

If he can't legally challenge the owners to include him in the league over this, I don't understand how they can legally ban him from his own team?


Does anyone know the answer to this? What if he just shows up anyway? Can they arrest him for going to the practice facility that HE owns??? Do all owners sign something agreeing to this when they take ownership?


I'm not saying the NBA can't do anything, I'm just curious what the legal context is. What clause or law or whatever actually allows them to enforce this?

ArbitraryWater
05-01-2014, 07:36 PM
You say you're all fed up with this theater surrounding this topic, and exactly as the news start to cool down about it, you start another thread.... great :hammerhead:

NoGunzJustSkillz
05-01-2014, 07:36 PM
Who the fck cares. Players would boycott if the suspension wasn't harsh. No players, no sponsors is a tough sell.

AnaheimLakers24
05-01-2014, 07:36 PM
we get it. you're doing this sterling shtick. its not funny homo

Knicksfever2010
05-01-2014, 07:36 PM
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001505997/3312659258_ojsimpson_answer_2_xlarge.jpeg

Verticality
05-01-2014, 07:37 PM
It is in a contract he signed with the NBA that give NBA such powers over the owners.

Akrazotile
05-01-2014, 07:37 PM
You say you're all fed up with this theater surrounding this topic, and exactly as the news start to cool down about it, you start another thread.... great :hammerhead:


....whut?

oarabbus
05-01-2014, 07:37 PM
If Donald Sterling OWNS the team... How does the NBA enforce a ban on him not to attend their practices, games, team events? He's the one who pays for all those things. They're in his name (I assume). How does the NBA enforce an order that he not communicate with his OWN employees?

If he can't legally challenge the owners to include him in the league over this, I don't understand how they can legally ban him from his own team?


Does anyone know the answer to this? What if he just shows up anyway? Can they arrest him for going to the practice facility that HE owns??? Do all owners sign something agreeing to this when they take ownership?


I'm not saying the NBA can't do anything, I'm just curious what the legal context is. What clause or law or whatever actually allows them to enforce this?


It's not like paramilitary troops will enter the arena and take him out in handcuffs. Rather, Silver has the power to fine him if he attends games. So he'd be buying a million dollar ticket to his own games. They have the right to fine whoever for whatever, just look at all the fines Cuban has paid. That's what this is. There is no way of legally preventing him from entering the game, just like there is no legal issue with Cuban talking **** about the refs, just a hefty fine.

AnaheimLakers24
05-01-2014, 07:38 PM
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/345/125/92a.png

Akrazotile
05-01-2014, 07:38 PM
we get it. you're doing this sterling shtick. its not funny homo


Says the guy who plays on his internet gimmicks instead of getting laid.


:facepalm

red1
05-01-2014, 07:39 PM
tell rashawn to beat him up if he tries walking in

zoom17
05-01-2014, 07:39 PM
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/225/6/9/oh_my_god__who_the_hell_cares__by_nzabob-d46gjne.gif

Akrazotile
05-01-2014, 07:39 PM
It's not like paramilitary troops will enter the arena and take him out in handcuffs. Rather, Silver has the power to fine him if he attends games. So he'd be buying a million dollar ticket to his own games. They have the right to fine whoever for whatever, just look at all the fines Cuban has paid. That's what this is. There is no way of legally preventing him from entering the game, just like there is no legal issue with Cuban talking **** about the refs, just a hefty fine.


Ah, I see.

That's the kind answer I was looking for. Thanks.

Sarcastic
05-01-2014, 07:58 PM
He doesn't actually "own" the team in the sense that a restaurant owner owns his restaurant, or a person owns their house. The NBA "owns" the Clippers. Sterling is actually a "Member of the Association". A business owner of a normal business has the choice to shut down his business at his whim. An NBA owner does not have the same luxury. Sterling couldn't just decide to close up shop on the Clippers one year, and no longer play games. Nor can he decide that he wants his team to play more games than the NBA chooses. He couldn't just decide in one year to play 160 games because he wants to make more money.


Of course the NBA can't just remove him on a whim either. The league requires a vote from all the other "Members" to remove him.

Jailblazers7
05-01-2014, 08:01 PM
The weird part is that he is paying and has no decision making power. What if they just go into the luxury tax and bleed him dry until he sells? :lol

MavsSuperFan
05-01-2014, 08:11 PM
I'm honestly curious about this too. Everything I know about property rights in America seems to go against these bylaws. Essentially Sterling is being forced to sell his company because of being a racist. I don't see how that holds up in court.

Personally I think Sterlings a despicable person, but I still think he would win in court if he challenged the ban. I mean he's still paying the salaries of all of the clipper employees including the players, coaches and front office.

I don't think the clippers owns the staple center so I can see him being banned from there.

I think what the NBA is trying to do is just to put a lot of pressure on Sterling for two reasons

1. Sterling is known for being extremely cheap, he is unlikely to spend the amount of money necessary to battle this in the courts if he gets a decent buy offer

Eg. Does anyone believe Sterling would not sell if he got a buy offer of $900 million or more?

2. The lifetime ban made the NBA and Adam Silver look amazing towards a large portion of the Fanbase and almost all of the players

Verticality
05-01-2014, 08:24 PM
He doesn't actually "own" the team in the sense that a restaurant owner owns his restaurant, or a person owns their house. The NBA "owns" the Clippers. Sterling is actually a "Member of the Association". A business owner of a normal business has the choice to shut down his business at his whim. An NBA owner does not have the same luxury. Sterling couldn't just decide to close up shop on the Clippers one year, and no longer play games. Nor can he decide that he wants his team to play more games than the NBA chooses. He couldn't just decide in one year to play 160 games because he wants to make more money.


Of course the NBA can't just remove him on a whim either. The league requires a vote from all the other "Members" to remove him.

Reminds me of a franchise. You can buy a Subway, but that doesn't mean it is completely yours because the rights still belong to the mother company and they likely have a contract with you that gives them certain powers over your business.

Sarcastic
05-01-2014, 08:48 PM
Reminds me of a franchise. You can buy a Subway, but that doesn't mean it is completely yours because the rights still belong to the mother company and they likely have a contract with you that gives them certain powers over your business.


That's why teams are called franchises.

CelticBaller
05-01-2014, 08:49 PM
That's why teams are called franchises.
:lol

YouGotServed
05-01-2014, 08:54 PM
That's why teams are called franchises.

:roll:

ZenMaster
05-01-2014, 09:13 PM
He doesn't actually "own" the team in the sense that a restaurant owner owns his restaurant, or a person owns their house. The NBA "owns" the Clippers. Sterling is actually a "Member of the Association". A business owner of a normal business has the choice to shut down his business at his whim. An NBA owner does not have the same luxury. Sterling couldn't just decide to close up shop on the Clippers one year, and no longer play games. Nor can he decide that he wants his team to play more games than the NBA chooses. He couldn't just decide in one year to play 160 games because he wants to make more money.


Of course the NBA can't just remove him on a whim either. The league requires a vote from all the other "Members" to remove him.

Are all teams defined as franchises?
Legally wouldn't there be a difference for teams that can be traced back to the beginning of the NBA, shouldn't certain clubs, like the Celtics, be seen as founders? They probably aren't, but at what point in time did the Celtics give up their rights of changing leagues or closing the team?

Sarcastic
05-01-2014, 09:22 PM
Are all teams defined as franchises?
Legally wouldn't there be a difference for teams that can be traced back to the beginning of the NBA, shouldn't certain clubs, like the Celtics, be seen as founders? They probably aren't, but at what point in time did the Celtics give up their rights of changing leagues or closing the team?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Association


The National Basketball Association (NBA) is the pre-eminent men's professional basketball league in North America, and is widely considered to be the premier men's professional basketball league in the world. It has thirty franchised member clubs (29 in the United States and 1 in Canada), and is an active member of USA Basketball (USAB),[1] which is recognized by FIBA (also known as the International Basketball Federation) as the national governing body for basketball in the United States. The NBA is one of the four major North American professional sports leagues. NBA players are the world's best paid sportsmen, by average annual salary per player.[2]

AirTupac
05-01-2014, 10:01 PM
That's why teams are called franchises.

So simple yet so funny. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

longtime lurker
05-01-2014, 10:09 PM
He doesn't actually "own" the team in the sense that a restaurant owner owns his restaurant, or a person owns their house. The NBA "owns" the Clippers. Sterling is actually a "Member of the Association". A business owner of a normal business has the choice to shut down his business at his whim. An NBA owner does not have the same luxury. Sterling couldn't just decide to close up shop on the Clippers one year, and no longer play games. Nor can he decide that he wants his team to play more games than the NBA chooses. He couldn't just decide in one year to play 160 games because he wants to make more money.


Of course the NBA can't just remove him on a whim either. The league requires a vote from all the other "Members" to remove him.

This should have really ended the thread. But of course the idiots like the OP will keep making threads about the same topic and acting like the NBA doesn't have the right to strip Sterling of his ownership. I'm pretty sure the NBA didn't find their lawyers on the back of a cereal box, so they wouldn't be making this move if there wasn't a sound legal backing behind it.

ZenMaster
05-01-2014, 10:16 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Association


The National Basketball Association (NBA) is the pre-eminent men's professional basketball league in North America, and is widely considered to be the premier men's professional basketball league in the world. It has thirty franchised member clubs (29 in the United States and 1 in Canada), and is an active member of USA Basketball (USAB),[1] which is recognized by FIBA (also known as the International Basketball Federation) as the national governing body for basketball in the United States. The NBA is one of the four major North American professional sports leagues. NBA players are the world's best paid sportsmen, by average annual salary per player.[2]

Yes I get that, but was wondering if you know how it came about?

Hoopz2332
05-02-2014, 11:23 AM
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/345/125/92a.png


:oldlol:

ralph_i_el
05-02-2014, 12:53 PM
well they probably start with taking draft picks. After a while then they could just contract the team. There's no team if no one comes to play you