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KungFuJoe
05-03-2014, 01:57 AM
He was clutch as **** tonight...on both ends. Dominated the 4th and a HUGE block in the end.

Only to lose, once again, on Houston's backcourt having no ****ing clue on defense.

How many times in the regular season did Houston lose on a play just like this?

bluechox2
05-03-2014, 01:59 AM
howard bringing his first round exits to houston :lol

Cocaine80s
05-03-2014, 01:59 AM
****ing horrible timing for bev to get sick. maybe its karma.

harden and lin need to work on their defense together this summer

oarabbus
05-03-2014, 02:00 AM
Dwight was absolutely amazing the entire series

TheMarkMadsen
05-03-2014, 02:00 AM
He had a great run in the 4th but he missed 2 free throws and clanked a point blank all within the last 2 minutes of the game so I wouldn't say he was clutch.

Was out played by LMA this series

Harden is turrible. I bet Dwight wishes he was back in the east.. Not having too much luck in the west

Leroy Jetson
05-03-2014, 02:00 AM
I have been down on Howard the last two years but gotta give him credit. He played well this series and the loss is definitely not on him. He really needs to find a reliable second star :lol.

COnDEMnED
05-03-2014, 02:01 AM
howard bringing his first round exits to houston :lol
Houston was already notorious for first round exits.

MMM
05-03-2014, 02:03 AM
Props to Howards play but as the leader he has got to instill better defensive work ethic in his teammates. Going forward I think he has a better chance of doing that.

ABfor3
05-03-2014, 02:04 AM
howard bringing his first round exits to houston :lol
You do realize he brought his team to the finals before right?

KungFuJoe
05-03-2014, 02:04 AM
****ing horrible timing for bev to get sick. maybe its karma.

harden and lin need to work on their defense together this summer

Lin's defense was TOP NOTCH the entire series.

Harden and PARSONS need to work on their D.

The more I see Parsons, the more I realize that he's pretty damn bad on D.

SCdac
05-03-2014, 02:06 AM
This is the team Howard wanted to go to (they played exactly the same last season). Running the offense through both Howard and Harden is deceptively flawed (meaning, it looks awesome at times, but is it?). Some of it falls on the coach not the players always. Credit to Howard for being consistent in going one-on-one against Sideshow Bob, but Portland could live with it. Howard couldn't stay a .70 FT% shooter all game and that's kind of what Blazers counted on.

Le Shaqtus
05-03-2014, 02:09 AM
Props to Howards play but as the leader he has got to instill better defensive work ethic in his teammates. Going forward I think he has a better chance of doing that.

How can you instill a defensive work ethic into a guy who's main mode of defense is half assed slap to the ball as the offensive player blows by you

Cocaine80s
05-03-2014, 02:09 AM
Lin's defense was TOP NOTCH the entire series.

Harden and PARSONS need to work on their D.

The more I see Parsons, the more I realize that he's pretty damn bad on D.
yea but he was mainly guarding mo williams. he should work on it hard this summer so he can start again next season. maybe next time they meet he guards lillard full time.

Heavincent
05-03-2014, 02:10 AM
Clutch? He missed some crucial FT's.

christian1923
05-03-2014, 02:11 AM
Lol feel bad? He choose to play with these guys. Dwight's gotta do more.

jrong
05-03-2014, 02:11 AM
It's both scary and sad how much Howard could rule the league if he had the skills of other bigs. With his physical stature in today's Charmin-soft NBA, he should be prime Shaq-level dominant.

He needs to play with a legit PG though. Kobe wasn't gonna give him the ball. And with Harden it's even worse because like Kobe he monopolizes the ball, but unlike Kobe, he's a fake star.

It will get even worse if they try to bring in Melo. Good God, Harden and Melo together. Houston will give up 60 pts a night on the wings.

KungFuJoe
05-03-2014, 02:13 AM
Lol feel bad? He choose to play with these guys. Dwight's gotta do more.

What more can he do?

He was the ONLY Rocket to show up for every game!

Harden was horrible for every game except tonight.

Parsons would have great first halfs, then disappear in the 2nd (2 points tonight in the 2nd half even though it WAS a huge shot).

Beverley was sick. Lin was inconsistent.

Asik...other than good D on LMA...made some absolutely STUPID mistakes everywhere else.

TJones? WOW his stock dropped big time this series...LMA made him his bitch.

christian1923
05-03-2014, 02:16 AM
What more can he do?

He was the ONLY Rocket to show up for every game!

Harden was horrible for every game except tonight.

Parsons would have great first halfs, then disappear in the 2nd (2 points tonight in the 2nd half even though it WAS a huge shot).

Beverley was sick. Lin was inconsistent.

Asik...other than good D on LMA...made some absolutely STUPID mistakes everywhere else.

TJones? WOW his stock dropped big time this series...LMA made him his bitch.

He played well at the end tonight. But there were other games in this series where he didn't show up in the 2nd half.

He chose to play with these inexperienced guys. He could have gone to Dallas

BlackVVaves
05-03-2014, 02:17 AM
You can't ask more than 26 12 and 3 blocks. When he is a career 18 PPG. And for the season he was what, 19 PPG?

Harden lost them the series. He sucks in the playoffs so far in his career, let's just call it what it is. Great series against the Spurs. Few moments in between. And a whole lot of choking.

Also, Beverly got his karma. Got embarrassed on national TV for most of 2 weeks. Just wish I could have seen WB do it. Good for him.

Milbuck
05-03-2014, 02:18 AM
THIS.

Howard was a beast all series, he does not deserve an ounce of blame. It all goes to Harden.

**** that useless piece of shit, costing Dwight and Parsons a chance at making a deep run.

Without a doubt the biggest fraud in the NBA.

FaceSmack
05-03-2014, 02:19 AM
in yo face coward

thats what u get for leaving the LAKERS u piece of shit

u deserve EVERY disappointment comin ur way

LeFraud James
05-03-2014, 02:20 AM
I don't feel bad for clowns.

Hope that simpleton likes fishing as much as Sterling likes minorities.

Smook A.
05-03-2014, 02:20 AM
in yo face coward

thats what u get for leaving the LAKERS u piece of shit

u deserve EVERY disappointment comin ur way
wuuuuttttt??? :biggums:

You realize that if he stayed with the Lakers he wouldnt even have made the Playoffs, right?

Jameerthefear
05-03-2014, 02:20 AM
Dwight was great. I agree. Overall Harden has to play better and the bench is going to need some tweaking going into next season. Not a Houston fan, but I can see them being right back in the mix next year. This series was sooooo close after all.

LeFraud James
05-03-2014, 02:22 AM
THIS.

Howard was a beast all series, he does not deserve an ounce of blame. It all goes to Harden.

**** that useless piece of shit, costing Dwight and Parsons a chance at making a deep run.

Without a doubt the biggest fraud in the NBA.

*clears throat*

oarabbus
05-03-2014, 02:22 AM
I feel pretty bad for Dwight watching that post game interview. He played to win that series.

Le Shaqtus
05-03-2014, 02:23 AM
in yo face coward

thats what u get for leaving the LAKERS u piece of shit

u deserve EVERY disappointment comin ur way

So mad

Jameerthefear
05-03-2014, 02:24 AM
I feel pretty bad for Dwight watching that post game interview. He played to win that series.
Link?

oarabbus
05-03-2014, 02:24 AM
in yo face coward

thats what u get for leaving the LAKERS u piece of shit

u deserve EVERY disappointment comin ur way


stay mad b1tch :oldlol:

JohnFreeman
05-03-2014, 02:24 AM
Harden was trash all series, poor Howard

BlackVVaves
05-03-2014, 02:28 AM
Howard looked like he just finished balling his eyes out, washed his face, and came on the stage.

SCdac
05-03-2014, 02:28 AM
It's both scary and sad how much Howard could rule the league if he had the skills of other bigs. With his physical stature in today's Charmin-soft NBA, he should be prime Shaq-level dominant.

He needs to play with a legit PG though. Kobe wasn't gonna give him the ball. And with Harden it's even worse because like Kobe he monopolizes the ball, but unlike Kobe, he's a fake star.

It will get even worse if they try to bring in Melo. Good God, Harden and Melo together. Houston will give up 60 pts a night on the wings.

He should be, yet he's not. He's not that kind of offensive player. He's been in the league 10 years now and has a career average of 18 ppg. Has had plenty of time to emerge as "Shaq-level dominant" and is approaching 30 years old.

Threethrows
05-03-2014, 02:30 AM
Lets be real, Swaggy P >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harden.

Dwight should have stayed

Jameerthefear
05-03-2014, 03:26 AM
Looks devastated: http://www.nba.com/rockets/video/2014/05/02/ZOOM0009MOV-3257401

LeFraud James
05-03-2014, 03:31 AM
He should be, yet he's not. He's not that kind of offensive player. He's been in the league 10 years now and has a career average of 18 ppg. Has had plenty of time to emerge as "Shaq-level dominant" and is approaching 30 years old.

Two words.

Work ethic

KungFuJoe
05-03-2014, 03:33 AM
Shaq is a legit 7'1". Howard is 6'10".

He's really just a big PF. He'll never be as dominant as Shaq was because he simply doesn't have the size.

Marlo_Stanfield
05-03-2014, 03:38 AM
****ing horrible timing for bev to get sick. maybe its karma.

harden and lin need to work on their defense together this summer
shut your mouth.
Lin held Lillard to ZERO points all 4th quater. Lillard was visibly shook.
to bad Lin wasnt there for the last second to prevent rockets backcourt defense from collpasing:roll: :roll: :roll:

oarabbus
05-03-2014, 03:40 AM
Shaq is a legit 7'1". Howard is 6'10".

He's really just a big PF. He'll never be as dominant as Shaq was because he simply doesn't have the size.

Karl Malone was about Dwight's height. I suppose you could make the argument that Malone wasn't as dominant as Shaq though.

Marlo_Stanfield
05-03-2014, 03:44 AM
the rockets seriously need to get rid of McFail and Harden.
there will be enough stupid franchises who take hardens contract.
the team should look something like this next season.
Lin/Beverley
Afflalo/Daniels
Parsons/defensive specialist with 3 pt range
Montiejunas/Jones
Howard/asik( or someone else if Asik still wants out)

this team would content sooo easily witha coach like hollins or an gundy

BlackVVaves
05-03-2014, 03:46 AM
On second thought though...

If Dwight makes ONE of those 4 missed free throws in the clutch, the Rockets are going to overtime after that shot.

Same could be said about Game 1.

One could say Dwight's poor free throw shooting cost them a couple games.

But, Harden cost them the series. Second tier, one way superstar. Wade >>>

dazzer87
05-03-2014, 03:47 AM
in yo face coward

thats what u get for leaving the LAKERS u piece of shit

u deserve EVERY disappointment comin ur way
Lakers fan........:facepalm

KungFuJoe
05-03-2014, 03:47 AM
Karl Malone was about Dwight's height. I suppose you could make the argument that Malone wasn't as dominant as Shaq though.

DH doesn't have 1/100th of the skillset Malone had.

The only way DH can dominate is by using his size and physical ability. And that's where his height limits just how dominant he can be.

People think "oh it's just three inches". In basketball, even ONE inch is an advantage...especially when you're talking about banging down low. That's why I always give utmost respect to undersized guys who play with the big boys.

KungFuJoe
05-03-2014, 03:48 AM
On second thought though...

If Dwight makes ONE of those 4 missed free throws in the clutch, the Rockets are going to overtime after that shot.

Same could be said about Game 1.

One could say Dwight's poor free throw shooting cost them a couple games.

But, Harden cost them the series. Second tier, one way superstar. Wade >>>

Can't blame Howard for free throws. He actually did more than 10% better in the post season than the regular season.

You knew what you were gonna get with Howard and he actually over delivered. You thought you knew what you were gonna get with Harden and he underdelivered.

Black Mamba's B
05-03-2014, 03:49 AM
He chose this path. He played well but don't feel bad for him, he doesn't deserve sympathy. He's a coach killer and a cancer, look how he left Orlando.

longtime lurker
05-03-2014, 03:53 AM
Haha yeah right feeling bad for Howard. This is exactly what he wanted. Dwight is a talented player, but he's not a leader. If he had played his whole career in the West he'd be seen in the same light as Carmelo.

BlackVVaves
05-03-2014, 04:02 AM
Can't blame Howard for free throws. He actually did more than 10% better in the post season than the regular season.

You knew what you were gonna get with Howard and he actually over delivered. You thought you knew what you were gonna get with Harden and he underdelivered.

The fact still remains though, if Howard makes literally a couple more free throws in total in that series, Houston may have won in 6 instead of losing in 6.

I still contend Harden lost them the series, but that little fact can't be ignored either about Dwight. Also, his 6 point second half in Game 2 was unacceptable after he literally dominated the Blazers in the first half.

Idk. He exceeded his regular production, but simultaneously had flaws that directly impacted games. That can't be ignored.

But yeah. Harden and McHale deserve the blame foremost. Also, Beverly needs to go sit his over-confident ass down, he got straight clowned this series :roll:

davehos
05-03-2014, 04:16 AM
He was clutch as **** tonight...on both ends. Dominated the 4th and a HUGE block in the end.

Only to lose, once again, on Houston's backcourt having no ****ing clue on defense.

How many times in the regular season did Houston lose on a play just like this?

He has more than a half dozen baby mama's to comfort him.

:roll: :roll:

Marlo_Stanfield
05-03-2014, 05:09 AM
The fact still remains though, if Howard makes literally a couple more free throws in total in that series, Houston may have won in 6 instead of losing in 6.

I still contend Harden lost them the series, but that little fact can't be ignored either about Dwight. Also, his 6 point second half in Game 2 was unacceptable after he literally dominated the Blazers in the first half.

Idk. He exceeded his regular production, but simultaneously had flaws that directly impacted games. That can't be ignored.

But yeah. Harden and McHale deserve the blame foremost. Also, Beverly needs to go sit his over-confident ass down, he got straight clowned this series :roll:
Patrick Beverley:" defense is how i got into this league. i would call myself a defensive superstar"
:yaohappy: :yaohappy:

GimmeThat
05-03-2014, 05:18 AM
This is the team Howard wanted to go to (they played exactly the same last season). Running the offense through both Howard and Harden is deceptively flawed (meaning, it looks awesome at times, but is it?). Some of it falls on the coach not the players always. Credit to Howard for being consistent in going one-on-one against Sideshow Bob, but Portland could live with it. Howard couldn't stay a .70 FT% shooter all game and that's kind of what Blazers counted on.

This

K Xerxes
05-03-2014, 05:42 AM
The fact still remains though, if Howard makes literally a couple more free throws in total in that series, Houston may have won in 6 instead of losing in 6.

I'm sure you could do that about anyone who didn't shoot 100% FTs and lost a close game. His production in this series has skyrocketed all round, including his FT%, which is great for him considering his past 2 years of ~50%.

I have a hard time attaching much blame to Dwight just because he wasn't great all the time, or that he didn't exert Shaq like dominance. He's been in the league 10 years now, he is what he is. But he raised his game this series, while Harden's plummeted.

Harden and McHale deserve the lion's share of blame clearly.

bdreason
05-03-2014, 05:44 AM
West is tough. Plenty of really good players exiting in this first round this year. Rockets will be a good team next year, and will have another chance to prove themselves.

Dresta
05-03-2014, 06:58 AM
The fact still remains though, if Howard makes literally a couple more free throws in total in that series, Houston may have won in 6 instead of losing in 6.

I still contend Harden lost them the series, but that little fact can't be ignored either about Dwight. Also, his 6 point second half in Game 2 was unacceptable after he literally dominated the Blazers in the first half.

Idk. He exceeded his regular production, but simultaneously had flaws that directly impacted games. That can't be ignored.

But yeah. Harden and McHale deserve the blame foremost. Also, Beverly needs to go sit his over-confident ass down, he got straight clowned this series :roll:Yeah it can because he shot 63% on FT's, which means he upped his level of performance in the playoffs. He upped it in every way in fact. Can't say the same for the likes of Harden.

leMVP
05-03-2014, 07:48 AM
What happened in this series reminded me of Shaq-Kobe last trip together to the finals.

When a SG costs a great C to lose a series because of his Chucking mentality.

BigBoss
05-03-2014, 08:35 AM
First round exit again and people think hes a dominant big man?

Im Still Ballin
05-03-2014, 08:48 AM
First round exit again and people think hes a dominant big man?

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Niqqa u in all sorts of wrongs. He played outstanding, it's all on Haren and McFail.

VengefulAngel
05-03-2014, 08:54 AM
He was great during this series, if Harden could play any semblance of defense they would be in the WCF.

BlkMambaGOAT
05-03-2014, 08:59 AM
even as a laker fan, I know Howard did a lot for the Rockets.

Harden on the other hand needs to change his game up. Not every1 can be Kobe or MJ. He should be a spot-up shooter who actually feeds D12 at the post.

More importantly he needs to improve in his D. It's painful watchin players score on him after the Rockets make a key play.

gg Rockets, you got potential. You just to tweak a few players.