View Full Version : Andrew Bynum: What Could've Been
TheMagicMan
05-04-2014, 08:26 PM
Not gonna lie, as a Laker fan this brought a tear to my eye :cry:
http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/bynumsmokeagif_1.gif
sammichoffate
05-04-2014, 08:29 PM
Not gonna lie, as a Laker fan this brought a tear to my eye :cry:
http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/bynumsmokeagif_1.gifBiggest bust ever in terms of potential. Had the tools to be an absolute monster
no pun intended
05-04-2014, 08:29 PM
Biggest bust ever in terms of potential. Had the tools to be an absolute monster
Greg Oden?
TheMagicMan
05-04-2014, 08:30 PM
Biggest bust ever in terms of potential. Had the tools to be an absolute monster
http://msn.foxsports.com/content/dam/fsdigital/RSN/Ohio/2014/03/22/032214-FSO-NBA-Bynum.jpg
Beastmode88
05-04-2014, 08:30 PM
What's more of an issue, his lack to want it or his shitty knees?
sammichoffate
05-04-2014, 08:32 PM
Greg Oden?Him too, would also include Brandon Roy
Springsteen
05-04-2014, 08:32 PM
Biggest bust ever in terms of potential. Had the tools to be an absolute monster
Not his fault he had bum ass knees.
Could he have had a better work ethic? Absolutely. But he had a degenerative knee issue (genetic). Maybe with a Duncan/Kobe-like attitude he could've squeezed out another year or two but one way or another his legs were heading down the road of Greg Oden and Brandon Roy.
PickernRoller
05-04-2014, 08:32 PM
Not gonna lie, as a Laker fan this brought a tear to my eye :cry:
http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/bynumsmokeagif_1.gif
Triple threat face up, dreamshake , then up and under move......
Springsteen
05-04-2014, 08:34 PM
What's more of an issue, his lack to want it or his shitty knees?
It's worth noting that Brandon Roy had the same problem as Bynum and worked as hard as anybody to come back quite a few times. Same result in the end.
TheMagicMan
05-04-2014, 08:35 PM
What's more of an issue, his lack to want it or his shitty knees?
Knee issues. He had a shitty attitude, but his 90 year old knees hindered him the most.
TheMagicMan
05-04-2014, 08:36 PM
Triple threat face up, dreamshake , then up and under move......
Against Joakim Noah too :applause:
ZMonkey11
05-04-2014, 10:15 PM
Biggest bust ever in terms of potential. Had the tools to be an absolute monster
What? 2x NBA Champion, 1x NBA All-Star, 1x NBA All-Second team and you call him the biggest bust ever?
Kid was an absolute beast, improving every year until knee problems became too much to overcome. He was an absolute terror in the paint with his long arms.
Get out of here.
JohnFreeman
05-04-2014, 10:17 PM
He played well in the 09,10 series
dreamwarrior
05-05-2014, 12:49 AM
His initial ceiling was not that high but the Lakers kept pushing and pushing him. He left L.A. arguably the 2nd best center in the league.
VIntageNOvel
05-05-2014, 12:55 AM
Against Joakim Noah too :applause:
and he already lost half his athleticism due to injury
ohh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eri9mW56R6k
VIntageNOvel
05-05-2014, 12:56 AM
What? 2x NBA Champion, 1x NBA All-Star, 1x NBA All-Second team and you call him the biggest bust ever?
Kid was an absolute beast, improving every year until knee problems became too much to overcome. He was an absolute terror in the paint with his long arms.
Get out of here.
maybe bust in term that he can be so much better without injury
i mean with the lazy attitude, how he dont like basketball, how he started off late , and the injury, yet still manage to be clear cut #2
one could only imagine what if
RedBlackAttack
05-05-2014, 01:02 AM
Against Joakim Noah too :applause:
He completely dominated Noah in that game, too, so it wasn't just one pretty move.
20 points (8-14 shooting), 14 rebounds, 5 blocks in 30 minutes.
Meanwhile, Noah scored 4 points on 2-10 from the field.
It was games like this that gave us hope that Bynum was on his way back to form. He was never consistent enough, though, and his horrible attitude got in the way.
He pretty much cost the team a playoff spot. In his 35 games in Cleveland, the Cavs were 12-23, while being basically completely healthy the whole time. After he left the team, they finished the year 22-25, while being ravaged with injuries to key players.
But, even if you take the .468 winning percentage they maintained after Bynum was gone and apply it to the first 35 games, the Cavs easily get into the playoffs. Something tells me, with as healthy as they were during Bynum's stay, the percentage would have been better than that.
He did far more damage to the team than I ever though possible. I didn't think his addition in the offseason could possibly hurt us, just because of the way his contract was structured. I was wrong.
He pretty much cost the team a playoff spot. .
How, exactly?
JohnFreeman
05-05-2014, 01:17 AM
What did Bynum do to get kicked out of Cleveland?
RedBlackAttack
05-05-2014, 01:28 AM
How, exactly?
The numbers don't lie. Cavs had a .342 winning percentage in the 35 games with him, during which time the team was basically totally healthy.
In the 47 games after he left, the team's winning percentage shot up to .468, while being ravaged with injuries to key guys (Kyrie, Waiters, Deng). Also, all of the in-fighting, finger-pointing and tension was also seemingly gone the moment he was out of town.
He was a complete and utter disaster.
RedBlackAttack
05-05-2014, 01:31 AM
What did Bynum do to get kicked out of Cleveland?
1. He wasn't good enough in his initial 35 games to warrant keeping around, fiscally. If he had stayed in Cleveland past the trade deadline, they would have owed him double the money.
2. His attitude was awful. It was reported that, during practice, he started heaving shots up from all over the court, including one from beyond half court.
It just wasn't working out. He also probably cost Chris Grant his job.
The numbers don't lie. Cavs had a .342 winning percentage in the 35 games with him, during which time the team was basically totally healthy.
In the 47 games after he left, the team's winning percentage shot up to .468, while being ravaged with injuries to key guys (Kyrie, Waiters, Deng). Also, all of the in-fighting, finger-pointing and tension was also seemingly gone the moment he was out of town.
He was a complete and utter disaster.
Seems more coincidental to me actually. He didnt play enough to blame him for losses and his personal issues dont seem like they would affect what the other team members were doing. (Kyrie and Dion)
DukeDelonte13
05-05-2014, 08:04 AM
There has actually been a medical breakthrough within the last few weeks.
Scientists have actually finally figured out how to regrow the cartilage in joints.
Before, the microfracture surgeries and other similar techniques only produced kind of a pseudo cartilage that wasn't the same consistency as the cartilage you are originally born with.
So although Bynum's time is done, in the future players like him will be able to have much longer careers.
not convinced it's all from injuries.
he just seemed like he stopped giving a f---.
Is he going to play small minutes against the wizards?
DukeDelonte13
05-05-2014, 08:41 AM
not convinced it's all from injuries.
he just seemed like he stopped giving a f---.
no it's not all injuries, but the dude has knees of a 60 year old man, maybe even worse.
It's easy for us to say he's b*tchmade and doesn't have heart, but in reality, every time he steps on the court he's in pain. It's to a point where he just wants to live normally in his 30's and 40's, and already has millions of dollars.
Is it even worth him to play for another contract? Probably not. Sh*tty thing is that he keeps stringing teams along.
cos88
05-05-2014, 08:43 AM
Is he going to play small minutes against the wizards?
i really don't see how.
the most interesting things in this matchup should be how much is john wall going to abuse the opposing guard and how will hibbert play considering he will have incresead minutes
Next year if healthy he should start over Hibbert and Indiana should trade Roy.
Rake2204
05-05-2014, 09:20 AM
I do not think much about what Andrew Bynum could have been. He always kind of struck me as a guy who was playing basketball because he was big and people were telling him to. He actually did pretty well for a few years considering what his mentality was alleged to have been.
DukeDelonte13
05-05-2014, 09:27 AM
Next year if healthy he should start over Hibbert and Indiana should trade Roy.
he's never getting healthy. His condition can only worsen save for doctors being able regrow healthy cartilage in his knees. It's not going to happen in time for Bynum.
Greg Oden?
I actually think Bynum's ceiling was higher than Oden's.
Oden was definitely a beast when he could play, but I don't think he's as naturally talented as Bynum. Oden actually wants to play basketball, Bynum is just playing to get paid. Imagine if Bynum actually cared about the game.
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