90's shooting gaurds vs 00's shooting gaurds

[hateraid]

Taking out Micheal Jordan and Kobe Bryant out of the equation which era shooting gaurds where better:

Early to mid 90's:

Clyde Drexler
Reggie Miller
Mitch Richmond
Joe Dumars
Latrell Sprewell

vs

Early to mid 00's:

Allen Iverson
Dwyane Wade
Ray Allen
Manu Ginobili
Vince Carter

[Rubio2Gasol]

I'd say 00's edge it on that.

[Dro]

For the 90's you're leaving out Eddie Jones, Steve Smith, Jeff Hornacek, Dan Majerle, Allan Houston, Jimmy Jackson, Kendall Gill, Hersey Hawkins, and John Starks, and you might even throw Nick Anderson in there...They are not stars but when talking about depth, there's a good case for the 90's...

For the 2000's, you're leaving off Brandon Roy, Michael Redd, Richard Hamilton, Joe Johnson, Michael Finley, Kevin Martin, and Jerry Stackhouse...

Now looking at the whole picture, there's depth with both decades. If you look at today, the SG position has really fell off...

Edit - Forgot Monta Ellis for the 2000's..

[Relinquish]

For the 90's you're leaving out Steve Smith, Jeff Hornacek, Dan Majerle, Allan Houston, Jimmy Jackson, Kendall Gill, Hersey Hawkins, and John Starks, and you might even throw Nick Anderson in there...They are not stars but when talking about depth, there's a good case for the 90's...

For the 2000's, you're leaving off Brandon Roy, Michael Redd, Richard Hamilton, Joe Johnson, Michael Finley, Kevin Martin, and Jerry Stackhouse...

Now looking at the whole picture, there's depth with both decades. If you look at today, the SG position has really fell off...

John Starks wasn't even that good :facepalm

[Dro]

John Starks wasn't even that good :facepalm
Do you ever contribute anything to any thread? John Starks certainly was good..He's just as good as any of those other 2nd/3rd tier SG's I listed...He played on a slow pace Knicks squad and was still a good scorer with pretty good defense...

[robert_shaww]

Taking out Micheal Jordan and Kobe Bryant out of the equation which era shooting gaurds where better:

Early to mid 90's:

Clyde Drexler 1 ring
Reggie Miller 0
Mitch Richmond 0
Joe Dumars (0 rings in the 90s)
Latrell Sprewell 0

vs

Early to mid 00's:

Allen Iverson 0
Dwyane Wade 1
Ray Allen 0
Manu Ginobili 3
Vince Carter 0


4 vs 1.

because of Ginobili, give me the 00s

[hateraid]

For the 90's you're leaving out Eddie Jones, Steve Smith, Jeff Hornacek, Dan Majerle, Allan Houston, Jimmy Jackson, Kendall Gill, Hersey Hawkins, and John Starks, and you might even throw Nick Anderson in there...They are not stars but when talking about depth, there's a good case for the 90's...

For the 2000's, you're leaving off Brandon Roy, Michael Redd, Richard Hamilton, Joe Johnson, Michael Finley, Kevin Martin, and Jerry Stackhouse...

Now looking at the whole picture, there's depth with both decades. If you look at today, the SG position has really fell off...

Edit - Forgot Monta Ellis for the 2000's..

I went with a top 5 to shorten the list just because these were the more impactful players of the time. But this thread is not exclusive with just these players

[Dro]

I went with a top 5 to shorten the list just because these were the more impactful players of the time. But this thread is not exclusive with just these players
Yeah, I figured you were going for the top 5 best players...I just wanted to round it out so we can get a full picture...But honestly, its almost a tossup...Good thread by the way... +rep

[Relinquish]

Do you ever contribute anything to any thread? John Starks certainly was good..He's just as good as any of those other 2nd/3rd tier SG's I listed...He played on a slow pace Knicks squad and was still a good scorer with pretty good defense...

What do you want me to say? 00 is clearly better and there's no argument for the 90s. Starks played well in the playoffs but he was still probably the worst guard listed by a good margin. :confusedshrug:

[kennethgriffin]

its stupid to say "shooting guard" since allot of guys in the 2000's were do it all wings who brought the ball up. scored like a shooting guard and could drive

positions back in the 80's and 90's were more "pg pass first" "sg outsite shooter" and "sf post player"


if you look at wing players ( do it all guys who played outside allot of the time and scored like a shooting guard ) then you'l find the 2000's had far superior talent

guys like kobe/lebron guard each other... so whats a position really mean in the box score


i'd put melo/kd/bron/pierce and a ton more on that list

[jstern]

It's interesting, because I think Allen Iverson and I think of the 90s. He was such a main player when I think back to 96, 97, 98, 99. Then the year 2000 comes, if you put yourself in that moment, it's hard to associate Iverson in the 2000s, even though he played more years there. Ray Allen too, but he wasn't as big as Iverson.

[Jlamb47]

00
A.1 DWade Ginobli

[cos88]

let's be honest, how many of us watched prime dumars or prime clyde for more than a few torrent games or youtube videos? hard to judge, we all know they are all time greats and this makes it even harder to judge. also most of them were drafted one decade earlier :confusedshrug:

[Dro]

What do you want me to say? 00 is clearly better and there's no argument for the 90s. Starks played well in the playoffs but he was still probably the worst guard listed by a good margin. :confusedshrug:
Well, this is a better analysis than "durp, durp, John Starks was not that good:facepalm "..All I ask for is reasoning to back up your beliefs...I don't have to agree with it...

[houston]

90's was a weak era when it came to the wings. 2000's greatest era when it came to wings ever.

[Dro]

let's be honest, how many of us watched prime dumars or prime clyde for more than a few torrent games or youtube videos? hard to judge, we all know they are all time greats and this makes it even harder to judge. also most of them were drafted one decade earlier :confusedshrug:
? How old are you? I'm only 34 and I'm still plenty old enough to remember prime Joe Dumars(at least close to it) and definitely prime Drexler(1992).

[cos88]

well many posters are from other countries not named USA.


i'm 26, not old, not young. i was 4 when he clyde was in his prime and even younger when joe hit his. if i was 40-50 still no chance to catch live games considering very few places showed late 80s early 90s live nba ( i said ealry 90 not late :D ) in any country in Europe.

[Fire Colangelo]

McGrady nowhere to be seen....

[The-Legend-24]

00's and it's not close.

:oldlol: @ the weak comp MJ played against.

#Weakera

[Genaro]

2000's is the GOAT era for SGs, no doubt about it,

[cos88]

McGrady nowhere to be seen....


wtf are you clown talking about?



























































here he is:

http://www.ultraimg.com/images/HE2cQ.jpg

[jstern]

2000's is the GOAT era for SGs, no doubt about it,

2000s had the rule changes which gave career years to most shooting guards after they were implemented, and the people saying 2000s never saw the 90s play so they feel the 2000s better because they recognize the names while at a lost with the 90s ones.

I can just imagine the kids 10 years from now talking about Ginobli, and how nonathletic and awkward his game looked. And he came off the bench yet is considered one of the best of the era.

[tontoz]

Both eras > current one

[Dro]

well many posters are from other countries not named USA.


i'm 26, not old, not young. i was 4 when he clyde was in his prime and even younger when joe hit his. if i was 40-50 still no chance to catch live games considering very few places showed late 80s early 90s live nba ( i said ealry 90 not late :D ) in any country in Europe.
Ok, well then that makes sense...It would have helped if I had known you weren't from the US. I was assuming you were in which case you would have seen them. Or at the very least when you got around 10-12 years old would still have seen a lot of footage from them.

[Dro]

00's and it's not close.

:oldlol: @ the weak comp MJ played against.

#Weakera
If we included the 80's you would not be laughing...But it would probably do me no good to list the players anyway..Most posters on this forum don't do any research anyway:confusedshrug:

[Dro]

2000s had the rule changes which gave career years to most shooting guards after they were implemented, and the people saying 2000s never saw the 90s play so they feel the 2000s better because they recognize the names while at a lost with the 90s ones.

I can just imagine the kids 10 years from now talking about Ginobli, and how nonathletic and awkward his game looked. And he came off the bench yet is considered one of the best of the era.
Almost like Havlicek. Came off the bench for a good part of his career because he was on a stacked team. People don't understand how good he really was...

[kamil]

John Starks wasn't even that good :facepalm

Starks was one of the few guys ever to have been an absolute pest for Jordan to go up against. You're underrating the guy.

[hateraid]

McGrady nowhere to be seen....

Are you one of those guys that likes to post against the grain? Like if I originally put McGrady you'd post: "McGrady is not a shooting gaurd..."

[HOoopCityJones]

2000's is the GOAT era for SGs, no doubt about it,

Kobe standing above all of the speaks volumes about his talent.

[moe94]

Kobe standing above all of the speaks volumes about his talent.

Except Wade and T-Mac were every bit as good as him.

[HOoopCityJones]

2000's is the GOAT era for SGs, no doubt about it,

One Kobe to rule them all :bowdown:

[MiseryCityTexas]

John Starks wasn't even that good :facepalm

No he wasn't. He was just a CBA player that worked really hard and made an NBA team. Eddie Jones shits all over prime John Starks. That's why the Knicks signed Allan Houston in the mid 90s, and brought Starks off the bench before trading him years later.