Let's say Scott Brooks coached Heat

[RagaZ]

How do you think they would do?

2011: I think they lose to Bulls in ECF.
2012: Lose to Celtics in ECF.
2013: Lose to Spurs in the Finals.

Agree? A team coached by Scott Brooks will never win the title. OKC plays the ugliest basketball of all the elite teams and when the games are close their only hope is Durant, Westbrook or Harden(before) to hit a tough Iso shot. No ball movement.

[R.I.P.]

The guy is the worst coach in the play-offs every year. If the Thunder don

[rlsmooth775]

How do you think they would do?

2011: I think they lose to Bulls in ECF.
2012: Lose to Celtics in ECF.
2013: Lose to Spurs in the Finals.

Agree? A team coached by Scott Brooks will never win the title. OKC plays the ugliest basketball of all the elite teams and when the games are close their only hope is Durant, Westbrook or Harden(before) to hit a tough Iso shot. No ball movement.

The heat played the way OKC does in 2011 when they beat the Bulls

[imdaman99]

The heat played the way OKC does in 2011 when they beat the Bulls
Agreed, but they would still lose to the Mavs. Every year, Scott Brooks has the same mentality. He counts on his 2 stars to create and make plays. Imagine if Bran and Wade were still ISOing every play like the Thunder do. They wouldn't have won yet. Spo learned from his mistakes, Brooks gets away with it because he's in a small market.

[GimmeThat]

Clippers match up really well against the Thunders

Caron Butler and Reggie Jackson needs to step up.

I am surprised they lost at home. But I do think they can play Thunders basketball and outscore the Clippers.

This is where his two stars needs to become positionless, to allow any substituting role players to play their traditional role and shine. And then reverse.

It'll be a balance of offense and defense.

NOT an easy job.

And looking at the minutes, it appears he made decent in game adjustments. Not sure why Thunders fan are mad.

[alenleomessi]

they will do the same
spo has little to no affect on the heat

[tjgoHAM]

they will do the same
spo has little to no affect on the heat

agree

[SilkkTheShocker]

LeBron has played with shit coaches his whole career. It wouldn't make a difference.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Lebron and Wade are both far better playmakers than Durant and Westbrook. The results would still be the same.

[NumberSix]

Chips

[DukeDelonte13]

LeBron has played with shit coaches his whole career. It wouldn't make a difference.


every coach except pop are sh*t coaches on ISH.

It's the cycle of coaching. Coach overachieves in year one or two? He's God. Same coach doesn't win a chip in next two seasons? Clearly his fault, he's a piece of sh*t, fire him.

[SilkkTheShocker]

every coach except pop are sh*t coaches on ISH.

It's the cycle of coaching. Coach overachieves in year one or two? He's God. Same coach doesn't win a chip in next two seasons? Clearly his fault, he's a piece of sh*t, fire him.

Paul Silas and Mike Brown are most definitely bad coaches. Spolestra isn't bad by any means, but he isn't elite either.

[NumberSix]

Look at the coaches who have won lately.



Phil Jackson
Greg Popovich
Larry Brown
Pat Riley
Doc Rivers
Rick Carlisle
Erik Spoelstra



If LeBron can get it done back2back with Spo, Durant has no excuse with Brooks.

[SpecialQue]

So Spo's a great coach now? I remember during and after they teamed up people were calling for Spo to get canned.

[DukeDelonte13]

Paul Silas and Mike Brown are most definitely bad coaches. Spolestra isn't bad by any means, but he isn't elite either.

:oldlol: says the NBA coaching expert

Spo sucks. He was worthless without Lebron and Bosh. Granted those teams weren't the most talented, but i don't think Spo achieves what Brown did taking a roster starting sasha pavlovich and boobie gibson to the finals after beating a stacked detroit team.

People wanna say everything Brown accomplished was because of Lebron, but they dare not say the same thing about coach spo :oldlol:

[sd3035]

Spo runs great plays and has his players hustling on D

Brooks seems to do absolutely nothing

[sd3035]

Heat would be a 4-8 seed in the weak East with Brooks, they'd be bounced in the first or second round

[PJR]

:oldlol: says the NBA coaching expert

Spo sucks. He was worthless without Lebron and Bosh. Granted those teams weren't the most talented, but i don't think Spo achieves what Brown did taking a roster starting sasha pavlovich and boobie gibson to the finals after beating a stacked detroit team.

People wanna say everything Brown accomplished was because of Lebron, but they dare not say the same thing about coach spo :oldlol:

So since you seem to possess more acumen for coaching in professional basketball than say...Pat Riley(the man who personally employed Erik).

Tell us what about Spoelstra sucks specifically? Enlighten us all, retard.

[edrick]

Heat would be a 4-8 seed in the weak East with Brooks, they'd be bounced in the first or second round

Lebron's Cavs were higher than that before he left. Do you really think a team with Wade, Lebron, Bosh, couldn't get 1-3? :facepalm

[aj1987]

So since you seem to possess more acumen for coaching in professional basketball than say...Pat Riley(the man who personally employed Erik).

Tell us what about Spoelstra sucks specifically? Enlighten us all, retard.
I've always defended Spo, but he does make stupid decisions from time to time. He runs some horrendous lineups (2 PG Cole-Rio) even when they aren't working. Refuses to play LeBron more in the post. Doesn't give minutes during easy wins to players like Jones and Beasley. Doesn't go to LeBron when the Heat need scoring and draws up plays, which result in a long 2/3 brick by Bosh or Cole or Rio, etc..

[Kiddlovesnets]

Scott Brooks aint worse than Erik Spolestra, Lebron would win 2 chips anyway.

[DaSeba5]

Spo gets so much disrespect. It's ridiculous. People act like he just folds his arms on the sidelines and watches them play.

[PJR]

I've always defended Spo, but he does make stupid decisions from time to time. He runs some horrendous lineups (2 PG Cole-Rio) even when they aren't working.

The two point guard lineup has worked quite well actually. The metrics prove that. :confusedshrug:




In 2012 the two point guard lineup outscored opponents by just one point per 100 possessions, in 2013 that number jumped to 16.4. This year? A remarkable 24.2 NetRTG in a decent sample size. The lineup has topped the Heat as a whole in nearly every statistical category — points scored and allowed per 100 possessions, rebounding rate, assist rate, true-shooting and effective field goal percentage.



Refuses to play LeBron more in the post.

That's not on Spoelstra. That's on LeBron. The options are there within the offense.

Phil Jackson never had to demand Michael to get in the post. Michael took the onus apon himself, as the option was their within the offense(triangle).



Doesn't give minutes during easy wins to players like Jones and Beasley.

Perhaps Jones could've played more due to his shot making ability, but he is very one dimensional, and that's why he was was on the back burner for a while. But he's played in the post-season thus far, and has seemed to make his way back into the top 9 with Battier's shooting woes. When you have a veteran cast like Miami, it will always be a fluid situation that is contingent on who's playing the best at the time.

And Michael Beasley ****ing sucks. Spare me the talk about him. There's a reason he's been casted aside with three different organizations, including Miami.



Doesn't go to LeBron when the Heat need scoring and draws up plays, which result in a long 2/3 brick by Bosh or Cole or Rio, etc..

Lol.

Miami uses LeBron plenty. And in every way imaginable.


No offense to you in particular, But I just hate NBA fans sometimes. So uninformed, yet so opinionated lol. We gotta do better.

[Keno]

I've always defended Spo, but he does make stupid decisions from time to time. He runs some horrendous lineups (2 PG Cole-Rio) even when they aren't working. Refuses to play LeBron more in the post. Doesn't give minutes during easy wins to players like Jones and Beasley. Doesn't go to LeBron when the Heat need scoring and draws up plays, which result in a long 2/3 brick by Bosh or Cole or Rio, etc..

he did this a lot in the regular season which resulted in large deficits that were hard to come back. when wade was out, he used to start the second quarter without lebron and bosh and that basically lost them the game. his rotations in the playoffs have been good tho, minus rashard lewis (should be beasley).

[aj1987]

The two point guard lineup has worked quite well actually. The metrics prove that. :confusedshrug:
That's from '12. Watch the Heat RS games from this season. That lineup was horrendous and I was complaining in a bunch of GT's about it. Cole and Rio and dumb. There's not denying that. They might do some good shit from time to time, but overall, they are very average and make shitty plays all the time. Having both of them at the same time on the court? :oldlol:



That's not on Spoelstra. That's on LeBron. The options are there within the offense.

Phil Jackson never had to demand Michael to get in the post. Michael took the onus apon himself, as the option was their within the offense(triangle).
Once again, Cole, Allen, and Rio miss LeBron in the post so much, that it's disgusting. Any decent PG or Wade would go to LeBron once he's in a desirable location. Maybe Spo should not let them handle the ball as much.



And Michael Beasley ****ing sucks. Spare me the talk about him. There's a reason he's been casted aside with three different organizations, including Miami.
The games he has played with the Heat, he was really good. Dude got bounced because of off-court shit primarily. He seemed to have dealt with it and was playing good whenever he got time. Dude even stopped being a total chucker and took only decent shots. So many plays, where he could've chucked up a dumb shot (and he would've, if this was '12), but he didn't. He played sensibly.

Lets also not act like Lewis or Douglas are even remotely better than Jones or Beasley.


Miami uses LeBron plenty. And in every way imaginable.
Wut? Lol! I can name at least 20-30 plays in the last month alone, where LeBron should've been the one who handles the ball or sets up his teammates, but no, Spo decides to draw up a play for a random player. LeBron is on fire? Lets bench him so he loses his rhythm. etc. etc. I could go on forever.

I've watched ~90% of the games that Spo has coached since he took over. Dude is average at best. He's not a bad coach, but he's not elite either.


No offense to you in particular, But I just hate NBA fans sometimes. So uninformed, yet so opinionated lol. We gotta do better.
True. I agree with you on this.

[Mr. Incredible]

Nah. One team has the King, the other doesn't. Pretty simple.

[PJR]

That's from '12. Watch the Heat RS games from this season. That lineup was horrendous and I was complaining in a bunch of GT's about it. Cole and Rio and dumb. There's not denying that.

Nah homey. You need to re-read what I posted again. Particularly the part where it says "This year?".

The two point guard lineup with Chalmers and Cole in 2013-14 has been very good per the Metrics.

Again,


This year? A remarkable 24.2 NetRTG in a decent sample size. The lineup has topped the Heat as a whole in nearly every statistical category — points scored and allowed per 100 possessions, rebounding rate, assist rate, true-shooting and effective field goal percentage.

[aj1987]

Nah homey. You need to re-read what I posted again. Particularly the part where it says "This year?".

The two point guard lineup with Chalmers and Cole in 2013-14 has been very good per the Metrics.

Again,

.
That might be, but the point still stands. Whenever I watch a game with those two in at the same time, they always manage to **** it up. This is why stats are misleading sometimes. That article was published on the 6th of Jan. As of that time, Miami was 26-8 and on pace to win 63 games. After that, Miami went 28-20. Lets look at Cole's stats during and after that stretch.

26-8 > 7.1/2.6/3.1/0.9 on 46.9/42.6/81.5

28-20 > 5.9/1.5/3.0/1.0 on 37.5/30.1/75.6

Basically, Cole was going through a hot stretch and cooled down. Dude is a good defender, but not a good PG at all. You can't have two low IQ PG's on the court at the same time.

[PsychoBe]

brooks doesn't seem to know how to draw up a play to save his life, especially out of a time-out. if spoelstra was the okc coach he would not only have the team play more consistent defense, but also great offense as well. he would run plays for westbrook to shoot his favorite elbow jumpers within the flow of the game (since he likes chucking them for 0 reason as soon as he brings the ball up court) he would give kd more cuts to the rim, and he would keep the floor spread so that westbrook and kd would have all the floor space they need to operate.

brooks just packs the paint with ibaka and perkins/adams and runs iso/drive + kick plays to the team's one-two three point shooters and they play very uninspired defense at times.

i honestly dont want to see kevin mchale, scott brooks, or frank vogel again next year. they have 0 idea on how to maximize the talent around them. they are technically getting outcoached by a rookie jason kidd at this point.