The Effects of Lebron Changing the League...

[ATL_Bball_King]

We all know how the great Decision changed the entire NBA league with the concept of a Big 3....

He took the top 3 scorers in the entire East and put them on one team....

2 LeBron James, SF CLE 29.7 ppg
5 Dwyane Wade, SG MIA 26.6
9 Chris Bosh, C TOR 24.0

They all were top ten in the League...but top 3 in East

- He made players not give a damn about Franchises and should be able just leave when there contract is up...

- He obviously destroyed the competition in the East, we are now seeing the true effects of this now because of how weak the East is...

- He made it a league of Instant results and championships, meaning now if a team doesnt get results right away, coaches will be fired, stars will leave when contract is up and try and join other stars, leaving no true cohesiveness between players and coaches- New coaches means new system meaning to learning curve of system

- True teams that build from smart draft pics and great young players is over---props to OKC though

- Now its all about stacking teams, and when stacks teams lose they change anything in a blink of an eye---someone has to lose...smh

- I know KG/Ray/Piece getting together was a change like this, but they was not in their Prime, nor neither was the MVP atm or one didnt have a FMVP in his collection...Fixed

I mean obviously he met his main goal which was getting multiple championships...

But what he has done to the League and how it is starting to operate...Is it a good thing??? Is this a better league now???

IDK



Ishokace Sports

[J Shuttlesworth]

Pierce/Garnett/Allen get no mention?

[aj1987]

Yeah, because LeBron - Mo; Wade - Rio; Bosh - Andrea teams would've been amazing, right?

Retard. :facepalm

[BasedTom]

Kobe inspired a generation of shitty AAU chuckers. That's not even debatable.

Give me Duncan, Dirk, or KG on my team over him any day of the week.

[ATL_Bball_King]

Yeah, because LeBron - Mo; Wade - Rio; Bosh - Andrea teams would've been amazing, right?

Retard. :facepalm


This was years ago...why would they still have the same team...?? .And you right there cant be great draft players that come into a league and affect your team...This is obviously impossible

[red1]

We all know how the great Decision changed the entire NBA league with the concept of a Big 3....

He took the top 3 scorers in the entire East and put them on one team....

2 LeBron James, SF CLE 29.7 ppg
5 Dwyane Wade, SG MIA 26.6
9 Chris Bosh, C TOR 24.0

They all were top ten in the League...but top 3 in East

- He made players not give a damn about Franchises and should be able just leave when there contract is up...

- He obviously destroyed the competition in the East, we are now seeing the true effects of this now because of how weak the East is...

- He made it a league of Instant results and championships, meaning now if a team doesnt get results right away, coaches will be fired, stars will leave when contract is up and try and join other stars, leaving no true cohesiveness between players and coaches- New coaches means new system meaning to learning curve of system

- True teams that build from smart draft pics and great young players is over---props to OKC though

- Now its all about stacking teams, and when stacks teams lose they change anything in a blink of an eye---someone has to lose...smh

- I know KG/Ray/Piece getting together was a change like this, but they was not in their Prime, nor neither was the MVP atm or one didnt have a FMVP in his collection...Fixed

I mean obviously he met his main goal which was getting multiple championships...

But what he has done to the League and how it is starting to operate...Is it a good thing??? Is this a better league now???

IDK



Ishokace Sports

boring!!

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[red1]

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[kamil]

All the accolades LeBron* has attained since his collusion in 2010 are riddled with asterisks.

There's no way anyone can respect a cheating slut like that.

[zoom17]

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[jlip]

We all know how the great Decision changed the entire NBA league with the concept of a Big 3....

He took the top 3 scorers in the entire East and put them on one team....

2 LeBron James, SF CLE 29.7 ppg
5 Dwyane Wade, SG MIA 26.6
9 Chris Bosh, C TOR 24.0

They all were top ten in the League...but top 3 in East

Bosh was a very debateable to 10 player


- He made players not give a damn about Franchises and should be able just leave when there contract is up...
Players have been demanding trades for decades.


- He obviously destroyed the competition in the East, we are now seeing the true effects of this now because of how weak the East is...
The East was already weak. People were saying that the Lakers/Spurs/Kings playoff series were the true Finals as early as 2001 while Lebron was still in high school. Where was all of this complaining when the Showtime Lakers were coasting to the Finals during the 80's in a weak conference where they sometimes were facing sub .500 teams in the Conference Finals?


- He made it a league of Instant results and championships, meaning now if a team doesnt get results right away, coaches will be fired, stars will leave when contract is up and try and join other stars, leaving no true cohesiveness between players and coaches- New coaches means new system meaning to learning curve of system


True teams that build from smart draft pics and great young players is over---props to OKC though

- Now its all about stacking teams, and when stacks teams lose they change anything in a blink of an eye---someone has to lose...smh

I mean obviously he met his main goal which was getting multiple championships...

But what he has done to the League and how it is starting to operate...Is it a good thing??? Is this a better league now???

IDK



Ishokace Sports

There has never been parity in the league. The closest thing to an era of parity is the 1970's where there was no repeat champion, and most people consider that the low point of the NBA. Stacked teams and dynasties have always been a apart of the game.

[Straight_Ballin]

Good post OP. That's why this era of basketball is a joke.

[BasedTom]

All the accolades LeBron* has attained since his collusion in 2010 are riddled with asterisks.

There's no way anyone can respect a cheating slut like that.
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/1209/pg2_g_donaghy2_200.jpg

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/qjRcTiwVEwo/hqdefault.jpg

[red1]

All the accolades LeBron* has attained since his collusion in 2010 are riddled with asterisks.

There's no way anyone can respect a cheating slut like that.
bulls fan*

[Legends66NBA7]

Bosh was a very debateable to 10 player

I strongly disagree. Bosh has never been a Top 10-15 player.

[JUDGE WITNESS]

the effects it has had on your vag1na are even more astonishing

[ATL_Bball_King]

boring!!

http://www.sproutcontent.com/Portals/131912/images/boring.jpg



:oldlol: :oldlol:

Two pics though...lol...

[jlip]

I strongly disagree. Bosh has never been a Top 10-15 player.

Interesting...I know that this is not particularly an accurate indicator of a player's rank, but Bosh didn't even make the all NBA 3rd team in 2010. He actually has only one all NBA team to his name, and that is a 2nd team nomination in 2007.

[Hey Yo]

So the job of a GM is to never make moves? Just keep hoping to get top 5 picks so someday he can say "we're winning now because I did it the right way!!"

[red1]

:oldlol: :oldlol:

Two pics though...lol...
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[red1]

look what you doing bro

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[Legends66NBA7]

Interesting...I know that this is not particularly an accurate indicator of a player's rank, but Bosh didn't even make the all NBA 3rd team in 2010. He actually has only one all NBA team to his name, and that is a 2nd team nomination in 2007.

Indeed, he's never even been much MVP talks either. Also, he's actually lucky to be in the Eastern Conference as well. I doubt he would have became a 9x all-star if he was in the Western Conference.

07-09, I thought were better seasons from Bosh individually, because his defense was better. His defense was bad in 2010. He scored about 2 more points individually but he (along with the rest of his team) allowed the worst defense in the 2010.

[Warfan]

Bosh was never a top 10 player lol, even though I think u meant scorer.

I don't really blame miami for the east being really weak this year, the nets, bulls, miami and indiana were all suppose to be very good teams along with the knicks who won 55 games last year. Then the other 3 teams to make the playoffs probably would've been atlanta, toronto, and Washington who are pretty good teams. But injuries, collapsing and other things messed this up. I bet I could go back and find threads just before the start of the season, where people are claiming that the east is rejuvenated and much stronger than recent years.

[Mr. Jabbar]

The league is worse competition wise and his legacy has been tainted forever. Bad move imo.

[Rose'sACL]

at least boston and miami gave EAST two real contenders who could compete against western conf winners. i hope you remember those nets, sixers and cavs teams that made the finals.

[Legends66NBA7]

But injuries, collapsing and other things messed this up. I bet I could go back and find threads just before the start of the season, where people are claiming that the east is rejuvenated and much stronger than recent years.

I've seen them too and pretty much have said what you have. The East had a bad hand all through out the year.

[ATL_Bball_King]

look what you doing bro

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:oldlol: :oldlol:

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Ishokace Sports


Thanks for coming into my thread...only reason i made it about Lebron...lol


Please quote this...:lol

[ATL_Bball_King]

at least boston and miami gave EAST two real contenders who could compete against western conf winners. i hope you remember those nets, sixers and cavs teams that made the finals.


Nets with Kid, Sixers with AI, and Cavs with Bron...yea I do... Im asking is this a better league now...

[j3lademaster]

I must admit I rooted for Lebron to fail. I wasn't creepily living vicariously through Jason Terry rooting for him to fail, but I was pretty happy about that '11 chokejob. But '12 changed it. Dude faced must-wins against the Celtics and the Pacers as possibly the most scrutinized athlete of all time and came up big. Since '12 Wade and Bosh have been hugely overrated and Lebron, to me, has been the best in the world. I'm always going to dislike Lebron and the Heat, but he's earned my respect as a basketball player (don't care about how he is as a person).

My point here is: OP, what does Lebron have to do to earn an ounce of respect from you?

[ATL_Bball_King]

I must admit I rooted for Lebron to fail. I wasn't creepily living vicariously through Jason Terry rooting for him to fail, but I was pretty happy about that '11 chokejob. But '12 changed it. Dude faced must-wins against the Celtics and the Pacers as possibly the most scrutinized athlete of all time and came up big. Since '12 Wade and Bosh have been hugely overrated and Lebron, to me, has been the best in the world. I'm always going to dislike Lebron and the Heat, but he's earned my respect as a basketball player (don't care about how he is as a person).

My point here is: OP, what does Lebron have to do to earn an ounce of respect from you?


He has my respect...Will give it to him...He is the best in the World...Kobe fan will never be a Lebron fan though... But the point of this thread was asking did he make this a better league or worst league by being an MVP who joined up with other top players when NO ONE knew he was going to do this....

[red1]

Im actually in an office, with my work colleagues around...I am sleepy though...Im an Electrical Engineer on the computer while im running tests i sometimes get on ISH to...


promote my online business...also an entrepeneur...

Ishokace Sports


Thanks for coming into my thread...only reason i made it about Lebron...lol


Please quote this...:lol
:coleman: If if I was a lesser man I would report you for this blatant attention whoring. Consider yourself lucky w.e do what you gotta do

[Big Cheese]

the east has been weak for like the past decade. :lol Each year realistically only 2 to 3 teams had any chance of contending for a championship.

[moe94]

the effects it has had on your vag1na are even more astonishing
:roll:

[riseagainst]

he definitely changed the league. He's smart for sure. He made the East that much less competitive because after getting defeated in 08-10, he was getting tired of not getting past certain teams. He was determined to get to the finals time and time again.

He knew the West was stacked as sh1t, so he made sure it was easy for him and his team to cruise throughout the playoffs to the finals. Meanwhile, the WCF champs, after playing three 6 to 7 game series are tired and exhausted. It'll be that much easier for his team to win. The man is smart, taking all the advantage he can get.

[diamenz]

being the greatest player in the world carries a certain responsibility with it. flopping, colluding and whining like a baby isn't the best message to send to the next generation, and even the current one. if i had a kid, i wouldn't let him watch lebron.

[hahaitme]

This was years ago...why would they still have the same team...?? .And you right there cant be great draft players that come into a league and affect your team...This is obviously impossible

Cleveland had 6 years to get Bron some help, didn't happen.

[hawksdogsbraves]

the east has been weak for like the past decade. :lol Each year realistically only 2 to 3 teams had any chance of contending for a championship.

Only 2-3 teams in the entire NBA have any chance of contending for a championship most years anyway, what's your point? :confusedshrug:

[Leftimage]

- He made it a league of Instant results and championships, meaning now if a team doesnt get results right away, coaches will be fired, stars will leave when contract is up and try and join other stars, leaving no true cohesiveness between players and coaches- New coaches means new system meaning to learning curve of system

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Are you joking, dude? Lebron gave 7 years of prime-time playing career to a natural-born CANCER of a franchise. Re-signed with them in his PRIME. Abided by the rules drawn out in his contract. Didn't talk shit about his teammates, didn't cry for a trade.

stars have been joining stars in all sports leagues since the start of sports.

MJ - notoriously obsessed with front office decision - was thrilled when the already-stacked Bulls signed the league's best rebounder & defender.
The 80s Lakers & Celtics franchises had first-option players in every starting roster spot. To play for them you pretty much had to be all-star material.
Shaq signed with the Lakers with the specific intent of winning chips. He wanted to be surrounded with more talent.

Every free agent that has ever signed with a new team has had the same thought process as Lebron. Kobe had that same thought process as Lebron THE DAY HE WAS DRAFTED for christ's sake.

Gotta get them rings. The greats know that.

[sd3035]

Bran made flopping a first option on offense and defense

[Young X]

the effects it has had on your vag1na are even more astonishing:oldlol:

[pauk]

Around the recent decade its actually Garnett/Pierce/Allen/Rondo to blame for that "changing of the league".... which actually is not a change, guys teaming up or guys having stacked teams & so on has been going on since NBA started, they all form one way or the other...

[BlkMambaGOAT]

:oldlol: :oldlol:

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promote my online business...also an entrepeneur...

Ishokace Sports


Thanks for coming into my thread...only reason i made it about Lebron...lol


Please quote this...:lol

:cheers:

Ignore the haters. I'm glad to see at least one person intelligent in this forum (unless ur BSing ur job).

STEM majors for the win.:rockon:

Haters can stay salty. They'll need it, I don't want my fries to be stale.:lol