Is deron williams still a superstar?

[JohnMax]

Stats (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2798/deron-williams)

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[Mr. Jabbar]

he is not only not a superstar, he is choker like i've never seen before. above howard/harden level. and when i say above, i mean below

[navy]

No. Was he ever a superstar? I think he was just a star

[Bernkastel]

I wouldn't start him next game.

[Mr. Jabbar]

game 7 raptors-nets, bkn up by 1 like 15 secs or less: nets need to inbound the ball and this guy HIDES behind raps players not to get the ball, they end up turning it over and if aint for alpha pierce last sec block they lose the series

[imdaman99]

DWill + Plumlee for Westbrook. He will be more than happy to pass the ball all game

[Jameerthefear]

DWill + Plumlee for Westbrook. He will be more than happy to pass the ball all game
Thunder laugh in your face.

[tgan3]

No. Was he ever a superstar? I think he was just a star

people were debating him and cp3 as best point guard a few years back

[secund2nun]

guard? check

low efficiency? check

big name? check

playing in the playoffs? check

He is a superstar

-Signed most NBA fans

[TheReal Kendall]

people were debating him and cp3 as best point guard a few years back

I ain't gonna even lie, I was one of those people that would take him over CP3.

Dude was a beast back when he played for the Jazz.

[livingby3's]

I ain't gonna even lie, I was one of those people that would take him over CP3.

Dude was a beast back when he played for the Jazz.

I as well. Always put him above CP due to the size advantage he brings. But damn what a dropoff since.

[HylianNightmare]

Nope hasn't been since utah

[Random_Guy]

I as well. Always put him above CP due to the size advantage he brings. But damn what a dropoff since.
This
I thought he would bring it once he got to the nets, my god was I wrong

[Adrenalynn]

Stats (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2798/deron-williams)

http://i.imgur.com/UWSRmui.png

How is he a superstar when he will never be an all-star again?

[JohnFreeman]

He was never a superstar

[smoovegittar]

Is he rubbing his ankles yet? His star faded when he left the Jazz.

[JohnMax]

D-Will was considered a superstar.

-Brooklyn and New York couldn't decide whether to go for him or Carmelo Anthony.
-Dwight Howard wanted to play with him.
-He was CP3's main rival and considered a borderline top 10 player.
-He got Jerry Sloan fired.
-He was ranked top 10 in fantasy basketball

Those are all hallmarks of a superstar.

[Mr. Jabbar]

-Dwight Howard wanted to play with him.


wow, howard rlly knows how to pick his partners; beta? check.

[bizil]

D-Will was considered a superstar.

-Brooklyn and New York couldn't decide whether to go for him or Carmelo Anthony.
-Dwight Howard wanted to play with him.
-He was CP3's main rival and considered a borderline top 10 player.
-He got Jerry Sloan fired.
-He was ranked top 10 in fantasy basketball

Those are all hallmarks of a superstar.

I agree! D Will when healthy was indeed a superstar. And let's not forget he won 2 gold medals in the Olympics as well on top of it. Skill for skill, D Will at his best was the premier PG in the L along with Paul. But D Will is 6'3 or 6'4 and 210 pounds. Making him more versatile than Paul. He's a better floor general than Westbrook and Rose as well. He's one of the guys like Magic, Big O, Isiah, Nash, Tiny, Payton, and Frazier who think pass first but ALSO has alpha dog level scoring skills.

[Uncle Drew]

He was never a superstar to begin with.

[imdaman99]

I agree! D Will when healthy was indeed a superstar. And let's not forget he won 2 gold medals in the Olympics as well on top of it. Skill for skill, D Will at his best was the premier PG in the L along with Paul. But D Will is 6'3 or 6'4 and 210 pounds. Making him more versatile than Paul. He's a better floor general than Westbrook and Paul as well. He's one of the guys like Magic, Big O, Isiah, Nash, Tiny, Payton, and Frazier who think pass first but ALSO has alpha dog level scoring skills.
Sounds like a scouting report... in 2010

[houston]

he is a bum

[iznogood]

I agree! D Will when healthy was indeed a superstar. And let's not forget he won 2 gold medals in the Olympics as well on top of it. Skill for skill, D Will at his best was the premier PG in the L along with Paul. But D Will is 6'3 or 6'4 and 210 pounds. Making him more versatile than Paul. He's a better floor general than Westbrook and Paul as well. He's one of the guys like Magic, Big O, Isiah, Nash, Tiny, Payton, and Frazier who think pass first but ALSO has alpha dog level scoring skills.
He's nowhere near being a better floor general than Chris Paul in my opinion. I could understand somebody arguing him being better floor general than Westbrook, but I never considered him a passing first point guard. I think that's why the level of his playing declined along with his athletic abilities.

[Kingsfans818]

Mike Conley is better

[Relinquish]

He was never a superstar to begin with.

Okay now you're just in denial :facepalm

[Legends66NBA7]

When was he considered a superstar ? It can't be when he was with the Nets.

[crawdaddy4ou]

Superstar??? Never was. There is only two superstars in the league right now.

[IncarceratedBob]

He was never that good, he was a mere product of the Jerry Sloan offensive system. He contributed nothing to the Olympic teams he was on.

[LongLiveTheKing]

He always misses clutch fts

[CelticBaller]

Dude was always trash, overrated because of the Sloan system.

[Uncle Drew]

Okay now you're just in denial :facepalm
Is garbage, has always been garbage. The only reason he's in the league is because of Sloan.

[josh99]

He was never that good, he was a mere product of the Jerry Sloan offensive system. He contributed nothing to the Olympic teams he was on.
Because the Olympic teams mean anything :facepalm. Also thats like when they used to say that Dwight is only a good rebounder because the Magic shoot lots of threes.

[Relinquish]

Is garbage, has always been garbage. The only reason he's in the league is because of Sloan.

So even if Sloan made him great, was he not still great? That's like saying Nash was only great because of D'antoni. :facepalm

[Smoke117]

He was never a "superstar"..the fact that you stupid ***** kids at one time thought this nobody was a superstar as you gave you respect to John Stockton who was averaging 14-17ppg 10-14apg and 2-3.5spg is no star just shows how ****ing stupid and racist you are. I suppose Stock wasn't that good since he as white eh? Stupid ****ing ******s who are so pathetic that they have to give their identity to a game and put down those others against their race who were just as great at the sport they glorify. Ignorance at it's finest and pathetic.

[CelticBaller]

I want to see D-will accomplishments outside of the jazz


guy was trash, you 2 are in denial

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Mike Conley is better
mike conley is an even bigger choker.
if the guy had any clutchness the grizz would be battling the clippers right now

[Shep]

lol at these losers who started watching the nba this year claiming williams was never a superstar. williams had a run from '08 to '10 when he was a top 2 point guard twice and a top 3 point guard once.

[Cowboy Thunder]

lol at these losers who started watching the nba this year claiming williams was never a superstar. williams had a run from '08 to '10 when he was a top 2 point guard twice and a top 3 point guard once.
:cheers:

[sodapop]

He was once a up & coming superstar. Now it's all fizzle in a time capsule buried in a Mormon cemetery in Utah.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

OFC not WTF:roll: :roll: is he even top 10 at his position anymore:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[CelticBaller]

lol at these losers who started watching the nba this year claiming williams was never a superstar. williams had a run from '08 to '10 when he was a top 2 point guard twice and a top 3 point guard once.
never a superstar

[Shep]

never a superstar
actually he was. give me reasons why he was not a superstar in 2010 and I will gladly destroy you

[christian1923]

Deron Williams Is a bottom 10 point guard in the league. He's terrible.

[CelticBaller]

actually he was. give me reasons why he was not a superstar in 2010 and I will gladly destroy you
destroy me? tf you are talking about?

the dude lived off sloans system, the fact that he hasn't done shit outside the jazz is all the proof i need

[Shep]

destroy me? tf you are talking about?

the dude lived off sloans system, the fact that he hasn't done shit outside the jazz is all the proof i need
what a pathetic statement. we are talking about what he did in 2010 here, and you are saying that what he does on his next teams can diminish what he accomplished on his previous team? gtfo you loser.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Deron Williams Is a bottom 10 point guard in the league. He's terrible.

Is he even top 10:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

CP3
Steph
Westbrook
Parker
Wall
Lillard
Lowry
Conley
Goran

are all better.............then u got nikkas like Kyrie, Lawson etc etc

[CelticBaller]

what a pathetic statement. we are talking about what he did in 2010 here, and you are saying that what he does on his next teams can diminish what he accomplished on his previous team? gtfo you loser.
what accomplishments? did the dude win a ring or an mvp? am i missing something here?

[Shep]

what accomplishments? did the dude win a ring or an mvp? am i missing something here?
so there is nothing to accomplish if you don't win a championship or mvp? more tremendous logic.

2008 accomplishments:
- led his team to 54 regular season wins
- defeated 55 win houston rockets in western conference first round
- all-nba second team member
- averaged 18.8ppg, 3.0rpg, 10.5apg, 1.1spg, on 60%TS in the regular season
- averaged 21.6ppg, 3.6rpg, 10.0apg, 0.6spg, on 51%TS in the playoffs
- top 2 point guard
- top 10 overall

2009 accomplishements:
- led his team to 48 regular season wins
- forced into a match up with eventual champion and 65 win laker team in the playoffs, succumbing 4-1 (williams played great)
- averaged 19.4ppg, 2.9rpg, 10.7apg, 1.1spg, on 57%TS in the regular season
- averaged 20.2ppg, 3.8rpg, 10.8apg, 1.8spg, on 57%TS in the playoffs
- top 3 point guard
- top 9 overall

2010 accomplishments
- led his team to 53 regular season wins
- defeated 4 seed denver nuggets in the first round
- all nba second team member
- averaged 18.7ppg, 4.0rpg, 10.5apg, 1.2spg, on 57%TS in the regular season
- averaged 24.3ppg, 2.7rpg, 10.2apg, 1.0spg, on 61%TS in the playoffs
- top 2 point guard
- top 7 overall

[bizil]

He's nowhere near being a better floor general than Chris Paul in my opinion. I could understand somebody arguing him being better floor general than Westbrook, but I never considered him a passing first point guard. I think that's why the level of his playing declined along with his athletic abilities.

I meant to put Rose instead of Paul, that's my mistake lol! But I do consider D-Will at his best a pass first point guard. He put up FOUR STRAIGHT YEARS of 10+ assists in Utah. His level of play is declining simply due to not being healthy. That has nothing to do with his mentality. He proved LONG AGO he was a pass first PG AND alpha scorer for a PG in one.

[oarabbus]

Deron Williams greatest career moment was beginning Linsanity

[stalkerforlife]

Jerry Sloan's system really helped him a great deal.

Dude bucked the wrong coach.

[bluechox2]

livingston has surpassed deron...nets are still a fool thinking hes all there

if kidd was smart...hed take his dick out of deron and bench him over livingston

[dunksby]

He was never a superstar or you all have a very loose and easy to achieve definition of one.

[therammingman]

F no

[bizil]

I think some of you guys are delusional on here! As of now, D-Will isn't playing like a superstar due to health issues. But the key is will he bounce back to that status. Anytime u are argued as possibly the best PG in a league full of awesome PG's, make two Olympic teams, and put up the numbers he did when healthy, u have a great case to be a superstar. These are the things he accomplished BEFORE the injury shit. So if he wasn't a superstar at his best, he was certainly the tier RIGHT UNDER IT! With room to grow and become that superstar.

However, I think D-Will at his best is a superstar level PG. Right there with Paul, a healthy Rose, Curry, Parker, and Westbrook. And in the Stockton kind of sense, a healthy Rondo is a superstar. And frankly, if your career merits HOF kind of consideration, that's enough right there. If u can say u make the Hall of Fame, that says it all right there. From a production standpoint, D-Will's first few years in the L stacked up to many PG's in the HOF. Hell there aren't TEN PG'S EVER who have averaged 20 points and 10 dimes in a season. U just have Magic, Big O, Isiah, Tim Hardaway, KJ, Paul, Tiny, and D-Will!

[Mr. Jabbar]

damn, lets stop talking about this fkn loser it makes me sick

[The JKidd Kid]

damn, lets stop talking about this fkn loser it makes me sick

I agree. Worst contract in the league.

[salwan]

he is not only not a superstar, he is choker like i've never seen before. above howard/harden level. and when i say above, i mean below

:applause:

he was never a superstar. a star at best.

[Jlamb47]

Not anymore but he was a few years back. His injury is what pushed him back some. Before injury he was an elite scorer and floor general. Everyone hating on him. He was probably the best PG along wiht CP3 when with Jazz, he was taking his team to playoffs as an un experience team

[BlazerRed]

Deron hasn't been a star for YEARS..

[CelticBaller]

so there is nothing to accomplish if you don't win a championship or mvp? more tremendous logic.

2008 accomplishments:
- led his team to 54 regular season wins
- defeated 55 win houston rockets in western conference first round
- all-nba second team member
- averaged 18.8ppg, 3.0rpg, 10.5apg, 1.1spg, on 60%TS in the regular season
- averaged 21.6ppg, 3.6rpg, 10.0apg, 0.6spg, on 51%TS in the playoffs
- top 2 point guard
- top 10 overall

2009 accomplishements:
- led his team to 48 regular season wins
- forced into a match up with eventual champion and 65 win laker team in the playoffs, succumbing 4-1 (williams played great)
- averaged 19.4ppg, 2.9rpg, 10.7apg, 1.1spg, on 57%TS in the regular season
- averaged 20.2ppg, 3.8rpg, 10.8apg, 1.8spg, on 57%TS in the playoffs
- top 3 point guard
- top 9 overall

2010 accomplishments
- led his team to 53 regular season wins
- defeated 4 seed denver nuggets in the first round
- all nba second team member
- averaged 18.7ppg, 4.0rpg, 10.5apg, 1.2spg, on 57%TS in the regular season
- averaged 24.3ppg, 2.7rpg, 10.2apg, 1.0spg, on 61%TS in the playoffs
- top 2 point guard
- top 7 overall

You keep pulling these rankings as if they're facts and not your biased opinion :roll:

Also his stats, like most people in this thread said, were really inflated by the sloan system. The only accomplishment I see here being in the all nba second team, which he won because D Wade didn't play enough games

[dunksby]

You keep pulling these rankings as if they're facts and not your biased opinion :roll:

Also his stats, like most people in this thread said, were really inflated by the sloan system. The only accomplishment I see here being in the all nba second team, which he won because D Wade didn't play enough games
A superstar without an all-NBA first team in 9 years.

[CelticBaller]

A superstar without an all-NBA first team in 9 years.
Superstar tho :applause:

[DuMa]

is Kemba better than Deron now? i mean Kemba at least put up 18ppg vs the heat in the first round

[Shep]

You keep pulling these rankings as if they're facts and not your biased opinion
biased? :roll: how are my facts biased? facts are facts

Also his stats, like most people in this thread said, were really inflated by the sloan system. The only accomplishment I see here being in the all nba second team, which he won because D Wade didn't play enough games
more trash. so if jerry sloan was coaching the nets, williams would be just as good as he was in those years? :roll: pitiful

[CelticBaller]

biased? :roll: how are my facts biased? facts are facts

more trash. so if jerry sloan was coaching the nets, williams would be just as good as he was in those years? :roll: pitiful
Wait, so you really believe your rankings are facts? I'm done :oldlol:

[Shep]

I'm done
probably the best possible outcome for yourself, only came about 2 or 3 posts after it should have.

[iBandwagon]

Stats (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2798/deron-williams)

http://i.imgur.com/UWSRmui.png

:lol

[IMObjective]

A superstar is a player with star power so great that it transcends the sport. even people who don't care about the nba and basketball know who the superstars are. These players usually have multiple tangible accomplishments (hardware). Deron never was a true superstar, but he was definitely on track to become one. I had such mad respect for his game during the utah years and thought for sure he would be a superstar one day. if Utah Deron was on the nets right now that team would surely look very different. Watch out heat and pacers.

[Knicks2014champ]

Is Kwame brown still a superstar? :facepalm

[CelticBaller]

probably the best possible outcome for yourself, only came about 2 or 3 posts after it should have.
like anything you posted prooved that he was a superstar. You only posted your stupid rankings, inflated stats and a ****ing all nba 2nd team :oldlol:


never been in the 1st team but he's a superstar yall :applause:

Oh man you're a fvcking idiot :roll:

[Legends66NBA7]

never been in the 1st team but he's a superstar yall :applause:

Would you say Carmelo Anthony is a superstar ?

[mehyaM24]

overrated pos. i actually feel bad for pierce....

[GimmeThat]

If you could tell me why pairing him with Joe Johnson, instead of a player like Sefolosha is a great idea, we might be able to find out.

[NuggetsFan]

Superstar tho :applause:

Depends what your definition of a superstar is. Unless you just started watching basketball you'd realize he was easily top 2 at his position by the vast majority and was even deemed to be the best PG at some point, even if just for stretches.

The fact that he had some success in the playoff pushes him over for me. Wasn't just a guy throwing up numbers on lottery teams but had that one run that year and than got out of the 1st round 2x. While putting up pretty great numbers.

Wasn't for long but I'd say he peaked as a top 5-8 player. I remember him being right there with Carmelo and believing Melo was better as a Nugget but seeing the case for D-Will being better, which alot believed for the record.

Was a superstar at one point, not close anymore and wasn't for that long when you look back at it.

[Bandito]

To answer OP question. NO since hes been on the Nets. Mostly due to injuries to his ******.

[Shep]

like anything you posted prooved that he was a superstar. You only posted your stupid rankings, inflated stats and a ****ing all nba 2nd team


never been in the 1st team but he's a superstar yall

Oh man you're a fvcking idiot
this loser was supposed to stop posting :roll: