Charlie Z gets his ass beat by Deontay Wilder

[Wally450]

http://www.tmz.com/2014/05/09/deontay-wilder-boxer-beats-the-hell-out-of-cyber-bully/

This guy is delusional.

[Akrazotile]

http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1384/26/1384265724205.jpg

[Godzuki]

who does Charlie Z win against to have the ego he does?

his fighting style is awful. all he does is try these haymakers that always miss and then runs away or goes down by himself so he doesn't get hit. he's so afraid of getting hit i don't really get how he even pretends to be a boxer or fighter at all. does he watch his own videos at all? thats not boxing or fighting, thats more like taking a 1 in a million attempt at a KO then stoppinig the fight until its reset so he can try the same thing again. I swear every Charlie Z fight i've watched is where he's so afraid to get hit he just stops the fight or goes down himself once his opponent goes on the offensive.

not even hating because he's entertaining to me with this crazy stuff he does, but it annoys me a lot how he fights then talks like he's a real fighter.

that Wilder dude does seem like a nice guy, so Charlie Z must've talked a lot of crap to get him that pissed. he's so much bigger than CharlieZ tho.

[D-FENS]

http://www.tmz.com/2014/05/09/deontay-wilder-boxer-beats-the-hell-out-of-cyber-bully/

This guy is delusional.

Damn you! I just saw this on my facebook feed and was coming to post. You're fast!

I'm happy one of our ISH brethren has made it big :roll:

[oh the horror]

Charlie made it to tmz huh? Wow lol


Even at the end of the video after he full on gets put down, he's still talking shit. "I'm still the best".


He'll go home saying he won that fight and claim to be 500-0 or some ridiculous nonsense. That dude has severe mental problems and he's lucky to keep facing up with people who show mercy. Sooner or later someone is going to break his face. He's a coward.

[D-FENS]

At the end:
"I'm still the best."

**** Wilder's trainers. They should have let him continue to pummel him.

[D-FENS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gkk1KoDj4k#t=94

Look at Charlie's phone. Boy is big time now

[El Kabong]

This guy is either the GREATEST troll on the planet who'll literally get knocked out for his art, or so delusional that not even an ass kicking will knock him back to reality.

[fiddy]

This guy is either the GREATEST troll on the planet who'll literally get knocked out for his art, or so delusional that not even an ass kicking will knock him back to reality.
Either way not worth my time. Dude is pathetic

[East_Stone_Ya]

either a great troll or mentally ill

[DeuceWallaces]

You would think after that first left hook he would have realized his error. I know I would have.

[Wally450]

Damn you! I just saw this on my facebook feed and was coming to post. You're fast!

I'm happy one of our ISH brethren has made it big :roll:

I saw it on Reddit right after I left here so I knew no one had posted it lol

[nathanjizzle]

i wonder what he was like as a poster. im sure that some of the guys on here have the same delusional mentality he does.

[qrich]

Wasn't it confirmed that Z was a dude who dropped out of acting class because everyone said he'd make a great real life troll?

[miller-time]

Simplest explanation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

[D-FENS]

i wonder what he was like as a poster. im sure that some of the guys on here have the same delusional mentality he does.

He was a damn fool.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=156931

I think his first username was completely banned here - I can't find anything. Only his Mihmus account. He was around for a long time threatening people here. He told me he was going to kill me, and there was some shit with him and LamarDoom as well. Guy was a nutjob.

[El Kabong]

You would think after that first left hook would have realized his error. I know I would have.
It wouldn't have even gotten to that point for me, just looking at the guy would be enough for me not to **** with him.

[D-FENS]

It wouldn't have even gotten to that point for me, just looking at the guy would be enough for me not to **** with him.

The words of intelligent people. Charlie Z was calling him a ****** and making fun of his daughter with spina bifida.....

[ItsMillerTime]

Surprised this dude hasn't been killed yet.

[BoogieWoogieMan]

I heard Charlie's planning an ISH comeback.

We are not worthy! :bowdown:

[Wally450]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wc_9_fjjnw

this sh*t had me in tears laughing :roll: :roll:

[PistonsFan#21]

damn whats wrong with this dude?? :facepalm

hes challenging a heavyweight champ thats 31-0 with all his 31 wins coming by way of knockout.

I guess he was serious when he said he wants to fight with the Klitschko brothers. Not sure if he has the heart of a lion or if hes just that delusionnal

[rezznor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gkk1KoDj4k#t=94

Look at Charlie's phone. Boy is big time now



Stream

Charlie Zelenoff8 hours ago

you haters got proven wrong so many times i mean come on 1 loss and 55 wins ? you bitches are finished i will KO wilder in the rematch 

still at it :oldlol: :facepalm

[Godzuki]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wc_9_fjjnw

this sh*t had me in tears laughing :roll: :roll:


that was some of the worst boxers even for amateurs i've ever watched. How does that guy even have a belt that won? he was terrible.

and CharlieZ...i've NEVER seen a fighter so afraid of being hit. dude is so scared to get hit its basically like he quits in half his matches in fear of getting hit.

:facepalm

[FPJ]

I heard Charlie's planning an ISH comeback.

Lol, he posted on this site? :roll:

Used to talk shit all day on ESB years ago calling people out and most of them called his bluff and he backed out. It was hilarious and sad at the same time seeing that guy live his life. Im pretty sure he was on drugs and went to jail a few times.

[gts]

I was surprised to see he's he's still alive...

[rezznor]

Lol, he posted on this site? :roll:

Used to talk shit all day on ESB years ago calling people out and most of them called his bluff and he backed out. It was hilarious and sad at the same time seeing that guy live his life. Im pretty sure he was on drugs and went to jail a few times.
yeah he was here way back in the day. pretty much acted the same here as he did at ESB except he also claimed to be elite at basketball.

he would make a bunch of videos, we would clown him, he would have a mental breakdown and threaten to kill everyone, get banned, and would eventually return under a new username. rinse repeat. happened so many times i lost count.

[GOBB]

What a sad individual. The stuff people do nowadays.


I was surprised to see he's he's still alive...

Yeah, figured with the whole do it for the vine, social media video frenzy. Someone would have did something drastic to him. But then again he still may be unknown. This kind of video tho is going to go viral and maybe he will try to ride that for as long as he can. By getting the attention of others.

[ROCSteady]

This shit is golden.

Charlie was that dude to entertain. I remember his 'documentary' lmfao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4ofPHgghXQ

[Jameerthefear]

Didn't Charlie Z post here?

[El Kabong]

Didn't Charlie Z post here?
Used to ages ago. LamarDoom used to film some of his exploits for a while too, I believe.

[DonDadda59]

How the hell does this keep happening? :oldlol:

Charlie doesn't know the difference between a jab and a hook, has a 'professional' record 0-1 (by embarrassing TKO to a 'boxer' wit a 1-13 record) and looks to be about 150 lbs soaking wet. Yet he's somehow become an internet sensation, had a sparring match with Floyd Mayweather Sr, and now just went viral when he got slapped around by a 6'7" 31-0 (31 KO) former bronze medal winning Olympian and HW championship contender.

Say what you will about the man, but his will to greatness is something to behold :bowdown:

[mr.big35]

his a smart man to run away from that fight

[robert de niro]

who the hell are these people

[Canelo_Griffin]

Wow Wilder is a dumbass for going along with this. All this footage does is prove how his last KO against Malik Scott was staged.

How can this skinny ass charlie guy take more of a beating and still have the capacity to keep talking shit after those punches, while Scott's Godzilla ass gets KO' the fk out after the 2 first punches of the fight

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/4143527/Deontay_Wilder_vs._Malik_Scott_2.gif

:facepalm

[oh the horror]

What's funny is the amount of shit he talks only to time and time again shrivel up and lay down when anyone confronts him in person.

[The_Night_Elf]

Please let this guy come back. Charlie Z threads are some of my all time faves.:bowdown:

[DonDadda59]

Wow Wilder is a dumbass for going along with this. All this footage does is prove how his last KO against Malik Scott was staged.

How can this skinny ass charlie guy take more of a beating and still have the capacity to keep talking shit after those punches, while Scott's Godzilla ass gets KO' the fk out after the 2 first punches of the fight

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/4143527/Deontay_Wilder_vs._Malik_Scott_2.gif

:facepalm

That 'KO' was... questionable to say the least :lol

But Wilder has decent KO power (even though he's been feasting on tomato cans): http://youtu.be/-e-qyzZwV7k?t=2m42s

I doubt he was trying to do serious damage to the Z man, just slap him around a little. He was wearing sparring gloves and it looks like both of them were right handed too.

[oh the horror]

Anyone see the video at the bottom when they actually get in the ring?


Charlie attempts a cheap shot while dude is stepping into the ring and then runs for the door.


This is multiple times now where he has punched someone when their back is turned or preoccupied. Charlie is the WORST type of coward. They're so fu*king scared that they're the type to stab you in the back when you're not ready or get a gun because he's too afraid to fight but has some delusional ego problem along with various mental issues.


That dude annoys me.

[Take Your Lumps]

The Andy Kaufman of boxing, ladies and gentlemen :applause:

He's lucky Wilder missed with that uppercut while he was sitting on the ground...he'd be eating food through a straw for the rest of his life.

[Im so nba'd out]

i use to ignore this threads when he posted thinking it was all lies :facepalm

[Canelo_Griffin]

That 'KO' was... questionable to say the least :lol

But Wilder has decent KO power (even though he's been feasting on tomato cans): http://youtu.be/-e-qyzZwV7k?t=2m42s

I doubt he was trying to do serious damage to the Z man, just slap him around a little. He was wearing sparring gloves and it looks like both of them were right handed too.

I don't think that trying to uppercut someone full-power when they are down qualifies as slapping someone around :oldlol:

You're right he does have good power but I clearly remember watching the live broadcast of the fight and one of the commentators was just saying how both boxers were good friends when boom! the KO happened...I remember it raised a red flag in my mind and sure enough they showed the replay and the whole thing seemed fishy.

I can't find video of the actual fight just a highlight from Showtime on youtube where Malignaggi is talking at the moment of the KO, but Malignaggi's comments seemed to be edited in, as in Malignaggi's commentary was edited in in order to replace the commentary about both boxers being friends...seems weird to me

I could be wrong but that's what I remember.

[kentatm]

You would think after that first left hook he would have realized his error. I know I would have.


he should have realized his error 5 years ago when he was getting his ass kicked by no name scrubs at gyms and posting youtube love letters to Kim K.

[Done_And_Done]

...

[zoom17]

Deontay Wilder went easy on his ass he should have pounded him.

[Done_And_Done]

Fast forward to 1:33 for Wilder's comments on this whole thing lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4Cx0cLqpOY

[FPJ]

yeah he was here way back in the day. pretty much acted the same here as he did at ESB except he also claimed to be elite at basketball.

he would make a bunch of videos, we would clown him, he would have a mental breakdown and threaten to kill everyone, get banned, and would eventually return under a new username. rinse repeat. happened so many times i lost count.

Standard Charlie :roll: . I would link some great threads from ESB but they deleted the lounge. He talked so much shit to a user and said he would do this and that...until said user posted his boxing routine and named a time and place (i remember they were in the same city at the time). Charlie went ghost for a few then came back shouting that he was ducked :roll: .

I remember he tried to fight Mayweather SR and fantasized he was in a relationship or something like that with Kim K. Dude was insane :oldlol: .

[BigBoss]

Jokes over this guy needs help before he gets himself killed. Serious.

[Undisputed]

Charlie Z is a special kind of troll, man. How many people lure a pro athlete into this sort of thing? It's brilliant. Who cares if he's nuts or not, his body of work has been epic.

[DonDadda59]

Charlie Z is a special kind of troll, man. How many people lure a pro athlete into this sort of thing? It's brilliant. Who cares if he's nuts or not, his body of work has been epic.

I'm saying :applause:

No idea how he pulls this shit off. Anyone can scrap with some internet clowns on the streets. But this dude sparred with Floyd Mayweather Sr and just went toe to toe with an undefeated 6'7" HW champion/Olympic medalist.

That's HOF material right there. Brilliant stuff.

[DeuceWallaces]

Yeah but he's not a troll. He has serious mental health problems and delusions of grandeur.

[alenleomessi]

dude even made it on eurosport frontpage :oldlol:
https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/the-pugilist/racist-troll-challenges-unbeaten-boxer-fight-gets-mauled-212417655.html

[CelticBaller]

Lol this bitch tried to sucker punch wilder when he was getting in the ring :oldlol:

Looks like he didn't learn shit from his spar with mayweather sr

[kentatm]

here, go ahead and feed into his insanity on youtube

theres tons of stuff still up

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=charlie+z

[Done_And_Done]

.......

[KingBeasley08]

Dude ran as soon as the fight started :oldlol:

[RedBlackAttack]

There were some classic threads back in the day of Lamar Doom amping up Charlie Z. Then, if I recall correctly, they turned on one another. Lamar showed up at a few of his "events" and would provide pics/videos.

For a while, I really did think the Charlie Z thing was a contrived persona, but Lamar has seen the cat up close and personal. He assured us that this is no put-on and the fact that he's still at it all these years later is a testament to that. He has some real mental dysfunction going on.

At least he's actually admitting defeat this time. He is still claiming that he "beat" Mayweather Sr. after getting beaten up and scrambling out of the ring that time, as well.

What a train wreck.

[RedBlackAttack]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbo5t_n04pc

:roll:


How much is he paying that dude to act like those punches are getting through/hurting?

[Styles p]

he should have realized his error 5 years ago when he was getting his ass kicked by no name scrubs at gyms and posting youtube love letters to Kim K.
i forgot about him and kim k hahahahahahaha he bought high heels and acted like he was gonna give them to her. :roll: :oldlol:

[andremiller07]

Wilder was nice if he wanted to he literally could have ended his life, he didn't even throw hard.

[RedBlackAttack]

i forgot about him and kim k hahahahahahaha he bought high heels and acted like he was gonna give them to her. :roll: :oldlol:
As did I. Let's take a stroll down memory lane, shall we?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBNbpa-dV44

[bdreason]

Embarrassing that the gym would even allow that to happen.

[RedBlackAttack]

Embarrassing that the gym would even allow that to happen.
I felt that way about the Mayweather Sr. thing, and he's a 60+ year old trainer. For Wilder to go to this extent -- signing contracts and sh!t?

That's just embarrassing, as you said. It knocked Wilder down a few pegs in the way I look at him as a fan of the sweet science.

And, quite frankly, the fact that they did all of the contracts and Wilder actually put on gloves and squared up, the fact that Charlie Z was not knocked completely unconscious is also kind of pathetic. If you're going to go to those lengths, go all the way with it and just end him.

[Done_And_Done]

As did I. Let's take a stroll down memory lane, shall we?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBNbpa-dV44

RBA - after a bit of clicking, that link eventually led me to this disaster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d4YT0N93bU

Charlie.... Get help dude... Seriously

[RedBlackAttack]

RBA - after a bit of clicking, that link eventually led me to this disaster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d4YT0N93bU

Charlie.... Get help dude... Seriously
:wtf:

Dude is a little scary. Not in a physical way, but in a mall shooting kind of way.

[Done_And_Done]

:wtf:

Dude is a little scary. Not in a physical way, but in a mall shooting kind of way.

I hate to say it, but his story has all the makings of such tragic endings. If that BoxingRec website was an actual place, he probably would have gone postal on it years ago.

The kid needs all sorts of help. All jokes aside, I hope he gets it before he self destructs.

[gts]

As did I. Let's take a stroll down memory lane, shall we?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBNbpa-dV44

Some day he's going to post a video and he'll be wearing a straight jacket in a padded room

[Done_And_Done]

And then there was this;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bttgy8BhwKw

[East_Stone_Ya]

And then there was this;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bttgy8BhwKw

damn he needs help asap

[East_Stone_Ya]

He has also chickened out of dozens of fights and is known in the LA area for frequenting gay bars.His wiki page, which was a correct analysis of his life was actually deleted by a wikipedia as the moderators assumed that it simply couldn't be a real person.He will never have a proper fight again,and will remain 0-1 forever.



He is obsessed with goats, that's all he thinks of day and night, someone once posted a video on youtube of him actually blowing a goat but it was removed due to violating youtube policies.
Do NOT allow your children to watch him online he is very disturbed young person..
Source(s):
Youtube, eastside boxing and Some sex with animals website..

:oldlol:

[oh the horror]

Him outside in the middle of the night screaming at the top of his lungs about Nicki minaj and punching himself In another video was disturbing.

[andremiller07]

I felt that way about the Mayweather Sr. thing, and he's a 60+ year old trainer. For Wilder to go to this extent -- signing contracts and sh!t?

That's just embarrassing, as you said. It knocked Wilder down a few pegs in the way I look at him as a fan of the sweet science.

And, quite frankly, the fact that they did all of the contracts and Wilder actually put on gloves and squared up, the fact that Charlie Z was not knocked completely unconscious is also kind of pathetic. If you're going to go to those lengths, go all the way with it and just end him.
Nah if anything it showed Wilder is a decent guy he literally could have killed Charlie with one punch and Charlie would have never remember what happend. I'm shocked he was able to control himself after the guy talked shit about his sick daughter.

This was basically the boxing version of bully beatdown the TV show where they got a fighter to beat up (without murdering) a bully and normally at the end of the show the bully realises he's a dick and says sorry but sadly Charlie is beyond stupid. Props to Wilder for teaching the guy a lesson and not being a complete animal and losing control which he could have done easily and most people would have given the circumstances.

[Take Your Lumps]

Does anyone still have that video of Charlie showing off his broke ass jumpshot? :roll:

[CasterL]

Used to think the z train was hilarious with all that lamar doom stuff. Looks like he actually needs serious help after those vids. I was unsure if he was trolling in the past but there is no way the troll runs this deep. If it does he deserves an oscar for that method acting.

[magic chiongson]

deontay wilder stepping up in competition :applause::applause::applause:


btw is lamar doom still around? how is ish's resident part-time hollywood actor? :rockon:

[cos88]

who? & who?

[East_Stone_Ya]

deontay wilder stepping up in competition :applause::applause::applause:


btw is lamar doom still around? how is ish's resident part-time hollywood actor? :rockon:

yeah he still is, posts rap songs from time to time

[$LakerGold]

Charlie Z reminds me of plowking. Both have similar personalities. lol

I remember when Charlie Z posted a video of him talking shit about Lamar Doom while hitting the pads. haha.

[Done_And_Done]

....

[RedBlackAttack]

deontay wilder stepping up in competition :applause::applause::applause:


btw is lamar doom still around? how is ish's resident part-time hollywood actor? :rockon:
He's still around. I'm surprised he hasn't shown up in this thread yet.

[RedBlackAttack]

I would love to see one of those videos where he called out the whole board.

"Sup insidehoop mother f*uckers"

"I have a professional record of 0 and 0"
Ask and ye shall receive. This is actually semi-new. The Mayweather Sr. thing was just a couple years back... long after he stopped posting here. I bet he's lurking in this thread as we speak. F#cking maniac.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtRzlWgHqIk

[D-FENS]

Ask and ye shall receive. This is actually semi-new. The Mayweather Sr. thing was just a couple years back... long after he stopped posting here. I bet he's lurking in this thread as we speak. F#cking maniac.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtRzlWgHqIk

Look at the comment section...

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

Guy is ****in' nuts.

[alenleomessi]

Charlie Zelenoff3 months ago

kobe fights like a little bitch my Gf hits harder then kobe


:applause:

[Rasheed1]

:roll:

Ahaha!

[plowking]

Charlie Z reminds me of plowking. Both have similar personalities. lol

I remember when Charlie Z posted a video of him talking shit about Lamar Doom while hitting the pads. haha.

You have a problem dude. :oldlol:

[magic chiongson]

Ask and ye shall receive. This is actually semi-new. The Mayweather Sr. thing was just a couple years back... long after he stopped posting here. I bet he's lurking in this thread as we speak. F#cking maniac.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtRzlWgHqIk

lol that's pretty new, good to know he remembers us well :lol

[Bosnian Sajo]

At least he finally accepted a loss :eek: Gotta start somewhere.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Used to ages ago. LamarDoom used to film some of his exploits for a while too, I believe.

Ages ago? He had came back just last year (might of been in 2012 actually) spewing f the haters and making vids, but he was quickly banned. Didn't even last 3 weeks I believe.

[East_Stone_Ya]

Look at the comment section...

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

Guy is ****in' nuts.

that is sad
all those 65 comments are written by him :facepalm

[Take Your Lumps]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bRR8QuKkTWc/UfTRlD1fuMI/AAAAAAAAAA8/iw2h5zxSqF0/w640-h638-no/GREATEST+OF+ALL+TIME+CHARLIE+ZELENOFF+32-0.jpg

[El Kabong]

Ask and ye shall receive. This is actually semi-new. The Mayweather Sr. thing was just a couple years back... long after he stopped posting here. I bet he's lurking in this thread as we speak. F#cking maniac.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtRzlWgHqIk
He punches a guy in the face, who responds by looking like he's heard the worlds funniest knock knock joke. That's pretty bad ass.

[Done_And_Done]

Look at the comment section...

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

Guy is ****in' nuts.

He basically deletes every comment excluding his own responses. Such odd behaviour.

Good detective work RBA...

[AKA AAP 23]

It does not surprise me that this guy lives in LA AND is also a Kobe fan. From my 13 years of ISH, I can finally conclude that being a Kobe fan is a mental disease.

[DonD13]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK4Sc5_KTbM

[Done_And_Done]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK4Sc5_KTbM

That forearm tat...

[oh the horror]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK4Sc5_KTbM



He even tattoos this shit on himself. There is no way he's trolling. I really think he believes what he says.


How wild.

[deion2123]

charlie won..wilder hit him while he was down resulting in a DQ win for Charlie

[Lamar Doom]

Damn. So much sad going on here. For starters people have been DYING to see Charlie actually fight someone who was actually fighting back for years. He finally does, of course he gets his ass whooped, but he learns nothing, he's not humbled, he's staggering around talking about "i'm still the best".

For those who think Charlie is trolling or this is an act, it's not. I thought Charlie was just some brash, stupid ass hole for a long time but I spent some time with him and he's legitimately crazy and laughing at him is laughing at a mentally handicapped person. For my part in all the shenanigans I truly feel bad, I really didn't know how f*cking off he was.

Charlie is going to end up getting seriously injured, killed, or jailed for hurting someone. He's a skinny p*ssy but he has a penchant for sucker punching people - I've personally witnessed him do it twice and he's been jailed for assault for doing it twice in one day to strangers on the street, all of which he considers "wins" on the imaginary record in his head. Even 160 pound knuckle head can do real damage with a blind side sucker punch, he is legitimately dangerous because of it. His "parents" (his mom is apparently mentally ill too and his "dad" isn't his real father, just long time boyfriend of his mother) either don't understand how bad the situation is, don't understand what proper treatment would be, or have zero grasp on discipline as they continue to let him live in this fantasy world and perpetuate his delusions. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend to give an expert prognosis on what exactly is wrong with him but he is delusional and mentally ill and the best thing anyone can do is ignore him or try to implore his parents to get him help. Laughing at him or prodding him is like teasing a down syndrome or autistic kid, we're all better than that. Sorry to get preachy, but that's the score.

[Done_And_Done]

Damn. So much sad going on here. For starters people have been DYING to see Charlie actually fight someone who was actually fighting back for years. He finally does, of course he gets his ass whooped, but he learns nothing, he's not humbled, he's staggering around talking about "i'm still the best".

For those who think Charlie is trolling or this is an act, it's not. I thought Charlie was just some brash, stupid ass hole for a long time but I spent some time with him and he's legitimately crazy and laughing at him is laughing at a mentally handicapped person. For my part in all the shenanigans I truly feel bad, I really didn't know how f*cking off he was.

Charlie is going to end up getting seriously injured, killed, or jailed for hurting someone. He's a skinny p*ssy but he has a penchant for sucker punching people - I've personally witnessed him do it twice and he's been jailed for assault for doing it twice in one day to strangers on the street, all of which he considers "wins" on the imaginary record in his head. Even 160 pound knuckle head can do real damage with a blind side sucker punch, he is legitimately dangerous because of it. His "parents" (his mom is apparently mentally ill too and his "dad" isn't his real father, just long time boyfriend of his mother) either don't understand how bad the situation is, don't understand what proper treatment would be, or have zero grasp on discipline as they continue to let him live in this fantasy world and perpetuate his delusions. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend to give an expert prognosis on what exactly is wrong with him but he is delusional and mentally ill and the best thing anyone can do is ignore him or try to implore his parents to get him help. Laughing at him or prodding him is like teasing a down syndrome or autistic kid, we're all better than that. Sorry to get preachy, but that's the score.

I agree with just about everything LD said here.

The thing with Charlie is that although he isn't overly articulate in speech, he is capable of delivering a message that is intelligible. Mental illness often doesn't show in the most perceptive of ways, so it's clear that most people have misconstrued him as being an ultra cocky son of a b1tch who is trying to troll himself a payday.

I see a very sick individual who in all truth is in desperate need of psychiatric assistance. I see a guy who's behaviour spells delusions of grandeur, which if I'm not correct is linked to a personality disorder OR schizophrenia.

It is hoped that he'll eventually receive the help he needs but something tells me that he won't. Something also tells me that he's being egged on by somebody posing as a friend. I feel like he's being motivated and encouraged to believe his lies. Which will only get him hurt or God forbid, killed in the end.

Charlie.... Get help bro

[NugzFan]

who the hell is charlie z? is he famous in any way?

[RedBlackAttack]

Damn. So much sad going on here. For starters people have been DYING to see Charlie actually fight someone who was actually fighting back for years. He finally does, of course he gets his ass whooped, but he learns nothing, he's not humbled, he's staggering around talking about "i'm still the best".

For those who think Charlie is trolling or this is an act, it's not. I thought Charlie was just some brash, stupid ass hole for a long time but I spent some time with him and he's legitimately crazy and laughing at him is laughing at a mentally handicapped person. For my part in all the shenanigans I truly feel bad, I really didn't know how f*cking off he was.

Charlie is going to end up getting seriously injured, killed, or jailed for hurting someone. He's a skinny p*ssy but he has a penchant for sucker punching people - I've personally witnessed him do it twice and he's been jailed for assault for doing it twice in one day to strangers on the street, all of which he considers "wins" on the imaginary record in his head. Even 160 pound knuckle head can do real damage with a blind side sucker punch, he is legitimately dangerous because of it. His "parents" (his mom is apparently mentally ill too and his "dad" isn't his real father, just long time boyfriend of his mother) either don't understand how bad the situation is, don't understand what proper treatment would be, or have zero grasp on discipline as they continue to let him live in this fantasy world and perpetuate his delusions. I'm not gonna sit here and pretend to give an expert prognosis on what exactly is wrong with him but he is delusional and mentally ill and the best thing anyone can do is ignore him or try to implore his parents to get him help. Laughing at him or prodding him is like teasing a down syndrome or autistic kid, we're all better than that. Sorry to get preachy, but that's the score.

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The sad truth. I didn't realize his 56-0 record or whatever he's touting is actually comprised of random people on the street he has sucker-punched. It makes a lot of sense, though, and makes his whole persona a lot less interesting and more worrisome.

The guy needs to be in a padded room and I don't say that to be funny. Either he's going to end up really hurting someone who is just minding their own business, walking down the street, not realizing that there's a certifiable maniac on the loose or he's going to target the wrong person and either get beaten to death on the spot or in retaliation.

My biggest question is, who is this guy following him around with a camera constantly? To me, that person should be locked up alongside him when he blindsides people. He's exploiting and encouraging a mentally ill, unstable individual.

It's one thing to do what you did... met up with him in person, felt him out and came to the conclusion that there was no acting or trolling involved. This person has to know he's out of his mind, and years later he's still supporting his delusions of grandeur in this fictional world Charlie has created.

Someone needs to step in for his own welfare.

[Done_And_Done]

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The sad truth. I didn't realize his 56-0 record or whatever he's touting is actually comprised of random people on the street he has sucker-punched. It makes a lot of sense, though, and makes his whole persona a lot less interesting and more worrisome.

The guy needs to be in a padded room and I don't say that to be funny. Either he's going to end up really hurting someone who is just minding their own business, walking down the street, not realizing that there's a certifiable maniac on the loose or he's going to target the wrong person and either get beaten to death on the spot or in retaliation.

My biggest question is, who is this guy following him around with a camera constantly? To me, that person should be locked up alongside him when he blindsides people. He's exploiting and encouraging a mentally ill, unstable individual.

It's one thing to do what you did... met up with him in person, felt him out and came to the conclusion that there was no acting or trolling involved. This person has to know he's out of his mind, and years later he's still supporting his delusions of grandeur in this fictional world Charlie has created.

Someone needs to step in for his own welfare.

Perhaps I'm grasping at straws but it could be somebody propping Charlie up in hopes of benefiting financially (although it's unlikely Charlie will ever profit off his antics) or just a disturbed individual whose ploy has no real motive. He or they are total pieces of shit though...

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[red1]

this kid is mentally ill