NBA Exec Says "Vassilis Spanoulis can tie his shoes" - LINK

[Euroleague]

I have ON RECORD, and NBA front office executive saying that Vassilis Spanoulis is "definitely an NBA player" and that "Jeff Van Gundy would never play him. After that he got mad and left".

This CONFIRMS EVERY SINGLE THING I HAVE SAID HERE.

This is from a MAJOR AND WELL RESPECTED USA media source and in English.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/racine-guard-matt-lojeski-has-found-home-in-greek-league-b99251251z1-255954251.html

"There's a slew of guys in Europe that could be on NBA teams," said Milwaukee Bucks vice president of player personnel Dave Babcock. "But a lot of times, they get to a point where they're making so much money over there, that they can't afford to come to the NBA."

Babcock goes to Europe two to four times a year to scout games and look for draft-eligible players — perhaps the next Ersan Ilyasova — and at free agents such as Lojeski. There is NBA talent there.

"Matt's [Lojeski's] team has a starting point guard, Vassilis Spanoulis, who was drafted by Houston," said Babcock. "He signed with Houston, but Jeff Van Gundy would never play him. After that he got mad and left. He's definitely an NBA player."

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[215Philly]

He's an Nba player, just not a good one

[J Shuttlesworth]

Mark Madsen was an NBA player.

[TheMagicMan]

Nobody gives a shit about Vaseline Spatulanoius.

[Magic731]

Dude works for the Bucks. He definitely knows NBA talent when he sees it.

[Budadiiii]

The one red bar doesn't do Euroleague justice. He's the biggest villain in the history of InsideHoops.

Better than Ledger in The Dark Knight.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Spanoulis was 100% an NBA player, but so was Luke Walton. And DJ "tacos" Mbenga. And Jaron Collins (just as bad as Jason, only difference is Jason is gay making him the most marketable scrub ever).

[CavaliersFTW]

I'll repeat exactly what I said in the other thread you brought this up... Spanoullis is not an NBA caliber player, he averaged 2.7ppg on 30% (18% from three) on garbage time and told his coach that he was the "Tmac of Euroleague" and the coach swiftly responded with "Well Tmac is Tmac here" and cut the whiny son of a bitch after 31 games. Honestly he was trash in the NBA, he tried and failed. Meanwhile NBA scrubs like Sonny Weems and Anthony Parker have gone over to Euroleague and etched themselves onto Euroleague's Mount Rushmore. How many Euroleague scrubs have come to the NBA and become a part of the NBA's Mount Rushmore? It's quite clear which league is superior.

[Euroleague]

Spanoulis was 100% an NBA player, but so was Luke Walton.

The NBA exec said he IS an NBA player. Meaning he IS at the level NOW.

Learn to read TROLL.

[Euroleague]

I'll repeat exactly what I said in the other thread you brought this up... Spanoullis is not an NBA caliber player, he averaged 2.7ppg on 30% (18% from three) on garbage time and told his coach that he was the "Tmac of Euroleague" and the coach swiftly responded with "Well Tmac is Tmac here" and cut the whiny son of a bitch after 31 games. Honestly he was trash in the NBA, he tried and failed. Meanwhile NBA scrubs like Sonny Weems and Anthony Parker have gone over to Euroleague and etched themselves onto Euroleague's Mount Rushmore. So it's quite clear which league is superior.

Euroleague. Whatever league has Spanoulis in it, is automatically superior.

[Smook A.]

You didn't own any of us you dumb f*ck. That's one retarded exec's OPINION. He just so happens to be working for Milwaukee.

Vassilis Spanpoopis whouldn't even make the YMCA team. He's pure trash and I don't know why you think he's any good. Its crazy how you think he's the 3rd best player in the world... smfh. You must be on bath salts.

Also look how "clutch" he is:
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-11-2014/tEHW4A.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-11-2014/6S5bij.gif

[5 rings fan]

Euroleague. Whatever league has Spanoulis in it, is automatically superior.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[CavaliersFTW]

Euroleague. Whatever league has Spanoulis in it, is automatically superior.
So in 2007 the NBA was superior, anchored by Vagispans mighty 2.7ppg 30% (18% from three) playing on garbage time because he couldn't earn minutes? Got it.

[Euroleague]

You didn't own any of us you dumb f*ck. That's one retarded exec's OPINION. He just so happens to be working for Milwaukee.

Vassilis Spanpoopis whouldn't even make the YMCA team. He's pure trash and I don't know why you think he's any good. Its crazy how you think he's the 3rd best player in the world... smfh. You must be on bath salts.

Also look how "clutch" he is:
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-11-2014/tEHW4A.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-11-2014/6S5bij.gif

He is THE BEST player in the world. WTF? 3rd? THIRD? Spanoulis es numero uno.

Why are you posting a flopping lesson to Rudy and calling it clutch? He was teaching Rudy a lesson on how to flop. Rudy flopped 38 times in that game.

Someone actually did a video and counted that he flopped 38 times in that game, or maybe the game before. So Spanoulis decided to teach him how to flop even better.

What the hell does that have to do with being clutch? It is a master lesson in the art of flopping.

You just took the title of the dumbest person in the history of this site.

[rezznor]

I have ON RECORD, and NBA front office executive saying that Vassilis Spanoulis is "definitely an NBA player" and that "Jeff Van Gundy would never play him. After that he got mad and left".

This CONFIRMS EVERY SINGLE THING I HAVE SAID HERE.

This is from a MAJOR AND WELL RESPECTED USA media source and in English.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/racine-guard-matt-lojeski-has-found-home-in-greek-league-b99251251z1-255954251.html

"There's a slew of guys in Europe that could be on NBA teams," said Milwaukee Bucks vice president of player personnel Dave Babcock. "But a lot of times, they get to a point where they're making so much money over there, that they can't afford to come to the NBA."

Babcock goes to Europe two to four times a year to scout games and look for draft-eligible players — perhaps the next Ersan Ilyasova — and at free agents such as Lojeski. There is NBA talent there.

"Matt's [Lojeski's] team has a starting point guard, Vassilis Spanoulis, who was drafted by Houston," said Babcock. "He signed with Houston, but Jeff Van Gundy would never play him. After that he got mad and left. He's definitely an NBA player."

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stopped reading at milwaukee bucks. :facepalm give it up euroleage. you are the charlie zelenoff of european basketball.

[CavaliersFTW]

stopped reading at milwaukee bucks. :facepalm give it up euroleage. you are the charlie zelenoff of european basketball. as for a retort, i'll just leave this here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkablUhsbig
That video was made by a RACIST and has now been reported to abuse.

[navy]

Can I have a youtube link of Spanolis doing something besides shooting a 3?

[Euroleague]

stopped reading at milwaukee bucks. :facepalm give it up euroleage. you are the charlie zelenoff of european basketball.

I guess it's time to report the golden dawn fascists again.

[Euroleague]

That video was made by a RACIST and has now been reported to abuse.

The retard that does not even know that Panathinaikos gate 13 fans are members of golden dawn.......

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[CavaliersFTW]

Can I have a youtube link of Spanolis doing something besides shooting a 3?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWl-JHATnP4

[CavaliersFTW]

The retard that does not even know that Panathinaikos gate 13 fans are members of golden dawn.......

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/ManWearingTinFoilHat.jpg/220px-ManWearingTinFoilHat.jpg

[Dr.J4ever]

Most reasonable people know Vspan is an NBA player. Hell, he wasn't cut by Houston, and JVG to the end thought he could still be a good player. Check his quotes on that.

And then the Spurs also wanted him. So you are feeling paranoid if you think he is not an NBA player. Take your medications, maybe it will change.

The real question is---how good of an NBA player can he be? My guess after seeing him with the Greek team, the EL, and the NBA is that he would be a good backup..

I already explained many times to you that Vspan needs the ball to be effective, and wants to be the "Tmac". He is just not athletic enough to be a "tmac", in the same way Evan Turner can't be a good ball facilitator.

Vspan lacks elite athleticism, but he can get in the paint with ease, finish, and shoot off the dribble, and plays decent defense. So I believe he can be a good backup for a winning team, or a starter for non-playoff team.

[Smook A.]

He is THE BEST player in the world. WTF? 3rd? THIRD? Spanoulis es numero uno.

Why are you posting a flopping lesson to Rudy and calling it clutch? He was teaching Rudy a lesson on how to flop. Rudy flopped 38 times in that game.

Someone actually did a video and counted that he flopped 38 times in that game, or maybe the game before. So Spanoulis decided to teach him how to flop even better.

What the hell does that have to do with being clutch? It is a master lesson in the art of flopping.

You just took the title of the dumbest person in the history of this site.
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/jorlol.gif

I just literally had the best laugh.

[bdreason]

Obviously one of the best players in Europe could play in the NBA. The difference for Spanoulis is that he would play less, get paid less, and would just be another NBA player. In Europe, he gets to be a big fish in a small pond... and there's nothing wrong with that.

[Euroleague]

Can I have a youtube link of Spanolis doing something besides shooting a 3?

Here you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z00-WirJH2o

Spanoulis, destroying the "vastly athletically superior TEAM USA athletes"........that is according to this forum's ultra racists. That also claim he is "much too slow and non athletic to ever be able to play in the NBA".

Even though he was by far and away the fastest, quickest and most explosive player on the court against Team USA, and even though they had to double team him the next time they played him. But yeah, according to the racists here, Spanoulis is "a non athletic stiff that could not even make it in the YMCA, and just can't cut it against the vastly superior and genetically superior NBA athletes".........

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z00-WirJH2o

[CavaliersFTW]

Most reasonable people know Vspan is an NBA player. Hell, he wasn't cut by Houston, and JVG to the end thought he could still be a good player. Check his quotes on that.

And then the Spurs also wanted him. So you are feeling paranoid if you think he is not an NBA player. Take your medications, maybe it will change.

The real question is---how good of a player can he be? My guess after seeing him with the Greek team, the EL, and the NBA is that he would be a good backup..

I already explained many times to you that Vspan needs the ball to be effective, and wants to be the "Tmac". He is just not athletic enough to be a "tmac", in the same way Evan Turner can't be a good ball facilitator.

Vspan lacks elite athleticism, but he can get in the paint with ease, finish, and shoot off the dribble, and plays decent defense. So I believe he can be a good backup for a winning team, or a starter for non-playoff team.
You are being nicer and more honest with this comment than anyone... and there in lies the problem. Euroleague is going to erupt on your ass like Krakatoa because you just called V-span a "backup" player, and meant it...

http://i.imgur.com/FER1V0V.gif

[Euroleague]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/ManWearingTinFoilHat.jpg/220px-ManWearingTinFoilHat.jpg

I am a Panathinaikos fan. It is a FACT that Panathinaikos hardcore fan base (from the guy making those videos) are members of the extreme right wing fascist groups of Greece.

From northern Athens area rich suburbs.

You can look this up anywhere on the internet and confirm it.

YOU ARE UNBELIEVABLY STUPID, SAD, AND PATHETIC.

[Dr.J4ever]

You are being nicer and more honest with this comment than anyone... and there in lies the problem. Euroleague is going to erupt on your ass like Krakatoa because you just called V-span a "backup" player, and meant it...

http://i.imgur.com/FER1V0V.gif
:lol

[JohnFreeman]

Chris Smith played in the NBA...

[Smook A.]

Here you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z00-WirJH2o

Spanoulis, destroying the "vastly athletically superior TEAM USA athletes"........that is according to this forum's ultra racists. That also claim he is "much too slow and non athletic to ever be able to play in the NBA".

Even though he was by far and away the fastest, quickest and most explosive player on the court against Team USA, and even though they had to double team him the next time the played him. But yeah, according to the racists here, Spanoulis is "an non athletic stiff that could not even make it in the YMCA and just can't cut it against the vastly superior and genetically superior NBA athletes".........

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z00-WirJH2o
Are you ****ing joking? Are you really ****ing kidding me right now?

Did you not know who LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, and Dwight Howard were at the time? Spanpoopis isn't even as athletic as a 90 year old Brian Scalabrine. gtfo of here.

[Euroleague]

Obviously one of the best players in Europe could play in the NBA. The difference for Spanoulis is that he would play less, get paid less, and would just be another NBA player. In Europe, he gets to be a big fish in a small pond... and there's nothing wrong with that.

He plays like 28 minutes a game in Euroleague. In NBA he would be a starter playing 35 to 36 minutes or more a game. So he would play MORE in NBA.

Second, he would not be "just another player in NBA". He would be easily a premiere player in NBA. He can do every single thing Tony Parker does, except he is a much better passer and play maker, and he is much better at running an offense and at running pick and roll, and he's a much better 3 point shooter.

He's a rich man's Tony Parker, so to say he would just be another NBA player just shows that you have clearly never in your life ever seen him play a game. Just like the rest of these clowns and/or racists.

[Smook A.]

He plays like 28 minutes a game in Euroleague. In NBA he would be a starter playing 35 to 36 minutes or more a game. So he would play MORE in NBA.

Second, he would not be "just another player in NBA". He would be easily a premiere player in NBA. He can do every single thing Tony Parker does, except he is a much better passer and play maker, and he is much better at running an offense and at running pick and roll, and he's a much better 3 point shooter.

He's a rich man's Tony Parker, so to say he would just be another NBA player just shows that you have clearly never in your life ever seen him play a game. Just like the rest of these clowns and/or racists.
If he would be a premiere player in the NBA then why isn't this scrub in the NBA? hmmm? Answer the question.

[CavaliersFTW]

If he would be a premiere player in the NBA then why isn't this scrub in the NBA? hmmm? Answer the question.
reported to abuse.

[TheMagicMan]

Euroleague. Whatever league has Spanoulis in it, is automatically superior.

100% confirmed Euroleague is a troll. He obviously doesn't believe this shit. There's no way he could.

[bdreason]

He plays like 28 minutes a game in Euroleague. In NBA he would be a starter playing 35 to 36 minutes or more a game. So he would play MORE in NBA.

Second, he would not be "just another player in NBA". He would be easily a premiere player in NBA. He can do every single thing Tony Parker does, except he is a much better passer and play maker, and he is much better at running an offense and at running pick and roll, and he's a much better 3 point shooter.

He's a rich man's Tony Parker, so to say he would just be another NBA player just shows that you have clearly never in your life ever seen him play a game. Just like the rest of these clowns and/or racists.


If he could be a premiere player in the NBA, then he would be in the NBA... making 20+ million a year.

[Euroleague]

Most reasonable people know Vspan is an NBA player. Hell, he wasn't cut by Houston, and JVG to the end thought he could still be a good player. Check his quotes on that.

And then the Spurs also wanted him. So you are feeling paranoid if you think he is not an NBA player. Take your medications, maybe it will change.

The real question is---how good of an NBA player can he be? My guess after seeing him with the Greek team, the EL, and the NBA is that he would be a good backup..

I already explained many times to you that Vspan needs the ball to be effective, and wants to be the "Tmac". He is just not athletic enough to be a "tmac", in the same way Evan Turner can't be a good ball facilitator.

Vspan lacks elite athleticism, but he can get in the paint with ease, finish, and shoot off the dribble, and plays decent defense. So I believe he can be a good backup for a winning team, or a starter for non-playoff team.


You are the same freaking idiot that said Pero Antic, Spanoulis' teammate on Olympiacos could never play in the NBA, that he would "never in a million years ever be good enough to make an NBA roster".

He was the Hawks starting center, after being the 7-8 man of Olympiacos, and averaging like 6 points and 4 rebounds per game in Euroleague. You regularly called him a "Euro scrub" that "could never ever make an NBA roster".

Again, 7-8 man of Olympiacos, 6 points and 4 rebounds per game in Euroleague ---> starting center of an NBA playoff team.

Spanoulis, meanwhile, his teammate, is the guy that is the star of the league, and the only guy getting double and triple teamed every game.

So you are telling me that the 7-8 man of Olympiacos that YOU said "could never ever make an NBA roster", that YOU said was a "Euro scrub", that YOU said, was "not athletic enough to ever make an NBA roster or to ever be able to play in the NBA" can start in an NBA playoff team, but the star of the whole league...........

the only guy that gets double and triple teamed, is just nothing but a backup?


Oh yeah, sure, your IQ - again, nothing but room temperature.

And this "athleticism" bullshit.............

So yeah, ancient as **** Nash, Kidd, Prigioni, Miller, etc......all of them were starting in the NBA with literally 1/3 the athletic ability of Spanoulis, LITERALLY 1/3 of Spanoulis' athletic ability, but Spanoulis could not.

NBA fans brag endlessly about Rubio's "defense", and his lateral foot speed is absolutely like molasses compared to Spanoulis' lateral foot speed. Rubio is a starter in the NBA.

Calderon is a starter in the NBA, and he has not even 1/4 the athletic ability of Spanoulis.

You need to check on the going rates for brain transplants.

Only a starter for a non playoff team?

Yeah, I see, so you are saying then that someone like freaking Calderon, or freaking Patrick Beverley, or freaking Mario Chalmers, etc. is better than Spanoulis.........

You seriously need to stop smoking crack.

[CavaliersFTW]

You are the same freaking idiot that said Pero Antic, Spanoulis' teammate on Olympiacos could never play in the NBA, that he would "never in a million years ever be good enough to make an NBA roster".

He was the Hawks starting center, after being the 7-8 man of Olympiacos, and averaging like 6 points and 4 rebounds per game. You regularly called him a "Euro scrub" that "could never ever make an NBA roster".

Again, 7-8 man of Olympiacos, 6 points and 4 rebounds per game - starting center of an NBA playoff team.

Spanoulis, meanwhile, his teammate, is the guy that is the star of the league, and the only guy getting double and triple teamed ever game.

So you are telling me that the 7-8 man of Olympiacos that YOU said "could never ever make an NBA roster, that YOU said was a "Euro scrub", that YOU said, was "not athletic enough to ever make an NBA roster or to ever be able to play in the NBA" can start in an NBA playoff team, but the star of the whole league...........

the only guy that gets double and triple teamed, is just nothing but a backup?


Oh yeah, sure your IQ again nothing but room temperature.

And this "athleticism" bullshit.............

So yeah, ancient as **** Nash, Kidd, Prigioni, Miller, etc......all of them were starting in the NBA with literally 1/3 the athletic ability of Spanoulis, LITERALLY 1/3 of Spanoulis' athletic ability, but Spanoulis could not.

NBA fans brag endlessly about Rubio's "defense" and his lateral foot speed is absolutely like molasses compared to Spanoulis' lateral foot speed. Rubio is a starter in the NBA.

Calderon is a starter in the NBA, and he has not even 1/4 the athletic ability of Spanoulis.

You need to check on the going rates for brain transplants.
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[rezznor]

dragic > spanopoplis
lowery > spoonfedoplois
lillard > spanoptoplis
lin > spanknouilis

[Smook A.]

http://i.imgur.com/Bjb4DVU.jpg

[Brokenbeat]

...
You need to check on the going rates for brain transplants.

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[Euroleague]

Are you ****ing joking? Are you really ****ing kidding me right now?

Did you not know who LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, and Dwight Howard were at the time? Spanpoopis isn't even as athletic as a 90 year old Brian Scalabrine. gtfo of here.

"By "athletic" you mean "he's white". Because you are a racist black supremacist that hates white people.

When a white guy shows up the "vastly genetically athletically superior blacks" you go insane.

All of the racist black supremacists are still butt hurt about that to this day.

[Smook A.]

"By "athletic" you mean "he's white". Because you are a racist black supremacist that hates white people.

When a white guy shows up the "vastly genetically athletically superior blacks" you go insane.

All of the racist black supremacists are still butt hurt about that to this day.
http://insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9961683&postcount=39

[Euroleague]

If he could be a premiere player in the NBA, then he would be in the NBA... making 20+ million a year.

Another clown that does not have the IQ to grasp that the NBA isn't better than the Euroleague.

That can't separate marketing fiction from reality.

That also can't grasp that a "$20 million salary in the NBA" loses agent fees, taxes, living expenses, housing, etc., while Euroleague salary is NET AFTER EVERYTHING and in EUROS.

In other words, another LOW IQ fool.

It isn't $20 million genius. They don't actually make $20 million.

Repeat that to yourself about 100 times and just maybe your little pea brain will grasp it.

A typical max contract is more like $15 million in the first place, to begin with you started off with a huge exaggeration.

[TheMagicMan]

Reporting Euroleague for harassing other posters.

[BoutPractice]

My current theory is that Euroleague is actually Kim Jong Un or some high ranking North Korean official.

If you compare his posts with random North Korea propaganda, the similarities are striking.

"The people are unanimous in deploring the fact that there is no remedy for curing Park’s mental disease"

"She thus laid bare her despicable true colors as a wicked sycophant and traitor, a dirty comfort woman for the U.S. and despicable prostitute selling off the nation"

"As for Kirby who took the lead in cooking the “report”, he is a disgusting old lecher with a 40-odd-year-long career of homosexuality"

etc.

[Euroleague]

Didn't read a single word.

You're an assclown.

You always seem to attack European and Asian players.

You always defend clutchfans (where KKK are known to post) and claim it's not a racist site, even though it is an incredibly racist site.

Know them by their fruits.

It's obvious that you are racist.

[Im Still Ballin]

You always seem to attack European and Asian players.

You always defend clutchfans (where KKK are known to post) and claim it's not a racist site, even though it is an incredibly racist site.

Know them by their fruits.

It's obvious that you are racist.
PM me Euroleague, I want to show you some pretty conclusive data.

[Smook A.]

You always seem to attack European and Asian players.

You always defend clutchfans (where KKK are known to post) and claim it's not a racist site, even though it is an incredibly racist site.

Know them by their fruits.

It's obvious that you are racist.
Only asian player I EVER attacked was Lin because he was playing like shit at one point. It was annoying. I didn't attack him because he was asian, I did it because he was playing horrible.

And V-Shit is the only Euro I ever made fun of. He's a horrible player

Im not racist at all. I love Yao Ming, Dirk Nowitzki, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, etc etc...

You're an idiot.

[Euroleague]

Only asian player I EVER attacked was Lin because he was playing like shit at one point. It was annoying. I didn't attack him because he was asian, I did it because he was playing horrible.

And V-Shit is the only Euro I ever made fun of. He's a horrible player

Im not racist at all. I love Yao Ming, Dirk Nowitzki, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, etc etc...

You're an idiot.

if that's true then how come you claim every time clutchfans isn't racist and how come you ALWAYS make untrue claims about Spanoulis? The same things they do at clutchfans?

And then you would always say thing like "clutchfans never said bad things about Yao, that's a lie", even though for years they ruthlessly bashed him with racism there.

or how you said they never were racist against European players there, even though pretty much every European player gets taunted there?

Doesn't add up.

If that's not racism what is it? I suppose it's just all a strange coincidence to you, and you are just totally ignorant of it all?

And the Spanoulis lies are just all a strange coincidence also right?

Same with the whole "Beverley is better than Lin" bullshit also right?

[Im Still Ballin]

Guys PM me for exclusive NBA vs Euroleague data!

[dr.hee]

stopped reading at milwaukee bucks. :facepalm give it up euroleage. you are the charlie zelenoff of european basketball.

Wrong. VSpan is the Charlie Zelenoff of European Basketball.

Reported to abuse.

[ImKobe]

Vassilis is a role player, maybe a 6th man at best in the NBA. His defense is so horrible that he would never start for a team in this league. His poor athletic ability really hurts his stock, but he's very skilled as a player.

[russwest0]

dat tile edit :oldlol: :applause:

[SexSymbol]

He is THE BEST player in the world. WTF? 3rd? THIRD? Spanoulis es numero uno.

Why are you posting a flopping lesson to Rudy and calling it clutch? He was teaching Rudy a lesson on how to flop. Rudy flopped 38 times in that game.

Someone actually did a video and counted that he flopped 38 times in that game, or maybe the game before. So Spanoulis decided to teach him how to flop even better.

What the hell does that have to do with being clutch? It is a master lesson in the art of flopping.

You just took the title of the dumbest person in the history of this site.
Spanoulis isn't even top 3 in Europe and that is general consensus here, let alone the world.
You're straight trippin

[Im Still Ballin]

Rumor has it Euroleague has been on lemon-party since his last post.

Confirm this with me through PM, guys.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

He is THE BEST player in the world. WTF? 3rd? THIRD? Spanoulis es numero uno.

Why are you posting a flopping lesson to Rudy and calling it clutch? He was teaching Rudy a lesson on how to flop. Rudy flopped 38 times in that game.

Someone actually did a video and counted that he flopped 38 times in that game, or maybe the game before. So Spanoulis decided to teach him how to flop even better.

What the hell does that have to do with being clutch? It is a master lesson in the art of flopping.

You just took the title of the dumbest person in the history of this site.
I'm trying to picture a scenario in which LeBron James or Kevin Durant would EVER average 2.7 ppg on 30% and i just can't

[Warfan]

I'm trying to picture a scenario in which LeBron James or Kevin Durant would EVER average 2.7 ppg on 30% and i just can't

Did u watch the 4th quarters of the '11 finals?

I guess it aint the whole game tho

[dr.hee]

Did u watch the 4th quarters of the '11 finals?

I guess it aint the whole game tho

Lebron actually read great things about VSpan before the finals, and since he's always willing to learn from the best (and the bald chubby Greek is clearly the best player of all the peasants and goat herders in his home village), he decided to play exactly like Spanoulis. He couldn't quite reproduce the 3 ppg on 30% shooting though, that's why the Heat lost to that other Euro dude (you know, the one who's averaging even more than 3 pgg in the NBA, damn how is that even possible?).

[Manila]

Hi euroleague, this is a serious question. In your opinion, who is better between Michael jordan and Vspan? prime to prime.

[SwayDizzle]

Listen man, I love Olympiacos and Spanoulis is a great player, but to say he is definitely an NBA player now, which implies he would do just as well in the NBA as Euroleague, is a reach. For one, there is no proof to support this. It's an established fact that the style of play in each league respectively is miles apart in terms of overall strategy. Being good in one league does not necessarily transfer to the other.

Then to deny that the overall talent level and progression of the game is more advanced in the NBA than in the Euroleague, is short-sighted or influenced by a personal bias.

The main problem I have with Spanoulis is his inability to adapt. And this criticism spans to all Greeks who are unsuccessful abroad. They carry the Greek mentality over and hold onto it so dearly it limits their capacity to integrate in new systems and cultures. Spanoulis was rendered a useless player in the NBA because of his attitude, not because of his talent and skill level.

[dannywpt]

Euroleague. Whatever league has Spanoulis in it, is automatically superior.

Damn, Euroleague is slipping. Usually you can kind of go along with that he's a psyhopath who actually believes this shit, but now he's going so far that it's glaringly obvious that he's trolling.

He is quite possibly one of the greatest and most dedicated trolls in internet history.

[5 rings fan]

Damn, Euroleague is slipping. Usually you can kind of go along with that he's a psyhopath who actually believes this shit, but now he's going so far that it's glaringly obvious that he's trolling.

He is quite possibly one of the greatest and most dedicated trolls in internet history.
Luckily Jeff never bans him
Anyway that phrase proves he is not a psychopath but a troll

[alexd]

Diamantidis>spanoulis
prime vs prime
career vs career

[Oly BC]

Listen man, I love Olympiacos and Spanoulis is a great player, but to say he is definitely an NBA player now, which implies he would do just as well in the NBA as Euroleague, is a reach. For one, there is no proof to support this. It's an established fact that the style of play in each league respectively is miles apart in terms of overall strategy. Being good in one league does not necessarily transfer to the other.

Then to deny that the overall talent level and progression of the game is more advanced in the NBA than in the Euroleague, is short-sighted or influenced by a personal bias.

The main problem I have with Spanoulis is his inability to adapt. And this criticism spans to all Greeks who are unsuccessful abroad. They carry the Greek mentality over and hold onto it so dearly it limits their capacity to integrate in new systems and cultures. Spanoulis was rendered a useless player in the NBA because of his attitude, not because of his talent and skill level.
Pero Antic (not a guard, yes) got better numbers in his rookie season in the NBA then he did in the Euroleague.
Nick Calathes had 4.9 p and 2.9 assists in 16.5 minutes in his rookie season and 7.6 points and 2.4 assists in 23.5 minutes in his last euroleague season (and during that stretch when he was given a starting role, he probably produced numbers he had only seen playing in the eurocup).
Farmar had 10.1 points and 4.9 assists in 20 minutes this year and 13.8 points and 3.9 assists in 30 minutes last year in euroleague.

There is no real discrepancy in numbers, these people and many others could do a similar job in either league and if they could, Spanoulis who is much much better than them probably could as well.
People like Farmar or Calathes get "roleplayer" time because this is what they are and this is what essentially everyone is here. Even the top scorer in euroleague will rarely average more than 17points. Not because people shoot with 30%, but because they don't average 20 shots per game, only 10 or 12.


What the NBA considers a star player is something alien to european basketball, Nowitzki is an exception not the rule and I don't really see anyone even trying to model their play after that. Spanoulis couldn't be a star player in the NBA in the sense that he couldn't average 30 ppg on 21 spg. He could probably produce numbers similar to those he has in euroleague (or bigger for more minutes) if he was in a team that asked the same things (spurs are the team that is most similar in style) and doesn't expect anyone to be a "star" (though it does have star-caliber players).

Not every guard in the NBA is a Parker or an Ellis and Spanoulis definitely isn't physically worse off than Manu or Calderon (or Nash...). And not every player in the NBA is the complete package either. Parker is amazing when he spins near the basket, he's pretty mediocre beyond the arch. Spanoulis is a better shooter than him just like Parker is better in driving. Comparisons don't just go one way.

[Oly BC]

Diamantidis>spanoulis
prime vs prime
career vs career
Diamantidis had one good season in his career, 10-11.
Every other season before that he's been a Mantzaris that shoots a bit more.
Every season past that he's been a mummy.


Prime Diamantidis:
06-07 8.9p, 3.9 ass
07-08 8.5p, 3.3 ass
08-09 8.5p, 3.1 ass

It's a good thing he was born long, a bad thing that he never thought highly of exercising. It really tells something when just one year of leading your team can make you move like you're 80 years old.

[The_Pharcyde]

Another clown that does not have the IQ to grasp that the NBA isn't better than the Euroleague.

That can't separate marketing fiction from reality.

That also can't grasp that a "$20 million salary in the NBA" loses agent fees, taxes, living expenses, housing, etc., while Euroleague salary is NET AFTER EVERYTHING and in EUROS.

In other words, another LOW IQ fool.

It isn't $20 million genius. They don't actually make $20 million.

Repeat that to yourself about 100 times and just maybe your little pea brain will grasp it.

A typical max contract is more like $15 million in the first place, to begin with you started off with a huge exaggeration.

Idc about this player, but give it up man. You sound like a guy driving the wrong way on the highway and is complaining about everyone going backwards. I think you know deep down the NBA is better so you watch euro league games with an NBA measuring stick next to them. Just let it go and enjoy your league..

[dannywpt]

Topic edit, well played :applause:

[Iceman#44]

VASSILIS SPANOULIS CAREER STATS


NATIONAL LEAGUE
1999-00 - Larissa - 6.9 ppg in 13 games, .478 FG%
2000-01 - Larissa - 8.2 ppg in 26 games, .439 FG%
2001-02 - Maroussi - 4.9 ppg in 12 games, .489 FG%
2002-03 - Maroussi - 10.3 ppg in 29 games, .422 FG%
2003-04 - Maroussi - 11.1 ppg in 33 games, .456 FG%
2004-05 - Maroussi - 15.9 ppg in 35 games, .421 FG%
2005-06 - Panathinaikos - 11.0 ppg in 34 games, .446 FG%
2006-07 - Houston (NBA) - 2.7 ppg in 31 games, .319 FG%
2007-08 - Panathinaikos - 12.1 ppg in 36 games, .480 FG%
2008-09 - Panathinaikos - 10.2 ppg in 30 games, .455 FG%
2009-10 - Panathinaikos - 10.1 ppg in 31 games, .557 FG%
2010-11 - Olympiacos - 10.6 ppg in 30 games, .402 FG%
2011-12 - Olympiacos - 11.7 ppg in 31 games, .417 FG%
2012-13 - Olympiacos - 11.4 ppg in 33 games, .394 FG%



Career High 15.9 ppg on .421?? WTF


Even more...I think Euroleague MVP is really a JOKE...Spanoulis won 2012-13 Mvp Award scoring 14.7 ppg in 31 games while shooting 141/355, .397 FG%!!!


Euroleague: the only league in the WORLD where your MVP scores not even 15 ppg with .397 FG%

THE BEST IN THE WORLD :biggums: :biggums:

[ArbitraryWater]

smook you get too upset talking to him :lol

anyway, euroleague my dearest friend, can you show me your top 10 best players in the world list, as of right now, 2014?

[SamuraiSWISH]

You are being nicer and more honest with this comment than anyone... and there in lies the problem. Euroleague is going to erupt on your ass like Krakatoa because you just called V-span a "backup" player, and meant it...

http://i.imgur.com/FER1V0V.gif
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Will Forte

Anyone know what movie this GIF is from? I don't think it's MaGruber or The Watch. Guy has a direct line to my funny bone.

[Derka]

Another All-Time GOAT title edit. :applause:

Read the OP. An exec for the organization that intentionally tanked its season said this. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

[Trollsmasher]

Euroleague. Whatever league has Spanoulis in it, is automatically superior.
:lol

[MiseryCityTexas]

You didn't own any of us you dumb f*ck. That's one retarded exec's OPINION. He just so happens to be working for Milwaukee.

Vassilis Spanpoopis whouldn't even make the YMCA team. He's pure trash and I don't know why you think he's any good. Its crazy how you think he's the 3rd best player in the world... smfh. You must be on bath salts.

Also look how "clutch" he is:
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-11-2014/tEHW4A.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-11-2014/6S5bij.gif


he's only 30 something and already has a bald spot.

[Rocketswin2013]

Dude works for the Bucks. He definitely knows NBA talent when he sees it.
:roll:

[ralph_i_el]

[QUOTE=Euroleague]I have ON RECORD, and NBA front office executive saying that Vassilis Spanoulis is "definitely an NBA player" and that "Jeff Van Gundy would never play him. After that he got mad and left".

This CONFIRMS EVERY SINGLE THING I HAVE SAID HERE.

This is from a MAJOR AND WELL RESPECTED USA media source and in English.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/racine-guard-matt-lojeski-has-found-home-in-greek-league-b99251251z1-255954251.html

"There's a slew of guys in Europe that could be on NBA teams," said Milwaukee Bucks vice president of player personnel Dave Babcock. "But a lot of times, they get to a point where they're making so much money over there, that they can't afford to come to the NBA."

Babcock goes to Europe two to four times a year to scout games and look for draft-eligible players

[Dr.J4ever]

You are the same freaking idiot that said Pero Antic, Spanoulis' teammate on Olympiacos could never play in the NBA, that he would "never in a million years ever be good enough to make an NBA roster".

He was the Hawks starting center, after being the 7-8 man of Olympiacos, and averaging like 6 points and 4 rebounds per game in Euroleague. You regularly called him a "Euro scrub" that "could never ever make an NBA roster".

Again, 7-8 man of Olympiacos, 6 points and 4 rebounds per game in Euroleague ---> starting center of an NBA playoff team.

Spanoulis, meanwhile, his teammate, is the guy that is the star of the league, and the only guy getting double and triple teamed every game.

So you are telling me that the 7-8 man of Olympiacos that YOU said "could never ever make an NBA roster", that YOU said was a "Euro scrub", that YOU said, was "not athletic enough to ever make an NBA roster or to ever be able to play in the NBA" can start in an NBA playoff team, but the star of the whole league...........

the only guy that gets double and triple teamed, is just nothing but a backup?


Oh yeah, sure, your IQ - again, nothing but room temperature.

And this "athleticism" bullshit.............

So yeah, ancient as **** Nash, Kidd, Prigioni, Miller, etc......all of them were starting in the NBA with literally 1/3 the athletic ability of Spanoulis, LITERALLY 1/3 of Spanoulis' athletic ability, but Spanoulis could not.

NBA fans brag endlessly about Rubio's "defense", and his lateral foot speed is absolutely like molasses compared to Spanoulis' lateral foot speed. Rubio is a starter in the NBA.

Calderon is a starter in the NBA, and he has not even 1/4 the athletic ability of Spanoulis.

You need to check on the going rates for brain transplants.

Only a starter for a non playoff team?

Yeah, I see, so you are saying then that someone like freaking Calderon, or freaking Patrick Beverley, or freaking Mario Chalmers, etc. is better than Spanoulis.........

You seriously need to stop smoking crack.

First of all, you really have to stop using quotation marks quoting me. You know I never said anything about Pero Antic. If you can find the link with me in it talking about Pero Antic, I will make a thread, " Euroleague is the GOAT poster"....Deal?

That is a lie, and you know it.

Second of all, Vspan's game is very different from a Prigioni or a Calderon. Vspan, as I said, likes to control the game with his penetration. He likes to be the "Tmac"... Calderon is a role player type PG who's very efficient, but can never be a star. Prigioni is a good defensive PG, and right now, that's about it with him due to his age.

Spanoulis is a make or break type PG. He has the potential to be a star, but due to his lack of elite athleticism, he is not very efficient, and is likely to be a bust. This is what he was with Houston. Maybe a smarter head coach could use him better, but with his advanced age, an NBA GM would think twice.

Thirdly, we all know you believe the NBA>EL. Every year you make a thread where one or several NBA GMs want to get VSpan. We've all lost track by now with all the teams that supposedly wanted him. The Raptors, Mavs, Knicks, Lakers, Sixers, who else?

And every time you make that thread you are celebrating...Hmmmmm..Now why would you want Spanoulis to go to an inferior league?

Hmmmmm...:facepalm

[triangleoffense]

OP u still trolling the euroleague forums? Yep looks like it

[Le Shaqtus]

Euroleague getting shit on, what a surprise.

[Iceman#44]

Priceless! T.Mac on Shitnoulis:"He told me 'In my country, im Tracy McGrady, im T-Mac!" :biggums: :biggums:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UujXKTWGodU

[Le Shaqtus]

Priceless! T.Mac on Shitnoulis:"He told me 'In my country, im Tracy McGrady, im T-Mac!" :biggums: :biggums:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UujXKTWGodU

Watch Euroleague call him a racist because of T Macs Spanoulis impression

[gabepizza]

Spanloulis's team was just eliminated in a series by a team whose best players are Rudy Fernandez and Sergio Rodriquez. Rodriquez was also selected to 1st team all-Euroleague while Spanloulis was 2nd team all-euroleague. So Spanoulis is basically a poor man's Rodriquez. Rodriquez spent four years in the NBA averaging 4.3ppg and 2.9apg. So Spanoulis would be a little worse then that, in other words a bad back-up at best.

Other "first team-Euroleague" selections Sonny Weems and Keith Langford. Euroleague is about the same level of the D-league.

And the times Spanoulis got to compete against players from other leagues recently in FIBA competition he got outplayed by Ade Dagunduro when Greece got eliminated by Nigeria and led Greece to 11th places in 2010 and 2013 being outplayed by such greats as Petteri Koponen.

Spanoulis is one of the biggest scrubs and chokers in the history of basketball. Yes in the low level of Euroleague he is a top player but in the NBA and FIBA he has been like a man against boys. And don't let Euroleague tell you about his exploits with Greece pre-2007. It was Papaloukas who led Greece the silver medal in 2006 that's why he has selected for All-tournament team not Spanoulis. Once Papaloukas retired and left the team in Spanoulis' hands he has turned the team around from a top world team to a laughing stock which gets embarrassed by Finland and Nigeria.

[gabepizza]

You are the same freaking idiot that said Pero Antic, Spanoulis' teammate on Olympiacos could never play in the NBA, that he would "never in a million years ever be good enough to make an NBA roster".

He was the Hawks starting center, after being the 7-8 man of Olympiacos, and averaging like 6 points and 4 rebounds per game in Euroleague. You regularly called him a "Euro scrub" that "could never ever make an NBA roster".

Again, 7-8 man of Olympiacos, 6 points and 4 rebounds per game in Euroleague ---> starting center of an NBA playoff team.

Spanoulis, meanwhile, his teammate, is the guy that is the star of the league, and the only guy getting double and triple teamed every game.

So you are telling me that the 7-8 man of Olympiacos that YOU said "could never ever make an NBA roster", that YOU said was a "Euro scrub", that YOU said, was "not athletic enough to ever make an NBA roster or to ever be able to play in the NBA" can start in an NBA playoff team, but the star of the whole league...........

the only guy that gets double and triple teamed, is just nothing but a backup?


Oh yeah, sure, your IQ - again, nothing but room temperature.

And this "athleticism" bullshit.............

So yeah, ancient as **** Nash, Kidd, Prigioni, Miller, etc......all of them were starting in the NBA with literally 1/3 the athletic ability of Spanoulis, LITERALLY 1/3 of Spanoulis' athletic ability, but Spanoulis could not.

NBA fans brag endlessly about Rubio's "defense", and his lateral foot speed is absolutely like molasses compared to Spanoulis' lateral foot speed. Rubio is a starter in the NBA.

Calderon is a starter in the NBA, and he has not even 1/4 the athletic ability of Spanoulis.

You need to check on the going rates for brain transplants.

Only a starter for a non playoff team?

Yeah, I see, so you are saying then that someone like freaking Calderon, or freaking Patrick Beverley, or freaking Mario Chalmers, etc. is better than Spanoulis.........

You seriously need to stop smoking crack.

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/teams/showteamstats?clubcode=OLY&seasoncode=E2012

Yes Antic was the 7th or 8th man but when Olympiacos won the championship last year, in the final four he was 3rd on the team in minutes, 4th on the Euroleague champions in points and 2nd in rebounds for the Euroleague champions and goes to being a starting center on the worst of the 16 NBA play-off team that ended the season with a losing record, just one game ahead of my crappy Knicks.

[Meticode]

I can't believe how many people reply to this troll. Entertainment value I suppose.

[ballup]

Must be a boring day in the office if shoe tying is a topic for an NBA exec.

[Oly BC]

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/teams/showteamstats?clubcode=OLY&seasoncode=E2012

Yes Antic was the 7th or 8th man but when Olympiacos won the championship last year, in the final four he was 3rd on the team in minutes, 4th on the Euroleague champions in points and 2nd in rebounds for the Euroleague champions and goes to being a starting center on the worst of the 16 NBA play-off team that ended the season with a losing record, just one game ahead of my crappy Knicks.
Of course if we're serious, that an average/back up pf in euroleague can play as a starting center in a playoff nba team* says a lot.

If I was an NBA fan and that was all I liked about my life, I would get very angry as well. "Now even NBA isn't that special? What else is there for me?"



*Not to mention that he's established himself as the toughest mofo in the league a few months after arriving. :oldlol:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Vassilis spanoulis would EASILY be a top 5 PG in this league if you give him a lead role on a team.
i can understand he flamed out after that retarded piece of horseshit van gundy, who is a known racist, didnt play him at all.
if you dont think Spanoulis would be a top 5 NBA PG you are probably freaking retarded:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

[Oly BC]

Vassilis spanoulis would EASILY be a top 5 PG in this league if you give him a lead role on a team.
i can understand he flamed out after that retarded piece of horseshit van gundy, who is a known racist, didnt play him at all.
if you dont think Spanoulis would be a top 5 NBA PG you are probably freaking retarded:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
Technically he would be a top 5 combo guard.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Technically he would be a top 5 combo guard.
:applause: :applause:
funny how people hate on an incredible talent like spanoulis who is the ultimate leader just because he doesnt play in the nba and just because they get trolled by euroleague( who, while being a troll, is right most of the time:confusedshrug: )

[fiddy]

:sleeping :sleeping

[NumberSix]

The NBA exec said he IS an NBA player. Meaning he IS at the level NOW.

Learn to read TROLL.
Sure. Tony Douglas is an NBA player right now too.

[gabepizza]

Of course if we're serious, that an average/back up pf in euroleague can play as a starting center in a playoff nba team* says a lot.

If I was an NBA fan and that was all I liked about my life, I would get very angry as well. "Now even NBA isn't that special? What else is there for me?"



*Not to mention that he's established himself as the toughest mofo in the league a few months after arriving. :oldlol:


So a player who in the Euroleague final four was 3rd in minutes, 4th in points, and 2nd in rebounds for the eventual champions is average/back up...then I guess Chris Bosh is an average/back up pf in the Euroleague. So I wonder who is going to be the Euroleague final 4 MVP this year, Rudy Fernandez, Sonny Weems or Sergio Rodriquez! Can't wait for the talent to be put on display!!!!

[gabepizza]

:applause: :applause:
funny how people hate on an incredible talent like spanoulis who is the ultimate leader just because he doesnt play in the nba and just because they get trolled by euroleague( who, while being a troll, is right most of the time:confusedshrug: )

And you forgot to add just because he was a total scrub while playing the NBA averaging 2.7 a game and just because he got pawned by Ade Dagunduro and led a Greece team that got eliminated by Nigeria, the first time ever an African team eliminated anybody. And don't forgot getting thoroughly out played by players like Petteri Koponen while leading once proud Greece to 11th place in Euroleague and the WC. He couldn't hold a starting NBA pg's jock strap.

After being thoroughly outplayed and eliminated by Sergio Rodriquez he is no longer a scrub, he is the bi#$$achh of scrubs world wide.

[LONGTIME]

Mark Madsen was an NBA player.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/77de0605197d8248c84bed0c588802e6/tumblr_mi37x86Xjf1s1ulmko1_500.gif http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/1936518/mark-madsen-dancing-o.gif :bowdown: "Mad Dog"

[Threethrows]

Luke Babbit is an NBA player you mouth breathing psychopath.

[CavaliersFTW]

Euroleague's blood pressure goes hypertensive every time gabepizza makes a post :oldlol:

[Oly BC]

So a player who in the Euroleague final four was 3rd in minutes, 4th in points, and 2nd in rebounds for the eventual champions is average/back up...then I guess Chris Bosh is an average/back up pf in the Euroleague. So I wonder who is going to be the Euroleague final 4 MVP this year, Rudy Fernandez, Sonny Weems or Sergio Rodriquez! Can't wait for the talent to be put on display!!!!
The final 4 is only two games, therefore too small a sample. It comes down to the very specific match ups and the physical condition of the players on that weekend.

The whole season on the other hand, beginning in October and ending with the final 4 involves a variety of teams, a variety of match ups and people coming in and out of form all the time.
And what happened during the season is pretty plain, Antic was a back up pf with stats worse than those he got in his first NBA season as a center for a play off team.

[inclinerator]

take in to account that euroleague only plays 30 games a season, that's why they can put up those enormous numbers

15 points translates to roughly 2 ppg on a 80 game season, sounds about right

[gabepizza]

The final 4 is only two games, therefore too small a sample. It comes down to the very specific match ups and the physical condition of the players on that weekend.

The whole season on the other hand, beginning in October and ending with the final 4 involves a variety of teams, a variety of match ups and people coming in and out of form all the time.
And what happened during the season is pretty plain, Antic was a back up pf with stats worse than those he got in his first NBA season as a center for a play off team.


Only two games that is for the championship of the league therefore the most important two games of the season. I don't have time to compare the stats of Antic in the NBA vs Euroleague but again the stats are misleading because the NBA game is 8 minutes longer and all NBA stats are higher, I'm sure if we compared the stats to the rest of the league i.e. where Antic's stats placed him in the league (for example 11th in rpg) his stats would be better in Euroleague.

[Oly BC]

Only two games that is for the championship of the league therefore the most important two games of the season. I don't have time to compare the stats of Antic in the NBA vs Euroleague but again the stats are misleading because the NBA game is 8 minutes longer and all NBA stats are higher, I'm sure if we compared the stats to the rest of the league i.e. where Antic's stats placed him in the league (for example 11th in rpg) his stats would be better in Euroleague.
The games in top 16 that give you home court advantage are equally important. There is no "regular season coasting" here. And then you have elimination play offs and then the final 4. Much like you can't only be counting on one or two players but you need a *team* to succeed in the euroleague, you can't only afford to be in a good state for a couple of months. All your season counts with the exception of the opening stages which aren't much of a challenge for good teams.


As for Antic he had 6 ppg and 3.5 rpg on 35.4%fg in 18 minutes last season in euroleague and now has 7ppg, 4.2 rbg on 42%fg in 18.5 minutes.

Of course he started having a much bigger role as the season progressed and hawks realized that someone who was a back up pf in euroleague could boost his numbers playing as a starting center in the NBA.

[Rooster]

Technically he would be a top 5 combo guard.

Can't even beat Skip, Lucas and Head on the rotation.

He was top 5 on waving towels:oldlol:

[Rooster]

So a player who in the Euroleague final four was 3rd in minutes, 4th in points, and 2nd in rebounds for the eventual champions is average/back up...then I guess Chris Bosh is an average/back up pf in the Euroleague. So I wonder who is going to be the Euroleague final 4 MVP this year, Rudy Fernandez, Sonny Weems or Sergio Rodriquez! Can't wait for the talent to be put on display!!!!


In Europe, they are calling Weems, Sergio and Rudy

Superstars:roll:

And Langford who score a total of 2 points in the NBA:oldlol:

[Rooster]

The games in top 16 that give you home court advantage are equally important. There is no "regular season coasting" here. And then you have elimination play offs and then the final 4. Much like you can't only be counting on one or two players but you need a *team* to succeed in the euroleague, you can't only afford to be in a good state for a couple of months. All your season counts with the exception of the opening stages which aren't much of a challenge for good teams.


As for Antic he had 6 ppg and 3.5 rpg on 35.4%fg in 18 minutes last season in euroleague and now has 7ppg, 4.2 rbg on 42%fg in 18.5 minutes.

Of course he started having a much bigger role as the season progressed and hawks realized that someone who was a back up pf in euroleague could boost his numbers playing as a starting center in the NBA.

Starting center by default:applause:

Antic is much better the any Greek players though.

He's is proving it against the best competition :bowdown:

[outbreak]

Why do you need to take things to the extreme? He's definitely got nba level talent and people who disagree are trolling. It takes time to adapt to different leagues and even nba players need time to adjust to the euro league game style. But you go too far saying he's number one and ignore the fact that he didn't get minutes because he was playing like shit , out of shape and in a team that didn't need big minutes from him which upset him. If he had of stayed and accepted his role or tried to get moved to another team I believe he'd be a starter now.

[outbreak]

In Europe, they are calling Weems, Sergio and Rudy

Superstars:roll:

And Langford who score a total of 2 points in the NBA:oldlol:
Different league needs different styles, some players thrive in each situation. Of course the NBA is higher quality but dismissing the euro league and rattling off a handful of names is silly, t there's a lot of NBA players who would struggle in Europe too

[Rooster]

Different league needs different styles, some players thrive in each situation. Of course the NBA is higher quality but dismissing the euro league and rattling off a handful of names is silly, t there's a lot of NBA players who would struggle in Europe too


Sounds like a role player saga to me. :oldlol:

[Oly BC]

In the eurobasket Spain had Rudy, Sergio, Calderon and Rubio as its guards (maybe Rudy got minutes as a lightweight small forward, don't remember).
The results don't leave much room for doubt:

Rudy:
12.0 Points per game
4.0 Rebounds per game
1.9 Assists per game

Sergio:
9.8 Points per game
2.8 Rebounds per game
3.2 Assists per game

Calderon:
8.2 Points per game
1.5 Rebounds per game
2.4 Assists per game

Rubio:
7.2 Points per game
2.8 Rebounds per game
3.4 Assists per game


Same team, same coach, same rules, same opponents, different quality of players (also Navarro, Spain's co-leader for a decade, missed the tournament because of an injury).

[Smoke117]

Nobody cares, Euroleague. Get a life, mate.

[Bandito]

The coach of VSpan's team said I quote "Carlos Arroyo is an athletically and offensively superior player to Spanoullis. I would love to have him on my team. "

Why would a coach that doesnt even respect his own star earn the respect of the NBA?

[bdreason]

Of course if we're serious, that an average/back up pf in euroleague can play as a starting center in a playoff nba team* says a lot.

If I was an NBA fan and that was all I liked about my life, I would get very angry as well. "Now even NBA isn't that special? What else is there for me?"



*Not to mention that he's established himself as the toughest mofo in the league a few months after arriving. :oldlol:


Antic plays because they have nobody else. You should look at the Hawks record with Antic in the starting lineup... team went on a free-fall once the Hawks were forced to play him over Horford.

[Rooster]

The coach of VSpan's team said I quote "Carlos Arroyo is an athletically and offensively superior player to Spanoullis. I would love to have him on my team. "

Why would a coach that doesnt even respect his own star earn the respect of the NBA?

Carlos Arroyo was STUDDING in minor league.

He actually made Gatasaray relevant.

[Rooster]

In the eurobasket Spain had Rudy, Sergio, Calderon and Rubio as its guards (maybe Rudy got minutes as a lightweight small forward, don't remember).
The results don't leave much room for doubt:

Rudy:
12.0 Points per game
4.0 Rebounds per game
1.9 Assists per game

Sergio:
9.8 Points per game
2.8 Rebounds per game
3.2 Assists per game

Calderon:
8.2 Points per game
1.5 Rebounds per game
2.4 Assists per game

Rubio:
7.2 Points per game
2.8 Rebounds per game
3.4 Assists per game


Same team, same coach, same rules, same opponents, different quality of players (also Navarro, Spain's co-leader for a decade, missed the tournament because of an injury).

Role players galore.

You can add Navarro to the list.

Rudy Fernandez might win the Euroleague MVP

But just an afterthought here.

[Lebowski]

Dude works for the Bucks. He definitely knows NBA talent when he sees it.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/3320457/gold-jerry-gold-o.gif

[JUDGE WITNESS]

brian scalabrine is an nba player

[gabepizza]

The games in top 16 that give you home court advantage are equally important. There is no "regular season coasting" here. And then you have elimination play offs and then the final 4. Much like you can't only be counting on one or two players but you need a *team* to succeed in the euroleague, you can't only afford to be in a good state for a couple of months. All your season counts with the exception of the opening stages which aren't much of a challenge for good teams.


As for Antic he had 6 ppg and 3.5 rpg on 35.4%fg in 18 minutes last season in euroleague and now has 7ppg, 4.2 rbg on 42%fg in 18.5 minutes.

Of course he started having a much bigger role as the season progressed and hawks realized that someone who was a back up pf in euroleague could boost his numbers playing as a starting center in the NBA.

You just exposed yourself showing he played 1/2 a minute more in the NBA then in Euroleague and Euroleague games are 8 minutes longer so really he played a larger % of the games in Euroleague then he did in the NBA and you also know very well the 6/3.5 mean a lot more in Euroleague than 7/4.2 mean in the NBA. And most importantly in Euroleague he was a rotation player on a two time champion while in the NBA he is a rotation player on a team, that although a playoff team, is not one of the top 15 teams in the league.

[TheMagicMan]

Lmaooooooooo @ the thread title. Who changed it? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[gabepizza]

In the eurobasket Spain had Rudy, Sergio, Calderon and Rubio as its guards (maybe Rudy got minutes as a lightweight small forward, don't remember).
The results don't leave much room for doubt:

Rudy:
12.0 Points per game
4.0 Rebounds per game
1.9 Assists per game

Sergio:
9.8 Points per game
2.8 Rebounds per game
3.2 Assists per game

Calderon:
8.2 Points per game
1.5 Rebounds per game
2.4 Assists per game

Rubio:
7.2 Points per game
2.8 Rebounds per game
3.4 Assists per game


Same team, same coach, same rules, same opponents, different quality of players (also Navarro, Spain's co-leader for a decade, missed the tournament because of an injury).


What's you point? Rubio and Calderon all not even all stars forget about all NBA 3rd team while Fernandez and Sergio are first team all Euroleague. And the best player on that team was Marc Gasol BTW (and you also didn't put steals which Rubio led the whole tournament in.

[Oly BC]

You just exposed yourself showing he played 1/2 a minute more in the NBA then in Euroleague and Euroleague games are 8 minutes longer so really he played a larger % of the games in Euroleague then he did in the NBA
I think that is the hardest anyone has tried ever. :roll:

You are forgetting that teams in euroleague actually rotate their players and that Antic started the season on the bench. In the end he played just as much time and got better stats. Stop making a fool of yourself and just accept that back up pfs from euroleague can walk straight in an NBA court and even bully those "tough" guys you have there.

[Oly BC]

What's you point? Rubio and Calderon all not even all stars forget about all NBA 3rd team while Fernandez and Sergio are first team all Euroleague. And the best player on that team was Marc Gasol BTW (and you also didn't put steals which Rubio led the whole tournament in.
Rubio and Calderon are starting guards and they're worse than Sergio and Rudy who are in turn worse than Spanoulis (even if this season they were good, Sergio shot a phenomenal 50% beyond the arch, hard to see him repeating that).

Which would make Spanoulis a great starting guard for a team playing actual basketball like the Spurs. Maybe it would be better for his bank account if he had accepted their offer back in 2007 I think. Still, I'm pretty happy with how things turned out since Olympiacos built a great team around him.

[Smook A.]

Lmaooooooooo @ the thread title. Who changed it? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Probably one of the mods.

Real Men Wear Green, im guessing.

[Dengness9]

Classic.

I hope my Chicago Sky can ink him to a 10 dayer.

[TheMagicMan]

Probably one of the mods.

Real Men Wear Green, im guessing.

Real Men Wear Green have my babies pls

[Smook A.]

I wonder what Euroleague is thinking right now :lol

How does it feel to get owned BITCH

[Rooster]

Rubio and Calderon are starting guards and they're worse than Sergio and Rudy who are in turn worse than Spanoulis (even if this season they were good, Sergio shot a phenomenal 50% beyond the arch, hard to see him repeating that).

Which would make Spanoulis a great starting guard for a team playing actual basketball like the Spurs. Maybe it would be better for his bank account if he had accepted their offer back in 2007 I think. Still, I'm pretty happy with how things turned out since Olympiacos built a great team around him.

Wishful thinking.

A player who is a turnover machine

Can't shoot

Can't guard a lick

Will never make it to Pop rotation

[ArbitraryWater]

Probably one of the mods.

Real Men Wear Green, im guessing.

Probably? :lol

[MrC1991]

Euroleague...did you know there is a international forum? FYI

[gabepizza]

Rubio and Calderon are starting guards and they're worse than Sergio and Rudy who are in turn worse than Spanoulis (even if this season they were good, Sergio shot a phenomenal 50% beyond the arch, hard to see him repeating that).

Which would make Spanoulis a great starting guard for a team playing actual basketball like the Spurs. Maybe it would be better for his bank account if he had accepted their offer back in 2007 I think. Still, I'm pretty happy with how things turned out since Olympiacos built a great team around him.

You are forgetting that both Sergio and Rudy spent many years in the NBA. Sergio spend 4 years in the NBA and was never a starter and he was first team all-Euroleague PG while Spanoulis was 2nd team.

[josh99]

Remember that time when Greece lost to Nigeria? :oldlol:

[Iceman#44]

Remember that time when Greece lost to Nigeria? :oldlol:
:roll: :roll: :applause:

[Euroleague]

First of all, you really have to stop using quotation marks quoting me. You know I never said anything about Pero Antic. If you can find the link with me in it talking about Pero Antic, I will make a thread, " Euroleague is the GOAT poster"....Deal?

That is a lie, and you know it.

Second of all, Vspan's game is very different from a Prigioni or a Calderon. Vspan, as I said, likes to control the game with his penetration. He likes to be the "Tmac"... Calderon is a role player type PG who's very efficient, but can never be a star. Prigioni is a good defensive PG, and right now, that's about it with him due to his age.

Spanoulis is a make or break type PG. He has the potential to be a star, but due to his lack of elite athleticism, he is not very efficient, and is likely to be a bust. This is what he was with Houston. Maybe a smarter head coach could use him better, but with his advanced age, an NBA GM would think twice.

Thirdly, we all know you believe the NBA>EL. Every year you make a thread where one or several NBA GMs want to get VSpan. We've all lost track by now with all the teams that supposedly wanted him. The Raptors, Mavs, Knicks, Lakers, Sixers, who else?

And every time you make that thread you are celebrating...Hmmmmm..Now why would you want Spanoulis to go to an inferior league?

Hmmmmm...:facepalm

In other words, you are a lying, moron, a ****ing idiot, and a trolling SOB.

And Spanoulis plays absolutely NOTHING like T-Mac you ****ing IDIOT.

All this "he likes to penetrate" bullshit.

He is double and triple teamed every game idiot. It just proves again and again that you have never ever seen him play. The opposing defense keeps him 20-30 feet from the basket at almost the entire game you freaking moron.

[alexd]

In other words, you are a lying, moron, a ****ing idiot, and a trolling SOB.

And Spanoulis plays absolutely NOTHING like T-Mac you ****ing IDIOT.

All this "he likes to penetrate" bullshit.

He is double and triple teamed every game idiot.It just proves again and again that you have never ever seen him play. The opposing defense keeps 20-30 feet from the basket at almost the entire game you freaking moron.

i think everyone agrees with that :roll: :roll:

[Euroleague]

Spanloulis's team was just eliminated in a series by a team whose best players are Rudy Fernandez and Sergio Rodriquez. Rodriquez was also selected to 1st team all-Euroleague while Spanloulis was 2nd team all-euroleague. So Spanoulis is basically a poor man's Rodriquez. Rodriquez spent four years in the NBA averaging 4.3ppg and 2.9apg. So Spanoulis would be a little worse then that, in other words a bad back-up at best.

Other "first team-Euroleague" selections Sonny Weems and Keith Langford. Euroleague is about the same level of the D-league.

And the times Spanoulis got to compete against players from other leagues recently in FIBA competition he got outplayed by Ade Dagunduro when Greece got eliminated by Nigeria and led Greece to 11th places in 2010 and 2013 being outplayed by such greats as Petteri Koponen.

Spanoulis is one of the biggest scrubs and chokers in the history of basketball. Yes in the low level of Euroleague he is a top player but in the NBA and FIBA he has been like a man against boys. And don't let Euroleague tell you about his exploits with Greece pre-2007. It was Papaloukas who led Greece the silver medal in 2006 that's why he has selected for All-tournament team not Spanoulis. Once Papaloukas retired and left the team in Spanoulis' hands he has turned the team around from a top world team to a laughing stock which gets embarrassed by Finland and Nigeria.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHNtJnCrwRM

Yeah, Papaloukas "led Greece to the win over USA in 2006" - I guess that explains why Spanoulis made every single key play and basket and hit every single shot down the stretch.

I guess that explains why Spanoulis had the ball in his hands in the entire 4th quarter to go one on one at the end of the game to close out the game and win the game single handed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHNtJnCrwRM

gabepizza, the sociopathic, narcissistic, pathological liar at it again.

[Euroleague]

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/teams/showteamstats?clubcode=OLY&seasoncode=E2012

Yes Antic was the 7th or 8th man but when Olympiacos won the championship last year, in the final four he was 3rd on the team in minutes, 4th on the Euroleague champions in points and 2nd in rebounds for the Euroleague champions and goes to being a starting center on the worst of the 16 NBA play-off team that ended the season with a losing record, just one game ahead of my crappy Knicks.

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/teams/showteamstats?clubcode=OLY&seasoncode=E2012

Antic was the 7th man of Olympiacos.

It's a statistical FACT.

gabepizza once again PROVEN to be a psychopathic FREAK.

[Euroleague]

Of course if we're serious, that an average/back up pf in euroleague can play as a starting center in a playoff nba team* says a lot.

If I was an NBA fan and that was all I liked about my life, I would get very angry as well. "Now even NBA isn't that special? What else is there for me?"



*Not to mention that he's established himself as the toughest mofo in the league a few months after arriving. :oldlol:

gabepizza is a complete psychopath NBA only fan. He really believes this fantasy land shit that NBA is a "billion times superior to Euroleague".

The fact was Kostas Tsartsaris even destroyed Antic, then retired a few days after.

I like Antic, he's a very good player. And of course he could always play in NBA. But that IS THE WHOLE POINT. These same clowns were here claiming how Olympiacos was a joke and no one on their entire team could even make an NBA roster when they were winning Euroleague titles and how the NBA champion would destroy them by 50 points.

Then the crazy delusional NBA only fans worst nightmare happened. Some role player (let's be honest, that's really what he was) from the team became a starter in an NBA playoff team.

Not like he was an important player in the Hawks or anything. But the point stands.

It just shows what lunatics these NBA only fanatics truly are.

And while they rave about how superior the holy NBA is, the truth is, not a single one of them has ever in their entire lives even seen a Euroleague game.

Every single year there are numerous average Euroleague players, and even SCRUB Euroleague players going to the NBA and becoming rotation players, 6th men, and starters.

These NBA only fans are completely INSANE and they need to STFU.

[Euroleague]

So a player who in the Euroleague final four was 3rd in minutes, 4th in points, and 2nd in rebounds for the eventual champions is average/back up...then I guess Chris Bosh is an average/back up pf in the Euroleague. So I wonder who is going to be the Euroleague final 4 MVP this year, Rudy Fernandez, Sonny Weems or Sergio Rodriquez! Can't wait for the talent to be put on display!!!!

So when does Mario Chalmers get inducted into the hall of fame?

This ass clown gabepizza thinks he's clever or something? It's so amusing to have a guy with a sub 65 IQ trying to argue.

[Euroleague]

And you forgot to add just because he was a total scrub while playing the NBA averaging 2.7 a game and just because he got pawned by Ade Dagunduro and led a Greece team that got eliminated by Nigeria, the first time ever an African team eliminated anybody. And don't forgot getting thoroughly out played by players like Petteri Koponen while leading once proud Greece to 11th place in Euroleague and the WC. He couldn't hold a starting NBA pg's jock strap.

After being thoroughly outplayed and eliminated by Sergio Rodriquez he is no longer a scrub, he is the bi#$$achh of scrubs world wide.

Oh yes, the same Ade Dagunduro that you spent about 6 months in this forum calling "the best player in Europe"..........

The same guy that you spent 6 months in this forum saying "I GUARANTEE he will destroy and dominate all of Europe and be the Euroleague MVP and champion"....................

He was a SCRUB that averaged 1.3 points in the Italian League, got cut, and has never played basketball at the pro level since.

Kopponen.........was not guarded by Spanoulis and after the game the coach of Greece admitted he told Zisis (who was guarding him) to go under the screens and picks and that he made a mistake.

Trinchieri was way too inexperienced for that level as a coach and he made tons of coaching mistakes like that. He's a very talented young coach, but he didn't have the experience for such a tournament.

He admitted he told Zisis to go under all the screens and picks and leave Koponen open to shoot 3s as a strategy as a gamble to hope he would take them and miss them. And that even after he started hitting them he kept telling Zisis to keep letting him take them.

He admitted he did the same strategy in the game against Slovenia with Goran Dragic with Zisis guarding him in the first half of that game.

Finally he changed that in second half and Greece almost did a miracle comeback but it was too late by then. He admitted these were rookie coaching mistakes after the fact and he would have done it differently.

Greece lost due to the coach taking uncessary gambles because he was inexperienced. That's why he got fired.

For you to blame that on Spanoulis, who wasn't even actually involved in any of those plays defensively shows what a ****ing POS you are.

Rodriguez............."thoroughly outplayed Spanoulis"...........

WTF kind of drugs are you on?

First of all, neither one of them even guarded each other you ****ing idiot. Because Sergio is such a horrible defender that he can't guard anyone, let alone someone like Spanoulis.

Spanoulis was guarded by Tremell Darden and Dani Diez as the main defender because they have SIZE, LENGTH and athletic ability, with the DOUBLE team of Sergio Llull, Rudy Fernandez and then the HELP triple team of the second defender was the big man of guys like Felipe Reyes and Nikola Mirotic.

Sergio Rodriguez had nothing to do with it IDIOT.

Spanoulis was guarding Darden, Diez, Carroll, Llull, Fernandez and guys like that.

Sergio Rodriguez was SINGLE defended, not double and tripled, and was guarded mainly by guys like Sloukas and Mantzaris.

And Spanoulis has a MUCH MUCH MUCH better series than Rodriguez did you ****ing POS lying scum bag.

Actually, Rodriguez didn't even play good at all. He actually pretty much played mediocre. Mantzaris played just as good or better than he did.

You once again, AGAIN LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE. And you pretend like you watched that series, when your comments are blatantly obvious that you did not watch a single ****ing second of it.

You are a really sick guy.

[Euroleague]

Luke Babbit is an NBA player you mouth breathing psychopath.

Yeah, and he was an average role player in the league level BELOW Euroleague.

[Black and White]

Face it Euroleague, Vassilis Garbageolous is not good enough to be a star in the NBA, nothing you say or do will change that.

[TheMagicMan]

Oh yes, the same Ade Dagunduro that you spent about 6 months in this forum calling "the best player in Europe"..........

The same guy that you spent 6 months in this forum saying "I GUARANTEE he will destroy and dominate all of Europe and be the Euroleague MVP and champion"....................

He was a SCRUB that averaged 1.3 points in the Italian League, got cut, and has never played basketball at the pro level since.

Kopponen.........was not guarded by Spanoulis and after the game the coach of Greece admitted he told Zisis (who was guarding him) to go under the screens and picks and that he made a mistake.

Trinchieri was way too inexperienced for that level as a coach and he made tons of coaching mistakes like that. He's a very talented young coach, but he didn't have the experience for such a tournament.

He admitted he told Zisis to go under all the screens and picks and leave Koponen open to shoot 3s as a strategy as a gamble to hope he would take them and miss them. And that even after he started hitting them he kept telling Zisis to keep letting him take them.

He admitted he did the same strategy in the game against Slovenia with Goran Dragic with Zisis guarding him in the first half of that game.

Finally he changed that in second half and Greece almost did a miracle comeback but it was too late by then. He admitted these were rookie coaching mistakes after the fact and he would have done it differently.

Greece lost due to the coach taking uncessary gambles because he was inexperienced. That's why he got fired.

For you to blame that on Spanoulis, who wasn't even actually involved in any of those plays defensively shows what a ****ing POS you are.

Rodriguez............."thoroughly outplayed Spanoulis"...........

WTF kind of drugs are you on?

First of all, neither one of them even guarded each other you ****ing idiot. Because Sergio is such a horrible defender that he can't guard anyone, let alone someone like Spanoulis.

Spanoulis was guarded by Tremell Darden and Dani Diez as the main defender because they have SIZE, LENGTH and athletic ability, with the DOUBLE team of Sergio Llull, Rudy Fernandez and then the HELP triple team of the second defender was the big man of guys like Felipe Reyes and Nikola Mirotic.

Sergio Rodriguez had nothing to do with it IDIOT.

Spanoulis was guarding Darden, Diez, Carroll, Llull, Fernandez and guys like that.

Sergio Rodriguez was SINGLE defended, not double and tripled, and was guarded mainly by guys like Sloukas and Mantzaris.

And Spanoulis has a MUCH MUCH MUCH better series than Rodriguez did you ****ing POS lying scum bag.

Actually, Rodriguez didn't even play good at all. He actually pretty much played mediocre. Mantzaris played just as good or better than he did.

You once again, AGAIN LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE. And you pretend like you watched that series, when your comments are blatantly obvious that you did not watch a single ****ing second of it.

You are a really sick guy.

Reported.

[CavaliersFTW]

Filing a RACISM report to abuse.

[Euroleague]

take in to account that euroleague only plays 30 games a season, that's why they can put up those enormous numbers

15 points translates to roughly 2 ppg on a 80 game season, sounds about right

Olympiacos (Spanoulis' team) Schedule 2013-14

2 games World Club Cup

29 games Euroleague

2 games Greek Cup

28 games Greek League and it's still ongoing with probably about 8-9 more games left.

That's 61 games so far with 8-9 games left, and maybe even more than that depending on how the season plays out.

So they are looking at about 70 games this year, and that's about how many games they played last year also.

NBA only fans AGAIN create another one of their BIGGEST and MOST FAVORITE of all MYTHS, the "they only play 30 games a year in Europe" BULLSHIT.

Actually, most Euroleague teams play between, on average, 70 to 90 games a year.

And yet, NBA only fans still keep up this BULLSHIT claim that the teams only play "30 games a year".

:facepalm :rolleyes: :biggums:

[Im Still Ballin]

Can you please PM me Euroleague for more intense Basketball discussion.

[stalkerforlife]

There are players on the STREETS that could play in the NBA, but they will never be given the opportunity. Success is about opportunity. Heck, there are players in the NBA right now that never play but they can ball. I know for a fact Jimmer Fredette could run a team and be an all-star, but he has never been given an opportunity.

[Threethrows]

Yeah, and he was an average role player in the league level BELOW Euroleague.

Repped for getting it. If Spanoulis were in the NBA today, he'd be slightly above D-league level where as Babbit is at D-league level. Playing in Euroleague has really helped Spanoulis prepare for D-league domination.

[Euroleague]

Only two games that is for the championship of the league therefore the most important two games of the season. I don't have time to compare the stats of Antic in the NBA vs Euroleague but again the stats are misleading because the NBA game is 8 minutes longer and all NBA stats are higher, I'm sure if we compared the stats to the rest of the league i.e. where Antic's stats placed him in the league (for example 11th in rpg) his stats would be better in Euroleague.

This clown always does this. Every time someone gives an example of a Euroleague player with same, similar, or better numbers in NBA as compared to Euroleague he claims it is all invalid because the NBA game is 8 minutes longer..........

You FREAK.

First, if the NBA game is 8 minutes longer, then that is MORE time to have BETTER stats.

Second, the MINUTES PLAYED PER GAME STAT is right there in front of you MORON.

A guy plays 15 minutes per game in each league, and as an example, you come back with,

"It's invalid due to they play 8 minute longer games in the NBA".

:lol :oldlol: :roll: :facepalm :rolleyes: :biggums:

Yeah, as if playing the EXACT same amount of minutes per game is "invalid".

FREAKING MEGA TROLL.

Amazingly though, NEVER ONCE do you EVER say that if it is turned around the other way. Like if a guy has slightly, SLIGHTLY (because NEVER EVER does ANYONE EVER have a big stat increase from NBA to Euroleague) ...

if a guy gets slightly better numbers going from NBA to Euroleague, NEVER once do you say "it's invalid because they play less minutes.

And NEVER once do you say the other way if a player comes from Euroleague and has smaller numbers coming to NBA.

You are a colossal hypocrite of the most gigantic order.

If what you claim is true, then Spanoulis' stats in the NBA are also "invalid", since "they play 8 minutes more".

If Antic's stats are "invalid", due to "playing 8 minutes more", then so are Spanoulis'. Of course, here you are in this very same thread, touting Spanoulis' NBA stats as absolute statistical PROOF that he is not good enough to play in the NBA.

HYPOCRITE.

LIAR.

[Euroleague]

Can't even beat Skip, Lucas and Head on the rotation.

He was top 5 on waving towels:oldlol:

Alston that has been out of basketball for years?

Lucas that played for years in Europe and got cut by several small Italian League clubs? That never made it higher than even a mid level Italian League club?

Luther Head that got cut by the worst team in the Spanish League?

Luther Head that got cut by the worst team in the Greek League?

Rooster ---> another sub 65 IQ mega troll.

[Euroleague]

In Europe, they are calling Weems, Sergio and Rudy

Superstars:roll:

And Langford who score a total of 2 points in the NBA:oldlol:

If by "they" you mean YOU, then yes, "they" are calling them superstars.

No one in Europe calls Weems, Rodriguez, or Langford "superstars".

Rudy is not even considered one.

IF, IF, IF, IF he leads Real Madrid to the Euroleague championship, gets the Final Four MVP THIS YEAR, then yeah, he's a superstar in Europe. But ONLY then.

He's on the cusp of it, but he STILL has to actually lead his team to the championship THIS year to actually be one.

The others are no way in hell "superstars" in Europe.

You are a complete crackhead.

[Euroleague]

Starting center by default:applause:

Antic is much better the any Greek players though.

He's is proving it against the best competition :bowdown:

I guess that's why he got dominated against Kostas Tsartsaris last year.

:rolleyes:

Half of it was bad calls by the refs, but half of it was just him getting his ass kicked.

[Euroleague]

Why do you need to take things to the extreme? He's definitely got nba level talent and people who disagree are trolling. It takes time to adapt to different leagues and even nba players need time to adjust to the euro league game style. But you go too far saying he's number one and ignore the fact that he didn't get minutes because he was playing like shit , out of shape and in a team that didn't need big minutes from him which upset him. If he had of stayed and accepted his role or tried to get moved to another team I believe he'd be a starter now.

He came directly from the Greek national team. How the hell was he "out of shape"? So are you saying he abused Team USA being out of shape?

[JohnFreeman]

Euroleague sucks

[Im Still Ballin]

Euroleague Stop ignoring me and chuck us a PM, big boy.

[tjgoHAM]

didn't read any of this shit

[JUDGE WITNESS]

big deal theres a d-league in europe

[Rooster]

If by "they" you mean YOU, then yes, "they" are calling them superstars.

No one in Europe calls Weems, Rodriguez, or Langford "superstars".

Rudy is not even considered one.

IF, IF, IF, IF he leads Real Madrid to the Euroleague championship, gets the Final Four MVP THIS YEAR, then yeah, he's a superstar in Europe. But ONLY then.

He's on the cusp of it, but he STILL has to actually lead his team to the championship THIS year to actually be one.

The others are no way in hell "superstars" in Europe.

You are a complete crackhead.


The All-Euroleague First Team features five superstars from four different teams: Sergio Rodriguez and Rudy Fernandez from Real Madrid, Keith Langford from EA7 Emporio Armani Milan, Sonny Weems from CSKA Moscow and Ante Tomic from FC Barcelona.


Sonny Weems, CSKA Moscow :bowdown: :bowdown:
In his second season with CSKA Moscow, Sonny Weems reaffirmed his status as one of the best clutch scorers in the Turkish Airlines Euroleague. Weems, 27, was a major factor in his team's success, both as its top scorer and the go-to guy with games on the line.:roll:


Weems is doing Lebron impersonation in minor league.:roll: :roll:

[Rooster]

If by "they" you mean YOU, then yes, "they" are calling them superstars.

No one in Europe calls Weems, Rodriguez, or Langford "superstars".

Rudy is not even considered one.

IF, IF, IF, IF he leads Real Madrid to the Euroleague championship, gets the Final Four MVP THIS YEAR, then yeah, he's a superstar in Europe. But ONLY then.

He's on the cusp of it, but he STILL has to actually lead his team to the championship THIS year to actually be one.

The others are no way in hell "superstars" in Europe.

You are a complete crackhead.


Did you say Keith Langford who scored 2 points in the NBA.:facepalm

This season's winner of the Alphonso Ford Top Scorer Trophy, Keith Langford was the force that led EA7 Emporio Armani Milan to the brink of the Final Four. Langford, 30, not only led the competition in scoring (17.6 ppg.), but thanks to his all-around contributions, also had the highest average performance index rating (17.7) among all Euroleague players. :bowdown:

Scrubs be like beastin in Minor league.:applause: :roll:

[Euroleague]

The coach of VSpan's team said I quote "Carlos Arroyo is an athletically and offensively superior player to Spanoullis. I would love to have him on my team. "

Why would a coach that doesnt even respect his own star earn the respect of the NBA?

The other psychopath liar appears. The coach of Carlos Arroyo's team said on YouTube Spanoulis is the best player in Europe, and was his first choice to sign (BEFORE Arroyo) and that he did everything possible to get him in the team and was willing to spend any amount of money possible to sign him and build the whole team around him. All of this BEFORE they even offered a thing to Arroyo, who just happened to get offered LESS THAN HALF the money Spanoulis was offered by them.........


Here it is, all on video, aired live on Turkish television:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmLi8Z7gRvY


This can be CONFIRMED at the club's own YouTube channel, again in Turkish television, by the club's assistant sports director, also right here on video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOoWufjCSp4


This Bandito is the same psychopathic pathological liar that spent the last 3 years in this forum saying that "Arroyo is the best player in Europe, he just does not play in Euroleague. But if he played in Euroleague, he would for sure guaranteed win the Euroleague MVP, lead the league in scoring, and win the Euroleague championship".

He also GUARANTEED this year, since Arroyo was finally playing in Euroleague, that "Arroyo will for sure 100% win the Euroleague MVP this year". He even said that, "everyone in the media even announced it on television that he was for sure going to win the MVP award, because his level of play was so incredibly dominant."

Of course, the clown mega trolls gabepizza, Rooster, CavsFTW, and Dr.J4ever started joining in on that also, with gabepizza even also guaranteeing that Arroyo would be in the All-Euroleague team as well.

The mega clown trolls were all wrong, as they ALWAYS are.

P.S., Spanoulis' coach NEVER said that.

Bandito - I suggest you STFU, before I destroy you even more.

[Euroleague]

Did you say Keith Langford who scored 2 points in the NBA.:facepalm

This season's winner of the Alphonso Ford Top Scorer Trophy, Keith Langford was the force that led EA7 Emporio Armani Milan to the brink of the Final Four. Langford, 30, not only led the competition in scoring (17.6 ppg.), but thanks to his all-around contributions, also had the highest average performance index rating (17.7) among all Euroleague players. :bowdown:

Scrubs be like beastin in Minor league.:applause: :roll:


Gary Neal - 2.3 points per game in the Euroleague...............

6th man/starter of the Spurs.

If you ever have an actual point, please free to make it.

[Im Still Ballin]

Gary Neal - 2.3 points per game in the Euroleague...............

6th man/starter of the Spurs.

If you ever have an actual point, please free to make it.
I pleased your girl last night. She was moaning and diggin' her nails into my back. HARD.

[Euroleague]

You just exposed yourself showing he played 1/2 a minute more in the NBA then in Euroleague and Euroleague games are 8 minutes longer so really he played a larger % of the games in Euroleague then he did in the NBA and you also know very well the 6/3.5 mean a lot more in Euroleague than 7/4.2 mean in the NBA. And most importantly in Euroleague he was a rotation player on a two time champion while in the NBA he is a rotation player on a team, that although a playoff team, is not one of the top 15 teams in the league.

We could make a list probably 50 names long of NBA rotation players that spent years in Europe and never even made a Euroleague roster.

You are digging your own grave with your unbelievable level of stupidity that truly knows no bounds.

You have been told these same things hundreds of times, and yet you just continue to be a complete ****ing idiot.

Just in one team THIS year, you had Antetokounmpo that came from Greece's D-League and Raduljica that was a scrub from lower leagues in former Yugo states.

A guy from Greece's D-League and a guy spending years in the minor leagues in Europe and trying to get to Euroleague...........

BAM --> right to the "NBA rotation player".

You are so pathetic that words don't even describe it.

[Im Still Ballin]

We could make a list probably 50 names long of NBA rotation players that spent years in Europe and never even made a Euroleague roster.

You are digging your own grave with your unbelievable level of stupidity that truly knows no bounds.

You have been told these same thing hundreds of times, and yet you just continue be a complete ****ing idiot.
You're damn right i was ****ing her punani. All. Night. Long.


Also: reported for swearing.

[Rooster]

Gary Neal - 2.3 points per game in the Euroleague...............

6th man/starter of the Spurs.

If you ever have an actual point, please free to make it.


Ricky Hickman joins the Scrubs on the Beast mode:bowdown:

He may have taken a longer road to stardom than the rest on this list, but Maccabi combo-guard Ricky Hickman is certainly reaping the fruits of his dedication and hard work. :oldlol:

Euroleague actually put stardom and his name on the same sentence.:roll: :roll:

[Black and White]

I pleased your man last night. He was moaning and diggin' his nails into my back. HARD.

Fixed for accuracy

[Euroleague]

brian scalabrine is an nba player

How sad then that he tried for a whole 2 years to make it onto a Euroleague team and could not.

2 whole years he tried to get a Euroleague contract and make the roster of a Euroleague team.....................and he COULD NOT.

But endless years upon years he was in the NBA.

:lol :oldlol: :roll: :facepalm :rolleyes:

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[Im Still Ballin]

How sad then that he tried for a whole 2 years to make it onto a Euroleague team and could not.

2 whole years he tried to get a Euroelague contract and make the roster of a Euroleague team.....................and he COULD NOT.

But endless years upon years he was in the NBA.

:lol :oldlol: :roll: :facepalm :rolleyes:

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Like the multiple orgasms i gave her.

[GimmeThat]

"You can come to our college and be a bench player, or you can go to another school and be a starter"

"good bye coach!"

[El Gato Negro]

This isn't nba news but im glad this dude i've never heard of finally learned to tie his shoes.

[Maga_1]

I'm not even going to get in the Spanoulis conversation, it's justing trolling right now.. i'm not going to give a serious answer.

What i'm going to do is saying that you guys can't even compare the Sergio Rodriguez that was in the NBA with the current Sergio Rodriguez.. they are way to different.

Rodriguez went to NBA too young, McMillan didn't play him enough.
Then when he was traded, every game that he started he did produce quite well as you can search but still, he was inconsistent.

Currently Rodriguez is being followed by 3 NBA teams (i made a thread some time ago about that, with a link) and he is the most consistent Point Guard outside the NBA, since he developed his outside shot and tried to cut down is turnovers because of flashy play style.

[Le Shaqtus]

Can't wait for neg to come back :lol

[DStebb716]

I just want to point out to the few who may not know yet: EuroLeague doesn't actually care this much about the Euroleague or ****** Spoonless. He's a very dedicated troll. More dedicated than any I've ever seen, but he doesn't truly believe any of the shit he says.

IGNORE.

[CavaliersFTW]

I just want to point out to the few who may not know yet: EuroLeague doesn't actually care this much about the Euroleague or ****** Spoonless. He's a very dedicated troll. More dedicated than any I've ever seen, but he doesn't truly believe any of the shit he says.

IGNORE.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=316678

[Manila]

Hi euroleague, this is a serious question. In your opinion, who is better between Michael jordan and Vspan? prime to prime.

Please answer my question euroleague :(

[dr.hee]

I'm not even going to get in the Spanoulis conversation, it's justing trolling right now.. i'm not going to give a serious answer.

What i'm going to do is saying that you guys can't even compare the Sergio Rodriguez that was in the NBA with the current Sergio Rodriguez.. they are way to different.

Rodriguez went to NBA too young, McMillan didn't play him enough.
Then when he was traded, every game that he started he did produce quite well as you can search but still, he was inconsistent.

Currently Rodriguez is being followed by 3 NBA teams (i made a thread some time ago about that, with a link) and he is the most consistent Point Guard outside the NBA, since he developed his outside shot and tried to cut down is turnovers because of flashy play style.

Do you know which teams are interested in him?

[Oly BC]

You are forgetting that both Sergio and Rudy spent many years in the NBA. Sergio spend 4 years in the NBA and was never a starter and he was first team all-Euroleague PG while Spanoulis was 2nd team.
And all players remain stagnant. In the same world where all coaches are infallible.


Just relax, you'll get another good look at all of them in the world cup.

[Euroleague]

What's you point? Rubio and Calderon all not even all stars forget about all NBA 3rd team while Fernandez and Sergio are first team all Euroleague. And the best player on that team was Marc Gasol BTW (and you also didn't put steals which Rubio led the whole tournament in.

Pablo Prigioni being the starting point guard for the New York Knicks in the NBA playoffs after being cut by two Euroleague teams and being a washed up has been that nobody in Euroleague wanted.

You forgot to mention that.

What was your point exactly?

:facepalm :rolleyes:

:biggums:

[Smook A.]

Pablo Prigioni being the starting point guard for the New York Knicks in the NBA playoffs after being cut by two Euroleague teams and being a washed up has been that nobody in Euroleague wanted.

You forgot to mention that.

What was your point exactly?

:facepalm :rolleyes:

:biggums:
He was on 3 different teams in 9 seasons retard.

Pablo was on one of those teams for 6 seasons. What do you mean NOBODY wanted him? :coleman:

Atleast he's lasted in the NBA longer than Vasillis Spanpoopis

[Euroleague]

i think everyone agrees with that :roll: :roll:

Everyone in Greece is laughing at Diamantidis. He is a complete joke and laughing stock these days.

Evidently he should have spent some of his summers training, rather than laying on the beach and sipping drinks all day.

He's the oldest looking 33 year old player in history.

[TheMagicMan]

Everyone in Greece is laughing at Diamantidis. He is a complete joke and laughing stock these days.

Evidently he should have spent some of his summers training, rather than laying on the beach and sipping drinks all day.

He's the oldest looking 33 year old player in history.

Reported for racism.

[Euroleague]

Weems is doing Lebron impersonation in minor league.:roll: :roll:

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?clubcode=CSK&pcode=003443&seasoncode=E2013

Yeah, that 12.6 points per game is a hell of a "LeBron impersonation'.....

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Smook A.]

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?clubcode=CSK&pcode=003443&seasoncode=E2013

Yeah, that 12.6 points per game is a hell of a "LeBron impersonation'.....

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
He's better than Spanpoopis

[Dr.J4ever]

Pablo Prigioni being the starting point guard for the New York Knicks in the NBA playoffs after being cut by two Euroleague teams and being a washed up has been that nobody in Euroleague wanted.

You forgot to mention that.

What was your point exactly?

:facepalm :rolleyes:

:biggums:

I guess you're going to insist on your lies repeatedly. I already corrected you twice on this. Prigioni was not cut. Here is the proof which has been provided here twice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Prigioni

[Euroleague]

I'm not even going to get in the Spanoulis conversation, it's justing trolling right now.. i'm not going to give a serious answer.

What i'm going to do is saying that you guys can't even compare the Sergio Rodriguez that was in the NBA with the current Sergio Rodriguez.. they are way to different.

Rodriguez went to NBA too young, McMillan didn't play him enough.
Then when he was traded, every game that he started he did produce quite well as you can search but still, he was inconsistent.

Currently Rodriguez is being followed by 3 NBA teams (i made a thread some time ago about that, with a link) and he is the most consistent Point Guard outside the NBA, since he developed his outside shot and tried to cut down is turnovers because of flashy play style.

Sergio is very good and of course he can play in the NBA. These clowns saying otherwise are retarded. He already did play in the NBA for 4 years and chose to leave.

The only problems with Sergio is,

1. He still can't guard anyone (but no one gives one damn about that in the NBA at all, as no one plays defense at PG in the NBA except maybe Rubio)

and

2. He is still 80% relying in his scoring on outside shooting off the dribble. He's gotten to where he is extremely deadly with that against no defense (up until he saw Olympiacos or that would be basically any time you would play in the NBA). Against the real defense of Olympiacos they basically shut him down completely. But again, you never ever see a defense remotely that good in NBA.

So, he certainly can make things happen, and actually he probably would fit much better in the NBA. Really, he's still not nearly strong or physical enough to make it to the best in Euroleague.

To be in the best in Euroleague you have to be really good at defense and really strong and physical and he just does not have it. I think he's better off if he went to the NBA. While in contrast, just in his own team, someone like Llull is better off staying in Euroleague because he is much stronger and much more physical and much better in defense. So he's a better fit.

Of course these clowns are a total joke saying Rodriguez can't play in the NBA - just comparing him to the Spanish point guards that start in the NBA (Rubio and and Calderon), Rodriguez is better.

But Maga, seriously, come on, you have to tell these morons that Spanoulis is good enough to play in the NBA. This bullshit they are saying here is too ridiculous. Calling him a D-League level player, an NCAA level player.......

[Euroleague]

He's better than Spanpoopis

Weems doesn't think so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5p8ht_m5z0


The racist clown got owned again.

:facepalm

[Dr.J4ever]

Sergio is very good and of course he can play in the NBA. These clowns saying otherwise are retarded. He already did play in the NBA for 4 years and chose to leave.

The only problems with Sergio is,

1. He still can't guard anyone (but no one gives one damn about that in the NBA at all, as no one plays defense at PG in the NBA except maybe Rubio)

and

2. He is still 80% relying in his scoring on outside shooting off the dribble. He's gotten to where he is extremely deadly with that against no defense (up until he saw Olympiacos or that would be basically any time you would play in the NBA). Against the real defense of Olympiacos they basically shut him down completely. But again, you never ever see a defense remotely that good in NBA.

So, he certainly can make things happen, and actually he probably would fit much better in the NBA. Really, he's still not nearly strong or physical enough to make it to the best in Euroleague.

To be in the best in Euroleague you have to be really good at defense and really strong and physical and he just does not have it. I think he's better off if he went to the NBA. While in contrast, just in his own team, someone like Llull is better off staying in Euroleague because he is much stronger and much more physical and much better in defense. So he's a better fit.

Of course these clowns are a total joke saying Rodriguez can't play in the NBA - just comparing him to the Spanish point guards that start in the NBA (Rubio and and Calderon), Rodriguez is better.

But Maga, seriously, come on, you have to tell these morons that Spanoulis is good enough to play in the NBA. This bullshit they are saying here is too ridiculous. Calling him a D-League level player, an NCAA level player.......
Spanoulis should come back and play in the Dleague for a couple of months. Let's see him prove himself first. I think the Dleague will be good for him.

Hopefully he won't get overwhelmed too much or confused.

[Smook A.]

He doesn't think so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5p8ht_m5z0


The racist clown got owned again.

:facepalm
:lol You didnt own me.. lol you're such a dumbass

He's just saying that because he doesnt want to come off as a cocky person. Inside he KNOWS he's better than Spanpoopis

[Milbuck]

Euroleague STILL hasn't created a formal dunk contest :oldlol:

Those amateur, laughable unathletic, uncoordinated European scrubs know they'd be exposed for the abysmal athletes they are.

[tjgoHAM]

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/oh-my-god-who-the-hell-cares.jpg

[Euroleague]

I guess you're going to insist on your lies repeatedly. I already corrected you twice on this. Prigioni was not cut. Here is the proof which has been provided here twice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Prigioni

Oh the liar at it again. This freaking idiot can't grasp that there are such things as option years in contracts in Europe too, even though that's been explained at least 1,000 times to him.

[Smook A.]

Oh the liar at it again. This freaking idiot can't grasp that there such things as option years in contracts in Europe too, even though that's been explained at least 1,000 times to him.
He didn't get cut you moron

[Euroleague]

I just want to point out to the few who may not know yet: EuroLeague doesn't actually care this much about the Euroleague or ****** Spoonless. He's a very dedicated troll. More dedicated than any I've ever seen, but he doesn't truly believe any of the shit he says.

IGNORE.

LIES

[Euroleague]

Do you know which teams are interested in him?

He has a contract with Real Madrid through 2018 with an enormous buyout and a huge salary. It really does not matter.

http://www.euroleague.net/euroleaguenews/transactions/2013-14-signings/i/127829/8177/real-madrid-sergio-rodriguez-agree-through-2018

[KobesFinger]

How do you only have one red bar?

[Euroleague]

And all players remain stagnant. In the same world where all coaches are infallible.


Just relax, you'll get another good look at all of them in the world cup.

No he won't. He's one of those "basketball fans" that ONLY watches NBA games and that ONLY watches Team USA games (specifically the Olympics), and that incredibly annoyingly claims to watch EuroBasket, World Cup, Euroleague, etc. without having ever seen a single second of any of those competitions.

[Euroleague]

He was on 3 different teams in 9 seasons retard.

Pablo was on one of those teams for 6 seasons. What do you mean NOBODY wanted him? :coleman:

Atleast he's lasted in the NBA longer than Vasillis Spanpoopis

He was on Baskonia and after being on that team for a long time, he left for more money to go to Real Madrid when Messina got there. The same Messina you clowns like Dr.J4ever and gabepizza are drooling over and making up all these endless bullshit lies here like, "Messina is by far the best coach ever in Europe and anyone that disagrees is insane".

He went to Real Madrid and was a flop there, just like Messina was and they did not want him anymore, and after he played out his regular 2 years they did not pick up his 3rd option year and cut him.

Then he went back to Baskonia his previous team where he got a 1+1 contract (something these morons like gabepizza and Dr.J4ever simply are too dumb to mentally comprehend) where you get a year then an option year.

He played bad and after his year was up, they didn't want him anymore and didn't pick up his option and cut him.

These clown trolls like gabepizza and Dr.J4ever are such an outright embarrassment that they have spent the last 2 years in this forum claiming that Prigioni was the best point guard in Euroleague.

The truth is no one in Euroleague even wanted him anymore. He was a washed up has been. A washed up has been that a full year later was starting for the Knicks in the NBA playoffs and a full 2 years later was still a rotation player for the Knicks.

Every single Euroleague fan here can confirm that Prigioni was a washed up has been in Euroleague and has done so on DOZENS UPON DOZENS OF OCCASIONS.

But these psychos like gabepizza and Dr.J4ever continue to post in this forum that he was an "elite point guard in an elite Euroleague team", which is also a joke, as he was playing in one of the worst teams in Euroleague, since Baskonia is a pretty much a joke team in recent years.

And of course now you jump in with the the same bullshit.

But why should any of this be a surprise?

It's the same morons that claimed in this forum that Lamar Odom would be the Euroleague MVP. And he didn't even last 2 weeks before being cut by his team and being replaced by a 19 year old rookie.

Oh, but wait............................the Knicks wanted him too.

:lol :oldlol: :roll:

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

It's that "vastly athletically and genetically superior NBA" that these racists keep talking about here.

The same "superior" NBA where guys like Prigioni and Odom can evidently go to resurrect a career after being useless as far as Euroleague teams are concerned.

Of course, according to the NBA only fans, those guys "totally dominated Euroleague". I bet these same clowns would claim Odom averaged 30/20 or even 50/30 in Euroleague if you asked them.

I bet Rooster would claim just that if you asked him.


I mean seriously, just look at what all these same creeps were saying in this thread about Odom and how he was going to "destroy the Euroleague" right after he signed with Baskonia --->

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=326209

[Smook A.]

He was on Baskonia and after being on that team for a long time, he left for more money to go to Real Madrid when Messina got there. The same Messina you clowns like Dr.J4ever and gabepizza are drooling over and making up all these endless bullshit lies here like, "Messina is by far the best coach ever in Europe and anyone that disagrees is insane".

He went to Real Madrid and was a flop there, just like Messina was and they did not want him anymore, and after he played out his regular 2 years they did not pick up his 3rd option year and cut him.

Then he went back to Baskonia his previous team where he got a 1+1 contract (something these morons like gabepizza and Dr.J4ever simply are too dumb to mentally comprehend) where you get a year then an option year.

He played bad and after his year was up, they didn't want him anymore and didn't pick up his option and cut him.

These clown trolls like gabepizza and Dr.J4ever are such an outright embarrassment that they have spent the last 2 years in this forum claiming that Prigioni was the best point guard in Euroleague.

The truth is no one in Euroleague even wanted him anymore. He was a washed up has been. A washed up has been that a full year later was starting for the Knicks in the NBA playoffs and a full 2 years later was still a rotation player for the Knicks.

Every single Euroleague fan here can confirm that Prigioni was a washed up has been in Euroleague and has done so on DOZENS UPON DOZENS OF OCCASIONS.

But these psychos like gabepizza and Dr.J4ever continue to post in this forum that he was an "elite point guard in an elite Euroleague team" (which is also a joke, as he was playing in one of the worst teams in Euroleague, since Baskonia is a pretty much a joke team in recent years.

And of course now you jump in with the the same bullshit.

But why should any of this be a surprise?

It's the same morons that claimed in this forum that Lamar Odom would be the Euroleague MVP. And he didn't even last 2 weeks before being cut by his team and being replaced by a 19 year old rookie.

Oh, but wait............................the Knicks wanted him too.

:lol :oldlol: :roll:

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

It's that "vastly athletically and genetically superior NBA" that these racists keep talking about here.

The same "superior" NBA where guys like Prigioni and Odom can evidently go to resurrect a career after being useless as far as Euroleague teams are concerned.

Of course, according to the NBA only fans, those guys "totally dominated Euroleague". I bet these same clowns would claim Odom averaged 30/20 or even 50/30 in Euroleague if you asked them.

I bet Rooster would claim just that if you asked him.


[B]I mean seriously, just look at what all these creeps were saying in this thread --->]http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=326209
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/613/759/952.gif

I didnt wanna read... so I didnt :confusedshrug:

[Euroleague]

He didn't get cut you moron

Yes he did. Twice.

[Dr.J4ever]

He was on Baskonia and after being on that team for a long time, he left for more money to go to Real Madrid when Messina got there. The same Messina you clowns like Dr.J4ever and gabepizza are drooling over and making up all these endless bullshit lies here like, "Messina is by far the best coach ever in Europe and anyone that disagrees is insane".

He went to Real Madrid and was a flop there, just like Messina was and they did not want him anymore, and after he played out his regular 2 years they did not pick up his 3rd option year and cut him.

Then he went back to Baskonia his previous team where he got a 1+1 contract (something these morons like gabepizza and Dr.J4ever simply are too dumb to mentally comprehend) where you get a year then an option year.

He played bad and after his year was up, they didn't want him anymore and didn't pick up his option and cut him.

These clown trolls like gabepizza and Dr.J4ever are such an outright embarrassment that they have spent the last 2 years in this forum claiming that Prigioni was the best point guard in Euroleague.

The truth is no one in Euroleague even wanted him anymore. He was a washed up has been. A washed up has been that a full year later was starting for the Knicks in the NBA playoffs and a full 2 years later was still a rotation player for the Knicks.

Every single Euroleague fan here can confirm that Prigioni was a washed up has been in Euroleague and has done so on DOZENS UPON DOZENS OF OCCASIONS.

But these psychos like gabepizza and Dr.J4ever continue to post in this forum that he was an "elite point guard in an elite Euroleague team" (which is also a joke, as he was playing in one of the worst teams in Euroleague, since Baskonia is a pretty much a joke team in recent years.

And of course now you jump in with the the same bullshit.

But why should any of this be a surprise?

It's the same morons that claimed in this forum that Lamar Odom would be the Euroleague MVP. And he didn't even last 2 weeks before being cut by his team and being replaced by a 19 year old rookie.

Oh, but wait............................the Knicks wanted him too.

:lol :oldlol: :roll:

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

It's that "vastly athletically and genetically superior NBA" that these racists keep talking about here.

The same "superior" NBA where guys like Prigioni and Odom can evidently go to resurrect a career after being useless as far as Euroleague teams are concerned.

Of course, according to the NBA only fans, those guys "totally dominated Euroleague". I bet these same clowns would claim Odom averaged 30/20 or even 50/30 in Euroleague if you asked them.

I bet Rooster would claim just that if you asked him.


I mean seriously, just look at what all these creeps were saying in this thread --->

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=326209

Besides the fact that no one here said those things you keep putting in quotes and failing to provide a link once again for the Prigioni thing, you are again being deranged and delusional.

We all know you celebrated several times when you thought your god, Spanou, was going to the NBA. Why would you celebrate Vspan going to a weaker league?

You're a fake and a liar. Get out of this NBA ONLY FORUM. You are not wanted here.

REPORTED.

[Smook A.]

Yes he did. Twice.
V-Span is not the best player in the world