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Fudge
05-12-2014, 02:53 PM
2013 Spurs? 94 Sonics? 07 Mavs? 06 Mavs?

I have nothing but respect for SAS and what they've done, but that's gotta be up there. They had it in the bag.

Heavincent
05-12-2014, 02:55 PM
Spurs.

Le Shaqtus
05-12-2014, 02:57 PM
13 Spurs, 11 Heat are big ones

SilkkTheShocker
05-12-2014, 03:00 PM
The Spurs had a 5 point lead with 28 seconds left before they won a title. 04 Lakers, 11 Heat, 94 Sonics, and 06/07 Mavs are up there. But that was the worst one of them all.

Rik Smits' Hair
05-12-2014, 03:08 PM
13 Spurs

VengefulAngel
05-12-2014, 03:09 PM
Not the biggest but Nick Anderson's choke was pretty bad.

Spurs, lebron, dirk, magic.

^^ Just to name a few.

NumberSix
05-12-2014, 03:10 PM
2011 LeBron, 2004 lakers, 2007 Mavs, 2006 Lakers, 2013 Spurs.

ImKobe
05-12-2014, 03:10 PM
6, of course.

CelticBaller
05-12-2014, 03:11 PM
06 and 07 Mavs was bad

JebronLames
05-12-2014, 03:20 PM
2008 finals game 4

Marlo_Stanfield
05-12-2014, 03:21 PM
thunder should they fail to win it all withn the most stacked team in the league and gigantic ref help:coleman:

navy
05-12-2014, 03:23 PM
2011 LeBron, 2004 lakers, 2007 Mavs, 2006 Lakers, 2013 Spurs.
This. Plus Tragic Johnson.

SexSymbol
05-12-2014, 04:12 PM
06 wasn't a choke, that was the most rigged series ever without competition.

JUDGE WITNESS
05-12-2014, 04:14 PM
spurs

oarabbus
05-12-2014, 04:18 PM
How is 2013 Spurs a bigger choke than 2011 Heat

SilkkTheShocker
05-12-2014, 04:22 PM
How is 2013 Spurs a bigger choke than 2011 Heat

Spurs had a 5 point lead with 28 seconds left to close the Finals. They even voted for the Finals MVP on the Spurs at the time. I know you don't like Bron or Miami, but Spurs was definitely the top dog of bunch. 99 out of 100 times you win a game up 5 with less than 30 seconds left.

mistergreens
05-12-2014, 04:28 PM
Why do people act like Heat '11 was some massive all-time chokejob? Sure, they choked away a big lead in Game 2, but that was Game TWO. The other games were all pretty dang close, and Jason Terry single handedly won Game 6 with a great shooting performance. Did the Heat choke away a 5 point lead with under 30 seconds to go, up 3-2?

C'mon, the "CHOKE"-ness of the 2011 Heat is vastly exaggerrated due to its proximity to the decision the prior summer and continued jealous haters who can't get over the decision.

oarabbus
05-12-2014, 04:29 PM
Spurs had a 5 point lead with 28 seconds left to close the Finals. They even voted for the Finals MVP on the Spurs at the time. I know you don't like Bron or Miami, but Spurs was definitely the top dog of bunch. 99 out of 100 times you win a game up 5 with less than 30 seconds left.

Fair enough. I think Grizz's historic loss to the Clippers in the 1st round 2012 was one of the worst single game chokejobs of all time

Fudge
05-12-2014, 04:31 PM
Fair enough. I think Grizz's historic loss to the Thunder in the 1st round 2012 was one of the worst single game chokejobs of all time
Against the Clippers you mean.

SilkkTheShocker
05-12-2014, 04:35 PM
Fair enough. I think Grizz's historic loss to the Thunder in the 1st round 2012 was one of the worst single game chokejobs of all time

The Grizzlies game is up there. Lakers also blowing that huge lead in game 4 of the NBA Finals cost them big time. They could have tied the series up right there with Game 5 at home.

oarabbus
05-12-2014, 04:35 PM
Against the Clippers you mean.


:hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

Yes sir I meant the Clippers

BuffaloBill
05-12-2014, 04:37 PM
11' Lebron greatest chokejob of all time. Greatest disappearing act in sports history. it gave birth to so many jokes and nicknames that will never be forgotten :lol

SilkkTheShocker
05-12-2014, 04:39 PM
-06 and 07 Dallas are both really bad also. And I defend Dirk on here a ton. Up 2-0 in the series with 4th a quarter lead in game 3.

-Spurs losing to GS in the playoffs (D-Rob Era)

-Malone and Jazz losing to Dallas in 01 playoffs. Not the biggest choke because it was a 4 vs. 5 seed. But Utah blew a 2-0 series lead. And they did everything they could to blow the game in the 4th quarter

-2000 WCF, Game 7

-Detroit in 2007 letting a player with no post game and garbage teammates score 25 consecutive points

SilkkTheShocker
05-12-2014, 04:41 PM
11' Lebron greatest chokejob of all time. Greatest disappearing act in sports history. it gave birth to so many jokes and nicknames that will never be forgotten :lol

Honestly, if people gave a shit about TD or the Spurs you would hear more the 13 Finals choke. The 11 Finals is always going to sting, but not as bad as the 13 Finals would. The Spurs had a 1% chance of losing in that situation and they lost.

Young X
05-12-2014, 05:05 PM
'13 Spurs easy. They had so many opportunities to close out the series and they choked every time. I hope they don't make it to the finals again, I'm not tryna see these old geezers choke away another series when their are plenty teams that would've taken advantage of those moments.

20Four
05-12-2014, 05:06 PM
Honestly, if people gave a shit about TD or the Spurs you would hear more the 13 Finals choke. The 11 Finals is always going to sting, but not as bad as the 13 Finals would. The Spurs had a 1% chance of losing in that situation and they lost.
Why are you always negative? Does your life suck flipping burgers? Have you achieved any of your goals in life? I dont think so because if you did, you wouldn't be so negative :(

ninephive
05-12-2014, 05:09 PM
Spurs had a 5 point lead with 28 seconds left to close the Finals. They even voted for the Finals MVP on the Spurs at the time. I know you don't like Bron or Miami, but Spurs was definitely the top dog of bunch. 99 out of 100 times you win a game up 5 with less than 30 seconds left.
I hadn't heard about this...source?

20Four
05-12-2014, 05:09 PM
I hadn't heard about this...source?
Hes talking out of his ass like usual

SCdac
05-12-2014, 05:13 PM
LOL Tim Duncan was supposed to have retired like 2 seasons ago, just the fact they're making the Finals is amazing, Tony Parker is like a top-15 player in the league (not a super star). Lebron collapsed massively in his prime and other strong teams lead by MVP types have collapsed worse than the Spurs. Mavs come to mind with prime Dirk.

kennethgriffin
05-12-2014, 05:15 PM
The Spurs had a 5 point lead with 28 seconds left before they won a title. 04 Lakers, 11 Heat, 94 Sonics, and 06/07 Mavs are up there. But that was the worst one of them all.


2004 lakers got their butts kicked. not really a choke.


i see choking as "a chance to win, almost there. then losing it"

like if a team loses by 20 or 30. did they choke that night? no.. but if they were up 10 with 2 minutes left and lost. then its a choke


asside from that. the pistons were one of the all time great defensive teams. they were actually stacked when you look back at them. billups, rasheed, prince, big ben, rip, okur

and malone was injured. kobe/shaq fueding. payton no show. team imploading before the finals even started. kobe going through off court stuff



pistons won rightfully so.. cant knock them...

NumberSix
05-12-2014, 05:16 PM
Spurs had 4 FTA in the final 28 seconds. All they had to do was make 3 of them to secure the championship. Miami literally would have no way of coming back.

LeBron 06
05-12-2014, 05:18 PM
2013 spurs game 6
2011 heat game 2
2006 mavs game 3

aj1987
05-12-2014, 05:20 PM
06 wasn't a choke, that was the most rigged series ever without competition.
A Kobe stan talking about "rigging"? :oldlol:

Do you not remember '02 and '10?

ninephive
05-12-2014, 05:21 PM
LOL Tim Duncan was supposed to have retired like 2 seasons ago, just the fact they're making the Finals is amazing, Tony Parker is like a top-15 player in the league (not a super star). Lebron collapsed massively in his prime and other strong teams lead by MVP types have collapsed worse than the Spurs. Mavs come to mind with prime Dirk.
As far as the regular season, Parker was top 15 because Pop held back his minutes (and he didn't have to take over games like he has in the playoffs because the Spurs were on cruise control). But in the playoffs, he's a top-5 player.

ninephive
05-12-2014, 05:23 PM
Spurs had 4 FTA in the final 28 seconds. All they had to do was make 3 of them to secure the championship. Miami literally would have no way of coming back.
How do you know that? There was still time on the clock when Allen hit his 3. Even if it got them within 1, they could have fouled and had a chance to hit another 3.

I'm not saying the Spurs didn't choke. But Manu went 3 for 4 on FTs and Kawhi went 1 for 2. I've seen a lot of "superstars" go 0-2 from the line at the end of playoff games this year.

SilkkTheShocker
05-12-2014, 05:24 PM
LOL Tim Duncan was supposed to have retired like 2 seasons ago, just the fact they're making the Finals is amazing, Tony Parker is like a top-15 player in the league (not a super star). Lebron collapsed massively in his prime and other strong teams lead by MVP types have collapsed worse than the Spurs. Mavs come to mind with prime Dirk.

Parker and TD were both top 10 last year in the league

Fudge
05-12-2014, 05:27 PM
Individually, I think LeBrons 2011 Finals stacks up against any other all-time worst choke by a superstar. Everybody knows that.

But as a team, collectively, the Spurs take the cake. 06-07 Mavs too.

Cone
05-12-2014, 05:27 PM
2013 spurs by far. im still amazed at how hard they choked. :oldlol:

DuMa
05-12-2014, 05:27 PM
2008 Game 4 for sure. I still remember that chokejob so bad. Ray Allen had a triple pump layup that fooled kobe, lamar and pau.

ArbitraryWater
05-12-2014, 05:28 PM
-06 and 07 Dallas are both really bad also. And I defend Dirk on here a ton. Up 2-0 in the series with 4th a quarter lead in game 3.

-Spurs losing to GS in the playoffs (D-Rob Era)

-Malone and Jazz losing to Dallas in 01 playoffs. Not the biggest choke because it was a 4 vs. 5 seed. But Utah blew a 2-0 series lead. And they did everything they could to blow the game in the 4th quarter

-2000 WCF, Game 7

-Detroit in 2007 letting a player with no post game and garbage teammates score 25 consecutive points

pretty much........ threaddedy thread

Just2McFly
05-12-2014, 05:28 PM
How is 2013 Spurs a bigger choke than 2011 Heat
because they were up 5 with like 30 secs to go in the clinching game? what kind of stupid question is this?

Cone
05-12-2014, 05:29 PM
LOL Tim Duncan was supposed to have retired like 2 seasons ago, just the fact they're making the Finals is amazing, Tony Parker is like a top-15 player in the league (not a super star). Lebron collapsed massively in his prime and other strong teams lead by MVP types have collapsed worse than the Spurs. Mavs come to mind with prime Dirk.

they pulled out the yellow tape..

spurs pulled out the biggest choke of all time.. in all of sports.

no other way around it. stop with the excuses

Mr. Jabbar
05-12-2014, 06:26 PM
As a team = Spurs 2013
As an individual = Lebron 2011

None of them are arguable or even close.

smoovegittar
05-12-2014, 06:38 PM
1994 Knicks Rockets finals. ****ing John Starks and Ewing's free throws. Oakley throwing ball away.
Worst choke I can remember.:facepalm

AnaheimLakers24
05-12-2014, 06:42 PM
people saying 04 lakers are retarded. malone was injured bitches

kamil
05-12-2014, 06:44 PM
06 wasn't a choke, that was the most rigged series ever without competition.

Incorrect.

2002 WCF Lakers vs. Kings.

That was the most rigged series ever.

coin24
05-12-2014, 06:44 PM
Bran 2011

Marlo_Stanfield
05-12-2014, 06:49 PM
Kobrick in 11.
Lker fans talk trash bout bran when Kobe got SWEEPED by that same damn team as the defending champion:roll: :roll: :roll: :biggums:

coin24
05-12-2014, 06:51 PM
Kobrick in 11.
Lker fans talk trash bout bran when Kobe got SWEEPED by that same damn team as the defending champion:roll: :roll: :roll: :biggums:

Injured and had just been to 3 finals in a row. Team was depleted..

Bran single handedly cost his team the finals:lol biggest embarrassment in sports history

tpols
05-12-2014, 06:54 PM
Kobrick in 11.
Lker fans talk trash bout bran when Kobe got SWEEPED by that same damn team as the defending champion:roll: :roll: :roll: :biggums:
lakers just got their asses whooped.. they never had control in that series to choke anything away.:lol The Heat were crushing the mavs and on their way to a 2-0 lead before the ensuing mega choke.

2006 mavs is worse though.. they were up 2-0, up double digits with like 5 minutes left and lost when they coulda pretty much ended the series if they had gone 3-0.

turboranger306
05-12-2014, 07:07 PM
It's not a choke if you're the undedog

SilkkTheShocker
05-12-2014, 07:09 PM
lakers just got their asses whooped.. they never had control in that series to choke anything away.:lol The Heat were crushing the mavs and on their way to a 2-0 lead before the ensuing mega choke.

2006 mavs is worse though.. they were up 2-0, up double digits with like 5 minutes left and lost when they coulda pretty much ended the series if they had gone 3-0.

tpols is only posts here to soften any Kobe/Laker loss. :oldlol:

Marlo_Stanfield
05-12-2014, 07:10 PM
tpols is only posts here to soften any Kobe/Laker loss. :oldlol:
http://cdn.niketalk.com/2/2f/350x700px-LL-2ff5111e_michael-jordan-laughing.gif

RoseCity07
05-12-2014, 07:11 PM
Lakers blew a 20 points lead at home in the NBA finals. I'll never forget that. I remember Ray Allen made that scrub cry.:oldlol:

VIP2000
05-12-2014, 07:16 PM
John Starks shot 2 for 18 in a Game 7 of the Finals.

tpols
05-12-2014, 07:18 PM
tpols is only posts here to soften any Kobe/Laker loss. :oldlol:

its true:oldlol: its an insult to everyone's intelligence on this board to say anything other than the heat choked the hardest in 2011.

97 bulls
05-12-2014, 07:20 PM
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDMQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DYQ1 bd2g3p1Y&ei=31VxU_SxINOyyATbxICYCA&usg=AFQjCNG7gzfsnbG_gQZAcrykVSR3uuNVRw&sig2=F8f4qSTbrJNnzeq1q-_dP

wow you guys must be young. If any player did this hed be considered the biggest choker

DMAVS41
05-12-2014, 07:21 PM
clearly the 11 Heat.

06 Mavs was bad, but they weren't overwhelming favorites going in...nor did the 11 Heat have to battle against the worst superstar rules/refs in modern NBA history.

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
05-12-2014, 07:24 PM
11 Heat
09 and 10 Cavs

SilkkTheShocker
05-12-2014, 07:27 PM
clearly the 11 Heat.

06 Mavs was bad, but they weren't overwhelming favorites going in...nor did the 11 Heat have to battle against the worst superstar rules/refs in modern NBA history.

It was still really, really bad.

jstern
05-12-2014, 07:30 PM
I wouldn't consider the 2013 Spurs to be a choke job. The Heat just got a lucky bounce and hit a big shot.

Plus it all happened in a span of 28 seconds, which it just mean that the Heat made a run. If it had been during the course of 5 minutes, where they were missing free throws, making stupid mistakes and missing easy shots badly, then that's a choke job.

This is an example of a choke job https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSe80qSgXVA

RoundMoundOfReb
05-12-2014, 07:32 PM
People saying the '11 Heat makes no sense. Go look at the betting odds for the series before it started. Heat were favored but not significantly like say the '04 Lakers who iirc were 5 to 1 favorites over the Pistons.

97 bulls
05-12-2014, 07:36 PM
I wouldn't consider the 2013 Spurs to be a choke job. The Heat just got a lucky bounce and hit a big shot.

Plus it all happened in a span of 28 seconds, which it just mean that the Heat made a run. If it had been during the course of 5 minutes, where they were missing free throws, making stupid mistakes and missing easy shots badly, then that's a choke job.

This is an example of a choke job https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSe80qSgXVA
To be fair, he was a 19 year old kid. The only person that choked was Del Harris for putting him in that position.

DMAVS41
05-12-2014, 07:36 PM
People saying the '11 Heat makes no sense. Go look at the betting odds for the series before it started. Heat were favored but not significantly like say the '04 Lakers who iirc were 5 to 1 favorites over the Pistons.

Well, but the Heat and Mavs got up in their series....the Lakers just got their shit kicked from play 1.

So it's hard to choke if you never get up.

LeBron 06
05-12-2014, 07:38 PM
People saying the '11 Heat makes no sense. Go look at the betting odds for the series before it started. Heat were favored but not significantly like say the '04 Lakers who iirc were 5 to 1 favorites over the Pistons.


The 2006 mavs were more favorite in the final that the heat were in 2011....The mavs had only one less win than the heat in 2011...Also, many forget that the heat was underdog against the celtics in 2nd round in the same year


It was a choke, especially in game 2, but not the worst choke of all time...Dallas in 2006 and 2007 were worse

JohnMax
05-12-2014, 07:39 PM
biggest choke job in College basketball history goes to Derrick Rose


http://i.imgur.com/HWWRfvj.jpg

SilkkTheShocker
05-12-2014, 07:41 PM
04 Finals was one of the biggest chokes in NBA history. Anyone arguing otherwise is a drooling r.etard

DMAVS41
05-12-2014, 07:42 PM
The 2006 mavs were more favorite in the final that the heat were in 2011....The mavs had only one less win than the heat in 2011...Also, many forget that the heat was underdog against the celtics in 2nd round in the same year


It was a choke, especially in game 2, but not the worst choke of all time...Dallas in 2006 and 2007 were worse

definitely not 07. The mavs lost game 1 and never led in the series. in fact, the Mavs got blown out in 3 of the 4 losses...that series is the opposite of a chokejob. A shit kicking for sure, but you have to be up in order to choke.

The 06 Mavs is a good example...as are the 11 Heat.

And when you factor in the Lebron choke in 11...that is what puts it over the top for me. Not only did the Heat blow a huge 4th qtr lead in game 2, but the supposed best player in the world choked in every 4th qtr.

and again, the 11 Heat weren't playing the refs as well with crappy rules. at least the 06 mavs had to fight a team with shaq/wade coached by Riley...while also having to combat the biggest joke rules for perimeter superstar players in league history. please go back and watch the games and then come back here and tell me how a team is supposed to stop a guy like Wade or Kobe with the rules the way they were back then. It really was basically impossible...

SilkkTheShocker
05-12-2014, 07:43 PM
Dallas' chokes in 06 and 07 were gigantic.

red1
05-12-2014, 07:45 PM
Heat did choke in 2011. If they closed out game 2 they would've been sitting on a three-peat right now. They get a bit of a pass because their chemistry was still shit since it was their first year together but there is no denying that it was a choke.

DMAVS41
05-12-2014, 07:46 PM
Dallas' chokes in 06 and 07 were gigantic.

We obviously have different definitions of the word. I don't see how a team can choke if they are never up in the series nor are they losing close games or something.

The 06 Mavs choked. The 07 Mavs just got their shit kicked.

I think there has to be a difference.

And if there isn't....then I guess it's the 04 Lakers because they were huge favorites...

LeBron 06
05-12-2014, 07:47 PM
definitely not 07. The mavs lost game 1 and never led in the series. in fact, the Mavs got blown out in 3 of the 4 losses...that series is the opposite of a chokejob. A shit kicking for sure, but you have to be up in order to choke.

The 06 Mavs is a good example...as are the 11 Heat.

And when you factor in the Lebron choke in 11...that is what puts it over the top for me. Not only did the Heat blow a huge 4th qtr lead in game 2, but the supposed best player in the world choked in every 4th qtr.

In 2007, Dallas had 67 wins,the warriors only 42 wins


If the heat would have lost against a very average team in the first or 2nd round, even if they would never have led the series, it would be considered as a big choke

DMAVS41
05-12-2014, 07:50 PM
In 2007, Dallas had 67 wins,the warriors only 42 wins


If the heat would have lost against a very average team in the first or 2nd round, even if they would never have led the series, it would be considered as a big choke

It depends on how you define the word. I still don't see how you can choke if you never lead. I don't think that fits with the actual definition of the word...but it doesn't matter honestly. Because all you are then doing is holding the Mavs grossly over-achieving in the regular season against them...while allowing the 11 Heat to underachieve and actually have it be a benefit. Here's the thing...the 11 Heat were way better than the 07 Mavs. Just because the 07 Mavs won a ton of regular season games...it means nothing. On your logic...the exact same Mavs team only winning 55 games...makes them better because then it wouldn't be considered as big of an upset. Absurd logic....which I hope you can see.

The biggest choke I've ever seen out of a team/player was the 11 Heat and Lebron.

And it will forever be remembered as such...

tpols
05-12-2014, 07:51 PM
people dont even know what the word choke means:roll:

SilkkTheShocker
05-12-2014, 07:53 PM
We obviously have different definitions of the word. I don't see how a team can choke if they are never up in the series nor are they losing close games or something.

The 06 Mavs choked. The 07 Mavs just got their shit kicked.

I think there has to be a difference.

And if there isn't....then I guess it's the 04 Lakers because they were huge favorites...

All three were huge chokes. No one had Detroit winning 04. And Dirk was (unfairly) called a choker from 2006-2011. His 2011 postseason run did wonders for repairing his reputation. Not even a Dirk hater either, you know that. But 06 and 07 were bad.

DMAVS41
05-12-2014, 08:00 PM
All three were huge chokes. No one had Detroit winning 04. And Dirk was (unfairly) called a choker from 2006-2011. His 2011 postseason run did wonders for repairing his reputation. Not even a Dirk hater either, you know that. But 06 and 07 were bad.

Bad losses are different from chokes though. My issue is with the word "choke"...

I just don't see how a team can "choke" without being up...it just doesn't make sense to me really.

Meh....07 was really bad, but 06? Mavs weren't even expected go get out of the 2nd round. Made the finals and held homecourt and then had a superstar explode on them with virtually no way to stop him without sending him to the line 25 plus times a game.

As much as I hate Avery and the Mavs for losing that series at the time...I really don't know what you are supposed to do with those rules. And people seriously under-rate the 06 Heat. Them and the Spurs were the two favorites to start the year and it was only because of the Shaq injury did the fall back.

They were pretty dominant when he was in the lineup....42-17 with...10-13 without.

Y2ktors
05-12-2014, 08:37 PM
13 Spurs. Blew a huge lead, then took a 5 pt lead with :28 to go, kept missing fts, couldn't grab a single rebound, blew the 5pt lead, failed to get a decent shot off before time expired and then lost in OT and game 7.