lol @ people thinking one blown call is rigging

[triangleoffense]

People have historical retardation these days, a rig is the entire game being called in favor of another team, such as one team getting 40 FTs to another team's 20. One blown call does not = rig

Dat Clippers Rage tho

[HoopsFanNumero1]

One blown call? :roll:

The game was rigged right from the start.

[triangleoffense]

One blown call? :roll:

The game was rigged right from the start.
pics/vids plz or gtfo

[jimmy77x]

People have historical retardation these days, a rig is the entire game being called in favor of another team, such as one team getting 40 FTs to another team's 20. One blown call does not = rig

Dat Clippers Rage tho

Its mostly lebeta faboys bitching about the officials, upset because they want to see lehgh arch rival fail.bran stans so emotionally invested in their hero:lol pathetic losers.

[Clyde]

There is no rigging.

There may be human error at times.

To think the game is rigged is ridiculous.

[triangleoffense]

There is no rigging.

There may be human error at times.

To think the game is rigged is ridiculous.
So many threads about it though :facepalm .. don't even remember this much in 2010 when the officials blatantly rigged LA/BOSTON series to go 7 right before the lockout. I watched every second of that series twice (cherished every moment) and there was some sketttcchh shit going on.

[~primetime~]

Fellas, it is a proven fact that NBA games have been rigged in the past...in the RECENT past too, so I am not sure why you would assume it is inconceivable

The game REEEEEKED of rigging...at a time when the owner is viewed as Hitler

stop "loling" and start questioning...you don't have to just accept everything thrown at you

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Thunder have now won their last 12 games officiated by Tony Brothers. You really think it was just a coincidence that they were officiating this crucial game?

[VengefulAngel]

Should have left it at:

LOL at people thinking on ISH, you would have been spot on then :D

[triangleoffense]

Fellas, it is a proven fact that NBA games have been rigged in the past...in the RECENT past too, so I am not sure why you would assume it is inconceivable

The game REEEEEKED of rigging...at a time when the owner is viewed as Hitler

stop "loling" and start questioning...you don't have to just accept everything thrown at you
No one is disputing it, i'm was just saying I've seen blatant rigging and last night was not that... the calls could all be disputed and other than that controversial call against the Clips late i don't see like 3-4 calls that were just blatantly called in favor of the Thunder.

Anyone have the FT tally for both teams?

but... but the internet is for lulz tho

[Jlamb47]

Its mostly lebeta faboys bitching about the officials, upset because they want to see lehgh arch rival fail.bran stans so emotionally invested in their hero:lol pathetic losers.

This
its only Lebron fans that are bashing KD every single game. no matter what is going on there is something said about KD after every game.

[Sarcastic]

People have historical retardation these days, a rig is the entire game being called in favor of another team, such as one team getting 40 FTs to another team's 20. One blown call does not = rig

Dat Clippers Rage tho


Kinda like the ECSF Knicks/Pacers series last year.


Game 6: Pacers 46 free throws/Knicks 18 free throws
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201305180IND.html


For the entire series, the Pacers took 176 free throws to the Knicks 107, putting them at +69 over 6 games; taking 11.5 more free throws per game.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Nah, it wasn't 1 blown call. Anyone who thinks that doesn't have eyes. Clearly rigged, but it's OKC so I'm not surprised there.

[~primetime~]

No one is disputing it, i'm was just saying I've seen blatant rigging and last night was not that... the calls could all be disputed and other than that controversial call against the Clips late i don't see like 3-4 calls that were just blatantly called in favor of the Thunder.

Anyone have the FT tally for both teams?

but... but the internet is for lulz tho
the refs blew a call UNDER REVIEW...slow mo replay in their face

but it was more than that "one play"...Westbrook wasn't really fouled on the 3...CP WAS fouled on that steal...EVERYTHING that could have gone "either way"? went to the Thunder

[triangleoffense]

Kinda like the ECSF Knicks/Pacers series last year.


Game 6: Pacers 46 free throws/Knicks 18 free throws
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201305180IND.html


For the entire series, the Pacers took 176 free throws to the Knicks 107, putting them at +69 over 6 games; taking 11.5 more free throws per game.
Wow I'm surprised that happened, don't see why the commissioner would hate the Knicks they probably get huge ratings.

[Sarcastic]

No one is disputing it, i'm was just saying I've seen blatant rigging and last night was not that... the calls could all be disputed and other than that controversial call against the Clips late i don't see like 3-4 calls that were just blatantly called in favor of the Thunder.

Anyone have the FT tally for both teams?

but... but the internet is for lulz tho


So far it's
OKC: 143
LAC: 127

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2014_WCS.html#OKC-LAC

[Meticode]

the refs blew a call UNDER REVIEW...slow mo replay in their face

but it was more than that "one play"...Westbrook wasn't really fouled on the 3...CP WAS fouled on that steal...EVERYTHING that could have gone "either way"? went to the Thunder
I watched the replay on Westbrook a number of times. Paul actually did touch Westbrooks elbow/forearm area on the shot. So it was the correct call. But the review play of the ball going out on Jackson was completely missed not called on purpose. Then Paul getting grabbed on the arm by Jackson at the end was more a foul than the Westbrook shooting foul early.

[~primetime~]

I watched the replay on Westbrook a number of times. Paul actually did touch Westbrooks elbow/forearm area on the shot. So it was the correct call. But the review play of the ball going out on Jackson was completely missed not called on purpose. Then Paul getting grabbed on the arm by Jackson at the end was more a foul than the Westbrook shooting foul early.
it could have gone "either way" imo...and like I said EVERYTHING in that game that could have gone "either way" went to the Thunder...because they were favored by the refs imo

[triangleoffense]

the refs blew a call UNDER REVIEW...slow mo replay in their face

but it was more than that "one play"...Westbrook wasn't really fouled on the 3...CP WAS fouled on that steal...EVERYTHING that could have gone "either way"? went to the Thunder
Yes, that ONE play was weird.. my OP specifically said though that I don't consider one play an obvious rig.. i've seen them first hand with my own team in 2001 vs Kings and 2010 vs Boston but there's so many threads about it and people acting like it's a travesty.. it's most likely due to Doc melodrama Rivers' post-game but even CP3 himself said they essentially blew the game as did Barkley who is obviously the most frank and sincere of the entire TNT crew.

I thought chuck was right on when he said sarcastically to Kenny "I mean this is PROFESSIONAL basketball, kenny" and then kenny replied that it was like him seeing his son's high school games since there were as Doc himself said it "a comedy of errors" on the clips part.

[Sarcastic]

Clippers have no one to blame for that loss but themselves, and more specifically Chris Flop 3.

[~primetime~]

Yes, that ONE play was weird.. my OP specifically said though that I don't consider one play an obvious rig.. i've seen them first hand with my own team in 2001 vs Kings and 2010 vs Boston but there's so many threads about it and people acting like it's a travesty.. it's most likely due to Doc melodrama Rivers' post-game but even CP3 himself said they essentially blew the game as did Barkley who is obviously the most frank and sincere of the entire TNT crew.

I thought chuck was right on when he said sarcastically to Kenny "I mean this is PROFESSIONAL basketball, kenny" and then kenny replied that it was like him seeing his son's high school games since there were as Doc himself said it "a comedy of errors" on the clips part.
oh okay, CP3 says he fcked up = refs innocent?...never mind everyone else?

it was more than that one play, it was questionable call, after questionable call, after questionable call...RIGHT AFTER "what has Magic done?...he has AIDS"

[j3lademaster]

the refs blew a call UNDER REVIEW...slow mo replay in their face

but it was more than that "one play"...Westbrook wasn't really fouled on the 3...CP WAS fouled on that steal...EVERYTHING that could have gone "either way"? went to the Thunderreggie jackson call was bad, but how can you so definitely dismiss the westbrook 3? There was no angle to disprove wb wasn't hit on the elbow and the ref was right next to that play.

And honestly that flagrant 1 on wb in the 1st quarter? That's a bs flagrant for the regular season. Blake's verticality against westbrook end of the first half? What about cp3's first basket: that floater where nick collison actually moves out of the way with his hands up? The first 3 fouls on ibaka were way worse than what got deandre into foul trouble. The blown call on jackson was the most important botched call and leaves a lasting impression, especially on most fans who are knee-jerk overreactors. There are a lot of heat fans on this board and they're the loudest so the sheep follow suit i guess.

[triangleoffense]

oh okay, CP3 says he fcked up = refs innocent?...never mind everyone else?

it was more than that one play, it was questionable call, after questionable call, after questionable call...RIGHT AFTER "what has Magic done?...he has AIDS"
Now your just being paranoid. The hammer has already been thrown Sterling is already out a 3/4 vote of the league is guaranteed now it's just a question of unanimous decision or not. Plus if anything the league would want the Clips to win to set a good example.

[~primetime~]

Now your just being paranoid. The hammer has already been thrown Sterling is already out a 3/4 vote of the league is guaranteed now it's just a question of unanimous decision or not. Plus if anything the league would want the Clips to win to set a good example.
IMO if the Clipps won a ring it would be a PR nightmare for the NBA...Sterling isn't going be out anytime soon, he would be the owner of a Larry O'Brien trophy

fans SHOULD be paranoid of this...it's happened too much in the past not to be

[Clyde]

Fellas, it is a proven fact that NBA games have been rigged in the past...in the RECENT past too, so I am not sure why you would assume it is inconceivable

The game REEEEEKED of rigging...at a time when the owner is viewed as Hitler

stop "loling" and start questioning...you don't have to just accept everything thrown at you

your opinion is not fact

[Peteballa]

your opinion is not fact

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3436401

[Clyde]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3436401

what does this prove?

Do you wear tinfoil hats?

[~primetime~]

your opinion is not fact
but it is a fact to anyone who has been paying attention to the NBA over the last 10 years

[Peteballa]

what does this prove?

Do you wear tinfoil hats?

Donaghy testifies that the other officials working Game 6 were "company men" and wanted the series to go to 7. The game itself was clearly rigged; anyone watching could tell. Human error is acceptable to an extent, but at a certain point you have to acknowledge an excess of "mistakes". It doesn't prove anything; it merely is supposed to stimulate an open mind, make you consider the possibility that it is rigged. Not having a closed mind doesn't mean someone wears tinfoil hats.

[~primetime~]

[QUOTE]

[Teanett]

but it is a fact to anyone who has been paying attention to the NBA over the last 10 years

or since the patrick ewing draft...

[Clyde]

:facepalm

the clippers had multiple chances of still winning that game after the out of bounds call.

Was the Chris Paul Foul rigged? or his poor decision making at the end rigged as well?

Was the 13 (or whatever) point comeback rigged?

you people are absurd, and need to learn to place blame correctly.

[~primetime~]

Clyde, do you think in the recent history of the league, say last 20-30 years, that refs have never given one team an "edge" on purpose?

[Soundwave]

Matt Barnes should've been called for a foul there, the fact that the refs decided to make it an out of bounds play was actually advantage LA, no one forced Chris Paul to foul a 3 point shooter (and he did hit him on the elbow) on the ensuing play (stupid decision).

Crying over an out of bounds call that really should've been a foul on you in the first place is weak IMO.

[Teanett]

after the 6th foul on deandre jordan i thought: "they want a game 7".

watch it, okc will not get these close calls in the next game.

[NumberSix]

Ok, so am I to understand that....


If a player has a late turnover, that warrants a string of bad calls against his team?

[Clyde]

Clyde, do you think in the recent history of the league, say last 20-30 years, that refs have never given one team an "edge" on purpose?

PEOPLE ARE SAYING THE GAMES ARE RIGGED.

Which means people believe the outcome of the game is already determined before the tip off.

Do certain players get the benefit of calls from time to time? Absolutely.

But I do not think the league office sits down with it's officials and tells them to make sure Team A beats Team B

[Clyde]

Matt Barnes should've been called for a foul there, the fact that the refs decided to make it an out of bounds play was actually advantage LA, no one forced Chris Paul to foul a 3 point shooter (and he did hit him on the elbow) on the ensuing play (stupid decision).

Crying over an out of bounds call that really should've been a foul on you in the first place is weak IMO.

:applause:

Had they not called a foul and gave the ball to LA, people would be saying the game is rigged, but for LA's benefit.

thats why i find this so infuriating and stupid.

[KG215]

PEOPLE ARE SAYING THE GAMES ARE RIGGED.

Which means people believe the outcome of the game is already determined before the tip off.

Do certain players get the benefit of calls from time to time? Absolutely.

But I do not think the league office sits down with it's officials and tells them to make sure Team A beats Team B
If that was the case, the officials would've done a hole hell of a lot more to make sure the Clippers didn't build a 13 point lead with 3.5 minutes to go in the game.

I can understand people bitching about and being upset with the out of bounds play. Although there is some reason to believe it wasn't some atrociously, "you've got to be f***ing kidding me" terrible call. It was highly questionable, I get that, but like the thread title says, one blown/questionable call doesn't mean an entire game was rigged.

As has been the case throughout basically the entire series, last night's game saw both teams receive some favorable calls. Jamal Crawford's four point play (and a number of his other shooting fouls) have been questionable at best. The refs last night weren't very consistent with the rule of verticality. And to anyone bitching about Reggie Jackson fouling CP3 on the final play of the game might want to look at the bear hug, push him all the way down the lane moving screen Blake set to spring Paul free.

[ZenMaster]

after the 6th foul on deandre jordan i thought: "they want a game 7".

watch it, okc will not get these close calls in the next game.

Thinking about betting real hard on the Clippers, it's got to be 7 in Oklahoma.

[~primetime~]

PEOPLE ARE SAYING THE GAMES ARE RIGGED.

Which means people believe the outcome of the game is already determined before the tip off.

Do certain players get the benefit of calls from time to time? Absolutely.

But I do not think the league office sits down with it's officials and tells them to make sure Team A beats Team B
so you don't think it is possible that they sit down with them and say "let's give Team A an edge over Team B, if the call could go either way give it to Team A" ???

that is what Donaghy claims goes on...

[~primetime~]

[QUOTE]

[DCL]

it's not really just "one" single blown call that gets to people.

there seems to be a strong pattern of questionable bullshit.

[Clyde]

Im going to believe a referee who was betting on the outcomes of games?

Tim Donaghy (/ˈdɒnəɡi/;[2] born January 7, 1967)[3] is a former professional basketball referee who worked in the National Basketball Association (NBA) for 13 seasons, from 1994 to 2007.[4] During his career in the NBA, Donaghy officiated in 772 regular season games and 20 playoff games.[4] Donaghy resigned from the league on July 9, 2007[5] before reports of an investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) for allegations that he bet on games that he officiated during his last two seasons and that he made calls affecting the point spread in those games.[6] On August 15, 2007, Donaghy pleaded guilty to two federal charges related to the investigation. However, he could face more charges at the state level if it is determined that he deliberately miscalled individual games. Donaghy was sentenced to 15 months in federal prison on July 29, 2008.[7] He served 11 months in a federal prison camp in Pensacola, Florida to spend the remainder of his sentence in a halfway house,[8][9] but was sent back to prison in August for violating his release terms. He was released on November 4, 2009 after serving out his sentence.

maybe he was rigging games, but the league certainly wansn't

[~primetime~]

maybe he was rigging games, but the league certainly wansn't
lol how the fck do you know that?

you don't have to believe his words, but to completely write them off as lies is very foolish

and aside from his words there is plenty of evidence that points to games being rigged in the past, entire playoff series even

[Clyde]

AGAIN ^^^ that is an actual quote from Donaghy

[~primetime~]

[QUOTE=Clyde]

[Clyde]

http://www.sportsgrid.com/nba/tim-donaghy-is-saying-the-nba-is-rigged-probably-to-get-you-to-buy-his-bullshit-picks/

read the entire article then

I dont have to read it. I know all about it.

If you want to side with a felon and admitted cheater be my guest.

Arguments from him aren't going to sway my opinion.

we're at an agree to disagree point in the conversation, and I'm going to move along now.

[~primetime~]

I dont have to read it. I know all about it.

If you want to side with a felon and admitted cheater be my guest.

Arguments from him aren't going to sway my opinion.

we're at an agree to disagree point in the conversation, and I'm going to move along now.
obviously nothing will, you've made up your mind that the NBA would never do such a thing :rolleyes:

oh well, ignorance is bliss I guess

[NumberSix]

obviously nothing will, you've made up your mind that the NBA would never do such a thing :rolleyes:

oh well, ignorance is bliss I guess
Nobody bitches about OKC officiating more than me, but even I don't think the NBA tells refs to make OKC win. They don't "rig". It's just that for whatever reason, the refs just officiate OKC different than any other team. The give them the softest calls and for whatever reason, they always want to give them the benefit on every call they can. Even when the calls they make don't make any sense.

[cltcfn2924]

The perception is that it's rigged. I thought Silver was making strides to change that this year until round 2 of the playoffs. Now it's back to business as usual, and the ball bounces where the money has to roll. You can call me crazy, but it's rigged, from the lottery all the way to the finals.

[triangleoffense]

IMO if the Clipps won a ring it would be a PR nightmare for the NBA...Sterling isn't going be out anytime soon, he would be the owner of a Larry O'Brien trophy

fans SHOULD be paranoid of this...it's happened too much in the past not to be
Yea but that's assuming people think of the Clips as "sterlings team".. i sure as hell don't i'm sure the vast majority of fans think of CP3 and Doc when they think of the Clippers, the players have 0 to little control over whichever asshole owner *outside of Jerry Buss is currently controlling partner in the team. It's a terrible way for a game to be decided I'll give you that.. but massive conspiracy involving the CLIPS of all teams? I doubt it... even before the scandal Sterling was considered a deadbeat shave a penny owner who was obviously racist, not much has changed outside of his racism now having been proven definitively.

Either way i see the whole sterling thing as Silver-Snake trying to make a name for himself. Sterling should have obviously beeen forced out but Silver is front of this like a parasite.

BTW Donaghy was telling the true no question, I've been watching the league since the mid 90s, he's got no reason to lie his entire life has been discredited because of it and forever labeled a snitch PUBLICLY. Nobody on earth wants to labeled such a name especially one with known connections to the underground.

Lost a lot of respect for the league that day and i've been vigilant every since to look for that kind of BS but I can safely say that there's been nothing as blatant as the kings-LA series except maybe in '10 when the series was forced to 7, right before a lockout no less.