Post-Season PER ( Lebron and the rest)

[VengefulAngel]

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We have to start acknowledging that LBJ is so much superior than any other player in the NBA atm. Imagine if D wade played better than Lebron in 2 series, what people would say. RW has been far superior to KD in these series.

[VengefulAngel]

RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
1 LeBron James, MIA 8 39.5 .678 16.0 7.3 27.6 0.4 21.0 11.2 33.51 108.5 3.6
2 DeJuan Blair, DAL 6 13.5 .611 2.6 12.9 18.7 18.7 36.0 26.6 28.81 22.0 0.7
3 Dwight Howard, HOU 6 38.5 .581 6.7 11.6 26.5 12.5 26.9 19.5 27.29 57.6 1.9
4 Taj Gibson, CHI 5 30.8 .625 2.4 9.7 22.5 15.3 7.8 11.6 26.53 34.5 1.2
5 Russell Westbrook, OKC 12 39.6 .542 21.4 11.9 32.4 8.9 14.7 12.0 25.34 101.7 3.4
6 Chris Paul, LAC 12 36.0 .580 34.4 10.0 24.3 2.6 10.4 6.4 23.48 80.5 2.7
7 Marreese Speights, GS 7 9.7 .533 6.5 4.3 24.5 14.9 22.3 18.5 23.43 12.1 0.4
8 Will Barton, POR 6 10.3 .729 6.1 12.2 19.5 8.9 8.7 8.8 22.83 11.4 0.4
9 Kevin Durant, OKC 12 44.6 .562 12.0 11.0 29.1 3.6 18.2 11.4 22.76 97.9 3.3
10 Chris Andersen, MIA 8 16.9 .679 4.8 7.2 12.6 10.0 27.3 19.0 22.43 22.0 0.7

Taken a screenie now.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Durant with a 22 PER. So fvcking overrated.

[VengefulAngel]

Durant with a 22 PER. So fvcking overrated.

The highest drop-off in the last 10 years from an MVP.

[Warfan]

I guess it should be noted its only good to compare 2 players with similar minutes, otherwise speights gonna get paid.

[VengefulAngel]

I guess it should be noted its only good to compare 2 players with similar minutes, otherwise speights gonna get paid.

I don't want to seem like i'm interfering with the data, so I left it as it is.

[russwest0]

durant facing the toughest teams in the playoffs, lebron facing the easiest

durant :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[J Shuttlesworth]

durant facing the toughest teams in the playoffs, lebron facing the easiest

durant :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Ducan't isn't even the best player on his team :roll: And they call this guy MVP

[VengefulAngel]

durant facing the toughest teams in the playoffs, lebron facing the easiest

durant :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Westbrook has 3 higher PER, more wins added and higher total value.

[Solefade]

durant facing the toughest teams in the playoffs, lebron facing the easiest

durant :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:


so how do you explain dwight howard, will barton, westbrook, MO SPEIGHTS all having better PERs than KD? :oldlol:

[Young X]

:facepalm @ KD.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Westbrook has 3 higher PER, more wins added and higher total value.
Westbrook is fit to handle the tough competition. Durant.... not so much

[R.I.P.]

Bron losses 10 PER points for playing in the East. :lol

DeJuan Blair is the true GOAT. :bowdown: :bowdown:

[imdaman99]

Who the hell cares about a shitty stat that has Blair, Gibson, Speights, Barton, and Birdman to make up half of a top 10 list? :hammerhead:

[VengefulAngel]

The last time anyone had this sort of gap in PER was 2008-2009.


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Lebron's best postseason in which he was still criticised...

[VengefulAngel]

Who the hell cares about a shitty stat that has Blair, Gibson, Speights, Barton, and Birdman to make up half of a top 10 list? :hammerhead:

Look at it in conjunction with wins added and value added, otherwise you just get the most efficient players....

[sd3035]

Who the hell cares about a shitty stat that has Blair, Gibson, Speights, Barton, and Birdman to make up half of a top 10 list? :hammerhead:

:roll: :roll:

[VengefulAngel]

:roll: :roll:

You add nothing productive to the conversation can you not post here again.

[riseagainst]

Who the hell cares about a shitty stat that has Blair, Gibson, Speights, Barton, and Birdman to make up half of a top 10 list? :hammerhead:

:lol
:roll:

[LeBron 06]

LeBron deserved a ring in 2009

[VengefulAngel]

:lol
:roll:

Wasn't this the stat that Durant stans used to validate Durant's regular season MVP?

Only useful when it suits your agenda.

[Genaro]

Who the hell cares about a shitty stat that has Blair, Gibson, Speights, Barton, and Birdman to make up half of a top 10 list? :hammerhead:
This

[VengefulAngel]

This

Ill keep copying my post since Durant stans keep on dodging it.

Wasn't this the stat that Durant stans used to validate Durant's regular season MVP?

Only useful when it suits your agenda. The least objective fan's ever...

[Lebronxrings]

durant nearly 45 minutes per game. WTf:biggums:

[VengefulAngel]

durant nearly 45 minutes per game. WTf:biggums:

Lot's of OT games, he only gets 4 minutes off in the second quarter. Scott Brooks :facepalm

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Ill keep copying my post since Durant stans keep on dodging it.

Wasn't this the stat that Durant stans used to validate Durant's regular season MVP?

Only useful when it suits your agenda. The least objective fan's ever...

Too many morons on this site. PER is useful as a comparison tool for players that play roughly the same minutes per game.

[VengefulAngel]

Too many morons on this site. PER is useful as a comparison tool for players that play roughly the same minutes per game.

Ty, plus the only reason Westbrook and Durant's wins added are close to Lebron is due to the fact that they have played more games.

[Kingwillball]

Well the people who know basketball said during regular season the cream would rise to top and separate himself come postseason. Anybody who had any questions or doubted who the best player was should not anymore. Lebron is clearly the class of the league still.

[Warfan]

Look at it in conjunction with wins added and value added, otherwise you just get the most efficient players....

This is basically why I said its best to look at players with similar minutes, because retards like him will say that its a really dumb stat.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Who the hell cares about a shitty stat that has Blair, Gibson, Speights, Barton, and Birdman to make up half of a top 10 list? :hammerhead:

That's like saying FG% is "terrible" because Tyson Chandler leads everybody. You gotta take into account shot attempts, just like you gotta factor in minutes with PER.

[VengefulAngel]

That's like saying FG% is "terrible" because Tyson Chandler leads everybody. You gotta take into account shot attempts, just like you gotta factor in minutes with PER.

Don't worry they'll now dodge this thread after their dreadful trolling attempts.

[rlsmooth775]

Who the hell cares about a shitty stat that has Blair, Gibson, Speights, Barton, and Birdman to make up half of a top 10 list? :hammerhead:

You can only compare PER between players who play the same minutes shoot the same volume

[VengefulAngel]

Do you guys think he'll be able to keep shooting 57 percent?, pretty impossible imho.

[Trollsmasher]

idiots not knowing how to use PER:lol

[VengefulAngel]

idiots not knowing how to use PER:lol

Typical KD stans.

[Doranku]

Do people actually care about the numbers Bron is putting up against .500 teams? :oldlol:

[Trollsmasher]

Typical KD stans.
They are the same people that discount RAPM simply because players like Birdman are very efficient in their minutes and have a high number beside their name:lol

[VengefulAngel]

Do people actually care about the numbers Bron is putting up against .500 teams? :oldlol:

haha a nets fan dissing his own team.

[Doranku]

haha a nets fan dissing his own team.
I'm not a Nets fan, just rooting for them in the playoffs.

[VengefulAngel]

I'm not a Nets fan, just rooting for them in the playoffs.

What team do you normally support?

[dannywpt]

I remember someone suggested to call a certain popular ISH club the "LeBron and the rest"-club. That backfired pretty frikkin hard. :D

[Keno]

durant is beyond overrated. one of the worst post season runs by a mvp in a long time. lucky he's got so many team mates bailing him out every other game + refs/adam silver.

[VengefulAngel]

I remember someone suggested to call a certain popular ISH club the "LeBron and the rest"-club. That backfired pretty frikkin hard. :D

I'm only providing statistical evidence proving that's the case.

[OldSchoolBBall]

Do people actually care about the numbers Bron is putting up against .500 teams? :oldlol:

People cared about Kobe's binge of 40-50+ point games in 2006/2007 which by and large came against teams that averaged 38-40 wins, so... :confusedshrug:

[Young X]

People cared about Kobe's binge of 40-50+ point games in 2006/2007 which by and large came against teams that averaged 38-40 wins, so... :confusedshrug::oldlol:

[Anaximandro1]

Who the hell cares about a shitty stat that has Blair, Gibson, Speights, Barton, and Birdman to make up half of a top 10 list? :hammerhead:

PER needs context (Minutes Played Per Game)

PER, WS/48, ORtg, USG%, DRtg, etc. need to be used in conjunction ... work pretty well.


For the sake of simplicity

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