Kawhi Leonard's Ceiling?

[GabeIsGone]

Elite Defense
Elite Rebounding
Good to Great Offensively

And constantly improving.

Just-Below Allstar Status?
Allstar?
All-Pro?
DPOY?
HOF?
GOAT?

[Paul George 24]

next pippen :rockon:

[BuffaloBill]

rich man's michael jordan

[Duggrr]

Maybe like a better than prime-Igoudala? All Star for sure

[CeilingFan#1]

Thread title misleading. No photos of his ceiling. 1 starred.

[aboss4real24]

Nuthn more than a system player

[Paul George 24]

He will never have Pippen's playmaking, ever. He's a better rebounder than Scottie too. Might be as efficient from the field though.

hopes he can develope :rockon:

[sd3035]

Nuthn more than a system player

He's already better than Marsmelo

[aboss4real24]

He's already better than Marsmelo


wheres his coring title

[Paul George 24]

wheres his coring title

can melo plays d :oldlol:

[aboss4real24]

can melo plays d :oldlol:

The game is about puttn the ball in the hoop :lol

[SCdac]

19-21 ppg / 8-9 rpg / 2-3 spg / couple of three's on good %'s / 36-39 mpg

Do it all player with skill ala Shawn Marion. All-NBA defense. Tayshaun Prince-level defensive impact for a contender but more of an offensive contributor. Possibly the best rebounding SF in the league that isn't a SF/PF tweener? With enough minutes could be top-3 in steals ala Marion, Thaddeus, Iguodala, etc. Didn't predict him to be a future All-Star a year or two ago, but at the time I forgot how easy it is to make the AS game (cough Roy Hibbert) and Kawhi continues to improve. Much untapped potential. He's got solid moves both off the ball and to get himself open.

[T_L_P]

Statistically, I think he'll be a 18-20 PPG player, with 8 or 9 rebounds and 2 or 3 assists.

He'll be like Timmy: stats can't really capture the impact.

[aboss4real24]

Statistically, I think he'll be a 18-20 PPG player, with 8 or 9 rebounds and 2 or 3 assists.

He'll be like Timmy: stats can't really capture the impact.

Yea keep dreaming

[T_L_P]

Yea keep dreaming

My dream when Timmy was drafted: rings.
Outcome: four.

Your dream when Carmelo came: Finals trips
Outcome: 9th seed.

My dreams come true. :cheers:

[TheMilkyBarKid]

In form paul george with better d.

[aboss4real24]

My dream when Timmy was drafted: rings.
Outcome: four.

Your dream when Carmelo came: Finals trips
Outcome: 9th seed.

My dreams come true. :cheers:


http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--nUy_QqYe--/c_fit,fl_progressive,w_636/dlarvavtu3wmm9zywegs.gif

:cheers:

[T_L_P]

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--nUy_QqYe--/c_fit,fl_progressive,w_636/dlarvavtu3wmm9zywegs.gif

:cheers:

Getting to the Finals and losing > 9th seed

:cheers:

[kamil]

Thread title misleading. No photos of his ceiling. 1 starred.

http://i60.tinypic.com/9r16qw.jpg

[aboss4real24]

Getting to the Finals and losing > 9th seed

:cheers:

nope :oldlol:

Theres players who will tell u that they would rather Just lose in the playoffs or not even make the offs then Lose in the finals/Offs n heartbreakn fashion like the spurs did

Or like LAC Might do


I Win again :banana:

[T_L_P]

nope :oldlol:

Theres players who will tell u that they would rather Just lose in the playoffs or not even make the offs then Lose in the finals/Offs n heartbreakn fashion like the spurs did

Or like LAC Might do


I Win again :banana:

Nope what?

I'm talking about as a fan. How it must feel to sit through the Playoffs every year without doing anything. You'll never know the feeling of winning a ring -- or, perhaps, even making the Playoffs.

:oldlol:

[Paul George 24]

nope :oldlol:

Theres players who will tell u that they would rather Just lose in the playoffs or not even make the offs then Lose in the finals/Offs n heartbreakn fashion like the spurs did

Or like LAC Might do


I Win again :banana:

no ring 4ever = melo :oldlol:

[tgan3]

peak shawn marion

[aboss4real24]

no ring 4ever = melo :oldlol:


No Ring or Scoring title 4ever=Paul Catfish george :lol

[Kawhi Not?]

3rd best SF in the NBA is his ceiling.

[blacknapalm]

all-star. mini pippen. not as versatile defensively or as good a passer but will have better shot selection and comparable scoring

[Pointguard]

19-21 ppg / 8-9 rpg / 2-3 spg / couple of three's on good %'s / 36-39 mpg

Do it all player with skill ala Shawn Marion. All-NBA defense. Tayshaun Prince-level defensive impact for a contender but more of an offensive contributor. Possibly the best rebounding SF in the league that isn't a SF/PF tweener? With enough minutes could be top-3 in steals ala Marion, Thaddeus, Iguodala, etc. Didn't predict him to be a future All-Star a year or two ago, but at the time I forgot how easy it is to make the AS game (cough Roy Hibbert) and Kawhi continues to improve. Much untapped potential. He's got solid moves both off the ball and to get himself open.

Sdac, why did Pop lower his minutes from last years playoffs? Why is he so concerned with his minutes? Is Kawhi like Gin and tires?

[Artillery]

better than Chandler Parsons, that's for sure

[CeilingFan#1]

http://i60.tinypic.com/9r16qw.jpg

Eh, would look better with a ceiling fan. Nice wall and trim though :applause:

[TheMagicMan]

22/7/5 :confusedshrug:

[andremiller07]

Bigger Shawn Marion with a better handle and jumper

[T_L_P]

22/7/5 :confusedshrug:

He definitely doesn't have 5 APG in him. And I think he can rebound more than that, assuming he plays big minutes.

[TheMilkyBarKid]

Small ball line-up with him at PF has so much potential.

[AintNoSunshine]

Every team would want him, but STFU about him being a first option

[Ball So Harden]

Every team would want him, but STFU about him being a first option

This. He isn't winning a chip as anything more than a 3rd man.

[Paul George 24]

This. He isn't winning a chip as anything more than a 3rd man.

so soul :oldlol:

[NZStreetBaller]

Great team player. very physically gifted great athlete has mass potential enough to be a top 5 player but lacks killer instinct. (hes probably the most laid back guy in the league) and isnt selfish enough. just a good team player

[VIntageNOvel]

with average/standard growth he will be iguodala
a very solid second option

ceiling is pippen

[Paul George 24]

Great team player. very physically gifted great athlete has mass potential enough to be a top 5 player but lacks killer instinct. (hes probably the most laid back guy in the league) and isnt selfish enough. just a good team player

lack of killer instinct ??????? hv u seen he plays in 2012 against okc & heat last year :confusedshrug:

[Paul George 24]

with average/standard growth he will be iguodala
a very solid second option

ceiling is pippen

hope so :rockon:

[miles berg]

Next Shawn Marion.

STUD

[SsKSpurs21]

Sdac, why did Pop lower his minutes from last years playoffs? Why is he so concerned with his minutes? Is Kawhi like Gin and tires?

its a question that baffles all spurs fans. we dont understand why kawhi isnt playing 30-40 mins a night. the point differential when he is on the floor is staggering. he is still young. hes got the juice to play major minutes. his minutes are gradually increasing as the playoffs roll on so iam just trusting pop because he seems to know what he is doing.

[riseagainst]

2nd best sf in the league after Durant.

[Paul George 24]

its a question that baffles all spurs fans. we dont understand why kawhi isnt playing 30-40 mins a night. the point differential when he is on the floor is staggering. he is still young. hes got the juice to play major minutes. his minutes are gradually increasing as the playoffs roll on so iam just trusting pop because he seems to know what he is doing.

so we can sign him with less money :lol

[kamil]

Eh, would look better with a ceiling fan. Nice wall and trim though :applause:

LOL

[imdaman99]

Honestly, I'd rather have him than Melo :confusedshrug:

[VIntageNOvel]

2nd best sf in the league after Durant.

:no:
dude you forgot one person
yes p george :bowdown:

[SCdac]

I think Pop has kept Kawhi's minutes low for of a number of reasons. 1) they're really deep, Green and Belinelli slide to SF at times 2) fear of injuries, even for Kawhi (broken finger recently) 3) maintain pecking order (Duncan-Parker-Ginobili centric offense) 4) bringing Kawhi on slowly for his sake and the Spurs sake 5) keeping his price tag low

It reminds me of the way SA handled Splitter the last few years and eventually it paid off for him. Tiago initially had complained (internally) that he wasn't getting enough minutes, he was a professional from overseas yadda yadda. But he just didn't realize it's a process, learning the Spurs' system. It's been a long process for Tiago. In saying that, hopefully Spurs can retain Kawhi. Would be bittersweet if he was traded in a good deal. Def become a fan favorite.

[SsKSpurs21]

I think Pop has kept Kawhi's minutes low for of a number of reasons. 1) they're really deep, Green and Belinelli slide to SF at times 2) fear of injuries, even for Kawhi (broken finger recently) 3) maintain pecking order (Duncan-Parker-Ginobili centric offense) 4) bringing Kawhi on slowly for his sake and the Spurs sake 5) keeping his price tag low

It reminds me of the way SA handled Splitter the last few years and eventually it paid off for him. Tiago initially had complained (internally) that he wasn't getting enough minutes, he was a professional from overseas yadda yadda. But he just didn't realize it's a process, learning the Spurs' system. It's been a long process for Tiago. In saying that, hopefully Spurs can retain Kawhi. Would be bittersweet if he was traded in a good deal. Def become a fan favorite.

I felt the same way about George Hill. easily a fan favorite. he also lives a few houses down from my parents. sucked to see him traded but Kawhi has paid off greatly. cant expect lightening to strike twice but it happens in SA (ie. david and tim)

[SCdac]

I felt the same way about George Hill. easily a fan favorite. he also lives a few houses down from my parents. sucked to see him traded but Kawhi has paid off greatly. cant expect lightening to strike twice but it happens in SA (ie. david and tim)

Definitely like Hill, he was awesome, however flawed. He always gave it his all and had a big series against Dallas I remember. Spurs kinda plucked him out of nowhere... well a small college at least.

With Kawhi it was less luck in the lottery and more great drafting, trading, and team management by the Spurs. Turned a 26th overall draft pick (Hill) into Kawhi who was on a number of teams radars and a near lottery pick. Spurs have made due with very many late 1st round picks and 2 round picks in the last decade (comes with winning though), so essentially trading up in the draft was awesome and has paid dividends.

but yea mock drafts had Kawhi going fairly high a few years go

#9 to the Bobcats
http://www.nbadraft.net/2011mock_draft

#6 to the Wizards
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/736350-2011-nba-mock-draft-projecting-all-30-first-round-picks/page/7

In a compilation of 19 mock drafts (including ISH) Kawhi's total ranking was 7th , behind only Irving, D. Williams, Kanter, Knight, Valanciunas, and Vesely
http://www.nba.com/bobcats/11_mock_drafts.html

[Pointguard]

its a question that baffles all spurs fans. we dont understand why kawhi isnt playing 30-40 mins a night. the point differential when he is on the floor is staggering. he is still young. hes got the juice to play major minutes. his minutes are gradually increasing as the playoffs roll on so iam just trusting pop because he seems to know what he is doing.
Thanks.

[Le Shaqtus]

The game is about puttn the ball in the hoop :lol

He's not even the best in the league at it

[Anaximandro1]

Kawhi has a higher ceiling than Parker.

Spurs looked finished three years ago ... Kawhi joined the team, and now the Spurs reached the WCF for a franchise-record third straight time.

Kawhi gives the Spurs a small chance of beating OKC.


Playoffs - Kawhi

2013 - MP 36.9 -> 13.5 PTS / 9.0 TRB / 1.0 AST / 1.8 STL / 0.5 BLK / TS% 61.1

2014 - MP 31.8 -> 14.0 PTS / 7.5 TRB / 1.1 AST / 1.8 STL / 0.4 BLK / TS% 60.6

[ArbitraryWater]

GOAT..

No seriously I knew he was gon be a beast since I saw him in last year's playoffs.