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J Shuttlesworth
05-15-2014, 02:16 AM
Player A: 32 PPG, 8 RPG, 5.4 APG
Player B: 30 PPG, 11 RPG, 5 APG

Who you got? Will post who they are later after a few ppl respond

Young X
05-15-2014, 02:21 AM
Player B = David Robinson

J Shuttlesworth
05-15-2014, 02:22 AM
DRob and KD
Neither of those are right. I posted purposefully loose stats too just so you guys can't google this shit (IB some stat nerd figures it out)

Pick a guy though. The numbers are close


Player B = David Robinson
It's not who i had in mind, but he may have put up those numbers

navy
05-15-2014, 02:22 AM
Depends on the first option position and defense.

Marchesk
05-15-2014, 02:25 AM
Does player B protect the rim?

Prometheus
05-15-2014, 02:26 AM
Who's the first option? What position are they playing to get these stats? How is their defense? Turnovers? FG%?

Picking a "second option" based off of only PPG/RPG/APG with no information about any aspect of the team is as much nonsense as deciding what songs to download based on how many beats per minute they are.

I'd pick player B though, easily.

J Shuttlesworth
05-15-2014, 02:27 AM
Does player B protect the rim?
Despite the rebound numbers, not really... not like DRob or Shaq or anything like that.

Will post the results on page 2. PM me for more info

J Shuttlesworth
05-15-2014, 02:30 AM
Who's the first option? What position are they playing to get these stats? How is their defense? Turnovers? FG%?

Picking a "second option" based off of only PPG/RPG/APG with no information about any aspect of the team is as much nonsense as deciding what songs to download based on how many beats per minute they are.

I'd pick player B though, easily.
I want to give more info but I don't want to give away the answers :lol

Let's say player A is a great energy player and great in the clutch. Assume his position is SG.

Player B is playing as a PF but capable of hitting outside shots or driving in. Not a great rim protector, but can play good man to man D.

hahaitme
05-15-2014, 02:30 AM
Player A: 32 PPG, 8 RPG, 5.4 APG
Player B: 30 PPG, 11 RPG, 5 APG

Who you got? Will post who they are later after a few ppl respond

Pretty close stats. I'd probably take 3 boards over 2 points and .4ast though.

Could be 3 offensive boards right there :cheers:

navy
05-15-2014, 02:31 AM
Rebounds are overrated. Ill take player A.

hahaitme
05-15-2014, 02:34 AM
I want to give more info but I don't want to give away the answers :lol

Let's say player A is a great energy player and great in the clutch. Assume his position is SG.

Player B is playing as a PF but capable of hitting outside shots or driving in. Not a great rim protector, but can play good man to man D.


A = Jordan?

J Shuttlesworth
05-15-2014, 02:38 AM
A = Jordan?
Not Jordan. MJ could never be considered a 2nd option. Plus Jordan is far more than just an energy player. He's the complete game.

Young X
05-15-2014, 02:38 AM
Are these regular season numbers or playoff numbers?

J Shuttlesworth
05-15-2014, 02:39 AM
Are these regular season numbers or playoff numbers?
These are playoff numbers... not that it really matters to answer the question posed in the thread.

bigt
05-15-2014, 02:39 AM
I want to give more info but I don't want to give away the answers :lol

Let's say player A is a great energy player and great in the clutch. Assume his position is SG.

Player B is playing as a PF but capable of hitting outside shots or driving in. Not a great rim protector, but can play good man to man D.

If that's the case, with no knowledge of the 1st option, I'd probably pick Player A. A clutch player is always great, and 8 rebounds from a guard is nice. If they were both the same position though I'd probably pick B

Prometheus
05-15-2014, 02:44 AM
These are playoff numbers... not that it really matters to answer the question posed in the thread.

These guys are second options averaging 30+ points and 5+ assists in the playoffs? wtf. beyond stacked either way.

J.Pullicin
05-15-2014, 02:47 AM
Player A: Jerry West
Player B: Karl Malone

Am I right?

J Shuttlesworth
05-15-2014, 02:47 AM
Alright time to post the ANSWERS!

ANSWERS HERE!

Player A: Russell Westbrook's numbers vs. the Clippers through 5 games. Great numbers by Russ

Player B: Chris Bosh... AND WADE COMBINED against the Nets through 5 games

Didn't want to post full playoff numbers since they'd be easy to find, but here are their full playoff #s this year:

27/8/8 for Russ
31/10/5 for Crwyane Bade

Young X
05-15-2014, 02:48 AM
:facepalm

inclinerator
05-15-2014, 02:49 AM
Alright time to post the ANSWERS!

ANSWERS HERE!

Player A: Russell Westbrook's numbers vs. the Clippers through 5 games. Great numbers by Russ

Player B: Chris Bosh... AND WADE COMBINED against the Nets through 5 games
gawdbrook

fiddy
05-15-2014, 02:53 AM
:facepalm
/thread

hahaitme
05-15-2014, 02:54 AM
Alright time to post the ANSWERS!

ANSWERS HERE!

Player A: Russell Westbrook's numbers vs. the Clippers through 5 games. Great numbers by Russ

Player B: Chris Bosh... AND WADE COMBINED against the Nets through 5 games

Didn't want to post full playoff numbers since they'd be easy to find, but here are their full playoff #s this year:

27/8/8 for Russ
31/10/5 for Crwyane Bade

When you said 2nd option I actually thought RWB but I don't really know if Clutch counts

I know he made those 3 FT's the other day, but I've seen him throw up a lot of bricks in the clutch too.

Prometheus
05-15-2014, 02:56 AM
Alright time to post the ANSWERS!

ANSWERS HERE!

Player A: Russell Westbrook's numbers vs. the Clippers through 5 games. Great numbers by Russ

Player B: Chris Bosh... AND WADE COMBINED against the Nets through 5 games

Didn't want to post full playoff numbers since they'd be easy to find, but here are their full playoff #s this year:

27/8/8 for Russ
31/10/5 for Crwyane Bade

http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1337/03/1337030513897.gif

Well played sir. Excellent work. This demonstrates how false the notion is that LeBron is on the "MOST STACKED TEAM IN HISTORY" :oldlol: agenda carefully thought-out and executed to perfection.

BlazerRed
05-15-2014, 02:57 AM
http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1337/03/1337030513897.gif

Well played sir. Excellent work. This demonstrates how false the notion is that LeBron is on the "MOST STACKED TEAM IN HISTORY" :oldlol: agenda carefully thought-out and executed to perfection.
Added to the ignore list :facepalm

Prometheus
05-15-2014, 03:00 AM
Added to the ignore list :facepalm

:lol

J Shuttlesworth
05-15-2014, 03:00 AM
http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1337/03/1337030513897.gif

Well played sir. Excellent work. This demonstrates how false the notion is that LeBron is on the "MOST STACKED TEAM IN HISTORY" :oldlol: agenda carefully thought-out and executed to perfection.
Thank you. I've already rustled the LeBron haters. Honestly though, those numbers don't lie. I didn't exaggerate shit, and it's pretty clear that Durant has a better 2nd option than LeBron ever had. Even 2011 Wade didn't put up numbers that good in the playoffs. This is what i mean when I say chip or bust.

fiddy
05-15-2014, 03:01 AM
http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1337/03/1337030513897.gif

Well played sir. Excellent work. This demonstrates how false the notion is that LeBron is on the "MOST STACKED TEAM IN HISTORY" :oldlol: agenda carefully thought-out and executed to perfection.
Take George Carlin off your avatar retard :facepalm

Prometheus
05-15-2014, 03:02 AM
Thank you. I've already rustled the LeBron haters. Honestly though, those numbers don't lie. I didn't exaggerate shit, and it's pretty clear that Durant has a better 2nd option than LeBron ever had. Even 2011 Wade didn't put up numbers that good in the playoffs. This is what i mean when I say chip or bust.

Durant IS the second option.

Prometheus
05-15-2014, 03:03 AM
Take George Carlin off your avatar retard :facepalm

why

J Shuttlesworth
05-15-2014, 03:03 AM
Take George Carlin off your avatar retard :facepalm
Honest question for you... Why are you angry about this thread? I seriously want to know

Ball So Harden
05-15-2014, 03:08 AM
What does this prove again?

J Shuttlesworth
05-15-2014, 03:09 AM
What does this prove again?
That Miami's big 3 are no more stacked than OKC's big 2. Chip or bust

Castor Troy
05-15-2014, 03:12 AM
The Heat are "stacked" with name players. However, most of them are over the hill and declining. Out of the Miami Big 3 and the OKC Duo, KD and WB would make up two of the top 3.

While Miami may still win the championship this year, it is obvious that he will need better help next year.

plowking
05-15-2014, 03:13 AM
Thank you. I've already rustled the LeBron haters. Honestly though, those numbers don't lie. I didn't exaggerate shit, and it's pretty clear that Durant has a better 2nd option than LeBron ever had. Even 2011 Wade didn't put up numbers that good in the playoffs. This is what i mean when I say chip or bust.

2011 Wade was better than Westbrook. Since then it has been Westbrook though.

J Shuttlesworth
05-15-2014, 03:15 AM
2011 Wade was better than Westbrook. Since then it has been Westbrook though.
I'd agree Wade is an overall better player in his prime. As far as now, Westbrook is nearly outperforming Bosh and Wade combined in the playoffs.

Prometheus
05-15-2014, 03:15 AM
2011 Wade was better than Westbrook. Since then it has been Westbrook though.

Wade was ballin in the finals, but lettuce not forget how bad he played in the ECF. He's been inconsistent since the Decision.

Ball So Harden
05-15-2014, 03:20 AM
That Miami's big 3 are no more stacked than OKC's big 2. Chip or bust

Is that a debate? I thought everybody knew both teams are stacked.

J Shuttlesworth
05-15-2014, 03:21 AM
Is that a debate? I thought everybody knew both teams are stacked.
Most sane people know this. OKC fans try to act like Durant doesn't have enough around him to win a championship.

KD35Brah
05-15-2014, 03:23 AM
Thank you. I've already rustled the LeBron haters. Honestly though, those numbers don't lie. I didn't exaggerate shit, and it's pretty clear that Durant has a better 2nd option than LeBron ever had. Even 2011 Wade didn't put up numbers that good in the playoffs. This is what i mean when I say chip or bust.
Wade averaged 30PPG(53%) 7RPG 5APG 2SPG! all better than Lebron except for RPG in the Celtics Series in 2011.:roll: :roll::roll:

J Shuttlesworth
05-15-2014, 03:26 AM
Wade averaged 30PPG(53%) 7RPG 5APG 2SPG! all better than Lebron except for RPG in the Celtics Series in 2011.:roll: :roll::roll:
Sure, and that's better than Durant this year too. Way to bring up the past when we're talking about stats from this year. This year, Durant has more help than LeBron does. Chip or bust

rhowen4
05-15-2014, 03:33 AM
lol that was pretty creative of you

plowking
05-15-2014, 03:36 AM
Most sane people know this. OKC fans try to act like Durant doesn't have enough around him to win a championship.

I'm pretty sure most people know OKC has the better team.

Rocketswin2013
05-15-2014, 03:38 AM
Thank you. I've already rustled the LeBron haters. Honestly though, those numbers don't lie. I didn't exaggerate shit, and it's pretty clear that Durant has a better 2nd option than LeBron ever had. Even 2011 Wade didn't put up numbers that good in the playoffs. This is what i mean when I say chip or bust.
I mean, KD got bailed out in all-time fashion in TWO straight series. Playing like absolute garbage for...What was it? Game 4 vs Memphis I think? And Game 5 against the Clippers. Yet still winning.


Westbrook is just a monster right now though tbh. Putting up peak Magic stats but with more 3P shooting and scoring.

pauk
05-15-2014, 03:43 AM
Well yea, KD's 2 other guys (Harden/Westbrook & now Ibaka/Westbrook) have if i remember correctly always been more productive combined compared to Bosh/Wade, this playoffs its something like:

14/6/1 - Bosh
17/4/4 - Wade
31/10/5

vs

13/8/1 - Ibaka
27/8/8 - Westbrook
40/16/9

Ball So Harden
05-15-2014, 03:50 AM
Most sane people know this. OKC fans try to act like Durant doesn't have enough around him to win a championship.

He does get too much criticism in the sense that he got to the Finals and lost to the better team in 2012, then was shorthanded last year with Westbrook down so that is understandable, yet he still gets criticism. He very well could get to the Finals again this year, but it has yet to be determined.

j3lademaster
05-15-2014, 04:11 AM
Well yea, KD's 2 other guys (Harden/Westbrook & now Ibaka/Westbrook) have if i remember correctly always been more productive combined compared to Bosh/Wade, this playoffs its something like:

14/6/1 - Bosh
17/4/4 - Wade
31/10/5

vs

13/8/1 - Ibaka
27/8/8 - Westbrook
40/16/9nice try sneaking in a 1st option to try to downplay bosh/wade. Wb clearly has less help than bron the way kd's played.

Solefade
05-15-2014, 04:13 AM
Alright time to post the ANSWERS!

ANSWERS HERE!

Player A: Russell Westbrook's numbers vs. the Clippers through 5 games. Great numbers by Russ

Player B: Chris Bosh... AND WADE COMBINED against the Nets through 5 games

Didn't want to post full playoff numbers since they'd be easy to find, but here are their full playoff #s this year:

27/8/8 for Russ
31/10/5 for Crwyane Bade


well played my man :cheers:

Lonely_Sandberg
05-15-2014, 07:06 AM
Player A: 32 PPG, 8 RPG, 5.4 APG
Player B: 30 PPG, 11 RPG, 5 APG

Who you got? Will post who they are later after a few ppl respond

http://www.abload.de/img/santiago10igs5z.gif

J Shuttlesworth
05-15-2014, 10:29 AM
Bump

riseagainst
05-15-2014, 10:36 AM
oh look. OP with his agenda.
:rolleyes:

dunksby
05-15-2014, 11:13 AM
So we are back to 2012 when LeBron stans were so scared of OKC they tried to create the LeBron underdog narrative. Have some dignity FFS!

Chizdog
05-15-2014, 11:22 AM
Kill yourself ****** Westbrook is the #1 option

J Shuttlesworth
05-15-2014, 11:59 AM
So we are back to 2012 when LeBron stans were so scared of OKC they tried to create the LeBron underdog narrative. Have some dignity FFS!
Nope. I'm just pointing out how huge of a failure it will be when OKC loses

tmacattack33
05-15-2014, 12:45 PM
Alright time to post the ANSWERS!

ANSWERS HERE!

Player A: Russell Westbrook's numbers vs. the Clippers through 5 games. Great numbers by Russ

Player B: Chris Bosh... AND WADE COMBINED against the Nets through 5 games

Didn't want to post full playoff numbers since they'd be easy to find, but here are their full playoff #s this year:

27/8/8 for Russ
31/10/5 for Crwyane Bade


:applause:




Interesting thread. Good idea. Will read again. The only issue is that Westbrook has been OKC's #1 option over these playoffs, not really the number 2.

DMAVS41
05-15-2014, 12:52 PM
Another day...another day in which people try and pretend like Durant doesn't have enough help.

:confusedshrug:

kshutts1
05-15-2014, 01:01 PM
I don't think it's really worthy of discussion... OKC Is more talented, but the Heat are much better put together. One is a bunch of talent thrown together, the other is a team.

DMAVS41
05-15-2014, 01:25 PM
I don't think it's really worthy of discussion... OKC Is more talented, but the Heat are much better put together. One is a bunch of talent thrown together, the other is a team.

Meh...the Heat have a flawed roster as well. Their bigs don't rebound worth shit....and so far in the playoffs...neither do their guards.

Wade/Lebron are still redundant offensively and Bosh still disappears for long stretches.


Acting like the Heat are some model of what a "team" is...well, is just silly.

Prometheus
05-15-2014, 01:30 PM
Meh...the Heat have a flawed roster as well. Their bigs don't rebound worth shit....and so far in the playoffs...neither do their guards.

Wade/Lebron are still redundant offensively and Bosh still disappears for long stretches.


Acting like the Heat are some model of what a "team" is...well, is just silly.

this

Demitri98
05-15-2014, 01:31 PM
Edit: nevermind, did not see the post with the answers.

Fudge
05-15-2014, 01:31 PM
Uh... Russ is actually averaging 30/8/7 for the Clippers series, and 27/8/8 for the playoffs so far.

GOAT gon GOAT. :bowdown:

moe94
05-15-2014, 01:33 PM
Uh... Russ is actually averaging 30/8/7 for the Clippers series, and 27/8/8 for the playoffs so far.

GOAT gon GOAT. :bowdown:

#stacked

DMAVS41
05-15-2014, 01:40 PM
Uh... Russ is actually averaging 30/8/7 for the Clippers series, and 27/8/8 for the playoffs so far.

GOAT gon GOAT. :bowdown:

It really is just over at this point. The conversation about Durant needing more or different help is over.

The dude has gotten two of the biggest superstar bailout games in NBA history...and he got them in the two biggest games of the playoffs. They lose game 4 at Memphis or game 5 this series and they are almost for sure done.

Not only that, but Durant has a guy on his team that can manufacture points on his own with ease...and it also an elite rebounder at the guard position and a very good defender (although he makes silly mistakes)...

Ibaka is also so under-rated here. He gives you like 13/8/1 and doesn't need the ball and defends on and off the ball very well.

Honestly....if I had to build a team around Durant...it would be close to the current team...just with better play at the sg position (should have traded for Afflalo or given Lamb more burn all season)

The ideal team for Durant would probably be a version of Conley/Afflalo/Durant/Ibaka/Marc Gasol

Guess what though....you don't get the ideal team in reality.

I've heard people talk about Parker or Rondo in place of WB. That would not work. Parker doesn't defend/rebound nearly well enough to make that work...and Rondo can't score nearly well enough.

There is no other point in the league you'd take over WB on this Thunder team. Perhaps Paul, but honestly not sure...

Batz
05-15-2014, 01:41 PM
Alright time to post the ANSWERS!

ANSWERS HERE!

Player A: Russell Westbrook's numbers vs. the Clippers through 5 games. Great numbers by Russ

Player B: Chris Bosh... AND WADE COMBINED against the Nets through 5 games

Didn't want to post full playoff numbers since they'd be easy to find, but here are their full playoff #s this year:

27/8/8 for Russ
31/10/5 for Crwyane Bade
Well that was anti-climactic.

J Shuttlesworth
05-15-2014, 03:23 PM
Uh... Russ is actually averaging 30/8/7 for the Clippers series, and 27/8/8 for the playoffs so far.

GOAT gon GOAT. :bowdown:
Yup. He's the best player on his team, and the 2nd best player in the league :bowdown:

GimmeThat
05-15-2014, 03:37 PM
Alright time to post the ANSWERS!

ANSWERS HERE!

Player A: Russell Westbrook's numbers vs. the Clippers through 5 games. Great numbers by Russ

Player B: Chris Bosh... AND WADE COMBINED against the Nets through 5 games

Didn't want to post full playoff numbers since they'd be easy to find, but here are their full playoff #s this year:

27/8/8 for Russ
31/10/5 for Crwyane Bade


I am so tired of the Lebron Homerism on this board

:biggums:

ArbitraryWater
05-15-2014, 03:58 PM
Alright time to post the ANSWERS!

ANSWERS HERE!

Player A: Russell Westbrook's numbers vs. the Clippers through 5 games. Great numbers by Russ

Player B: Chris Bosh... AND WADE COMBINED against the Nets through 5 games

Didn't want to post full playoff numbers since they'd be easy to find, but here are their full playoff #s this year:

27/8/8 for Russ
31/10/5 for Crwyane Bade

:roll: :roll: