while everyone was complaining about Durant getting special refs treatment....

[riseagainst]

why is no one mentioning Lebron's special ref treatment so far in the playoffs?

avging 11 FTA a game and having a FTr of almost .63, highest since his 09 playoffs, where he got every single call from the refs.


Durant doesn't even come close to those rates.

[jimmy77x]

Lebron Stans are hypocrite's. Whine and bitch all day about KD when lebeta gets every call while traveling every game and is allowed foul on defense/ push off defenders barreling his way to the basket, With his basic ass game:lol

[Fudge]

LeBrons been getting ref treatment for all of his career, so I'm honestly not even surprised.

At least for Durant, he's been getting calls here and there only for the past 2 seasons.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

one shoots jumpers and flails, the other attacks the rim and is a tank.
not lebrons fault that the nets were so retarded to grab his shoulders everytime he drove to the rim:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

[jlip]

why is no one mentioning Lebron's special ref treatment so far in the playoffs?

avging 11 FTA a game and having a FTr of almost .63, highest since his 09 playoffs, where he got every single call from the refs.


Durant doesn't even come close to those rates.

There were at least 3 threads complaining about this last night alone.

[inclinerator]

one shoots jumpers and flails, the other attacks the rim and is a tank.
not lebrons fault that the nets were so retarded to grab his shoulders everytime he drove to the rim:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
welcome back

[NumberSix]

why is no one mentioning Lebron's special ref treatment so far in the playoffs?

avging 11 FTA a game and having a FTr of almost .63, highest since his 09 playoffs, where he got every single call from the refs.


Durant doesn't even come close to those rates.
Because there isn't any.

[BuffaloBill]

We're used to it by now

[russwest0]

Compared to the regular season, LeBron's FTA go up significantly despite taking less shots
While Durant's FTA go down significantly despite taking more shots

Won't stop Heat fans from making OKC GDT's almost unreadable with their whining (though I now ignored all the dipshits)

[NumberSix]

LeBron's FTA go up significantly on less shots
Durant's FTA go down significantly on more shots

Won't stop Heat fans from making OKC GDT's almost unreadable with their whining (though I now ignored all the dipshits)
When you get fouled, it doesn't count as a field goal attempt. :hammerhead:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Not really about the amount of calls he gets.. Its the lack of ones called against him. Guy is allowed to hand/body-check late in games whereas other players arent.

[russwest0]

The worst shit is seeing Joe Johnson simply touch LeBron and get the foul call and LeBron given FT's for it and LeBron stans acting like it was a good call.

Yet Tony Allen does far worse to KD and is far more physical and LeBron stans acted like that was fine as well :roll: :roll: :roll:

[wally_world]

Because there isn't any.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[tmacattack33]

Many of the fouls on Lebron are intentional, as intended to put him on the foul line instead of letting him get a lay up or dunk.

[pegasus]

Not really about the amount of calls he gets.. Its the lack of ones called against him. Guy is allowed to hand/body-check late in games whereas other players arent.

This. It's disgusting what he gets away with. And his teammates too (not to the same extent, but they also get to slap and push and get away with most of it). It's Pat Riley's motto. "Foul every chance you get. Refs are not gonna call all of them, and when they do, complain." He actually said something like that.

[russwest0]

In game 4 where LeBron got like 20 FT's and the Heat barely won, the lead official for that game has officiated the Heat to a 21-2 record in the LeBron era.

[J Shuttlesworth]

lol did you guys even watch game 5? Kidd's game plan was to hack LeBron any time he got into the paint. It's actually a really smart strategy since he's less likely to earn them at the line than to get a layup. He's normally a 75% FT shooter, but last night he was like 15-17 or something. It's a smart strategy, but backfired.

[DonDadda59]

Considering how many times he drives to the basket, he should have a much higher FTr than a jump shooter like Durant. That wasn't the case in the regular season as I pointed out HERE (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=331918) but looks like the refs went to the other extreme with Bron once the playoffs started:lol

[AnaheimLakers24]

hes allowed to shoulder drive and they call those against the players that are defending him. blame the refs not the fgt

[Hoopz2332]

Lebron should always get more Ft's than Durant. The difference in their attack is...

Lebron

http://i.imgur.com/HVXGwdI.jpg


http://cdn2.sbnation.com/assets/4032439/lenose.gif



Durant




http://i.minus.com/iOaY1qQFAnL3J.gif

http://i.imgur.com/Y0kC22k.gif

http://i.imgur.com/FpVe2kF.gif

[NumberSix]

Come on shake your body baby do that conga

[Nash]

are ya'll seriously having this discussion? Lebron is a freight train that constantly drives to the basket. He should lead the nba in fta.

[Solefade]

Lebron should always get more Ft's than Durant. The difference in their attack is...

Lebron

http://i.imgur.com/HVXGwdI.jpg


http://cdn2.sbnation.com/assets/4032439/lenose.gif



Durant




http://i.minus.com/iOaY1qQFAnL3J.gif

http://i.imgur.com/Y0kC22k.gif

http://i.imgur.com/FpVe2kF.gif


sit your ass down russwest

[NumberSix]

Considering how many times he drives to the basket, he should have a much higher FTr than a jump shooter like Durant. That wasn't the case in the regular season as I pointed out HERE (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=331918) but looks like the refs went to the other extreme with Bron once the playoffs started:lol
This is how many FTA they are averaging in the playoffs.

Durant: 9.7
LeBron: 10.9


Anyone who actually think Durant should even be that close to LeBron is insane. There should be a much bigger gap than 1.2 FTA

[Threethrows]

As a neutral fan that admires both players and hates stan behavior it's because LeBron is much more aggressive driving to the hoop. Does he get preferential treatment however? Yes, they both do. As have most stars.

[Hoopz2332]

This is how many FTA they are averaging in the playoffs.

Durant: 9.7
LeBron: 10.9


Anyone who actually think Durant should even be that close to LeBron is insane. There should be a much bigger gap than 1.2 FTA


damn shame Durant avg almost the same amount of Ft's as LBJ while shooting jumper after jumper:coleman:

[Trollsmasher]

all LeBron calls were the right calls so far in the playoffs

Durant should be averaging about 2-3 FTAs per game less though.

[Cocaine80s]

Personally, i think both of them have been deserving their free throws these playoffs. Most of the fouls called on both have been legit. But Durant is going up against more physical teams so he isnt driving in as much.

[NumberSix]

all LeBron calls were the right calls so far in the playoffs

Durant should be averaging about 2-3 FTAs per game less though.
In game 4, LeBron get a couple cheap calls. They weren't ALL legit. However, that's a drop in the bucket compared to the BS calls KD gets on a night to night basis.

[Solefade]

As a neutral fan that admires both players and hates stan behavior it's because LeBron is much more aggressive driving to the hoop. Does he get preferential treatment however? Yes, they both do. As have most stars.


how do you like both and are neutral about them?

it's like if you're a dude you either like males or females. anything inbetween is being bisexual and we all know that's just a myth when it comes to dudes :oldlol:

[Threethrows]

how do you like both and are neutral about them?

it's like if you're a dude you either like males or females. anything inbetween is being bisexual and we all know that's just a myth when it comes to dudes :oldlol:

How is that at all the same thing? :facepalm

Do you think neutrality is the same thing as indifference? :facepalm

Do you have reading disorder or do you just have no ability to understand context? :facepalm

[dannywpt]

I don't think people are discussing this because people weren't watching the Eastern Conference games. They were simply too one-sided, and players like bran don't have a very exciting game to watch. I think even the bran sheep were too busy writing conspiracy threads about refs on ISH rather than to watch their boy play

[Sakkreth]

Difference is LeBron drives more often, gets held, hacked etc. Durant goes to charity stripe because of shit like rip throughs.

[rmt]

Lebron's foul on Pierce should have gotten the Nets 2 free-throws. I hate superstar calls. I'm gonna be screaming at the TV vs OKC + refs.

[Rake2204]

If anyone should have a large number of free throw attempts, it should be the two biggest offensive threats in the NBA, likely touching the ball, attacking, and gaining an advantage on their defenders more frequently than most anyone else in the league.

Further, with a guy like James, he's able to turn a defender's shoulders so readily that he's constantly getting himself to the rack with defenders left liable for committing fouls due to their inability to maintain legal defensive position.

[ILLsmak]

How is that at all the same thing? :facepalm

Do you think neutrality is the same thing as indifference? :facepalm

Do you have reading disorder or do you just have no ability to understand context? :facepalm

I like how the facepalm smiley sentences got longer. It's almost like art or by design.

I need a new sport. lol. Whenever two big name teams play it's gonna be rigged. And people are like THE RIGGING IN GAME 2 MAKES UP FOR THE RIGGING IN GAME 1. But... does it really?

Bron would still be a beast if they called fouls normally, same with KD. That's what is mind blowing. Bron needs to get less calls where he just bulls into the lane. As I said a long time ago, I feel like how hard you are going either on a drive or a post move should matter in terms of how much contact you get without a foul.

I'm totally cool with how they are calling fouls on jump shooters because they should be protected, but dudes driving in the paint shouldn't get soft calls as long as they are creating some of the contact themselves.

-Smak

[HoopsFanNumero1]

I like how the facepalm smiley sentences got longer. It's almost like art or by design.

I need a new sport. lol. Whenever two big name teams play it's gonna be rigged. And people are like THE RIGGING IN GAME 2 MAKES UP FOR THE RIGGING IN GAME 1. But... does it really?

Bron would still be a beast if they called fouls normally, same with KD. That's what is mind blowing. Bron needs to get less calls where he just bulls into the lane. As I said a long time ago, I feel like how hard you are going either on a drive or a post move should matter in terms of how much contact you get without a foul.

I'm totally cool with how they are calling fouls on jump shooters because they should be protected, but dudes driving in the paint shouldn't get soft calls as long as they are creating some of the contact themselves.

-Smak

So to summarize, stick figures shooting jump shots should get soft calls all game long, but guys banging in the paint shouldn't? :oldlol:

[livinglegend]

So to summarize, stick figures shooting jump shots should get soft calls all game long, but guys banging in the paint shouldn't? :oldlol:

-Smak

fixed :oldlol:

[edrick]

Driving vs jump shooting... Who experiences more contact. I wonder. :rolleyes:

[Hoopz2332]

So to summarize, stick figures shooting jump shots should get soft calls all game long, but guys banging in the paint shouldn't? :oldlol:


:oldlol: :applause:

[Kingwillball]

Lebron Stans are hypocrite's. Whine and bitch all day about KD when lebeta gets every call while traveling every game and is allowed foul on defense/ push off defenders barreling his way to the basket, With his basic ass game:lol

No Lebron deserves his trips to line attacking basket or in post while KD flails and flops on jumpers.

[Kingwillball]

The worst shit is seeing Joe Johnson simply touch LeBron and get the foul call and LeBron given FT's for it and LeBron stans acting like it was a good call.

Yet Tony Allen does far worse to KD and is far more physical and LeBron stans acted like that was fine as well :roll: :roll: :roll:

It looks worse cause Durant can't handle the contact with his skinny body like Lebron.

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Lebron Stans are hypocrite's. Whine and bitch all day about KD when lebeta gets every call while traveling every game and is allowed foul on defense/ push off defenders barreling his way to the basket, With his basic ass game:lol

Who can't forget that and 1 he got vs the brooklyn nets on a clearly 4 step travel. :rant

The refs I swear are sometimes represent the "three blind mice"

:hammerhead:

[NBAplayoffs2001]

It looks worse cause Durant can't handle the contact with his skinny body like Lebron.

Yeah thats why he averages 7-8 rebounds in a way tougher conference :pimp:

[Im Still Ballin]

Lebron is 260+ pounds and is embracing his physical game more than ever. If anything his free throws are legit, and 4 or so fts a game are just from intentional fouls on the break/open lane.

[riseagainst]

Yeah thats why he averages 7-8 rebounds in a way tougher conference :pimp:

this should shut all the lebron fans down.

:lol

[Im Still Ballin]

Yeah thats why he averages 7-8 rebounds in a way tougher conference :pimp:
Yet that doesn't matter, Lebron is the superior rebounder, as proved in 2012.

[riseagainst]

Yet that doesn't matter, Lebron is the superior rebounder, as proved in 2012.

but it's 2014 right now. A player can't improve in 2 years?

[Im Still Ballin]

but it's 2014 right now. A player can't improve in 2 years?
No, once a skinny niqqa always a skinny niqqa.

[Hoopz2332]

Yeah thats why he averages 7-8 rebounds in a way tougher conference :pimp:


because of faster pace and more possesions/shots in the West and lebron is the better rebounder even while playing with less possession/slower pace. Check the rebound rate from this season and you will see who the better rebounder is

http://i.imgur.com/DEnWkIb.png

Lebron is winning:applause:



this should shut all the lebron fans down.

:lol


dont think so:lol:

[riseagainst]

because of faster pace and more possesions/shots in the West and lebron is the better rebounder even while playing with less possession/slower pace. Check the rebound rate from this season and you will see who the better rebounder is

http://i.imgur.com/DEnWkIb.png

Lebron is winning:applause:





dont think so:lol:


so he's a marginally better rebounder than Durant, who also has top rebounders on his team.

[Hoopz2332]

so he's a marginally better rebounder than Durant, who also has top rebounders on his team.


this season, lebron didn't even hit the boards that hard. Check last season when he tried more

http://i.imgur.com/t1P5QDn.png


I would say lebron is quite easily a better rebounder than durant. When they played in the finals at the same pace, lebron proved this

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2012_finals.html