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russwest0
05-15-2014, 02:02 PM
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10936698/2014-nba-playoffs-nba-fines-los-angeles-clippers-coach-doc-rivers-25000-criticizing-officials

NumberSix
05-15-2014, 02:03 PM
Ridiculous.

russwest0
05-15-2014, 02:05 PM
Ridiculous.

league does this because they view it as an attempt to influence the officials for the next games in the series.

I don't know if Doc has ever coached a contender and not got fined in the playoffs for calling out the refs.

BasedTom
05-15-2014, 02:06 PM
Worth every penny.

funnystuff
05-15-2014, 02:07 PM
Dude would of got banned if he was white.


But in all seriousness, 25k just because you said "We got robbed" :confusedshrug:

NumberSix
05-15-2014, 02:07 PM
It's like trying to force a rape victim to keep quiet.

Clippers got robbed. Everybody knows it. Keeping coaches forced to stay quit doesn't change it.

russwest0
05-15-2014, 02:08 PM
It's like trying to force a rape victim to keep quiet.

Clippers got robbed. Everybody knows it. Keeping coaches forced to stay quit doesn't change it.

The Clippers got robbed because the league messed up an out of bounds call directly after missing a fouling call on the Clippers?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

NumberSix
05-15-2014, 02:11 PM
The Clippers got robbed because the league messed up an out of bounds call directly after missing a fouling call on the Clippers?

:roll: :roll: :roll:
When?

russwest0
05-15-2014, 02:16 PM
When?


All goddamn game. Griffin could of fouled out by the end of the first half if the refs called the things they called on Ibaka on Griffin. Plus the Clippers set more moving screens than any other team in the league. I think it was game 3 where the refs actually started to call these and the Clippers had like one quarter with 5 moving screen calls on them.

Meticode
05-15-2014, 02:19 PM
When?
I think it's the play Barnes made on Jackson. Rivers felt it should've been either Clippers ball, or if they called the play correctly that it should've been a foul on the Clippers which he feels they missed. That's why he said "Get rid of replay."

Becuase the officials will look at the play and they can see where they missed a foul call, so becuase they're human they'll either try to correct it by trying to do a make-up play, or in this case at the end of the game where Jackson fouls Chris Paul on the arm, and it's a total no call. And that non-foul was the reason Paul lost the ball.

Marlo_Stanfield
05-15-2014, 02:20 PM
All goddamn game. Griffin could of fouled out by the end of the first half if the refs called the things they called on Ibaka on Griffin. Plus the Clippers set more moving screens than any other team in the league. I think it was game 3 where the refs actually started to call these and the Clippers had like one quarter with 5 moving screen calls on them.
STFU Russwesst0

russwest0
05-15-2014, 02:21 PM
Rivers even said plainly that it was a missed foul.

I agree with what he's saying on not making up for a missed call by screwing his team but he has to realize he basically just went on that long rant over a missed call for his team while OKC got a missed call that could have screwed them over just as much.

NumberSix
05-15-2014, 02:21 PM
I think it's the play Barnes made on Jackson. Rivers felt it should've been either Clippers ball, or if they called the play correctly that it should've been a foul on the Clippers which he feels they missed. That's why he said "Get rid of replay."

Becuase the officials will look at the play and they can see where they missed a foul call, so becuase they're human they'll either try to correct it by trying to do a make-up play, or in this case at the end of the game where Jackson fouls Chris Paul on the arm, and it's a total no call. And that non-foul was the reason Paul lost the ball.
They didn't miss a foul. Barnes didn't foul Jackson. Completely legal play. It's perfectly legal to hit a guys hand if his hand is on the ball.

GimmeThat
05-15-2014, 02:35 PM
"For the lack of clear explanation about why basketball reasons influences the Natiobal Basketball Association, the NBA fines Doc Rivers 25K for his none-business associated basketball reasons"

"The NBA has decided, while Doc Rivers have made legitimate suggestions and have pointed out the flaws about the system. Since we will make massive revenues in any additional basketball games being played, 25K is a tiny slight penalty for his rebellious behavior"

wally_world
05-15-2014, 02:35 PM
They didn't miss a foul. Barnes didn't foul Jackson. Completely legal play. It's perfectly legal to hit a guys hand if his hand is on the ball.

of course

perfectly legal to smack a guy on his elbow while he's taking a shot too right? :lol

gts
05-15-2014, 02:53 PM
25k is about right.. i think that's the standard amount for whining about the refs though i believe Cuban has had bigger

russwest0
05-15-2014, 03:05 PM
25k is about right.. i think that's the standard amount for whining about the refs though i believe Cuban has had bigger

Cuban got fined 250k for calling the league rigged after the 2006 finals

r0drig0lac
05-15-2014, 03:07 PM
Worth every penny.
this, the next game will be called much more balanced

NumberSix
05-15-2014, 03:36 PM
of course

perfectly legal to smack a guy on his elbow while he's taking a shot too right? :lol
Nobody is talking about elbows idiot. It's legal to hit a players hand if their hand is on the ball. Deal with it.



NBA rule...


Incidental Contact: The mere fact that contact occurs does not mean a foul has been committed. Players are allowed to contact other players when reaching for a loose ball, or when performing normal offensive and defensive movements. The hand is considered “ part of the ball” when it is in contact with the ball and contact with a players hand when it is in contact with the ball is not a foul.

funnystuff
05-15-2014, 04:28 PM
of course

perfectly legal to smack a guy on his elbow while he's taking a shot too right? :lol
The NBA is a contact sport. Considering the circumstances, that foul on that shot is never called unless an OKC player is the one shooting.

LONGTIME
05-15-2014, 04:31 PM
The NBA is a contact sport. Considering the circumstances, that foul on that shot is never called unless an OKC player is the one shooting.

Bullshit.

funnystuff
05-15-2014, 04:42 PM
Bullshit.
Down 2, 10 seconds to go, a brush foul call on the 3 point shot is called, please.

I didn't see Tony Brothers hug CP3s or Blakes mom. :confusedshrug:

BlackVVaves
05-15-2014, 04:55 PM
Nobody is talking about elbows idiot. It's legal to hit a players hand if their hand is on the ball. Deal with it.



NBA rule...

Agreed. Which is why if that contact directly contributes to lost of possession (a la the ball falling out of bounce), possession is awarded to team who last had the ball before the aforementioned contact was initiated.

Because hand is part of the ball, and hitting hand and subsequently causing break in play is comparable to hitting the ball itself and causing it to go out of bounds.

According to league rules, in step with your depiction.

gts
05-15-2014, 05:20 PM
Agreed. Which is why if that contact directly contributes to lost of possession (a la the ball falling out of bounce), possession is awarded to team who last had the ball before the aforementioned contact was initiated.

Because hand is part of the ball, and hitting hand and subsequently causing break in play is comparable to hitting the ball itself and causing it to go out of bounds.

According to league rules, in step with your depiction.

Well said

NumberSix
05-15-2014, 05:57 PM
Agreed. Which is why if that contact directly contributes to lost of possession (a la the ball falling out of bounce), possession is awarded to team who last had the ball before the aforementioned contact was initiated.

Because hand is part of the ball, and hitting hand and subsequently causing break in play is comparable to hitting the ball itself and causing it to go out of bounds.

According to league rules, in step with your depiction.
You're misinterpreting the rule.

If the hand is on the ball, once you hit the hand, it like that hand isn't there. You're not hitting a hand. You're hitting the ball. Normal rules still apply though. When you hit the ball, it still matters who touched it last.

Forgot the left hand. That is what is confusing people. The left hand doesn't exist. He hit the ball. When you strip the ball, if the guy getting stripped is still the person to touch the ball last, it's out on him.

Jackson's left hand = the ball. Jackson's RIGHT hand though was the last thing to touch the ball.

The "part of the ball" rule in this situation only applies to Jackson's LEFT hand. It doesn't apply to his RIGHT hand, which is the thing that touched the ball last.

TheCalmInsanity
05-15-2014, 07:02 PM
You're misinterpreting the rule.

If the hand is on the ball, once you hit the hand, it like that hand isn't there. You're not hitting a hand. You're hitting the ball. Normal rules still apply though. When you hit the ball, it still matters who touched it last.

Forgot the left hand. That is what is confusing people. The left hand doesn't exist. He hit the ball. When you strip the ball, if the guy getting stripped is still the person to touch the ball last, it's out on him.

Jackson's left hand = the ball. Jackson's RIGHT hand though was the last thing to touch the ball.

The "part of the ball" rule in this situation only applies to Jackson's LEFT hand. It doesn't apply to his RIGHT hand, which is the thing that touched the ball last.

This.

How are people so dumb? So if Barnes hit Jackson's hand, but the ball goes flying and goes off of Durant's face, it's gona be off Barnes? It doesn't work that way. If the ball goes off Jackson's RIGHT hand when Barnes hit his LEFT one, the rule doesn't apply. But the fact that he hit Jackson's hand when the ball was there means he didn't foul him.

And LOL at russwest0 complaining that Blake could have been fouled out. Yeah he should have fouled out, the whole Clippers team should have fouled out... 21 fts in the first quarter, the refs were slurping on OKC like they were Jamba Juice... With all the Durant and Westbrook flops and flailing. 28 points on 5 shots in the first quarter for Durant and Westbrook combined. And yet you complain...

kamil
05-15-2014, 07:04 PM
Worth every penny.

Of course a Heat fan would agree.

Adam Silver
05-15-2014, 07:21 PM
I couldn't fine him more or I'd lose the support of the blacks.

russwest0
05-15-2014, 07:26 PM
I couldn't fine him more or I'd lose the support of the blacks.

:lebronamazed: :lebronamazed: :lebronamazed:

sbw19
05-15-2014, 07:33 PM
Remember Cuban was once fined $500k by Stern for criticizing the officials after a regular-season game loss. This is nothing.

NumberSix
05-15-2014, 07:35 PM
Remember Cuban was once fined $500k by Stern for criticizing the officials after a regular-season game loss. This is nothing.

Cuban insinuated that the series was fixed in 2006. He was on a very short leash after that. Rivers said they simply got the call wrong.

sbw19
05-15-2014, 07:40 PM
Cuban insinuated that the series was fixed in 2006. He was on a very short leash after that. Rivers said they simply got the call wrong.

Happened long before the 2006 season. Look it up.

NumberSix
05-15-2014, 07:41 PM
Happened long before the 2006 season. Look it up.
Damn. That's super messed up then.

Maybe because Cuban is an owner and Rivers is just a coach?


Maybe stern is just more of a dick than silver?

sbw19
05-15-2014, 07:52 PM
Damn. That's super messed up then.

Maybe because Cuban is an owner and Rivers is just a coach?


Maybe stern is just more of a dick than silver?

It's probably because Cuban and Stern bumped heads so many times over the years, that Stern got fed up with him and started fining him egregiously. And even that didn't stop Cuban, until he realized it wouldn't help his chances of winning a title so he toned it down esp during the Mavs title run.

gts
05-15-2014, 09:01 PM
Cuban was fined 250k in 2006 for criticizing the refs during the playoffs and a whole bunch of other things.. wasn't just the speaking out

he confronted a ref
yelled at Stern and other league officials sitting in the stands
profanity during a post game news conference

not sure about earlier violations that were for 500k

but this year we had

4/11/14
The NBA fined Dallas $25,000 for PA announcer Sean Heath's tweets
criticizing the refs following the 4/1 Dal-GS game.

12/6/13
The NBA fined Nate Robinson (Den) $25,000 for criticizing the refs
following Friday's Den-NY game.

11/22/13
The NBA fined Mike Woodson (NY) $25,000 for publically criticizing the
refs during a sports radio interview on Thursday.


5/12/13
The NBA fined Tom Thibodeau (Chi) $25,000 for his comments regarding the
officiating following Friday's game 3.


that's just a quick search so 25k for Doc is right about where these usually land