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Ca$H
05-15-2014, 08:03 PM
If you are going to hire a Phil Jackson role player with no coaching experience as the head coach then why not Derek Fisher? He has real leadership qualities unlike Kerr who got punched in the face by MJ. Waiting for D Fish is the better option.

NumberSix
05-15-2014, 08:05 PM
Steve Kerr 4peated.

Rubio2Gasol
05-15-2014, 08:07 PM
Let's end this.

He's not proven. Now we wait and see what he'll do. 15 different aren't needed to figure that out.

Sarcastic
05-15-2014, 08:09 PM
Because Phil Jackson said his name and everyone creamed their pants. He has big shoes to fill in GS. The players loved Mark Jackson.

Bl
05-15-2014, 08:10 PM
his skin is pure

russwest0
05-15-2014, 08:11 PM
he comes across as a bit of a dipshit while commentating.

he is biased as hell against okc though so maybe that's just my perspective.

he also voted lebron as the dpoy this year :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

sketchy
05-15-2014, 08:12 PM
Stephen A Smith would tell you it's because he's white. :rolleyes:

KrizMiz
05-15-2014, 08:12 PM
this guy knows basketball, thats all !

tanner892
05-15-2014, 08:13 PM
It was hyped because of his relationship with Phil and would be seen as a good fit in NY, for Golden State to snap this guy up like he's the best coach in the league makes no sense.

JohnMax
05-15-2014, 08:16 PM
NBA is in high demand for good White coaches

http://i.imgur.com/rqQaLTJ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lwB579S.jpg

Basketbolero
05-15-2014, 08:18 PM
GMs secretly believe he is an older Neil Patrick Harris who came from the future and can reveal to them all kinds of secrets, but mainly what strategy to use to beat the Heat.

ihatetimthomas
05-15-2014, 08:24 PM
He has played under 2 of the greatest coaches ever (Phil Jackson, Popovich). Has played on winning teams, cultures, systems and has the backing of Phil jackson. He is a smart NBA mind and understands what it takes to win as a team. That alone shows me how qualified he is.

CHi1PriDe
05-15-2014, 08:24 PM
Rumor has it that he's going to implement a combo of Pop + triangle style offense :lebronamazed:

Basketbolero
05-15-2014, 08:25 PM
He has played under 2 of the greatest coaches ever (Phil Jackson, Popovich). Has played on winning teams, cultures, systems and has the backing of Phil jackson. He is a smart NBA mind and understands what it takes to win as a team. That alone shows me how qualified he is.
Most of that could be said about Kurt Rambis too...

Bernkastel
05-15-2014, 08:26 PM
He's a very pretty man with makeup. You know some of the owners want some eye candy

Brujo
05-15-2014, 08:26 PM
he comes across as a bit of a dipshit while commentating.

he is biased as hell against okc though so maybe that's just my perspective.

he also voted lebron as the dpoy this year :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:
Crazy because to me he sounded like he just straight hates the clippers

MavsSuperFan
05-15-2014, 08:28 PM
Phil Jackson wanted him. Phil thought he would be a good coach. People around the league respect phil

ihatetimthomas
05-15-2014, 08:29 PM
Most of that could be said about Kurt Rambis too...

Yeah well, not everyone works out right? I dont ever remember there being a high demand for Rambis. Clearly, Kerr is well respected around the league. And his resume says he is a gamble worth taking on. But I could also say Kerr has played in multiple winning teams, and they are completely different systems. That gives him a more diverse knowledge.

russwest0
05-15-2014, 08:31 PM
Crazy because to me he sounded like he just straight hates the clippers

he might hate them too but I swear every OKC game he commentates he goes out of his way to irrationally hate Westbrook and in general just take shots at OKC. Plus he brings up MIA for no reason at all as well.

sketchy
05-15-2014, 08:32 PM
He has played under 2 of the greatest coaches ever (Phil Jackson, Popovich). Has played on winning teams, cultures, systems and has the backing of Phil jackson. He is a smart NBA mind and understands what it takes to win as a team. That alone shows me how qualified he is.
^^This is the real reason. I think he will be a fine coach. I wish him the best though because if things don't go well out of the gate, he could find himself in the hot seat fast. I thought the Knicks would've been a better fit.

Basketbolero
05-15-2014, 08:34 PM
Yeah well, not everyone works out right? I dont ever remember there being a high demand for Rambis. Clearly, Kerr is well respected around the league. And his resume says he is a gamble worth taking on. But I could also say Kerr has played in multiple winning teams, and they are completely different systems. That gives him a more diverse knowledge.
I agree with that. I do believe though that his connections with Phil are overrated, I mean, what other succesful coaches have come from Phil's tutelage? Cartwright would perhaps be the most succesful. Pretty underwhelming really.

And then you had Brian Shaw commenting not so long ago that it felt like the league did not appreciate Phil's legacy and that it was difficult for his former assistant coaches to mention the triangle and not get a look of disbelief from potential employers.

I doubt Phil's endorsement is the main reason why he became such a hot commodity, I don't deny he is most likely a great basketball mind though, let's see how good he is at communicating his ideas to his players.

ihatetimthomas
05-15-2014, 08:46 PM
I agree with that. I do believe though that his connections with Phil are overrated, I mean, what other succesful coaches have come from Phil's tutelage? Cartwright would perhaps be the most succesful. Pretty underwhelming really.

And then you had Brian Shaw commenting not so long ago that it felt like the league did not appreciate Phil's legacy and that it was difficult for his former assistant coaches to mention the triangle and not get a look of disbelief from potential employers.

I doubt Phil's endorsement is the main reason why he became such a hot commodity, I don't deny he is most likely a great basketball mind though, let's see how good he is at communicating his ideas to his players.

I see your point, but not everyone is made to be a coach/leader. Shaw seems a bit reserved, maybe he isnt the leader many teams are looking for.

Another reason for Kerr could be opportunity. There is a bunch of teams going through coaching changes and there are not many qualified coaches out there. The ones with experience have had terrible track records as of late and taking on a coach with a great basketball pedigree and clean slate is very attractive nowadays. Many teams want younger coaches with less experience that they feel can be a great coach and connect better with players.

zass
05-15-2014, 08:48 PM
http://dimemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Steve-Kerr.png
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/836562/kerr.gif

Sarcastic
05-15-2014, 08:58 PM
He has played under 2 of the greatest coaches ever (Phil Jackson, Popovich). Has played on winning teams, cultures, systems and has the backing of Phil jackson. He is a smart NBA mind and understands what it takes to win as a team. That alone shows me how qualified he is.


I don't think people are questioning if he can coach or not. The question is why is he so hot, and why is he getting paid $5 million per year with 0 coaching experience. You can't just say "oh he played on 5 teams that won", otherwise Robert Horry should be a hot candidate as well, and demand $7 million per year.


Kerr was on nobody's radar until about a month ago, when Jackson said he wanted him. He was demanding $6 million per year from the Knicks. That's absolutely outrageous for a guy that has never coached a day in his life.

played0ut
05-15-2014, 09:08 PM
He has played under 2 of the greatest coaches ever (Phil Jackson, Popovich). Has played on winning teams, cultures, systems and has the backing of Phil jackson. He is a smart NBA mind and understands what it takes to win as a team. That alone shows me how qualified he is.

this.

but i'm unsure if he has the charisma to handle a team filled with young hotheads.

Well. we'll see.

ihatetimthomas
05-15-2014, 09:09 PM
I don't think people are questioning if he can coach or not. The question is why is he so hot, and why is he getting paid $5 million per year with 0 coaching experience. You can't just say "oh he played on 5 teams that won", otherwise Robert Horry should be a hot candidate as well, and demand $7 million per year.


Kerr was on nobody's radar until about a month ago, when Jackson said he wanted him. He was demanding $6 million per year from the Knicks. That's absolutely outrageous for a guy that has never coached a day in his life.

If Horry was a coaching caliber guy, he would have been coaching by now. Not every one is made to be a coach. Kerr seems well spoken, has a great NBA mind, and his resume is great. He is well respected around the NBA.

Possibly the biggest reason is in a post I made above. Opportunity. Perfect time right now for him to be available.

NumberSix
05-15-2014, 09:12 PM
He was a good GM and everybody within the NBA knows he would have put together a dynasty if it wasn't for dumbass D'Antoni threatening to leave if Kerr brought in Tom Thibodeau as a defensive assistant.

Ca$H
05-15-2014, 09:13 PM
Kerr has a great basketball mind? Wasn't he responsible for trading Marion for Shaq. What a great fit Shaq was on the suns. He put up a good numbers but made that team worse.

gts
05-15-2014, 09:20 PM
He has played under 2 of the greatest coaches ever (Phil Jackson, Popovich). Has played on winning teams, cultures, systems and has the backing of Phil jackson. He is a smart NBA mind and understands what it takes to win as a team. That alone shows me how qualified he is.

This

He's a basketball mind... old school in that way. Like a Bill Sharman

I'm sure some of his cache comes from his time in the Phoenix front office, teams dealt with him there, got to know him, know his resume as a player and figure it's worth a chance.. he's been pretty darn successful in every other basketball related endeavor

ILLsmak
05-15-2014, 09:26 PM
Yeah well, not everyone works out right? I dont ever remember there being a high demand for Rambis. Clearly, Kerr is well respected around the league. And his resume says he is a gamble worth taking on. But I could also say Kerr has played in multiple winning teams, and they are completely different systems. That gives him a more diverse knowledge.

Did Rambis ever do any color commentary? It's funny that people are biased against commentators, but the fact is that they get to watch a lot of basketball and they are held to a pretty high standard. the ones that are top tier, at least.

That's why it's funny when people would say lawl what does Marv Albert know about basketball. It's like well... probably a lot. He may not be a bball genius coach type, but he knows his shit. Kerr seems like he could coach, and I personally didn't like Kerr as a player. I do like him off the court, though, he's got a sense of humor and he seems to observe well.

I am v surprised that GSW got Kerr, though, I guess if Kerr wanted to do his own thang, he did it right. He kind of made a power move if you think about it lol, so I mean... you can't really doubt him yet.

I think he was pretty sound as a GM, too, but it was just a bad time. Can't really act like Kerr hasn't been doing shit for a long time.

-Smak

Sarcastic
05-15-2014, 11:41 PM
If Horry was a coaching caliber guy, he would have been coaching by now. Not every one is made to be a coach. Kerr seems well spoken, has a great NBA mind, and his resume is great. He is well respected around the NBA.

Possibly the biggest reason is in a post I made above. Opportunity. Perfect time right now for him to be available.


Being well spoken and having a "great NBA mind" (whatever that means), doesn't mean that you will be a successful NBA coach. And it certainly doesn't warrant demanding $6 million per year, when you have 0 experience.


Coach Nick from BBall Breakdown seems to have a great mind for basketball, and it well spoken. He has more coaching experience than Kerr as well. Do you think someone should throw $5 million at him to coach in the NBA?

RIP CITY
05-16-2014, 12:12 AM
I don't think people are surprised he was a candidate, we're just surprised that he was such a hot candidate and ended up getting paid like he's already a proven winner. He wasn't a good GM, he's an average at best analysts, he has no experience. Just doesn't make sense for him to be this hot of a commodity and to get paid like he did. I understand that he's been Coached by arguably the two best Coaches of All-Time so the Warriors and Knicks are hoping that rubbed off on him but making him one of the higher paid Coaches in the League? Just seems off.

Personally I think he'll do an OK job in some respects, I think he's a decent fit for what Golden State already does well. If you listen to him call games he's always commenting on pushing the ball so the opposing team can't set up their defense, so I expect him to run an uptempo, ball movement offense. I just don't think he has a strong enough demeanor to really command a team and I'd be worried about his uptempo philosophy and his ability to coach defense and toughness.

We'll see how it goes, I understand why he got hired, I'm just surprised he was so coveted. Based on what I know about him he's not going to be the type of Coach I prefer but it should work out OK with what the Warriors have now. But I think if they are going to become contenders they need to improve their defense, toughness and interior play, which are exactly what my biggest concerns would be about Kerr as a Coaching candidate going in. We'll see if he proves me wrong.

gts
05-16-2014, 12:34 AM
Did Rambis ever do any color commentary? not a lot before he took the Minnesota job... maybe some one off stuff

You know who did Pat Riley... he seemed to turn out ok

OmniStrife
05-16-2014, 01:12 AM
They're hoping he's the next

http://www.arizonasports.com/emedia/apimage/3af29f1f-1b38-4527-aa35-8c9558f965b3.jpg

CHi1PriDe
05-16-2014, 01:22 AM
I think Kerr will eventually be a successful coach, he did play under pop and pjax. It's always butt hurt knicks fans talking, esp when pjax gets paid 12 mil a year with no experience also :facepalm

Sarcastic
05-16-2014, 01:25 AM
To put in perspective, Popavich makes $6 million per year. Kerr was asking the Knicks for $6 million per year, and got $5 million from the Warriors.

He had better turn into a fantastic coach to demand what Popavich is getting.


Edit: Tom Thibadeau makes $4.375m
http://www.otherleague.com/contracts/nba-head-coach-contracts-salaries/

CHi1PriDe
05-16-2014, 01:54 AM
To put in perspective, Popavich makes $6 million per year. Kerr was asking the Knicks for $6 million per year, and got $5 million from the Warriors.

He had better turn into a fantastic coach to demand what Popavich is getting.


Edit: Tom Thibadeau makes $4.375m
http://www.otherleague.com/contracts/nba-head-coach-contracts-salaries/

PJax better recruit some better coaches since he gets paid double of what Pop makes. Btw, avg salary of a team president is 1.4mil :no:

PJax makes $12m per year for 5 years = 60mil commitment
Wtf is he gonna do with all that money :wtf:

Chill_Hustle
05-16-2014, 01:57 AM
Beats the **** out of me. :confusedshrug: