Chris Paul has still never made it to the conference finals.

[Purch]

But you know he's one of the top 5 greatest point guards above Nash, Kidd, Isiah, Stockton and Payton right?

:roll:

"Insert excuse about how his team wasn't good enough, Doc isnt a good enough coach .. Ect...."

[Kiddlovesnets]

Hes not above Isiah nor Stockton, but hes clearly above Kidd, Payton, and Nash.

[TylerOO]

Cliff*

[moe94]

Let's judge individuals by team accomplishments.

[Al Thornton]

kevin durant and russell westbrook have also never won a championship

while given the most help from the refs of any team in nba history.

u realize that whether u lose in the first round or finals u still lose right? did no one explain that to u?

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Let's judge individuals by team accomplishments.

So you don't account for championships when evaluating a player's career?

[TylerOO]

Come man give him a break. Having an all-star and arguably the best PF in the league, the sixth man of the year, one of the most improved players in the game in DeAndre, AND a deep ass bench isn't enough help for Cliff. He needs more help!

[ClutchOver9000]

Let's judge individuals by team accomplishments.

That seems to be the deal when it comes to Melo.

[ImKobe]

Chris and the Clippers fit eachother well, neither have been to the Conference Finals.

[beastee]

It is official. Parker, westbrook, curry and wall are all better. Put CP3 5th. Pathetic on such a stacked team with a top 3 coach.

[Purch]

:roll:
Come man give him a break. Having an all-star and arguably the best PF in the league, the sixth man of the year, one of the most improved players in the game in DeAndre, AND a deep ass bench isn't enough help for Cliff. He needs more help!
:roll: :roll:

[Legends66NBA7]

So you don't account for championships when evaluating a player's career?

You take into account the individual production of each of those championships for said individual player.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Hes not above Isiah nor Stockton, but hes clearly above Kidd, Payton, and Nash.

He's only above those players if you're a PER stat dork.

[Thechosen1]

chris paul is not even a top 20 point guard

[TylerOO]

He's only above those players if you're a PER stat dork.

:roll: :applause:

[JimmyMcAdocious]

You take into account the individual production of each of those championships for said individual player.

Well if I see someone use 11 rings for Russell one more time, I'm going to throw red paint on them. Post them stats. And the stats of his teammates for context.

[toooo]

Let's judge individuals by team accomplishments.

This.

Tim Hardaway
Chris Webber
Mutumbo
Ewing
Dom Wilkins
Iverson
Reggie Miller
Barkley
Stockton
Karl Malone
Baylor

[NBAplayoffs2001]

Hes not above Isiah nor Stockton, but hes clearly above Kidd, Payton, and Nash.

:rant Yeah because turning around the worst team in the league to taking them the following two years to the NBA finals is something that Chris Paul can do with his eyes closed.

Payton- at least he made a finals, something chris paul hasn't even come close to accomplishing

Nash- well I will give you that, I always felt Kidd was better than Nash. Nash had such a stacked Suns team and could never reach the finals and who can't forget "whoever offense on Nash." Nash was a horrible defender and Chris Paul is better IMO, similar players but chris paul has better defensive instincts.

[Killbot]

State Farm wasn't there for Chris Paul

[KingLeBronJames]

Hes not above Isiah nor Stockton, but hes clearly above Kidd, Payton, and Nash.
Steve Nash 2 time NBA MVP went to the Conference Finals 3 times > Chris Paul

Jason Kidd NBA Champion, 3 time Conference Champion > Chris Paul

Gary Payton NBA Champion, 2 time Conference Champion > Chris Paul

[backb0ard]

If CP retires today, will it be safe to say that he's the biggest superstar ever to not get out of the 2nd round?

Everyone in the top 10 or 15 ringless nba players have gone to the finals or at least conference finals.

[moe94]

If CP retires today, will it be safe to say that he's the biggest superstar ever to not get out of the 2nd round?

Are we counting T-Mac?

[k0kakw0rld]

Hes not above Isiah nor Stockton, but hes clearly above Kidd, Payton, and Nash.
You should be ashamed to even rep this name of yours. Kidd was a triple double threat every night in his prime. He is better than Cliff Paul at every aspect of the game.

[Thechosen1]

If CP retires today, will it be safe to say that he's the biggest superstar ever to not get out of the 2nd round?

chris paul is not even and all star...hes a glorified role player and has been his whole career he just wont win shit period

[backb0ard]

Are we counting T-Mac?
T-Mac got to the finals :roll: :roll:

[k0kakw0rld]

Hes not above Isiah nor Stockton, but hes clearly above Kidd, Payton, and Nash.
You should be ashamed to even rep this name of yours. Kidd was a triple double threat every night in his prime. He is better than Cliff Paul at every aspect of the game.

[VIntageNOvel]

too bad stern vetoed the only chance he had

[KingLeBronJames]

chris paul is not even and all star...hes a glorified role player and has been his whole career he just wont win shit period
I wouldn't say that now. He's an All-Star. He's just NOT the man or a superstar. He's a 2nd option player. He's a bonafide sidekick like Scottie Pippen.

[GoSpursGo1984]

Chris Paul top 5 pg ever yeah right probably not even top 10

[CJ Mustard]

:oldlol: @ Yung D-Will talking shit

Paul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D-Will.

That's not saying much since Curry, Westbrook, Paul, Parker, Wall, Lillard, Irving, Rondo, Dragic, Lowry, Ellis, Thomas, MCW, Teague, Holiday >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D-Will.

That's 15 starting PG's off the top of my head that are better than your favorite player.

[CJ Mustard]

too bad stern vetoed the only chance he had
:oldlol: Chris Paul probably thanks the stars every day that the deal got vetoed and he didn't have to play with a broken down Kobe & a mediocre Lakers team.

[Adam Silver]

too bad stern vetoed the only chance he had

Stern had no idea what he was doing, but I know how to run this league. If the owners are distracted enough, I'll utilize my slight-of-hand abilities during the lottery and the Lakers should be rolling again soon.

[[GR]]

:oldlol: Chris Paul probably thanks the stars every day that the deal got vetoed and he didn't have to play with a broken down Kobe & a mediocre Lakers team.
what's the difference? He aint sniffing a Conference Final either way:hammertime:

[Purch]

:oldlol: @ Yung D-Will talking shit

Paul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D-Will.

That's not saying much since Curry, Westbrook, Paul, Parker, Wall, Lillard, Irving, Rondo, Dragic, Lowry, Ellis, Thomas, MCW, Teague, Holiday >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> D-Will.

That's 15 starting PG's off the top of my head that are better than your favorite player.
I know theyre better than D-will. He hasn't been my favorite player for 3 years lol, so you're kinda late on this one

[leMVP]

T-mac also never reached CF.

[Purch]

T-mac also never reached CF.
he was in the finals last year lol, just saying

[moe94]

T-Mac got to the finals :roll: :roll:

Riding the bench to a Finals long after your prime means absolutely nothing.