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Kidbasketball20
05-16-2014, 03:02 PM
No.


4 consecutive NBA finals appearances, even with a deteriorating Wade, I sense LeBron will stay. Bosh is another story.

beastee
05-16-2014, 03:06 PM
No.


4 consecutive NBA finals appearances, even with a deteriorating Wade, I sense LeBron will stay. Bosh is another story.

Realistically, this is Wade's last full season of star quality. Next few years will see continued decline (plus Lebron probably is sick of the off every third game garbage)

Bosh is gone for sure. Mav's have money and will want him home and I bet he bites. Or Lakers may flash some cash as well. He will never be a number 1 guy, but given a new situation he can be a solid #2 with more touches.

All the role players on the Heat are old as hell. Gonna be tough to get younger and keep payroll in check.

The only logical thing for Bron to do is meet with Pat Riley and get on the same page. If he can't satisfy a better roster to James, why would he stay, especially if they lose the Finals?

COnDEMnED
05-16-2014, 03:10 PM
No.


4 consecutive NBA finals appearances, even with a deteriorating Wade, I sense LeBron will stay. Bosh is another story.
I don't get to see too many Heat games during the regular season, how rapidly is Wade declining? If Lebron wants to continue to win, he may have to take Wades deterioration into consideration. It's been nice for the Heat, but the window might be closing. If he was smart, he should probably try to follow Bosh somewhere to team up with a more youthful superstar to replace Wade. I don't know if such a team with cap space exists.

Fudge
05-16-2014, 03:11 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if he leaves.

Dude will team up with the next best available duo.

DaSeba5
05-16-2014, 03:12 PM
I highly doubt it.

Solefade
05-16-2014, 03:14 PM
no chance he leaves miami

r15mohd
05-16-2014, 03:22 PM
Lebron isn't going anywhere and neither is Bosh...Wade will be forced to restructure as to help the team and retire a Miami Heat.

Chalmers is gone, unless he takes a cut.

Ray Allen will be signed for another 1-2yr deal. Anderson is on the books, so is Cole. They'll resign JJones, as well.

Lewis, Battier, Douglas, Beasley and Oden will all be gone. I do see them resiging Oden and Beasley for chump change tho.

Expect Miami to do some serious vet recruiting and revamping this off-season. They're a proven team, many functional players want a shot at that elusive first championship ring... Miami will be their 2014-15 home.

Cocaine80s
05-16-2014, 03:26 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if he leaves.

Dude will team up with the next best available duo.
yes, he'll team up with kd and westbrook in phoenix :cheers:

AnaheimLakers24
05-16-2014, 03:29 PM
he will stay unless he can stack a team that covers all his flaws

TheMagicMan
05-16-2014, 03:30 PM
Nope. Not as long as Riley is there.

Fudge
05-16-2014, 03:32 PM
yes, he'll team up with kd and westbrook in phoenix :cheers:
Funny thing is, is that he actually would. :lol

DonDadda59
05-16-2014, 03:34 PM
Never underestimate the heart of a front-running coward.

inclinerator
05-16-2014, 03:41 PM
he's going back to cleveland to fulfill his promise

jzek
05-16-2014, 05:07 PM
It all depends on Wade. If he continues to be a scrub and LBJ loses out on a title because of him then LBJ will look for a more dependable partner.

jzek
05-16-2014, 05:08 PM
he's going back to cleveland to fulfill his promise

Actually a better option. Irving is younger and better than Wade.

InfiniteBaskets
05-16-2014, 05:14 PM
Lebron isn't going anywhere and neither is Bosh...Wade will be forced to restructure as to help the team and retire a Miami Heat.

Chalmers is gone, unless he takes a cut.

Ray Allen will be signed for another 1-2yr deal. Anderson is on the books, so is Cole. They'll resign JJones, as well.

Lewis, Battier, Douglas, Beasley and Oden will all be gone. I do see them resiging Oden and Beasley for chump change tho.

Expect Miami to do some serious vet recruiting and revamping this off-season. They're a proven team, many functional players want a shot at that elusive first championship ring... Miami will be their 2014-15 home.

Agree with most of what you said. But would not be surprised if Allen wanted to retire this season if Heat win a ring.

Also, I thought Chalmers might leave as well, but looking at all other NBA teams, I really don't see any teams with cash trying to upgrade at the PG spot. I'd say most teams in the NBA have a PG at Chalmers' level or higher. Only a handful of teams I can think of like the Knicks, Rockets, Pacers... that can actually use an upgrade. But can Chalmers provide a meaningful upgrade at a considerably higher price than what Miami would pay him?

Nuff Said
05-16-2014, 05:24 PM
Funny thing is, is that he actually would. :lol
LeBron will never go to the west. The east is the best place for him to win.

SilkkTheShocker
05-16-2014, 05:33 PM
He isn't leaving.

Real14
05-16-2014, 05:35 PM
We are discussing Lebron James here. A known quitter. Think about it. Have some damn common sense.

Springsteen
05-16-2014, 05:40 PM
If you think about it, Lebron going back to Leaveland would be the best option both legacy-wise, and financially.

He'd be the center of a young team (instead of relying on a core older players/scrubs) whose players would continue to develop (Dion, Thompson, Bennett (lol)), Irving has proven that he could fit into a Wade-like role, and bringing Lebron in puts less pressure, or none at all for him to run the offense and score naturally through it. Plus Cleveland is structuring itself to land a big-free agent (lol), so that also solves the problem of Lebron not getting a big contract which he has been hinting towards, right near his hometown. To top it off, he'd be theoretically not turning his back on the city in the end and if he made it to the finals/won one with the team he'd be hailed as a hero/good guy both by Cavs fans and history-wise.

Expect him to opt-in though, before any of this plays out or even happens.

wakencdukest
05-16-2014, 06:01 PM
We'll know when the time comes because there will be a meeting with his future teammates.

Vancouver-Grizz
05-16-2014, 06:06 PM
He will not leave Miami. Wade and Bosh will be gone at some point and they will build around LeBron. Pat Riley is pretty tight with LeBron and knows how to share his vision with him as LeBron is probably Riley's biggest supporter. Lebron/Riley = Duncan/Pop except more Hollywood.

NumberSix
05-16-2014, 06:07 PM
Yes. He's going to Indiana on Sunday.

Sarcastic
05-16-2014, 06:13 PM
He'll leave as soon as he thinks he has a better chance to win somewhere else.

hawksdogsbraves
05-16-2014, 07:09 PM
I think he'll stay but man, Wade better be smart enough to realize he needs to take a discount. His body is falling apart on him.

The Heat would honestly probably be better off if Bosh left, he gets paid too much for what he provides, but I think he'll stay too. He'd much rather be the third wheel on a good team than the first wheel on a bad one. He's kind of a bitch like that.

Anyway the Heat have the ultimate advantage of getting whatever vets they want on cheap deals, I'm sure Riley will bring in a big body or two to clog the paint and another couple ring chasers who can make an impact.

Vancouver-Grizz
05-16-2014, 08:19 PM
The Heat would honestly probably be better off if Bosh left, he gets paid too much for what he provides, but I think he'll stay too. He'd much rather be the third wheel on a good team than the first wheel on a bad one. He's kind of a bitch like that.


Trade him to Detroit for Greg Monroe.

Bosh/Drummond/J.smith would be killer and Heat will finally get a solid big.

SwishSquared
05-17-2014, 01:53 AM
I think, right now, he is most likely to stay in Miami long term. If something awful happens in these playoffs, maybe that changes. I do think the Big 3 will all re-do their contracts to give Riley flexibility in retooling the supporting cast. I don't expect Lewis, Battier (likely retiring), Oden, or Beasely returning. Only if they strike out in FA, would they bring back GO & Beasely. Heat would bring back Allen at the minimum if he wants, though he might hang it up. They have both of their draft picks this year and a potential solid rotation piece in James Ennis stashed overseas that should be on the roster next season. They should be fine.

J Shuttlesworth
05-17-2014, 01:55 AM
Maybe Wade will be willing to take a pay cut since he knows his prime is far gone. We should sign Gortat

Threethrows
05-17-2014, 02:40 AM
He's going to head West, like to Portland or OKC.

That way if Cleveland ever gets back to the finals he can sweep them and win a championship in Cleveland just like he said he would. :cheers:

GimmeThat
05-17-2014, 03:19 AM
If he decides to mix business with business, instead of just business with pleasure.


perhaps.

Springsteen
05-17-2014, 03:28 AM
That way if Cleveland ever gets back to the finals he can sweep them and win a championship in Cleveland just like he said he would. :cheers:

:roll: :roll: :applause: :roll: :roll:

SillyRabbit
05-17-2014, 04:06 AM
LeBron will never leave the Eastern Conference. Guaranteed.

Sharmer
05-17-2014, 09:00 AM
Lebron wins his third ring and stays.

KBaller33
05-17-2014, 09:42 AM
He needs to stay. I don't like him jumping around back and forth because his team isn't good enough. He should trust Riley.

NZStreetBaller
05-17-2014, 09:48 AM
Lebron being in cleveland makes him alot more likeable IMO. I dont hate lebron for anything other then the fact he chased all stars to get some easy rings.........

Heat Lebron = Cocky weak minded jerkoff who wants the easiest road to the title.

Cavs Lebron = humble loyal beast of a player carrying a scrub team to the title

If he goes to the cavs it basically gives his chips (if he ever get ones there) alot more credibility

elementally morale
05-17-2014, 10:04 AM
I don't want him leaving Miami. Changing teams once with a plyer of this caliber is fine, but becoming a journeyman like aging Shaq is not something I'd like to see. He chose Miami, became successful there, he should stay put and stick with "the decision". He took his talents to South Beach... so be it, Jedi.

secund2nun
05-17-2014, 10:29 AM
It depends if they win the title and if Bosh/Wade are willing to opt out and take a paycut...or if Bosh will just opt out and leave which is better for Miami because he is not worth 20 million a year. If Bosh opted out and left and Wade opted out and signed a 10 million per year contract Miami would have so much cap room.

Marlo_Stanfield
05-17-2014, 10:37 AM
Funny thing is, is that Dubeta actually would. :lol
fixed

Marlo_Stanfield
05-17-2014, 10:39 AM
He'll leave as soon as he thinks he has a better chance to win somewhere else.
to bad he wont ever come to the knicks doe:roll: :roll: :roll:

VengefulAngel
05-17-2014, 10:47 AM
Lebron being in cleveland makes him alot more likeable IMO. I dont hate lebron for anything other then the fact he chased all stars to get some easy rings.........

Heat Lebron = Cocky weak minded jerkoff who wants the easiest road to the title.

Cavs Lebron = humble loyal beast of a player carrying a scrub team to the title

If he goes to the cavs it basically gives his chips (if he ever get ones there) alot more credibility

We should note that this is the perception not reality.

Plus this guy seems mad.

HiphopRelated
05-17-2014, 11:07 AM
It depends if they win the title and if Bosh/Wade are willing to opt out and take a paycut...or if Bosh will just opt out and leave which is better for Miami because he is not worth 20 million a year. If Bosh opted out and left and Wade opted out and signed a 10 million per year contract Miami would have so much cap room.
Wade will take less, but not damn 10 million a year.

Dresta
05-17-2014, 11:40 AM
I think, right now, he is most likely to stay in Miami long term. If something awful happens in these playoffs, maybe that changes. I do think the Big 3 will all re-do their contracts to give Riley flexibility in retooling the supporting cast. I don't expect Lewis, Battier (likely retiring), Oden, or Beasely returning. Only if they strike out in FA, would they bring back GO & Beasely. Heat would bring back Allen at the minimum if he wants, though he might hang it up. They have both of their draft picks this year and a potential solid rotation piece in James Ennis stashed overseas that should be on the roster next season. They should be fine.
They will bring them both back on min deals because why wouldn't they? These guys are already integrated and you won't be getting anything better for min deals anyway.

And why are people acting like Wade is done exactly? He's still been the 2nd best/most important player on a team 8-1 in the playoffs, an allstar who is still putting up solid and efficient 2nd option numbers. I don't see how he's 'done': they have him on a maintenance program, and it seems to be working pretty well.

Heatles201
05-17-2014, 11:43 AM
Actually a better option. Irving is younger and better than Wade.

Irving has been injury prone. But give me this Wade over Irving any day of the week his defense is really atrocious

secund2nun
05-17-2014, 11:47 AM
Wade will take less, but not damn 10 million a year.

You never know. He has 2 years 42 million left on his contract. If he opts in for the remaining 2 years he will be 34 by the time his contract ends...and let's be real who knows if he will even be able to play at the age of 34 and if he can he might be worth nothing more than a few million a year. It seems like Wade ages in dog years. 1 season is 7 seasons for him. He is 32, but in reality he is 40. He will be lucky to earn 8 million dollars after the age of 34. If he opts out he can sign a 5 year 50 million dollar deal or even a 5 year 55 million dollar deal which will ultimately earn him more money than 42 million and help Miami out. Miami is done if Wade is sucking up 15 million a year and Bosh 20 million a year. Neither are worth that much.

SilkkTheShocker
05-17-2014, 12:53 PM
I don't see any of them leaving Miami. But they're going to have to take pay cuts if they want to do something with that bench. Wade nor Bosh are worth max money anymore.

FLDFSU
05-17-2014, 04:30 PM
Wade will take less, but not damn 10 million a year.

This. Why is it up to the players to take less money and not up to the billionaire owner to pay more in taxes.

If I am Wade, I would take maybe 2 million less. Mickey going to have to foot the bill.

aboss4real24
05-17-2014, 04:39 PM
Hes Gone

He'll Go To Houston

SwishSquared
05-18-2014, 01:57 AM
They will bring them both back on min deals because why wouldn't they? These guys are already integrated and you won't be getting anything better for min deals anyway.

And why are people acting like Wade is done exactly? He's still been the 2nd best/most important player on a team 8-1 in the playoffs, an allstar who is still putting up solid and efficient 2nd option numbers. I don't see how he's 'done': they have him on a maintenance program, and it seems to be working pretty well.
My point was that they'll look elsewhere for ring-chasing vets or intriguing young guys first before re-signing those two. Plus, Oden will decide if his body can take another year.

Regarding Wade- the maintenance program has seemingly kept him fresher for these playoffs, which is great and should continue to be the plan going forward (maybe they can give LBJ a night off every once in a while next season too, if he stays). But guys that require 20-25 games off during the regular season and don't have "it" for a couple games during the playoffs shouldn't make ~$20M/yr. When he's on, the Heat are darn-near unbeatable in the playoffs.

I think all three are staying, especially if they three-peat. They'd have a legit shot to four-peat next year, and stars don't give up that chance. I do see Wade potentially taking a drastic pay cut. Riley might offer $44M/4 years, with opt-outs after second and third seasons. I could see Wade signing a 1 year, max-type contract after 2 seasons in this scenario as his "thank you" contract. So, he'd have slightly more money after 3 years than his current deal would provide in next 2 years. I think Wade would do that, especially b/c the more rings he collects, the more $$$ he makes overseas. Wade at 35 might not be starting caliber anymore and I think this could be a win-win.