The 10 Best players in the NBA after Jordan Retirement

[robert_shaww]

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[robert_shaww]

Where's Wade?

10

[T_L_P]

Having Shaq and Kobe at 1 and 2 sort of defeats itself.

I mean, they won 5 and 4 rings respectively whilst Duncan won 4 without another top 10 player.

Also, if we just use the years post-Jordan, Shaq has absolutely no case over Duncan.

[Smook A.]

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Shaquille O'Neal
3. Tim Duncan
4. LeBron James
5. Kevin Garnett
6. Dwyane Wade
7. Dirk Nowitzki
8. Jason Kidd
9. Steve Nash
10. Paul Pierce

HM: Allen Iverson

Kevin Durant doesn't deserved to be mentioned YET, imo.

[robert_shaww]

Having Shaq and Kobe at 1 and 2 sort of defeats itself.

I mean, they won 5 and 4 rings respectively whilst Duncan won 4 without another top 10 player.

Also, if we just use the years post-Jordan, Shaq has absolutely no case over Duncan.

ok..now i need to bring up shaq stats...god...

[r0drig0lac]

1- duncan
2- shaq
3- lebron
4- the rest

[robert_shaww]

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Shaquille O'Neal
3. Tim Duncan
4. LeBron James
5. Kevin Garnett
6. Dirk Nowitzki
7. Dwyane Wade
8. Jason Kidd
9. Steve Nash
10. Paul Pierce

HM: Allen Iverson

Kevin Durant doesn't deserved to be mentioned YET, imo.

durant is a beast, probably top 5. dont care about the rings...

[T_L_P]

ok..now i need to bring up shaq stats...god...

I'll do it for you:

Shaq from 99-11: 23.4 / 11.8 / 2.4 / 0.5 / 2.2

Duncan from 99-14: 21.6 / 11.9 / 3.2 / 0.7 / 2.4

And this is Duncan playing 54 more games.

[Solefade]

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Shaquille O'Neal
3. Tim Duncan
4. LeBron James
5. Kevin Garnett
6. Dwyane Wade
7. Dirk Nowitzki
8. Jason Kidd
9. Steve Nash
10. Paul Pierce

HM: Allen Iverson

Kevin Durant doesn't deserved to be mentioned YET, imo.

good list but i would replace paul pierce with AI, move j.kidd to #10 and AI to #7ish

[NumberSix]

Bron
Shaq
Duncan
Wade
Dirk
Garnett
Kobe
Pierce
Nash
Durant

[QuebecBaller]

Iverson deserve to be in the top 10

and no T-Mac?

[raprap]

Shaq
Duncan
Kobe
LeBron
-----
Who the hell cares

[Lebronxrings]

Bron
Shaq
Duncan
Wade
Dirk
Garnett
Kobe
Pierce
Nash
Durant
this basically

[Ancient Legend]

Since 1998, first Jordan retirment:

1-Shaq (3 FMVPs)
2-Duncan (3 FMVPs)
3-LeBron (but he moves to #1 if he wins this year).
4-Kobe
5-Garnett
6-Dirk
7-Wade
8-Nash
9-Durant
10-Too many tied here.

[Yankstar]

this basically
Not baised at all :facepalm
Kobe outside top 5 and bran at 1:rolleyes:

[BoutPractice]

Up until now
Duncan
Shaq
LeBron
Kobe
-
Dirk
Garnett
Wade
are almost surefire top 30 players who made most of their damage post-Jordan. I put them in that order at this stage, but LeBron is going up and Shaq going down because he's already retired (and if you want to be precise, you'd only be looking at his body of work post 1998). Duncan keeps going up and Kobe might conceivably still go up if he can put together another strong year or two. After those it gets more complicated. Kidd, Nash, Durant (the one guy you can pretty much tell is going to shoot all the way up those lists eventually), Iverson, Pierce, Dwight, CP3, TMac, Ray Allen, Tony Parker, Melo, Vince, all deserve a spot in the top 100, but the order is very debatable...

[T_L_P]

Up until now
Duncan
Shaq
LeBron
Kobe
-
Dirk
Garnett
Wade
are almost surefire top 30 players who made most of their damage post-Jordan. I put them in that order at this stage, but LeBron is going up and Shaq going down because he's already retired (and if you want to be precise, you'd only be looking at his body of work post 1998). Duncan keeps going up and Kobe might conceivably still go up if he can put together another strong year or two. After those it gets more complicated. Kidd, Nash, Durant (the one guy you can pretty much tell is going to shoot all the way up those lists eventually), Iverson, Pierce, Dwight, CP3, TMac, Ray Allen, Tony Parker, Melo, Vince, all deserve a spot in the top 100, but the order is very debatable...


I agree. I have no problem if someone puts Shaq above TD on the all time list, but if we're strictly talking '98 onwards, I don't think Shaq has a case. :confusedshrug:

[pauk]

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[L.Kizzle]

Jordan retired three times ...
:biggums:

[SexSymbol]

1. Kobe
2. Duncan (very close)
3. Shaq
4. LeBron
5. Dirk
6. Wade
7. KG
8. Iverson
9. Nash
10. Jason Kidd/ Paul Pierce

[pastis]

1. shaq
2. lebron
3. iverson
4. dirk
5. wade
6. duncan (too much help, super stacked team, without popovic, ginobii, parker at best top 30 all time, easy baskets, overrated def, proven fact like water is wet)
7. kg
8. kobe
9. kidd
10. pierce

[T_L_P]

1. shaq
2. lebron
3. iverson
4. dirk
5. wade
6. duncan (too much help, super stacked team, without popovic, ginobii, parker at best top 30 all time, easy baskets, overrated def, proven fact like water is wet)
7. kg
8. kobe
9. kidd
10. pierce

Shaq: Penny, Kobe, Wade, LeBron, Nash, Garnett, Pierce, Allen -- Phil Jackson, Pat Riley.

He played with 5 in your top 10 :roll:

Also, you like to point out how Duncan shoots from 1-2 foot. Isn't that what Shaq did?

[bdreason]

Duncan

Shaq

Kobe

LeBron

Garnett

Dirk

Wade

Durant

Kidd

Howard

[CeilingFan#1]

Which retirement? This changes the list.

[miles berg]

1. Shaquille ONeal
2. Tim Duncan
3. LeBron James
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Kobe Bryant
6. Kevin Garnett
7. Dwyane Wade
8. Kevin Durant
8. Jason Kidd
9. CP3
10. Steve Nash

[MiseryCityTexas]

Pathetic that most of Paul Pierce's prime years were wasted on a bunch of shitty Celtics teams until he won it all in 08.

[jstern]

I would go
1. Lebron
2. Duncan
3. Shaq (Too many years in the 90s)
4. Kobe

The rest.

[dubeta]

[QUOTE=pauk]1

[KBaller33]

Are we talking about after 1998 or after 2003?

[coolhandsteve]

1A. Bryant
1B. Duncan
3. James
4. Shaq
5. Nowitzki
6. Garnett
7. Wade
8. Durant
9. Iverson
10. Nash

[Kvnzhangyay]

Not baised at all :facepalm
Kobe outside top 5 and bran at 1:rolleyes:

Its his opinion tho

[INDI]

[QUOTE=robert_shaww]1

[elementally morale]

We should wait another 10 years before answering this question. At least, I will.

[Milbuck]

I'm basing my list on the Spurs winning it all this year.

1) Tim Duncan
2) Kobe Bryant
3) Lebron James
4) Shaquille O'Neal

Then everyone else.

[elementally morale]

To the casual fan (in the public eye) Shaq, Garnett and Duncan will sink lower and lower as time passes. Kobe will definitely rise compared to his present perception. I don't know about LeBron though.