Godzilla sucks ass and so is your face

[IamRAMBO24]

Horrible movie.

[step_back]

What were you expecting? Citizen Kane?

It's pretty obvious what you're going to be watching. I'm a huge film fan and I enjoyed it. Great action, CGI and sound effects.

Oscar film it is not. Entertainment it is.

P.S My face is lovely.

[Derka]

brb, expecting The Grapes of Wrath from a movie about a lizard fighting a bug.

[Milbuck]

Oh look, a contrarian. What a badass.

[dr.hee]

brb, expecting The Grapes of Wrath from a movie about a lizard fighting a bug.

:oldlol:

Damn, Rambo is so edgy. But he's right in a way. Watching Pacers vs. Heat right now, and this sucks ass. Horrible game. 10 men throwing a ball into a basket? Are you kidding me? Was it advertised like that? Expected way more.

[Verticality]

Horrible movie.

Insightful. What did you think of the ending when the babies are roaming around Madison Square Garden?

[IamRAMBO24]

Why are you guys defending this pacific rim reject?

[ThePhantomCreep]

What were you expecting? Citizen Kane?

It's pretty obvious what you're going to be watching. I'm a huge film fan and I enjoyed it. Great action, CGI and sound effects.

Oscar film it is not. Entertainment it is.

P.S My face is lovely.

Citizen Kane? I'll settle for a Godzilla movie with Godzilla in it.

[ThatCoolKid]

Citizen Kane? I'll settle for a Godzilla movie with Godzilla in it.

It's called pacing, loser.

[Kblaze8855]

People really have to stop going to action movies and complaining about them being action movies.

And perhaps worse...going to action movies and complaining about not enough action.

Filmmakers cant win. Try to make a real movie that isnt just 90 minutes of monsters kicking over buildings people demand more monsters kicking over buildings. Make one with too much action, explosions, and monsters...wheres the plot? People compare it to power rangers.

They found a nice balance. I didnt think anything happened just as an excuse to show a monster going in on a city. It all had its place.

[IamRAMBO24]

People really have to stop going to action movies and complaining about them being action movies.

And perhaps worse...going to action movies and complaining about not enough action.

Filmmakers cant win. Try to make a real movie that isnt just 90 minutes of monsters kicking over buildings people demand more monsters kicking over buildings. Make one with too much action, explosions, and monsters...wheres the plot? People compare it to power rangers.

They found a nice balance. I didnt think anything happened just as an excuse to show a monster going in on a city. It all had its place.

Big CGI movies can have a great story with great characters behind it. I'm not asking for much. I don't expect to watch the Godfather with Godzilla or something. Give me a plot. Give me characters I will like for more than 2 seconds without killing him off at the beginning of the movie. The Godzilla good guy fights off evil flying reptile is a horrible angle. Why the f*ck are they even trying to kill him when he was going to save them? It's stupid. Just like the people who are backing this movie up.

[ThePhantomCreep]

It's called pacing, loser.

Someone on imdb counted Godzilla's total screentime.

7 minutes, 53 seconds. Just above cameo status. The Mutos not only got more screentime, the plot revolved around them.

That's not pacing, that's poor decision making. As bad as the 1998 version was, at least we got a story that revolved around the title character.

[Kblaze8855]

Think about what you just said.

You paid money to see a film about a mutated giant dinosaur god type creature fight some flying radiation eating monsters and called an element of the plot stupid. And then called people stupid for enjoying said movie.

You really dont see why id say dont go to an action movie if you dont want to see an action movie?

The people who liked godzilla knew going it it wouldnt make sense. Its about a 400 foot tall atomic breath shooting lizard.

If anyone is stupid is someone going to such a movie and complaining about things not making sense.

[Derka]

Someone on imdb counted Godzilla's total screentime.

And this is why the internet is sometimes a bad thing.

[IamRAMBO24]

Just want you guys to know I put my reputation on the line (god forbid if I was caught with a fat chick at the movies by friends, family, and worst, co workers) just to go see this flick. I could of been a laughing stock, but I said no, the movie is going to be awesome because ISH said so. ISH is as good as Stevie Wonder in recommending a movie. What I realize is there are way too many power rangers-fruity children in here. I'm sticking to rottentomatoes.

[gts]

Just want you guys to know I put my reputation on the line (god forbid if I was caught with a fat chick at the movies by friends, family, and worst, co workers) just to go see this flick. I could of been a laughing stock, but I said no, the movie is going to be awesome because ISH said so. ISH is as good as Stevie Wonder in recommending a movie. What I realize is there are way too many power rangers-fruity children in here. I'm sticking to rottentomatoes.

Rotten Tomatoes liked the movie :lol

[IamRAMBO24]

Rotten Tomatoes liked the movie :lol

Really? Well I'll be damn.

[~primetime~]

Someone on imdb counted Godzilla's total screentime.

7 minutes, 53 seconds. Just above cameo status. The Mutos not only got more screentime, the plot revolved around them.

That's not pacing, that's poor decision making. As bad as the 1998 version was, at least we got a story that revolved around the title character.
I find this very hard to believe actually. To me the fight scene at the end felt very long, like a third of the movie.

But regardless, if true that was an absolutely awesome 8 minutes lol

People want more zilla because what we got of him was enjoyable


http://37.media.tumblr.com/cd175c2fa3e28d9618004d0481659bdf/tumblr_n5qbfi2LEL1qgsgxro3_500.gif

[niko]

I saw it Friday night. It was fun. I can't imagine how much of a moron a person needs to be to think the "plot had holes". Yes it did because the entire premise is absolutely impossible and ridiculous. It's supposed to be a metaphor for nature and the atomic age (for OP who likes things to be more complex than they need to be so he can pretend he's smart). I just liked Godzilla ****ing that other thing up, and he did **** it up. I went in midtown to an Imax theater and it was a roar from the crowd like a team just won a game or something when he took care of business.

I loved how in tune with Godzilla everyone was. When his scales glowed, everyone knew what was happening and the buzz was huge.

How can people bring up the 1998 movie? That movie was awful and not entertaining. I don't care if it was 3 hours straight of godzilla, that movie was steaming shit that made me literally want to leave the theater.

[Meticode]

I saw it Friday night. It was fun. I can't imagine how much of a moron a person needs to be to think the "plot had holes". Yes it did because the entire premise is absolutely impossible and ridiculous. It's supposed to be a metaphor for nature and the atomic age (for OP who likes things to be more complex than they need to be so he can pretend he's smart). I just liked Godzilla ****ing that other thing up, and he did **** it up. I went in midtown to an Imax theater and it was a roar from the crowd like a team just won a game or something when he took care of business.

I loved how in tune with Godzilla everyone was. When his scales glowed, everyone knew what was happening and the buzz was huge.

How can people bring up the 1998 movie? That movie was awful and not entertaining. I don't care if it was 3 hours straight of godzilla, that movie was steaming shit that made me literally want to leave the theater.
I loved Godzilla 1998. Puff Daddy yo!

[niko]

I loved Godzilla 1998. Puff Daddy yo!
I hope you were puffing something

Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion unless it's that they liked Godzilla 1998 which is wrong. :no:

[Draz]

It was alright. I don't think I wasted my money on it.

[CelticBaller]

The movie was good

[oh the horror]

Do people not remember the Godzilla movies from the 60s?

Movies were like an hour and 20 minutes and it took 30-40 mins sometimes before the monsters showed up. And it was usually during the last 10-15 were there the big fight scenes.


I think people's attention spans are becoming jello with these newer action movies.

[Raymone]

Bryan Cranston overacts.

[Le Shaqtus]

Bryan Cranston overacts.

He was stellar actually.

[SpecialQue]

Not counting the original film, name five Godzilla films better than the new one, and give reasons.

[DonDadda59]

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[chazzy]

I thought it would be a little darker

[Draz]

Godzilla was really friendly. I figured he was happy

[Godzuki]

Do people not remember the Godzilla movies from the 60s?

Movies were like an hour and 20 minutes and it took 30-40 mins sometimes before the monsters showed up. And it was usually during the last 10-15 were there the big fight scenes.


I think people's attention spans are becoming jello with these newer action movies.


cmon y'all can't go blaming peoples attention spans when none of y'all can even defend any of the people build up stuff leading up to the monster fights. not one person here has even tried to defend the build up with any specifics, and i really doubt anyone can truly say any of that was entertaining in the least.

most of you probably don't even remember most of it because it was so easily forgetful. like what was the military son's name? what aspects did you guys find entertaining in that first half of the movie? i'd love to know.

considering thats like the first 3/4's of the movie you'd think theres a lot you guys could defend it with since i'd assume you were all so into it....

[Godzuki]

The dude's name was Tyler Hansbrough.


i thought he was C from the Bronx?

[KingBeasley08]

I'm torn about seeing this or not. I'm def seeing X-Men this Friday but I might hit Godzilla up the week after that (not watching malifacent :lol)

[Le Shaqtus]

cmon y'all can't go blaming peoples attention spans when none of y'all can even defend any of the people build up stuff leading up to the monster fights. not one person here has even tried to defend the build up with any specifics, and i really doubt anyone can truly say any of that was entertaining in the least.

most of you probably don't even remember most of it because it was so easily forgetful. like what was the military son's name? what aspects did you guys find entertaining in that first half of the movie? i'd love to know.

considering thats like the first 3/4's of the movie you'd think theres a lot you guys could defend it with since i'd assume you were all so into it....

The whole build up of the of the origins and the monsters was good, such as the the old plant being rebuilt to monitor the MUTO and how they tried to figure out it's biology. Especially in the beginning when they found out that one egg was missing (and the other egg escaped from Nevada and f*cked up Vegas)

All of Cranstons scenes were fantastic, especially when he goes on his tirades about how he knew there was "something" out there, not just a freak accident that destroyed the plant, and when him and his son (whose name is Ford by the way) were captured in the old city and he gave that big speech while trapped in the room.

The train scene was good, especially when Ford and the other guy were laying on the tracks and the MUTO's face was RIGHT there, then shit started getting f*cked up. Also the badass scenes with the Halo drop, Ford blowing up the eggs and the soldiers fighting off the MUTO's while trying to carry the bomb away from the city. Also the scene where Godzilla causes the tsunami (I think?) and shit gets f*cked up real quick.

I can add more but I can't be bothered.

Only scenes I didn't care for were the ones with Fords wife in the hospital crying to Ford on the phone.

Everyone's a critic, there are people who go to movies just to enjoy them and then people like you, Rambo and others who nitpick every thing and ruin the experience for everyone and themselves. The whole point of monsters movies is build up, I wouldn't have enjoyed it at all if the whole movie was just Godzilla, because seeing Godzilla is the reward. The anticipation and build up of actually seeing the monster we've all been waiting to see is the whole point of the movie.

You see him at the airport and roar FINALLY after all this talk and and half seen images and its everything you expect. But then he's gone and you're like "Aw f*ck I want more" then when the big fight comes it hits you all at once and it's exhilarating. That scene was long enough for me to be satisfied because it was so action packed in a short amount of time, you can't sustain that kind of excitement over a whole movie.

[Kblaze8855]

cmon y'all can't go blaming peoples attention spans when none of y'all can even defend any of the people build up stuff leading up to the monster fights. not one person here has even tried to defend the build up with any specifics, and i really doubt anyone can truly say any of that was entertaining in the least.

most of you probably don't even remember most of it because it was so easily forgetful. like what was the military son's name? what aspects did you guys find entertaining in that first half of the movie? i'd love to know.

considering thats like the first 3/4's of the movie you'd think theres a lot you guys could defend it with since i'd assume you were all so into it....

Attention spans are exactly the issue. If you are only entertained when a monster is stomping around you dont even want to see a good movie. You want to watch Rampage the Game with better CGI.

The whole movie was interesting with the exception of things that are never really interesting....like brief family time moments to setup what people have to live for and all.

But they play a role. Cranstons whole time in the plant...that whole situation. His son going to get him out and the conversation they had. Them sneaking back in. The drama as they realized what was happening and that he had data on it from years ago. Even the opening credits were well done. I found myself trying to catch what they had blacklisted next to peoples names.

You cant go into a movie like that and have monsters fighting it out after 10 minutes. It was never gonna be that. And it shouldnt be.

[Godzuki]

The whole build up of the of the origins and the monsters was good, such as the the old plant being rebuilt to monitor the MUTO and how they tried to figure out it's biology. Especially in the beginning when they found out that one egg was missing (and the other egg escaped from Nevada and f*cked up Vegas)

All of Cranstons scenes were fantastic, especially when he goes on his tirades about how he knew there was "something" out there, not just a freak accident that destroyed the plant, and when him and his son (whose name is Ford by the way) were captured in the old city and he gave that big speech while trapped in the room.

The train scene was good, especially when Ford and the other guy were laying on the tracks and the MUTO's face was RIGHT there, then shit started getting f*cked up. Also the badass scenes with the Halo drop, Ford blowing up the eggs and the soldiers fighting off the MUTO's while trying to carry the bomb away from the city. Also the scene where Godzilla causes the tsunami (I think?) and shit gets f*cked up real quick.

I can add more but I can't be bothered.

Only scenes I didn't care for were the ones with Fords wife in the hospital crying to Ford on the phone.

Everyone's a critic, there are people who go to movies just to enjoy them and then people like you, Rambo and others who nitpick every thing and ruin the experience for everyone and themselves. The whole point of monsters movies is build up, I wouldn't have enjoyed it at all if the whole movie was just Godzilla, because seeing Godzilla is the reward. The anticipation and build up of actually seeing the monster we've all been waiting to see is the whole point of the movie.

You see him at the airport and roar FINALLY after all this talk and and half seen images and its everything you expect. But then he's gone and you're like "Aw f*ck I want more" then when the big fight comes it hits you all at once and it's exhilarating. That scene was long enough for me to be satisfied because it was so action packed in a short amount of time, you can't sustain that kind of excitement over a whole movie.


All i can say is i disagree. I know the scenes you're talking about but i came away from them with a completely different view. I thought the whole jump to modern day from the radiation catastrophe that killed his wife was when it all started going downhill...when they started introducing his son and his wife, and their kid.

first off the research angle was non existent other than piggy backing off of Cranston's notes. that Japanese research guy and his assistant sucked. They knew next to nothing despite having decades to research these things. How they introduced those plants where they had them monitored was really retarded too since it was like "and oh yeah we have another one in Nevada...". they had such a Micky Mouse grasp on thinigs and these guys are supposed to be the government experts.

It was a joke to me how when he first gets to that plant is when the monster just so happens to be breaking loose. Its when they discover Cranston's notes about the vibrations being the same as before, and it all goes down exactly at the same time they're there, and his father dies. it was all out of the blue build up. In some movies they get tidbits of info thats interesting, and research for more tidbits of info, and then a breakthru....but this was all more or less trying to use Cranston's son to remember what Cranston knew which led to more or less nothing. so no real research angle happening...

it all became more or less tracking the monsters as they showed up. Getting to where they were going, pointlessly shooting at them, and trying to figure out how to stop them early on. The other side to this was introducing the son and his family. His and his wife's bond with their kid. The father was a soldier and the mom was a doctor, who seemingly worked hard raising a kid individually since the man seemed to be away a lot. They try to get the audience to care about him and his family to very little affect. Cmon don't even tell me you cared so much about them through those scenes....

like i mentioned before even the subway scene with the asian kid was as pointless as it gets. This is all wasted filler time, like him trying to get with that new unit because he's a missiles expert...just fukking go already dude. i don't need to watch a scene of him trying to get on a unit thats part of the team to nuke them. i don't need to see some asian kid who lost his parents because he got into the subway and the doors closed, and later finds them out of the blue. i mean so much happened in the first half of the movie that was either pointless, or was such a lame attempt at making the main characters endearing that i don't know how any of you fell for that.

I don't go into movies nit picking so much if its overall good. If i leave it and am like "damn that was a good movie" then thats that. But when i leave and i'm like "how the fukk did that get hyped so much?" i'm going to nitpick the shit out of it. starting with the first half of the movie where i'll never agree with you that it was so interesting or made the main character endearing at all. IMO it was as awfully done as any action movie i've seen in trying to make the main characters likable.

[Le Shaqtus]

All i can say is i disagree. I know the scenes you're talking about but i came away from them with a completely different view. I thought the whole jump to modern day from the radiation catastrophe that killed his wife was when it all started going downhill...when they started introducing his son and his wife, and their kid.

first off the research angle was non existent other than piggy backing off of Cranston's notes. that Japanese research guy and his assistant sucked. They knew next to nothing despite having decades to research these things. How they introduced those plants where they had them monitored was really retarded too since it was like "and oh yeah we have another one in Nevada...". they had such a Micky Mouse grasp on thinigs and these guys are supposed to be the government experts.

It was a joke to me how when he first gets to that plant is when the monster just so happens to be breaking loose. Its when they discover Cranston's notes about the vibrations being the same as before, and it all goes down exactly at the same time they're there, and his father dies. it was all out of the blue build up. In some movies they get tidbits of info thats interesting, and research for more tidbits of info, and then a breakthru....but this was all more or less trying to use Cranston's son to remember what Cranston knew which led to more or less nothing. so no real research angle happening...

it all became more or less tracking the monsters as they showed up. Getting to where they were going, pointlessly shooting at them, and trying to figure out how to stop them early on. The other side to this was introducing the son and his family. His and his wife's bond with their kid. The father was a soldier and the mom was a doctor, who seemingly worked hard raising a kid individually since the man seemed to be away a lot. They try to get the audience to care about him and his family to very little affect. Cmon don't even tell me you cared so much about them through those scenes....

like i mentioned before even the subway scene with the asian kid was as pointless as it gets. This is all wasted filler time, like him trying to get with that new unit because he's a missiles expert...just fukking go already dude. i don't need to watch a scene of him trying to get on a unit thats part of the team to nuke them. i don't need to see some asian kid who lost his parents because he got into the subway and the doors closed, and later finds them out of the blue. i mean so much happened in the first half of the movie that was either pointless, or was such a lame attempt at making the main characters endearing that i don't know how any of you fell for that.

I don't go into movies nit picking so much if its overall good. If i leave it and am like "damn that was a good movie" then thats that. But when i leave and i'm like "how the fukk did that get hyped so much?" i'm going to nitpick the shit out of it. starting with the first half of the movie where i'll never agree with you that it was so interesting or made the main character endearing at all. IMO it was as awfully done as any action movie i've seen in trying to make the main characters likable.

We can agree to disagree, I think both views have been represented at this point :lol

[Godzuki]

Attention spans are exactly the issue. If you are only entertained when a monster is stomping around you dont even want to see a good movie. You want to watch Rampage the Game with better CGI.

The whole movie was interesting with the exception of things that are never really interesting....like brief family time moments to setup what people have to live for and all.

But they play a role. Cranstons whole time in the plant...that whole situation. His son going to get him out and the conversation they had. Them sneaking back in. The drama as they realized what was happening and that he had data on it from years ago. Even the opening credits were well done. I found myself trying to catch what they had blacklisted next to peoples names.

You cant go into a movie like that and have monsters fighting it out after 10 minutes. It was never gonna be that. And it shouldnt be.


thing is anyone can use the attention span excuse for something incredibly boring...and i'd say that applies to what you're using it for. To even pretend to justify the people build up in this movie as good is absurd. None of what went on early is good writing. There was such much pointless in the early part of the movie that had very little affect on the audience to make them care about the people, i don't get how you guys are hyping it. In almost all facets it was below par for any movie trying to create a endearment to the main characters. Citing lack of attention span regarding something extremely boring isn't a good critique of the viewers imo.

I'm not saying the monsters should be shown throughout the whole movie. At the same time you can't really justify a Godzilla movie as being so great when half the movie isn't even so much about the monsters than the chase, and people endearment which did a horrible job. The chase was bad too since all it was was them getting their asses kicked trying to follow these things revolving around one guy who kind of fell into the audiences lap.

I swear the main focus of this director was to show off the scale of these creatures. So when we got views of them it gave quite a impression. Whether that was Godzilla swimming around ships, walking next to buildings and rails w/ humans lying on them, it gave that epic impression. Other than that there was so little special about this that i have no idea where so much hyping is coming from.

There is just no way you all can sit here and pretend the first half of the movie was so good, interesting, or endearing to the characters at all. I'll never agree with that and using attention span is like saying watching paint dry is enjoyable if you pay attention hard enough. Cmon there is just NO WAY y'all can act like the people stuff, or even build up was good. If it wass good i have no problem giving it credit but just NO WAY.

[Godzuki]

We can agree to disagree, I think both views have been represented at this point :lol

i'm cool with that and yeah lol at our walls of txts :cheers:

[IamRAMBO24]

All i can say is i disagree. I know the scenes you're talking about but i came away from them with a completely different view. I thought the whole jump to modern day from the radiation catastrophe that killed his wife was when it all started going downhill...when they started introducing his son and his wife, and their kid.

first off the research angle was non existent other than piggy backing off of Cranston's notes. that Japanese research guy and his assistant sucked. They knew next to nothing despite having decades to research these things. How they introduced those plants where they had them monitored was really retarded too since it was like "and oh yeah we have another one in Nevada...". they had such a Micky Mouse grasp on thinigs and these guys are supposed to be the government experts.

It was a joke to me how when he first gets to that plant is when the monster just so happens to be breaking loose. Its when they discover Cranston's notes about the vibrations being the same as before, and it all goes down exactly at the same time they're there, and his father dies. it was all out of the blue build up. In some movies they get tidbits of info thats interesting, and research for more tidbits of info, and then a breakthru....but this was all more or less trying to use Cranston's son to remember what Cranston knew which led to more or less nothing. so no real research angle happening...

it all became more or less tracking the monsters as they showed up. Getting to where they were going, pointlessly shooting at them, and trying to figure out how to stop them early on. The other side to this was introducing the son and his family. His and his wife's bond with their kid. The father was a soldier and the mom was a doctor, who seemingly worked hard raising a kid individually since the man seemed to be away a lot. They try to get the audience to care about him and his family to very little affect. Cmon don't even tell me you cared so much about them through those scenes....

like i mentioned before even the subway scene with the asian kid was as pointless as it gets. This is all wasted filler time, like him trying to get with that new unit because he's a missiles expert...just fukking go already dude. i don't need to watch a scene of him trying to get on a unit thats part of the team to nuke them. i don't need to see some asian kid who lost his parents because he got into the subway and the doors closed, and later finds them out of the blue. i mean so much happened in the first half of the movie that was either pointless, or was such a lame attempt at making the main characters endearing that i don't know how any of you fell for that.

I don't go into movies nit picking so much if its overall good. If i leave it and am like "damn that was a good movie" then thats that. But when i leave and i'm like "how the fukk did that get hyped so much?" i'm going to nitpick the shit out of it. starting with the first half of the movie where i'll never agree with you that it was so interesting or made the main character endearing at all. IMO it was as awfully done as any action movie i've seen in trying to make the main characters likable.

This sums it up. The movie was stupid as f*ck. The girl at the ticket booth should of just handed me a baggie of petrified cat sh*t instead of a ticket.I know this is supposed to be a fun action movie. I know it's about Godzilla, but I can't help but think the people who actually liked it are holding their d*cks while they were watching it. The build up was absymal. The acting was horrible. The plot didn't make any sense, and above all, the CGI wasn't even all that great. I think it could of been a great movie if they kept Bran Cranston alive so they could build up the story a bit more. Maybe through his brilliant research his son could be the one designated to detonate the bomb instead of randomly jumping on the train because he "felt like it." Surely, he would of been a lot more likable character if he finally gave his father the benefit of the doubt, admit he was wrong, and help save the world. There would of been no need for his stupid son, wife and that asian kid on the train to try to build him up. It's just small sh*t like that. The movie doesn't need much. A consistent story would be nice, and if they wanted to add a "feel good" character, then they should of kept it straight forward instead of throwing all these random acts of kindness and "emotional correlation" into a blob of a mess of a movie.

[Le Shaqtus]

i'm cool with that and yeah lol at our walls of txts :cheers:

:cheers:

[Kblaze8855]

Dude...you do know that your opinion means nothing to other people right? I dont get to decide what you think....you dont get to decide what others think. I went to the movie with 3 others. Everyone enjoyed it. A room full of people enjoyed it. People actually cheered at parts.

So save your "You cant tell meyou enjoyed...". People enjoyed. Accept it or dont. But claiming otherwise is more pointless than any scene you are complaining about.

Listen to yourself. Read your posts. You are talking about not building genuine affection for characters in a ****ing MONSTER MOVIE.

Watch a movie about character development if you want that. Dont watch a movie about a 400 foot tall lizard brawling with monster bugs.

Ive not cared who lived or died in an action movie...perhaps ever. Maybe as a kid.

I think I remember hoping the little girl on that War of the Worlds remake didnt die. Thats about it. And even that wouldnt have been an emotional reaction. I just would have been shocked they diid it.

Godzilla movies are, were, and always will be 45 minutes of buildup then a payoff scene. I watched them as a kid. It was just the same. I watched japanese families hug and have dumb subtitled discussions with "epic" music and guys on submarines looking at murky radar readouts and talking about wacky theories.

This was EXACTLY what a godzilla movie has always been....just much better acting and effects.

If you are bored by an hour of human elements before shit blows up real good thats pretty muc hthe definition of a short attention span.

Just wait...or go see a movie of wall to wall action with your 8 year old little cousin.

Children might have trouble with this movie far as growing restless. I wouldnt assume an adult would go in expecting anything but what it was.

[Godzuki]

Dude...you do know that your opinion means nothing to other people right? I dont get to decide what you think....you dont get to decide what others think. I went to the movie with 3 others. Everyone enjoyed it. A room full of people enjoyed it. People actually cheered at parts.

So save your "You cant tell meyou enjoyed...". People enjoyed. Accept it or dont. But claiming otherwise is more pointless than any scene you are complaining about.

Listen to yourself. Read your posts. You are talking about not building genuine affection for characters in a ****ing MONSTER MOVIE.

Watch a movie about character development if you want that. Dont watch a movie about a 400 foot tall lizard brawling with monster bugs.

Ive not cared who lived or died in an action movie...perhaps ever. Maybe as a kid.

I think I remember hoping the little girl on that War of the Worlds remake didnt die. Thats about it. And even that wouldnt have been an emotional reaction. I just would have been shocked they diid it.

Godzilla movies are, were, and always will be 45 minutes of buildup then a payoff scene. I watched them as a kid. It was just the same. I watched japanese families hug and have dumb subtitled discussions with "epic" music and guys on submarines looking at murky radar readouts and talking about wacky theories.

This was EXACTLY what a godzilla movie has always been....just much better acting and effects.

If you are bored by an hour of human elements before shit blows up real good thats pretty muc hthe definition of a short attention span.

Just wait...or go see a movie of wall to wall action with your 8 year old little cousin.

Children might have trouble with this movie far as growing restless. I wouldnt assume an adult would go in expecting anything but what it was.

you should really check yourself dude since i don't give a shit who you went to this movie with, how you went to it, or whatever... but pretending like its attention span based on something incredibly boring and done poorly is a lame attempt at taking a shot at those criticizing it with actual explanations.

when you can at least explain which parts early on and where/why they were so interesting then maybe i'll give a shit about you and your crew loving it. But just saying i don't matter despite you replying to me and other critics calling our attention spans short....or using attention span at all on parts of the movie a lot of people are complaining about almost falling asleep from......just is lame. At the least make a fukkin argument instead of getting so butthurt people are complaining about a movie you liked :facepalm

thing is you can't possibly make a decent argument for the first half of the movie other than you and your 2 friends being high or drunk. I don't even think most of the people who liked it would try and defend the first half of the movie either....lol @ attention span :facepalm

this is really why i need to weed people out of recommendations to stuff. I swear between FPS's and movies, most people always lead me astray because they always seem to fall for the hype :P

[Kblaze8855]

The whole point of telling you that you dont matter...and I dont matter to you...is that you cant decide for me what I enjoy. So statements like

"Cmon there is just NO WAY y'all can act like the people stuff, or even build up was good."

are a joke.

How am I going to tell you what I liked....and have it be a valid point t oyou? You didnt like it...and are using your not liking it as evidence of it not being good.

Your whole premise is....I didnt like it....it was boring...you cant tell me you liked it either.

The **** is that?

Just dont like it. Im not aking you to like it. You arent going to tell others what they liked.

People liked White Chicks. I suspect I wouldnt. Doesnt mean I get to decide what anyone else thinks.


You are complaining about being bored before the action. If that isnt an issue of attention span nothing is.

Action movie or not it clearly was not made for people who lack the patience to let it build. It isnt really for children....because children...have short attention spans.

That you take that as some shot at your character or intelligence is odd to me. The things really arent related.

Not everyone likes everything. Some just dont have the patience for a movie like that to build. Id suggest they not watch monster movies. Not the good ones at least.

Guy who made this also made a lower budged indy film called "Monsters". Perhaps you would like that more. Or...totally hate it. The payoff in that is like...the last 4 minutes. But its one of the best monster movies to a lot of people.

[Kblaze8855]

I watched "Monsters" because of an ebert review here:

http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/monsters-2010


A movie named "Monsters" must contain monsters. But in its breathtaking final scene, we realize they should not be called Monsters but perhaps simply Beings.


"Monsters" holds our attention ever more deeply as we realize it's not a casual exploitation picture. We expect that sooner or later, we'll get a good look at the aliens close up. When we do, let's say it's not a disappointment. They're ugly and uncannily beautiful. We've never seen anything like them. And their motives are made clear in a sequence combining uncommon suspense and uncanny poetry.

Edwards is brilliant at evoking the awe and beauty he has been building toward, and at last we fully realize the film's ambitious arc. I think the lesson may be: Life has its reasons. Motives are pretty universal. Monsters are in the eye of the beholder.


Maybe watch it on a very bored night. Id like t osee how you compare the two movies.

[Godzuki]

The whole point of telling you that you dont matter...and I dont matter to you...is that you cant decide for me what I enjoy. So statements like

"Cmon there is just NO WAY y'all can act like the people stuff, or even build up was good."

are a joke.

How am I going to tell you what I liked....and have it be a valid point t oyou? You didnt like it...and are using your not liking it as evidence of it not being good.

Your whole premise is....I didnt like it....it was boring...you cant tell me you liked it either.

The **** is that?

Just dont like it. Im not aking you to like it. You arent going to tell others what they liked.

People liked White Chicks. I suspect I wouldnt. Doesnt mean I get to decide what anyone else thinks.


You are complaining about being bored before the action. If that isnt an issue of attention span nothing is.

Action movie or not it clearly was not made for people who lack the patience to let it build. It isnt really for children....because children...have short attention spans.

That you take that as some shot at your character or intelligence is odd to me. The things really arent related.

Not everyone likes everything. Some just dont have the patience for a movie like that to build. Id suggest they not watch monster movies. Not the good ones at least.

Guy who made this also made a lower budged indy film called "Monsters". Perhaps you would like that more. Or...totally hate it. The payoff in that is like...the last 4 minutes. But its one of the best monster movies to a lot of people.


i took what you said the wrong way then. I thought when you said that you were blowing us who had critical opinions off more than the some will like it or some won't deal...

but it was the same with attention span. that is a insult, or condescending remark in relation to movie reviews.

i mean considering i watch/read a lot of news, watch Game of Thrones, and various other rather slow paced stuff without tons of action i don't think its my attention span thats the issue.

We'll just have to agree to disagree since i don't think there is anything there WORTH paying much attention to....lets just say Godzilla won't get much praise for its storylines or human drama and build up.

[Kblaze8855]

Name 3 monster movies in the history of film that did and ill stop assuming you went into the wrong genre.

Even those beloved by critics...like Jaws....are about the suspense of maybe the shark coming out.

i'll give you Alien. The first one.I literally cant think of a second.

Its really as if you dont know what kind of movie this was supposed to be.

You see any of the other 60 godzilla movies? Even the early ones were 25-30 minutes in and the ywere not 2+ hours long.

King Kong in 05...it was 67 minutes before he appeared.

The last Godzilla was 48 minutes. The Trex wasnt in jurassic park for 64 minutes.

Super 8...I think that thing came out with literally 10 minutes to go.

This is what a monster movie is.

50 minutes of people you dont care about in awe of what this monster is doing off camera and the fear from old people who know about the monster.

Gotta know your genre.


*edit*

You having added the "build up" which was not there to begin with you may get to 3...not 3 on the storyline and human drama

*edit*

[ROCSteady]

Cloverfield>>Pacific Rim>(barely)Godzilla '14>>Godzilla '98

[step_back]

Cloverfield did a superb job with building tension. You also never saw the Monster in it's entirety.

[ROCSteady]

It had a far superior and chilling atmosphere too. Way more thrilling.

Godzilla was pretty cool when the monsters were on screen but everything else was dull and run of the mill. Aaron Johnson or whatever was a terrible lead.

[Godzuki]

Name 3 monster movies in the history of film that did and ill stop assuming you went into the wrong genre.

Even those beloved by critics...like Jaws....are about the suspense of maybe the shark coming out.

i'll give you Alien. The first one.I literally cant think of a second.

Its really as if you dont know what kind of movie this was supposed to be.

You see any of the other 60 godzilla movies? Even the early ones were 25-30 minutes in and the ywere not 2+ hours long.

King Kong in 05...it was 67 minutes before he appeared.

The last Godzilla was 48 minutes. The Trex wasnt in jurassic park for 64 minutes.

Super 8...I think that thing came out with literally 10 minutes to go.

This is what a monster movie is.

50 minutes of people you dont care about in awe of what this monster is doing off camera and the fear from old people who know about the monster.

Gotta know your genre.


actually Jaws did a excellent job at the people stuff. father was the sheriff or something, introduced the wife, kids, introduced the drama(mayor trying to bring in tourists)....gave a good sense of all of the people on the beach frolicking around having a good time....then shark reports. then mayor is covering up...then main characters kid goes on boat with friends, etc. where you feel for the fathers paranoia and crazyness. not to mention the fisherman introductions and relationships....

King Kong did a excellent job. Hearing about a legend, getting together a big exploration party, getting to know the characters especially the girl and her relationship with the main character...taking a long, arduous trip to some remote island, introducing a crazy overgrown environment of everything being gigantic in some long lost part of the world.

i'm trying to think of another monster movie but even doing it the way we just did isn't that fair to Godzilla. They're all too different to expect the same exact formulas to work. King Kong for example had a lot more in terms of mystery to the island King Kong lived on, or even its inhabitants. Jaws had a lot more of a summer family feel so it gave more of a ominous danger when you saw shots from the water from the viewpoint of a shark.

I don't expect Godzilla to follow those formula's really, but that is not to say i am okay with Godzilla having such a shitty pre-story build up to them fighting. Honestly the dude in Godzilla was as unfamiliar a main character i've seen in a movie in a long time. I didn't give a fukk about him, or his family. I probably cared more that the BreakingBad guy died...and was thinking what a waste, and who is this nobody they made the main character now?.....and all this dude does is end up getting knocked unconscious or holding on to stuff for his life which didn't ever have me on the edge of my seat.

There was just very little in Godzilla that was anything like the classic monster movies IMO, most especially in terms of build up or tension.

[~primetime~]

People can say "there was very little Godzilla" but there was a SHIT LOAD of the Muto scenes fcking shit up...it's not like the movie lacked monster scenes. Even when they weren't showing the monsters they tried their hardest to fit a TV screen in the background that was showing them fck up buildings.

[Draz]

I just thought the other monsters were fggoty

[ROCSteady]

The Mutos were cool.


That scene where they finally met up and were embracing each other was effective, primal and nature's beckoning.

Lol when they showed the shot of the females bulging egg sack my friend leaned over and was like, "Needs to bust a nut," despite being a female creature who just needed a little fertilization

[~primetime~]

the male muto flying through the city was awesome...loved when he showed up on the scene

http://dvdreleasesandnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Godzilla-muto-beast-not-rodan.png

http://nerdreactor.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Rodan-Godzilla.jpg


:bowdown:

[ROCSteady]

That was great, one of the only chilling visuals the film had to offer

[Le Shaqtus]

It had a far superior and chilling atmosphere too. Way more thrilling.

Godzilla was pretty cool when the monsters were on screen but everything else was dull and run of the mill. Aaron Johnson or whatever was a terrible lead.

It would have been better if Cranston was lead.

[~primetime~]

That was great, one of the only chilling visuals the film had to offer
you're nuts

movie was full of great visuals...the bridge scene was amazing, BOTH BRIDGE SCENES...the one with the nuke/train at night and the one with the school bus. Anytime they showed the monsters trucking through a city it was amazing...just about every time they showed monsters period it was amazing.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zD-cmgGkNP4/U3HwrDz0sVI/AAAAAAAA0x8/0Bj-8yipaXU/s1600/Godzilla-2014-film-17.gif

they did a great job with the visuals IMO.

The sound was also great...LOVED the way they used the classic Godzilla music during scenes.

[ThePhantomCreep]

It had a far superior and chilling atmosphere too. Way more thrilling.

Godzilla was pretty cool when the monsters were on screen but everything else was dull and run of the mill. Aaron Johnson or whatever was a terrible lead.

Agreed, I thought he gave a terribly wooden performance. His character arc was almost non-existent too. You would think that after suffering the loss of both parents to the Mutos it would light a fire under him to get revenge (a journey the audience could easily get behind) but nope. After his non-reaction to his father's death, he simply wants to get home. That's it. Even an obligatory clich

[~primetime~]

I am glad his performance was in the background...you don't go to Godzilla for great character arcs :facepalm

It would have been awful if he had dominated the flick with cheezy one-liners

"THIS ONE IS FOR YOU DAD!!!"
*blows up muto nest*


what he reminded me of was a normal war vet who missed his family and had a small bit of PTSD in him...kept the monsters in the spot light, not him or his love story that no one cared about.

[ThePhantomCreep]

I am glad his performance was in the background...you don't go to Godzilla for great character arcs :facepalm

It would have been awful if he had dominated the flick with cheezy one-liners

"THIS ONE IS FOR YOU DAD!!!"
*blows up muto nest*


what he reminded me of was a normal war vet who missed his family and had a small bit of PTSD in him...kept the monsters in the spot light, not him or his love story that no one cared about.

A simple character arc is screenwriting 101. Even the shittiest movies have them. Face it, the performances sucked, and since a massive portion of the movie is devoted to them, that constitutes a huge flaw. If you're going to make a Godzilla movie devoid of plot or interesting characters (like this one), you'd better give us 30 minute of the title character, not 8.

[ROCSteady]

you're nuts

movie was full of great visuals...the bridge scene was amazing, BOTH BRIDGE SCENES...the one with the nuke/train at night and the one with the school bus. Anytime they showed the monsters trucking through a city it was amazing...just about every time they showed monsters period it was amazing.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zD-cmgGkNP4/U3HwrDz0sVI/AAAAAAAA0x8/0Bj-8yipaXU/s1600/Godzilla-2014-film-17.gif

they did a great job with the visuals IMO.

The sound was also great...LOVED the way they used the classic Godzilla music during scenes.

Good shots all around in a, 'that's badass' kinda way.

What I meant was very few evoked a sense of terror or had a chilling effect that had an impact where I felt like they seemed plausible and intimidating in a real world sense. In that sense, this movie was a disappointment.

[DonDadda59]

Should've kept Cranston alive and the main human character. His story was interesting at least. Johnson's characters kind of just sat/stood around a little misty eyed. Lots of pointless filler in this, could've cut it short by an 45 min and not missed anything.

[~primetime~]

Good shots all around in a, 'that's badass' kinda way.

What I meant was very few evoked a sense of terror or had a chilling effect that had an impact where I felt like they seemed plausible and intimidating in a real world sense. In that sense, this movie was a disappointment.
The train bridge scene at night with the muto wasn't "chilling"

It's supposed to be more 'badass' than horror though, Godzilla isn't really suposed to be chilling horror.

[~primetime~]

Should've kept Cranston alive and the main human character. His story was interesting at least. Johnson's characters kind of just sat/stood around a little misty eyed. Lots of pointless filler in this, could've cut it short by an 45 min and not missed anything.
I like that they killed him. Writers put the movie first, big name actors second.

[ROCSteady]

The train bridge scene at night with the muto wasn't "chilling"

It's supposed to be more 'badass' than horror though, Godzilla isn't really suposed to be chilling horror.

Yea maybe I just fell too hard for the marketing and trailers which gave out a tone and atmosphere that was largely absent. The final product seemed pretty different than what got everybody pumped and intrigued.

[DonDadda59]

I like that they killed him. Writers put the movie first, big name actors second.

Honestly felt like they wasted his character, who was the only engaging human presence. I literally fell asleep in the middle. I'm not a guy who needs loud explosions to hold my attention, but there was literally nothing worthwhile going on and there were a lot of unnecessary characters (the admiral, Watanabe and his assistant, etc). Just meandered with bland, wooden performances.

Cranston's paranoid character gave the first part of the film a sort of kinetic energy that moved things forward. After he died, there was nothing but empty filler until Zilla finally showed up.

[~primetime~]

Honestly felt like they wasted his character, who was the only engaging human presence. I literally fell asleep in the middle. I'm not a guy who needs loud explosions to hold my attention, but there was literally nothing worthwhile going on and there were a lot of unnecessary characters (the admiral, Watanabe and his assistant, etc). Just meandered with bland, wooden performances.

Cranston's paranoid character gave the first part of the film a sort of kinetic energy that moved things forward. After he died, there was nothing but empty filler until Zilla finally showed up.
Empty filler? Lol... The muto scenes were awesome. You literally fell asleep in the theater? That was a LOUD fckin movie to sleep, you must have been really tired. You must have also slept through all the muto scenes, there were a lot of them.

Godzilla being present or not, that movie was full of monster wreckage.

[~primetime~]

I thought Cransons character was cliche and nothing worth wild. The scene with him losing his wife was interesting I guess but after that he was just a conspiracy theorist out to prove he was right.

Wait... Are we really talking about human character roles in a Godzilla movie? Lol we are doing it wrong.

[ROCSteady]

He was like the only guy who even showed any heightened reactions to anything.


His son, was literally present at EVERY sighting of either MUTO or Godzilla (Japan, Hawaii, Vegas, San Francisco) saw giant fearsome beasts wrecking shit right in front of him and destroying whole cities and his reactions weren't much more animated than a stranger letting off a fart on a bus. He did not sell being caught up close in that situation, stoic military man or not.

Him and his wife were shitty parents too. He hopped on an operation that wasn't even his branch of the military and she pawned off her kid to some other lady in the city being destroyed to earn some time and a half at the hospital or something.

[~primetime~]

It's Godzilla though :facepalm

If you went in expecting Oscar level acting then you were doing it wrong, Mathew Broderick made some crazy facial expressions, and they showed lots of Godzilla, just watch that again.

[ROCSteady]

Godzilla movie or not, if you have human actors on screen for 2 hours, they just can't be dull uninspired and cutouts. That's just bad movie making and results in an underwhelming movie with some awesome monster destruction also present.

Pacific Rim had some bonafide cheese in it but at least it's amusing to laugh at that shit and not be just like 'meh.' The actors actually had a pulse.

I didn't expect Oscar level anything except effects but I did expect a disaster movie where I could buy that the people were going through some crazy shit, feel something for them while I saw bigger things crush shit and each other. That's what kept it from being a good movie from being merely decent with awesome parts

[Ancient Legend]

Godzilla movie or not, if you have human actors on screen for 2 hours, they just can't be dull uninspired and cutouts. That's just bad movie making and results in an underwhelming movie with some awesome monster destruction also present.



This.

It's not the lack of Godzilla per se that disappointed some, but the human element leading to the climax was done very poorly. The characters were dull as heck, like nothing of apocalyptic scale was happening in front of them (the general, Watanabe, the lead marine, etc). Also some bad editing between the battles and the human scenes.

Movie was good but could have been much better.

[DonDadda59]

I thought Cransons character was cliche and nothing worth wild. The scene with him losing his wife was interesting I guess but after that he was just a conspiracy theorist out to prove he was right.

Wait... Are we really talking about human character roles in a Godzilla movie? Lol we are doing it wrong.

The movie was like 90% Kick Ass staring blankly off into the distance while sitting in a train, or walking down the street, or on a boat. So yeah, we're really talking about human character roles when the title character was in there for only a handful of minutes.

The human element was nothing but filler. With Cranston in the beginning it was at least somewhat interesting as he had some sort of motivation. The other actors were so listless it felt like they were worried about an outbreak of the flu and not some 40 story tall radiation monsters coming to f*ck shit up. It was weird.

When Watanabe's character was like 'let them fight', I was thinking 'thank you, clap for this n*gga everybody'. Get these pointless, time-wasting characters out of here and let the monsters do their thing.

Just a waste of some great actors with shitty material.

[Lamar Doom]

hi, lamar doom, long time listener first time caller... great thread, truly a good read. proud of everyone involved and everyone who helped make them who they are.

what can I say? best movie ever. I was pretty much throbbing hard the entire way until I busted a puddle at the end when GODZILLA F*CKING WON! Duders, that motherf*cker was a GOD. Remember that part where he came out of the ocean and all those luau tourists were like "RUNNNN" and that dog was tied to the tree and then ran from the tidal wave? Can you imagine? What do you think Elizabeth Olsen smells like, clean laundry or shampoo?

[ROCSteady]

Lamar a beast, yung

[Ball So Harden]

Pacific Rim had some bonafide cheese in it but at least it's amusing to laugh at that shit and not be just like 'meh.' The actors actually had a pulse.



Outside of Idris, the actors were terrible. Worse than Godzilla's.

Idris = Cranston
Godzilla remaining cast > Pacific Rim remaining cast

Pacific Rim sucked.

[ROCSteady]

Outside of Idris, the actors were terrible. Worse than Godzilla's.

Idris = Cranston
Godzilla remaining cast > Pacific Rim remaining cast

Pacific Rim sucked.

Neither cast was good. Just saying the obvious cheese factor of like Ron Perlman and the bad acting added an amusement at times and had a very slick visual aesthetic that made the monster fights pop and have more color and artistic direction. I'm not a huge fan of either one, both watchable though

[Ball So Harden]

Neither cast was good. Just saying the obvious cheese factor of like Ron Perlman and the bad acting added an amusement at times and had a very slick visual aesthetic that made the monster fights pop and have more color and artistic direction. I'm not a huge fan of either one, both watchable though

I got no thrill from Pacific Rim at all, not even the fights. Felt very bland. There were fewer fights in Godzilla, but they were more gritty and not filled with horrible cuts to the people inside the machines.

[Solidape]

Only bad thing I didnt like about Pacific Rim was the alien that could "fly" almost into outer space holding that robot.

Also just because the Robot can fall from 60,000ft and survive, the inertia from the impact will kill the people unless that robot is filled with jello.

[eriX]

just watched this and holy shiet that movie was so underwhelming... :facepalm