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triangleoffense
05-19-2014, 08:42 PM
The rig is real

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/mark-cuban-allegedly-consulted-with-a-former-fbi-agent-about-investigating-and-suing-the-nba-in-2006-230853615.html

So how many legit championships do the heat have? 1 or 2? Some would argue that 2012 was rigged as well since Jew-Snake 1 andd 2 wouldn't have never let Lebron not be a superstar since Jordan's absence.

AnaheimLakers24
05-19-2014, 08:56 PM
0

nothing but * * *

russwest0
05-19-2014, 08:59 PM
he should have and likely would have won but he'd also be opening pandoras box

PJR
05-19-2014, 08:59 PM
http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/115/files/2014/04/nba-milwaukee-bucks-miami-heat.jpg


Inb4 some idiot Photoshops with asterisks lol

ProfessorMurder
05-19-2014, 09:03 PM
Garbage writer. He gets a quote like this:


“Cuban asked me what he should do,” Flagg said of the 2006 Finals. “I told him, ‘Sue and you’ll win your case,’"

And then just proceeds to prop up Wade and the Heat... As if an FBI investigator would tell him to sue if sufficient evidence wasn't found.

Genaro
05-19-2014, 09:04 PM
Most rigged Finals ever

Spaulding
05-19-2014, 09:04 PM
Wonder if any investigations were done by the Kings and Blazers back in Laker days. Males you wonder. Clippers could ask for one in their series this year.

Real14
05-19-2014, 09:04 PM
0

nothing but * * *
Exactly.

Smook A.
05-19-2014, 09:06 PM
Wade DID get a ton of free throws in that series :confusedshrug:

Game 1 - 10 FTA
Game 2- 14 FTA
Game 3 - 18 FTA :eek:
Game 4 - 9 FTA
Game 5 - 25 FTA :wtf:
Game 6 - 21 FTA :wtf:

So as you can see, Dwyane Wade was given alot of free throw attempts. I remember going back a few months to watch game 5 and game 6 again and I noticed that some of the calls he got really had me saying "He barely got touched. How is that a foul" type of stuff.

Cone
05-19-2014, 09:09 PM
poor mavs. got robbed.

thats why in my books, dirk has 2 rings. :cheers:

Real14
05-19-2014, 09:10 PM
Wade DID get a ton of free throws in that series :confusedshrug:

Game 1 - 10 FTA
Game 2- 14 FTA
Game 3 - 18 FTA :eek:
Game 4 - 9 FTA
Game 5 - 25 FTA :wtf:
Game 6 - 21 FTA :wtf:

So as you can see, Dwyane Wade was given alot of free throw attempts. I remember going back a few months to watch game 5 and game 6 again and I noticed that some of the calls he got really had me saying "He barely got touched. How is that a foul" type of stuff.
yea you are right. That was horrible and downright disgusting. I was actually a wade fan before this occurred too.

toooo
05-19-2014, 09:12 PM
Dwade not even good. Can't win a ring without Lerefs

Twiens
05-19-2014, 09:12 PM
I remember Tmac and several other players calling out the league for rigging that series. Was incredibly obvious.

Warfan
05-19-2014, 09:18 PM
Thing is, Cuban can partly blame himself for the soft fouls called on the perimeter back then. Wade was relentlessly attacking the basket and benefited from the rules.

Rubio2Gasol
05-19-2014, 09:20 PM
He should definitely. At the very least lets get Joey out the league once and for all.

PJR
05-19-2014, 09:29 PM
Thing is, Cuban can partly blame himself for the soft fouls called on the perimeter back then. Wade was relentlessly attacking the basket and benefited from the rules.

Yep.

http://blogmaverick.com/2009/02/04/if-its-not-broke-doesnt-mean-its-optimal-even-in-the-nba/


So a few years ago, Im watching the Pistons beat the Lakers in the Finals. I’m seeing Larry Brown’s Pistons fully take advantage of the rules. It was impossible to stay in front of Kobe. He could get anywhere he wanted on the court. The Pistons knew it as well. So every time he tried to get to the basket, they would body up and bump him. The officials did just as they were supposed to. Since Kobe had the advantage on the defender, they didn’t call a foul. However that little bump slowed Kobe down just enough that it gave Ben Wallace a split second more to on a pre rotation to the Paint, to be in a better position to defend the basket. Kobe still scored, but not quite as often as he may have otherwise.

At that point it dawned on me that the concept of playing the advantage in a one on one matchup had nothing to do with which TEAM gained the advantage. After all, its the team that scores the most points that wins. Detroit had a brilliant strategy and was playing it to perfection. After the finals, I sat down with the league and discussed with them the difference between player and team advantage. The discussion lead to changing the rules so that perimeter contact was called far more often

Bit him in the ASS :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Euroleague
05-19-2014, 09:31 PM
The rig is real

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/mark-cuban-allegedly-consulted-with-a-former-fbi-agent-about-investigating-and-suing-the-nba-in-2006-230853615.html

So how many legit championships do the heat have? 1 or 2? Some would argue that 2012 was rigged as well since Jew-Snake 1 andd 2 wouldn't have never let Lebron not be a superstar since Jordan's absence.

Then was 2011 also rigged? Since Cuban and Dirk are both Jewish?

Smook A.
05-19-2014, 09:33 PM
Then was 2011 also rigged? Since Cuban and Dirk are both Jewish?
Cuban is Jewish, Dirk isn't.

jimmy77x
05-19-2014, 09:34 PM
Wade DID get a ton of free throws in that series :confusedshrug:

Game 1 - 10 FTA
Game 2- 14 FTA
Game 3 - 18 FTA :eek:
Game 4 - 9 FTA
Game 5 - 25 FTA :wtf:
Game 6 - 21 FTA :wtf:

So as you can see, Dwyane Wade was given alot of free throw attempts. I remember going back a few months to watch game 5 and game 6 again and I noticed that some of the calls he got really had me saying "He barely got touched. How is that a foul" type of stuff.

Heat have 0 legit rings. Dont know why the league loves this franchise so much.

PJR
05-19-2014, 09:44 PM
Heat have 0 legit rings.

No matter how hard you try to convince yourself otherwise, the Heat have won three NBA championships. And will be in play for more in the future.

Suck on them apples, Knick fan.

NoGunzJustSkillz
05-19-2014, 09:46 PM
Heat have 0 legit rings.

Euroleague
05-19-2014, 09:47 PM
Cuban is Jewish, Dirk isn't.

I thought Nowitzki was a Jewish name? Maybe I'm wrong.

HoopsFanNumero1
05-19-2014, 09:59 PM
So Cuban was a huge part of the reason that perimeter players became untouchable in '06 and then he wanted to sue the league for something that was his fault? :oldlol:

JUDGE WITNESS
05-19-2014, 10:15 PM
So Cuban was a huge part of the reason that perimeter players became untouchable in '06 and then he wanted to sue the league for something that was his fault? :oldlol:
this :facepalm

The-Legend-24
05-19-2014, 10:16 PM
:oldlol:

GrapeApe
05-19-2014, 10:17 PM
Cuban should have sued his own players for missing crucial free throws, on fouls, called by, you guessed it, the refs. Dat irony.

mattvNJ
05-19-2014, 11:18 PM
I thought Nowitzki was a Jewish name? Maybe I'm wrong.
Straight Deutsch, Dirks from W

backb0ard
05-19-2014, 11:26 PM
He should have. If he opened that can of worms then, the NBA probably has better officiating now.

triangleoffense
05-19-2014, 11:41 PM
So name the most rigged finals/drafts in the NBA starting with 1984 NYK rigging for Ewing


Then was 2011 also rigged? Since Cuban and Dirk are both Jewish?

Uh Dirk is from Germany and Cuban is not jewish? Where do you get ur info?

russwest0
05-19-2014, 11:42 PM
He should have. If he opened that can of worms then, the NBA probably has better officiating now.

That can of worms was opened during the Donaghy scandal and the officiating hasn't improved much at all.

russwest0
05-19-2014, 11:43 PM
So name the most rigged finals/drafts in the NBA starting with 1984 NYK rigging for Ewing

1985 draft rigged for Knicks to get Ewing
1993 for Suns to get to Finals
2001 for 76ers to get to Finals
2002 for Lakers to get to Finals
2006 for Heat to win the Finals
2012 for Heat and Thunder to get to the Finals

I'm sure other draft lotteries were rigged as well but that 1985 one was no doubt rigged.

pastis
05-19-2014, 11:43 PM
[QUOTE=mattvNJ]Straight Deutsch, Dirks from W

Relinquish
05-19-2014, 11:53 PM
1985 draft rigged for Knicks to get Ewing
1993 for Suns to get to Finals
2001 for 76ers to get to Finals
2002 for Lakers to get to Finals
2006 for Heat to win the Finals
2012 for Heat and Thunder to get to the Finals

I'm sure other draft lotteries were rigged as well but that 1985 one was no doubt rigged.

You forgot 2000 for Lakers to get to the finals, that Blazers game 7 was rigged.

kamil
05-19-2014, 11:56 PM
Cuban is Jewish, Dirk isn't.

Howcome we never hear about people's religious beliefs when discussing someones accomplishments EXCEPT when they're jewish? Muslims, christians (all denominations), atheists, buddhists, etc. they're all irrelevant...

???

R.I.P.
05-20-2014, 01:14 AM
I thought Nowitzki was a Jewish name? Maybe I'm wrong.

Maybe?

MAYBE?

You continue to overrate your own intelligence.

R.I.P.
05-20-2014, 01:19 AM
That can of worms was opened during the Donaghy scandal and the officiating hasn't improved much at all.

No it wasn

sportjames23
05-20-2014, 01:21 AM
http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/115/files/2014/04/nba-milwaukee-bucks-miami-heat.jpg


Inb4 some idiot Photoshops with asterisks lol


http://blogimages.thescore.com/tbj/files/2011/11/banners-top.jpg

MavsSuperFan
05-20-2014, 01:30 AM
I did not feel that series was officiated fairly. I thought Wade was bailed out a lot by the refs., but I am biased

KirbyPls
05-20-2014, 01:34 AM
http://blogimages.thescore.com/tbj/files/2011/11/banners-top.jpg

Not sure this helps your case, given some of the links posted ITT.

reppy
05-20-2014, 01:54 AM
Garbage writer. He gets a quote like this:



And then just proceeds to prop up Wade and the Heat... As if an FBI investigator would tell him to sue if sufficient evidence wasn't found.

I thought so, too. We don't know what information was uncovered behind the scenes, or whether or not there's even any truth to this. I would bet money that Cuban did hire someone to investigate the Finals. But whether or not that person found anything that could be acted on? I don't know.

Maybe in 2011, he sent an envelope to the league offices with some damning evidence? Whaddya think? :eek: :D

FPJ
05-20-2014, 01:56 AM
http://blogimages.thescore.com/tbj/files/2011/11/banners-top.jpg

Plus you're in a good position to win multiple championships again with Rose coming back next year. Maybe.

russwest0
05-20-2014, 01:57 AM
I thought so, too. We don't know what information was uncovered behind the scenes, or whether or not there's even any truth to this. I would bet money that Cuban did hire someone to investigate the Finals. But whether or not that person found anything that could be acted on? I don't know.

Maybe in 2011, he sent an envelope to the league offices with some damning evidence? Whaddya think? :eek: :D

lol reports are the league office has a "Mark Cuban Suggestions" box that is literally just a paper shredder that they feed all of his envolopes into

sportjames23
05-20-2014, 01:57 AM
Not sure this helps your case, given some of the links posted ITT.


Anything Jordan-era Bulls related in those links?

sportjames23
05-20-2014, 01:58 AM
Plus you're in a good position to win multiple championships again with Rose coming back next year. Maybe.

Hopefully. My nikka been gone the better part of two years. He comes back and the Bulls get Melo, we back in business.

TheMilkyBarKid
05-20-2014, 02:03 AM
Wade DID get a ton of free throws in that series :confusedshrug:

Game 1 - 10 FTA
Game 2- 14 FTA
Game 3 - 18 FTA :eek:
Game 4 - 9 FTA
Game 5 - 25 FTA :wtf:
Game 6 - 21 FTA :wtf:

So as you can see, Dwyane Wade was given alot of free throw attempts. I remember going back a few months to watch game 5 and game 6 again and I noticed that some of the calls he got really had me saying "He barely got touched. How is that a foul" type of stuff.
Because that isn't an issue with any players anymore?

BoutPractice
05-20-2014, 04:58 AM
That series was poorly officiated, to say the least, and in many fans' minds, it comes if not with an asterisk, then with a basic awareness that something was "not entirely right". Rigged? Difficult to prove. I felt the Mavs still could've won the series despite the bad calls they kept getting, though, so they can only blame themselves I suppose.

(Also, am I the only one who finds Euroleague's little Nazi aside just a bit creepy?)

creepingdeath
05-20-2014, 07:08 AM
Officiating didn't cause Johnson to focus the D on Shaq, and it didn't force Nowitzki to miss the second freethrow to tie the game in game 3.. nor did it cause Terry to miss a wide-open three pointer in game 6. However, the officiating was terribly lop-sided... Plowking can post his 5000 word essay as many times as he wants, still won't change that fact.

PJR
05-20-2014, 07:24 AM
The officiating was consistent with the rule changes. One team (player) took full advantage or it, the other didn't.

Dudes forget that Dirk held the playoff free throw record during the 2006 Western Conference Finals until Wade eclipsed him.


...

Were the Bulls mentioned in this thread? Didn't think so.

trabash
05-20-2014, 07:35 AM
The rig is real

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/mark-cuban-allegedly-consulted-with-a-former-fbi-agent-about-investigating-and-suing-the-nba-in-2006-230853615.html

So how many legit championships do the heat have? 1 or 2? Some would argue that 2012 was rigged as well since Jew-Snake 1 andd 2 wouldn't have never let Lebron not be a superstar since Jordan's absence.

And who can blame Cuban, it doesn't take a genius to see that there was something very fishy going on in that series. Even a few NBA players not involved spoke out about it, that's how obvious it was.

BlackVVaves
05-20-2014, 10:08 AM
The 2006 Finals, especially Games 5 and 6, are exactly why I laugh anytime Heat fans/Bron stans cry in every Thunder or Pacers thread about favorable calls to certain players.

Dat unmitigated audacity :bowdown:

ArbitraryWater
05-20-2014, 10:18 AM
We know 2006 was rigged. MAVS TITLE.

And what stupid accusations have been made about 2012 and 2013 outside of ISH? OP being a retard.

Warfan
05-20-2014, 10:24 AM
We know 2006 was rigged. MAVS TITLE.

And what stupid accusations have been made about 2012 and 2013 outside of ISH? OP being a retard.

How can u be a heat fan and say that miamis first title was rigged and that its suppose to be the mavs' title?

pegasus
05-20-2014, 10:24 AM
Officiating didn't cause Johnson to focus the D on Shaq, and it didn't force Nowitzki to miss the second freethrow to tie the game in game 3.. nor did it cause Terry to miss a wide-open three pointer in game 6. However, the officiating was terribly lop-sided... Plowking can post his 5000 word essay as many times as he wants, still won't change that fact.

Player should be allowed to make some mistakes, miss some makeable shots, but still have a chance to win. The refs in that series took that away from the Mavs. Yes, refs can make some mistakes too but not that many to swing a series.

Derka
05-20-2014, 10:29 AM
This is how rich guys answer the question "umadbro?"

Dresta
05-20-2014, 10:40 AM
How can u be a heat fan and say that miamis first title was rigged and that its suppose to be the mavs' title?
Probably because he's a Bron stan.

Akhenaten
05-20-2014, 10:44 AM
Player should be allowed to make some mistakes, miss some makeable shots, but still have a chance to win. The refs in that series took that away from the Mavs. Yes, refs can make some mistakes too but not that many to swing a series.

What "mistakes" did they make?

Is your opinion based on specific calls, or just the fact that 46 FT's in two games just doesn't pass the smell test?

Prior to Game 5 I don't remember ANYONE complaining about calls or the Heat being favoured.

How did you feel about Kobe shooting 20 FT's in 3 QTRS vs the Mavs in the 06 reg season?

Legit or ref bias?

TheMan
05-20-2014, 11:03 AM
2006 Finals was just bad :facepalm You couldn't even breathe on DWhistle.

ralph_i_el
05-20-2014, 11:13 AM
I thought Nowitzki was a Jewish name? Maybe I'm wrong.
Nowitzki sounds polish to me

PJR
05-20-2014, 11:16 AM
Prior to Game 5 I don't remember ANYONE complaining about calls or the Heat being favoured.



:oldlol: Bingo. Because there was nothing there.

In game 3, Mavs blew a 13 point lead with 6 mins to go, and Wade went superman down the stretch dropping 42-13.

Game 4 was a blow out, where Wade was dropping pull up mid range daggers over and over. Shot 8 free throws the entire game.

It wasnt until game 5, where Wade was able to ice the game at the line, where Heat haters began to lose their shit lol.

"OMGzz Wade shot 25 Free throws in a game that went to overtime !!! More than the entire Mavs team! Rigged!!!! Conspiracy !!!!!"


But that's par for the course when it comes to NBA fandom. Especially on here. These clowns will pick a microcosm, or one play, and make it seem as if it was the whole series.

I laugh at it.

HoopsFanNumero1
05-20-2014, 11:45 AM
Meanwhile, a trash player like Hibbert shoots nearly as many free throws as the Heat and no one gives a fvck :oldlol:

Pointguard
05-20-2014, 12:08 PM
Dudes forget that Dirk held the playoff free throw record during the 2006 Western Conference Finals until Wade eclipsed him.
.

This is what I don't get. At least Wade plays a way that merits it. Amazing that Iverson or Shaq didn't gather more fouls than Dirk.

funnystuff
05-20-2014, 12:09 PM
I'm thinking Rivers needs to take this approach.

Solefade
05-20-2014, 12:18 PM
at least he didn't get fouled trying to shoot 3's and perimeter shots :lol

we all know wade was one of the best slashers in the league

backb0ard
05-20-2014, 01:46 PM
If you search phantom foul on youtube, about half of the results in the first page are from the 2006 finals. :roll: :facepalm

creepingdeath
05-20-2014, 06:06 PM
This is what I don't get. At least Wade plays a way that merits it. Amazing that Iverson or Shaq didn't gather more fouls than Dirk.
Yeah, since Dirk doesn't do anything except shoot jumpers herpderpderpderp... Pointguard being the boxscore expert that he is hasn't even watched the series back in 2006...

And no, of course it's not about the total number of freethrows taken.. no one in their right mind would argue that game 2 of the 2000 NBA finals was rigged because Shaq attempted as many freethrows as the whole Indiana squad.

aboss4real24
05-20-2014, 06:10 PM
Dwade is garbage...

and so r the refs

buddha
05-20-2014, 06:10 PM
if the casual retard found out the league was rigged the nba would be done.

oh wait this is america where nobody raises a finger to corruption and lies, league would be fine, might even be more popular with all the press.

aboss4real24
05-20-2014, 06:13 PM
Mavs were robbed

Hey Yo
05-20-2014, 06:13 PM
Mark Cuban ‏@mcuban 1h
To set the record straight. I have never hired or consulted with any former FBI agents to investigate our 2006 Finals.

PJR
05-20-2014, 06:19 PM
Mark Cuban ‏@mcuban 1h
To set the record straight. I have never hired or consulted with any former FBI agents to investigate our 2006 Finals.

:oldlol:

oarabbus
05-20-2014, 06:44 PM
Mark Cuban ‏@mcuban 1h
To set the record straight. I have never hired or consulted with any former FBI agents to investigate our 2006 Finals.


:oldlol:

NumberSix
05-20-2014, 07:03 PM
Mark Cuban just ****-slapped OP.

russwest0
05-20-2014, 07:12 PM
if the casual retard found out the league was rigged the nba would be done.

oh wait this is america where nobody raises a finger to corruption and lies, league would be fine, might even be more popular with all the press.

you mean like they should have during the donaghy scandal? :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Oh wait, the 2002 WCF was all Donaghy!!! He didn't officiate a game in that series, sure, but it was all him!

Euroleague
05-21-2014, 05:15 AM
So name the most rigged finals/drafts in the NBA starting with 1984 NYK rigging for Ewing



Uh Dirk is from Germany and Cuban is not jewish? Where do you get ur info?

1. Most Jews were/are from Germany. So I'm not sure what even means.

2. Cuban is a billionaire in several businesses that are mostly Jewish controlled, so yes, he's Jewish - the odds that he isn't Jewish are overwhelming.

3. The name Nowitzki sounds very Jewish Polish to me, and sure does not sound German to me. Like I said, maybe I'm wrong, but I really don't think so though.

So I am asking then, going by the premise of the topic's first post.....does that mean that 2011 finals were also rigged?

Rose
05-21-2014, 05:16 AM
Free SPK

Euroleague
05-21-2014, 05:22 AM
That series was poorly officiated, to say the least, and in many fans' minds, it comes if not with an asterisk, then with a basic awareness that something was "not entirely right". Rigged? Difficult to prove. I felt the Mavs still could've won the series despite the bad calls they kept getting, though, so they can only blame themselves I suppose.

(Also, am I the only one who finds Euroleague's little Nazi aside just a bit creepy?)

The first post is the one suggesting two Jew haters against Cuban and Dirk because they wanted to promote LeBron. I'm saying that Cuban and Dirk are possibly also Jews, and he's denying that.

Learn to read idiot.

Euroleague
05-21-2014, 05:23 AM
Nowitzki sounds polish to me

Are you suggesting that no Jews are Polish?