Official Kevin Durant Turnovers Per Game in playoffs HISTORY WATCH

[tmacattack33]

Over the course of NBA history, only 12 times has anybody averaged at least 4 turnovers per game, with a minimum of 15 games played.

Currently, after tonight's game (G1 WCF vs the Spurs) in which he had 6 turnovers, Kevin Durant is averaging 4.1 turnovers per game (and only 4.3 assists).

Link: http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=single&type=totals&per_minute_base=36&lg_id=NBA&is_playoffs=Y&year_min=&year_max=&franch_id=&season_start=1&season_end=-1&age_min=0&age_max=99&height_min=0&height_max=99&shoot_hand=&birth_country_is=Y&birth_country=&is_active=&is_hof=&is_as=&as_comp=gt&as_val=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&qual=&c1stat=tov_per_g&c1comp=gt&c1val=4&c2stat=g&c2comp=gt&c2val=15&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&c5stat=&c5comp=gt&c6mult=1.0&c6stat=&order_by=ws

Also of note is that most the players in that list were major distributors like Magic Johnson who were getting getting at least 8 assists per game. Kevin Durant is currently only averaging 4.3 assists per game.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

fake MVP:coleman: :facepalm

[DMAVS41]

His lack of playmaking and his inability to consistently make the correct play against the defense (often single coverage) has really hurt the Thunder so far.

[BlkMambaGOAT]

:lebronamazed:
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[tmacattack33]

The funniest out of all of this is that in many of these turnovers that KD has been getting... what is his reaction?

He looks at the ref for a foul call, knowing damn well that Tony Allen or Kawhi Leonard picked his pocket cleanly. :oldlol:

[LoneyROY7]

Dat 1:1 assist-to-turnover ratio. :bowdown:

[AnaheimLakers24]

heat gona get swept :lol

[Brizzly]

Also of note is that most the players in that list were major distributors like Magic Johnson who were getting getting at least 8 assists per game. Kevin Durant is currently only averaging 4.3 assists per game.

Al Z averaged 1.1 apg
Shawn Kemp 1.5
Walter Davis 5 apg
KG 5 apg

Not to mention the fact that he is playing close to 45 minutes.

[Thorn]

lol @ shawn kemp going for 30 assists compared to 80 turnovers and Alonzo going for 18 assists to 70 turnovers

dat ratio

also lol @ kemp picking up more fouls than turnovers

[tmacattack33]

Al Z averaged 1.1 apg
Shawn Kemp 1.5
Walter Davis 5 apg
KG 5 apg

Not to mention the fact that he is playing close to 45 minutes.

Yes that's a lot of minutes...which should allow him to get more than 4.3 assists per game right

[Relinquish]

Yes that's a lot of minutes...which should allow him to get more than 4.3 assists per game right

As the MVP nonetheless, that is absolutely true. :applause:

[Brizzly]

Yes that's a lot of minutes...which should allow him to get more than 4.3 assists per game right

He is a scorer, a helluva a good one and thus his main focus on every attack is to put the basket in the hoop. But the year by year improvements to his playmaking has been very impressive. Obviously it is still not great but most of the reason to as why he does not have a lot of apg is because him not being a great slasher and when he attacks his mind is 100 % set on scoring.

You guys are talking about a 6'10 guy that is expected to be not only the best scorer but also a LeBron like playmaker.

[DMAVS41]

Al Z averaged 1.1 apg
Shawn Kemp 1.5
Walter Davis 5 apg
KG 5 apg

Not to mention the fact that he is playing close to 45 minutes.


Can't have it both ways to the bold. Part of the reason Durant's raw numbers look way better than how he's actually played is because he's playing so many minutes.

[navy]

Durant's play making is atrocious.

[Brizzly]

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Can't have it both ways to the bold. Part of the reason Durant's raw numbers look way better than how he's actually played is because he's playing so many minutes.

So? he is still getting 31 ppg on above average percentages while also having a team that does not even have on single play in the playbook. They are roaming freely on every attack and when shit hits the fan ball goes to either Durant or Russ.

31/10/4

that is ****ing amazing no matter how many minutes, especially considering he had to go through Grizzlies.

Against the Clipps durant put up 33/9.5/5.3/1.2/1 47%/37%/88%

That is otherworldly. But Gr

[DMAVS41]

So? he is still getting 31 ppg on above average percentages while also having a team that does not even have on single play in the playbook. They are roaming freely on every attack and when shit hits the fan ball goes to either Durant or Russ.

31/10/4

that is ****ing amazing no matter how many minutes, especially considering he had to go through Grizzlies.

Against the Clipps durant put up 33/9.5/5.3/1.2/1 47%/37%/88%

That is otherworldly. But Gr

the fact that he has a team that doesn't have plays helps him put up numbers though.

give him a real coach and system and he'd be a better player, but his numbers would be worse.

i'm not saying he's playing poorly overall...obviously he isn't. he has wet the bed in crucial games though, but that is a different argument.

this is about his inability to make the right basketball plays frequently throughout these playoffs so far.

durant is being judged on new standards that are set by his fans and winning the MVP. and he's essentially been singled throughout the playoffs and to be honest i'm not that impressed to date. in this NBA with the kind of soft rules we have...playing 45 mpg as a superstar in your prime going against single coverage with a guy like WB able to carry a huge load himself...

Just going to get monster numbers playing pick up basketball out there.

I'm not blaming Durant if the Thunder lose. That isn't what is going on here....but sometimes the star player has to step up and have a dominant series and carry his team through the tough games. So far that hasn't been Durant...he's been the one carried in the tough/biggest games so far.

It's like tonight. He played pretty well overall for the most part, but he wasn't great. And if he wants to win...he's going to have to be great. Just like any other player that won the title while not having an absurd amount of help. Durant these last two years now with the WB injury and Ibaka injury is getting a lesson in how most other guys in history have had it. Not all stars had loaded teams like it seems so many fans just get used to in this era.

Again, I think Durant so far in the playoffs has been fine...but I think the fact that he's been singled and really struggles to make plays and make his teammates better is a legit criticism.

[Mr. Incredible]

Numbers don't lie

[Brizzly]

the fact that he has a team that doesn't have plays helps him put up numbers though.

That is in the regular season where you can run and gun and get a positive result at the end of the night, but in the playoffs, a working system is what pays the bills in the playoffs.


give him a real coach and system and he'd be a better player, but his numbers would be worse.

I mean sure his scoring might drop some, but his numbers and percentages should improve across the board.


i'm not saying he's playing poorly overall...obviously he isn't. he has wet the bed in crucial games though, but that is a different argument.


He is struggling in the end of games, which only proves why a system is so important in the playoffs, fourth quarter, last minutes everyone is locked and loaded. And a team like Spurs always makes you work for your buckets, no easy baskets in the fourth.


this is about his inability to make the right basketball plays frequently throughout these playoffs so far.


It is hard to make the right basketball play when you have 4 players just standing in a corner while one player is supposed to dribble and drive. It doesn't work in the long run.


durant is being judged on new standards that are set by his fans and winning the MVP. and he's essentially been singled throughout the playoffs and to be honest i'm not that impressed to date. in this NBA with the kind of soft rules we have...playing 45 mpg as a superstar in your prime going against single coverage with a guy like WB able to carry a huge load himself...



Just because he is getting defended by one player does not mean he sucks, Spurs is a very cohesive team with great defense, they close down him and WEstbrook as soon as they make a move to the basket.

And he is playing 45 minutes because they don't have a lot of other options, the reason they don't have a lot of options is because ] The system that they are running in OKC makes it hard for role players to excel in ( look at Spurs to see their counterpart), as we have already established they go one and one and take the first best opportunity to score, but role players that can't create their own shot becomes worthless.
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[Brizzly]

Durant isn't a great playermaker by any means, but it doesn't help that he has 2 offensive liabilities (3 tonight) in the starting lineup and the defense is just completely ignoring them, the spacing is poor aswell. Not to mention brooks is a moron.

Also this, Adams, Perks, Collison, Thabo all getting minutes while barley being able to score.

[Ancient Legend]

I think he used to be a better at distributing the ball last season without Westbrook in the playoffs, and this year too when Russ was out.

Nowadays when you double team him at the top of the key, he usually makes a very bad pass.

[Graviton]

His ball handling/security is very mediocre. Ever since he tries to be more like Lebron and make those flashy passes he has been screwing up. There is a reason why Westbrook handles the ball more often, and even he isn't that great at limiting turnovers. But Durant makes Westbrook look like Steve Nash, that's how bad it is.

Dude needs to stop forcing passes and dribbling so carelessly, guys like Kawhi/Allen snatch the ball from him rather easily.

[J Shuttlesworth]

4.2 is the final count :applause:

[Hoopz2332]

Durant trying to be playmaker-passer like Lebron but f'ing up:lol