Someone explain the Wiggins and Parker hype for me

[Akrazotile]

I don't watch much college ball so I have virtually no familiarity with these guys other than highlights and hearsay.

But I don't see why anyone thinks these guys are legit "fortune changers" in this league. They're wing players, and clearly don't have the physical tools to ever be on the level of a Lebron, or the length to me the matchup problem KD is. So what are teams expecting out of them, exactly? Paul George? Rudy Gay? Carmelo? Michael Beasley? Pierce? Tmac? Joe Johnson? These are pretty much what you get when you build around an athletic/scoring wing players. Not exactly a recipe for success. Yeah some of them are decent players, but none are reasons to believe it's smooth sailing from here if you win them in the lottery. Yet every year players like that get drafted and fans think it's the first step to a dynasty.

As we're seeing in the playoffs, if you don't play team ball, you're not going that far. How easily Wiggins and Parker can score the basketball in college really has no bearing on what they'll do as NBA players. It's hard to really effect the NBA game from the SF position by scoring. Look at the empty stats Melo puts up, and other perimeter type players like Love and Joe Johnson. These guys get max deals and give you nothign meaningful.

Unless you have a SF like Bird or Lebron, putting your salary cap $$ into that position is fools gold, especially in the new CBA. I don't see why teams are that excited to potentially get these guys. The odds are very low either of these guys will be good on a historical level to the point that you can really center a title team around them. Not saying it can't happen, but it's really unlikely.

[Fudge]

OP the type of guy that cries before he cut the onion

[Doctor Rivers]

1 star thread

[riseagainst]

is OP mad that they going to be better than his idol?

[Akrazotile]

OP the type of guy that cries before he cut the onion


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[Peteballa]

Not that impressed by Wiggins, but Jabari is a monster. Dude is just so, so talented on the offensive end.

[rufuspaul]

They have the potential to be stars in the league but whether they will is yet to be seen. That's the big problem with the "one and done" of college basketball today. Once in a lifetime you get a LeBron who comes out of the womb ready to dominate, but most of the time these kids need to be coached up and gain experience and maturity before you know if they've got what it takes to be an NBA star. The press likes to create hype and fans love to speculate on who will be the next Jordan, LeBron, Kobe, etc., but no one really knows until they've been league tested for a few seasons.

[ralph_i_el]

Why draft anyone unless they'll be a top 10 all time player:facepalm
you'd be a great GM

[Im so nba'd out]

they will automatically add 10 extra wins to whoever draft them not alot of rookies can do that.

[Smook A.]

Jabari Parker is a very talented offensive player. He's very versatile. He can post-up and shoot from anywhere. Jabari will be a Paul Pierce, Carmelo Anthony hybrid if he reaches his full potential

Andrew Wiggins is extremely athletic. He's a young guy and if he develops a jumper and hits the gym a litle more then he can be very special in the NBA. Scouts have compared him to Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady, DeMar DeRozan, Rudy Gay and even Scottie Pippen.

[TheReal Kendall]

They're mixed

[Doranku]

Why no mention of guys like Kobe or Wade?

You think a player of prime Kobe/Wade's caliber is "fools gold" in the current NBA?

[Black and White]

OP is the type to draft Anthony Bennett or Kwame Brown

[tmacattack33]

Stopped reading when you implied that T-mac and Michael Beasley are on the same level.

[Akrazotile]

OP is the type to draft Anthony Bennett or Kwame Brown


No, Michael Jordan is that type. Hes also the type to say "Kobe > Lebron".

And everyone here missed my point. Of course youre gonna draft these guys if you get the pick, but the excitement and expectations seem drastically disproportionate to what theyre likely to actually do for a franchise.

[AnaheimLakers24]

op sucks many dick

[LBJ4MVP23]

No one player, including Bird, MAgic, Lebron, Jordan, Russel, etc. ever won it alone. But you need to start somewhere and if its not a great big, then a great SF is the next best thing.

[Nastradamus]

Wiggins definitely has some work to do,but he has elite athleticism, he already plays great defense and he has some very good offensive skills. Solid 3 point shooting which should improve and he's a nightmare in transition. He has to work on his ball handling and assertiveness.

I think he could be anything from Trevor Ariza(making him a bust obviously based on the hype, draft position etc.) to prime Marion to prime Mcgrady.

Parker is a damn good talent too. He'll probably never be much of a defender and you worry a bit that he can't stay in shape, but the comparisons to Pierce and Melo(as a prospect) are pretty legit. Could also be Rudy Gay

[noob cake]

Wiggins definitely has some work to do,but he has elite athleticism, he already plays great defense and he has some very good offensive skills. Solid 3 point shooting which should improve and he's a nightmare in transition. He has to work on his ball handling and assertiveness.

I think he could be anything from Trevor Ariza(making him a bust obviously based on the hype, draft position etc.) to prime Marion to prime Mcgrady.

Parker is a damn good talent too. He'll probably never be much of a defender and you worry a bit that he can't stay in shape, but the comparisons to Pierce and Melo(as a prospect) are pretty legit. Could also be Rudy Gay

Wiggins bust potential is a Corey Brewer (they share the exact same skill set right now, for a 19 year old Wiggins at least). His most likely case is Rudy Gay. His absolute best case is Julius Erving.

Wiggins will never ever become TMac. His handles are way off. His basketball IQ and vision won't ever be close.