Skip Bayless spitting the truth about KD/Westbrook

[Cocaine80s]

Skip Bayless ‏@RealSkipBayless 44m
LeBron/DWade win w/o shotblocking center. So did MJ/Pippen. So why do KD/RW miss Ibaka so much? Those 2 don't play great D.



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[Marchesk]

Uh, MJ/Pippen had Grant or Rodman.

Durant/Wade have Bosh.

Grant, Rodman, Bosh >>> Ibaka

[navy]

The Heat have a great defensive system, the bulls had great individual centers.

[Ancient Legend]

It's not just defense, KD and Russ have zero offensive chemistry between them. the other duos like MJ-Pip and Bron-Wade take advantage of each other's strenghts and play a more collective game.

How many times do you see Westbrook drive and dish to KD, or an alley between them? They just take turns isoing.

[inclinerator]

Uh, MJ/Pippen had Grant or Rodman.

Durant/Wade have Bosh.

Grant, Rodman, Bosh >>> Ibaka

:wtf:

-smak

[CavaliersFTW]

journalist fluff that has nothing to do with understanding the complexities of basketball

[Black and White]

Uh, MJ/Pippen had Grant or Rodman.

Durant/Wade have Bosh.

Grant, Rodman, Bosh >>> Ibaka

:biggums:

[Warfan]

The heat have a very good defensive scheme that is heavily reliant on lebron, wade and bosh. Chicago had a good interior defender in horace and then rodman, and scottie & mj are 2 of the best perimeter defenders ever (along with harper which added to the already great perimeter defense). KD and Russ do have to play better on D tho.

[steve]

You know, we saw how well the Heat played without Bosh two years ago. We never saw how the Bulls played without Grant or Rodman/Kukoc when it really mattered. Truth is the Thunder are missing a vitally important player to their system and it's really annoying when someone who knows jack about basketball suggests a team shouldn't miss a beat with that player's absence. Ibaka's an exceptionally good player and hopefully now people have a better idea of that (the Skip Baylesses of the work won't of course, but then they never really matter in the first place).

[oarabbus]

It's not just defense, KD and Russ have zero offensive chemistry between them. the other duos like MJ-Pip and Bron-Wade take advantage of each other's strenghts and play a more collective game.

How many times do you see Westbrook drive and dish to KD, or an alley between them? They just take turns isoing.


This guy gets it.

[Cocaine80s]

You know, we saw how well the Heat played without Bosh two years ago. We never saw how the Bulls played without Grant or Rodman/Kukoc when it really mattered. Truth is the Thunder are missing a vitally important player to their system and it's really annoying when someone who knows jack about basketball suggests a team shouldn't miss a beat with that player's absence. Ibaka's an exceptionally good player and hopefully now people have a better idea of that (the Skip Baylesses of the work won't of course, but then they never really matter in the first place).
are you serious? They almost lost to the celtics without him. He played a big role in the last 2 games of the series

[steve]

are you serious? They almost lost to the celtics without him. He played a big role in the last 2 games of the series

That's exactly what I meant. When you take a title contenders third best player away and expect them to keep playing at a contender level is just a ridiculous assumption to make.

[Genaro]

One thing is: A team don't have a shot blocker since the beginning of the year so they can build a defensive scheme around that weakness. Like Miami did with a heavy trapping defense.
The other thing is: Your defensive scheme is ready and running and you lose a key component just before the conference finals

Skip Bayless is talking shit as usual. And BTW Bulls had Grant and Rodman as people said.

[VengefulAngel]

One thing is: A team don't have a shot blocker since the beginning of the year so they can build a defensive scheme around that weakness. Like Miami did with a heavy trapping defense.
The other thing is: Your defensive scheme is ready and running and you lose a key component just before the conference finals

Skip Bayless is talking shit as usual. And BTW Bulls had Grant and Rodman as people said.

The Heat's trapping defense requires a huge amount of effort, and they now have some interior defense with Birdman who's averaging 1.5 blocks per game.

[Cocaine80s]

That's exactly what I meant. When you take a title contenders third best player away and expect them to keep playing at a contender level is just a ridiculous assumption to make.
oh my bad lol :facepalm

[Graviton]

Defense isn't the issue, OKC's nonexistent bench is. Westbrook/Durant can play DPOY caliber defense on top of 70 points, they still wouldn't win against this Spurs team.

Ibaka's defense isn't the only thing missing, Westbrook/Ibaka pick n roll/pop is gone. This means no more easy lanes to the basket, no more mid range jumpers that kept the defense honest, and now Durant has to handle the ball more which leads to more turnovers. Ibaka getting injured completely screwed over both their offense and defense. All that has nothing to do with the individual defense of Westbrook and Durant, Skip as usual deflecting to a totally irrelevant point without analyzing what's truly missing.


He could talk about Scott's lack of adjustments, heavy ISO offense, completely retarded rotations and lineups. But no he rather talk about the defense of perimeter players that have to waste 90% of their energy scoring 80% of team's points. :oldlol:

[Milbuck]

It really wouldn't matter either way if Westbrook and Durant learned to play off each other offensively, as well as off their teammates. There comes a point where you have 2 guys that are so ****ing gifted, so supremely talented offensively that everything else becomes just a bit less significant. Interior defense and shot blocking are obviously important, but if WB/KD had just a fraction of the chemistry Pippen/MJ, Wade/Lebron, Kobe/Shaq (on-court chemistry) had, all this defense and shot blocking talk would be totally irrelevant. You have your superstar scoring SF trying to play an all-around game when he should be playing to his strengths...scoring. You have a superstar PG trying to do what the scoring SF should do, instead of doing what he should do...running the offense for the whole, not the self. They have championship potential right in front of them but they're too blind to see it, and that's a damn shame.

[Cocaine80s]

It really wouldn't matter either way if Westbrook and Durant learned to play off each other offensively, as well as off their teammates. There comes a point where you have 2 guys that are so ****ing gifted, so supremely talented offensively that everything else becomes just a bit less significant. Interior defense and shot blocking are obviously important, but if WB/KD had just a fraction of the chemistry Pippen/MJ, Wade/Lebron, Kobe/Shaq (on-court chemistry) had, all this defense and shot blocking talk would be totally irrelevant. You have your superstar scoring SF trying to play an all-around game when he should be playing to his strengths...scoring. You have a superstar PG trying to do what the scoring SF should do, instead of doing what he should do...running the offense for the whole, not the self. They have championship potential right in front of them but they're too blind to see it, and that's a damn shame.
imagine if you gave russell KD's body :lebronamazed:

[oarabbus]

imagine if you gave russell KD's body :lebronamazed:


Or if you gave KD WB's mentality.

[Nash]

Miami did beat Indiana without Bosh in 2012 with the useless Haslem, Juwan Howard, Turiaf and Joel Anthony..

[VengefulAngel]

Miami did beat Indiana without Bosh in 2012 with the useless Haslem, Juwan Howard, Turiaf and Joel Anthony..

Heat struggled, we've only seen one game so far.

[russwest0]

if you share skip bayless's tweets then you are part of the problem

[russwest0]

Miami did beat Indiana without Bosh in 2012 with the useless Haslem, Juwan Howard, Turiaf and Joel Anthony..

And OKC could easily beat Indiana without Ibaka. Westbrook always owns Hill and Durant always owns George and Hibbert usually doesn't do shit vs Perkins.

Skip believes that the Spurs will beat whoever comes out of the East but now that OKC without Ibaka lost one game to them he's acting like it was all Westbrook and Durants fault :facepalm

[Cocaine80s]

And OKC could easily beat Indiana without Ibaka. Westbrook always owns Hill and Durant always owns George and Hibbert usually doesn't do shit vs Perkins.

Skip believes that the Spurs will beat whoever comes out of the East but now that OKC without Ibaka lost one game to them he's acting like it was all Westbrook and Durants fault :facepalm
lance dropped a triple dub against you guys last game. and the pacers won...

[andremiller07]

People are acting like Ibaka is a superstar, the reality is everyone outside of WB and Durrant on OKC is at best a aversge player or below average. None of those guys aside from Ibaka would start on any other playoff team.

There role players are shit and without the refs bailing them out in the first two rounds don't even deserve to be playing the Spurs. Thabo has regressed insane, Adams is meh at best, Lamb everyone was hyping what's he doing?

The Warriors without there PF last year beat the Nuggets and pushed the Spurs in the 2nd round and also pushed the Clippers this year to 7 without Bogut.

The Thunder next season need 2-3 quality role players not just glorified scrubs like they got now.

[russwest0]

I believe OKC has won like 5 of their last 6 vs the Pacers or some shit like that.

[Nash]

And OKC could easily beat Indiana without Ibaka. Westbrook always owns Hill and Durant always owns George and Hibbert usually doesn't do shit vs Perkins.

Skip believes that the Spurs will beat whoever comes out of the East but now that OKC without Ibaka lost one game to them he's acting like it was all Westbrook and Durants fault :facepalm
I do not believe they'd beat Indiana without Ibaka. Lebron took care of David West in defence, would Durant be able to do something like that? I'll guess that is a NO.

Miami also got through Boston with a not-so-healthy Bosh.

[russwest0]

the pacers and thunder don't play eachother 4 times a year dipshit

lol edit: that clown deleted his post

also is a ******* who wont change his avy

[NumberSix]

Skip Bayless is the George W. Bush of sports media.

[Solefade]

if you share skip bayless's tweets then you are part of the problem


ignore who says it and focus on what's being said...is it not true? :confusedshrug:



i'll give them the benefit of the doubt though...scott brooks got enough talent he just doesn't know how to utilize it

[Hey Yo]

I started :roll: after I read "Skip Bayless spitting the truth"

[Nash]

the pacers and thunder don't play eachother 4 times a year dipshit

lol edit: that clown deleted his post

also is a ******* who wont change his avy
so angry.

still, god luck getting durant to defend west the way lebron did without their PF available.

[Cocaine80s]

Russwest having another meltdown?

******* i hope you leave ish for good once the thunder get swept

[Springsteen]

dennis rodman? god *** skip bayless