So now that we got Jack shit, what's the plan fellas?

[ZMonkey11]

All our hopes for what-ifs and a new solid young core are but a distant memory.

Shall we send out a petition to the Detroit FO to get rid of Jennings and Smith? Send em to Boston for Rondo!

[dd24]

I'm not so sure Boston would go for that. I think all of us would like to move Smith before Monroe. I think Monroe is the only person that can bring us anything that can help. That puts the front office in a tough spot. I feel like they have to sign Monroe and hope they can pull off a trade at some point. Missing on this pick really sets us back, plus it probably means Monroe will be on his way out. Every year the draft lottery hasn't went in our favor, somehow it always does for Cleveland though.

[Aussie Dunker]

As much as I prefer Monroe over Smith - I believe that Smith would work far better with Rondo than Monroe would... To further that, I think Smith would fit nicely at PF next to Dre at C - would give us the most athletic front-court outside of the Clippers, and we would be a beast on defense... And Rondo likes to get out and run an up tempo offense which would suit both of those cats, not so much Monroe who prefers a slower brand of ball...

So in saying that, I could live with a Monroe + Jennings for Rondo based deal... Our defense both perimeter and interior would be insane...

[Aussie Dunker]

But what is next - we now NEED players to step up. We need a STRONG training camp, STRONG leadership and STRONG mentoring / coaching. We NEED Jennings to play smarter bball and make everyone around him better. We NEED KCP to step up and become a solid starter in this league with his defense and shooting which I am hoping he is working on as we speak. We NEED players like Siva, Luigi, Jerebko, Mitchell - to grow from fringe roster players to serviceable rotation players. We NEED JVG to live up to his 35 million dollar contract. And most importantly - we NEED Drummond to become the unquestioned premiere Centre in this league,

All of this won't happen, heck, half of this probably wont even happen, but this is what I think we should be aiming for...

[dd24]

Rondo is clearly a better PG than Jennings so it's for sure an upgrade that is probably enough to get the Pistons into the playoffs. The problem with a lineup that has Rondo, Smith, and Drummond is none of them can shoot. I feel like the perfect PG for this team is someone who can at least hit an outside shot. In Boston they had Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and KG. They can all shoot.

[dd24]

But what is next - we now NEED players to step up. We need a STRONG training camp, STRONG leadership and STRONG mentoring / coaching. We NEED Jennings to play smarter bball and make everyone around him better. We NEED KCP to step up and become a solid starter in this league with his defense and shooting which I am hoping he is working on as we speak. We NEED players like Siva, Luigi, Jerebko, Mitchell - to grow from fringe roster players to serviceable rotation players. We NEED JVG to live up to his 35 million dollar contract. And most importantly - we NEED Drummond to become the unquestioned premiere Centre in this league,

All of this won't happen, heck, half of this probably wont even happen, but this is what I think we should be aiming for...

Siva, Luigi, Jerebko, and Mitchell are what they are. Siva really isn't even going to survive in the NBA. The only reason he's on a team is because he was a 2nd round pick and that makes for a cheap contract. KCP is the person we really have to hope makes leaps and bounds. Last year he looked like a bust. We really need to cross our fingers with him. Luckily, SG is a position that usually takes a few years before they really start producing. There's still hope with him.

[Aussie Dunker]

Siva, Luigi, Jerebko, and Mitchell are what they are. Siva really isn't even going to survive in the NBA. The only reason he's on a team is because he was a 2nd round pick and that makes for a cheap contract. KCP is the person we really have to hope makes leaps and bounds. Last year he looked like a bust. We really need to cross our fingers with him. Luckily, SG is a position that usually takes a few years before they really start producing. There's still hope with him.

KCP is still extremely young, he has all the tools to pan out into a solid starter, just need to train hard and dedicate himself to the cause - in which I have been extremely impressed with his attitude and work ethic with every interview I have seen of him..

Siva is terrible, I will be very surprised if he works out, same with Lugi - I think the game is just a little too fast for him...

But I do think the other 2 mentioned have a real chance at being serviceable. Jerebko has already proved his worth, he has hustle and range, makes for a handy stretch 4 off the bench. Mitchell was a first round talent - still very young, but showed flashes of his athleticism and defense in very limited minutes.

[dd24]

Siva is terrible, I will be very surprised if he works out, same with Lugi - I think the game is just a little too fast for him...

But I do think the other 2 mentioned have a real chance at being serviceable. Jerebko has already proved his worth, he has hustle and range, makes for a handy stretch 4 off the bench. Mitchell was a first round talent - still very young, but showed flashes of his athleticism and defense in very limited minutes.

Yeah, Luigi has no place in the league. Serviceable isn't what we need right now. We need stars. I like Mitchell and I've always liked Jerebko. They're nothing more than bench guys. The Pistons have much more to worry about than the bench. We need a core group to build around first. Right now there isn't one outside of Drummond.

[dd24]

Maybe we can do a Stuckey sign and trade to get back into the first round. I wouldn't mind still landing a guy like Stauskas or Hood. Although Stuckey has been our one go to scorer for quite a while so that would be a bummer in that sense. I just want to add another outside shooter. I feel like Stauskas would be a great fit on this team. He has good size and speed for his position, he handles the ball well, and shoots lights out. With everybody focusing on Dre he would knock down 3's.

[Aussie Dunker]

Yep I agree ^^ I personally ould like to move on fro Stuckey, our offense becomes so predictable when he is on the floor. He is good, but would like to move on... I wonder what the highest # pick we could get in return for him is?... I wouldn't have thought anything sub 18ish...

[Nastradamus]

You aren't getting a pick for Stuckey. You can't sign and trade until after the draft and Stuckey doesn't have enough value to trade for. Most teams that would have interest could just sign him outright.

[Aussie Dunker]

This is true, be interesting to see what kind of contract teams put to him...

[Nastradamus]

I'm betting some contender snags him to come off the bench and provide a little offense.

[Aussie Dunker]

^^ Would make perfect sense, now that he has matured a bit I think he could have a very productive 5 years ahead of him in that 6th man role... Perhaps a team like the Thunder, or even the Heat, would benefit from his scoring punch...

[Nastradamus]

Yah, he's basically a taller Reggie Jackson. He has a role somewhere

[embersyc]

Kings looking to trade the 8th pick for a veteran. Think we could convince them to take Smith or Jennings for it?

[dd24]

Kings looking to trade the 8th pick for a veteran. Think we could convince them to take Smith or Jennings for it?

I would think Jennings is definitely worth the 8th pick but then we wouldn't have a PG. There is no way Exum and Smart drop there. The Lakers are for sure drafting one of those guys at #7 is one of them are left. I don't think they could take on Smith's contract.

[dd24]

^^ Would make perfect sense, now that he has matured a bit I think he could have a very productive 5 years ahead of him in that 6th man role... Perhaps a team like the Thunder, or even the Heat, would benefit from his scoring punch...

He excelled as a 6th man here. I'm sure he could elsewhere. I'm just not sure we actually let him go yet. Without him we are thin at the guard position.

[Aussie Dunker]

^^ yeah but we can replace stuckey with our first round dra....... Damn it :( haha,

I have always thought that Glen Robinson III would turn out to be a better pro than college player, his range probably falls in the 18-28 bracket,

Actually I think a lot of good role players could be going in the late first round, would really like to try and make a move to get an early/mid 20's pick... What can we realistically offer for something of this value/?

[dd24]

Outside of trading Monroe, I'm not sure we have much for assets that we can move. I think teams would be interested in Bynum as part of the package, but we really need him as a backup. I think the best move might be no move at this point. This roster is really tough to do anything with. Gores and Joe D really messed up.

[dd24]

The Pistons have interest in Anthony Morrow, who I think would be an amazing fit here. He's a knock down 3 point shooter. We have really needed a shooter like that. I'd take him over Stuckey at this point. Stuckey is the better player, but Morrow seems like he would be a better fit.

[Aussie Dunker]

^^ Yep we need a player like Morrow - a true specialist from deep - would work well coming on for 13-17 minutes per game...

But I do think a move needs to be made, I think I will cry if we go in with Monroe AND Smith, it was just a disgusting fit - holding each other back and just playing congested basketball. And I KNOW neither will be willing to be a 6th man... I truly think one needs to go for Pistons to move forward..

[Nastradamus]

Kings looking to trade the 8th pick for a veteran. Think we could convince them to take Smith or Jennings for it?

Its actually quite possible they'd like Smith. They were rumored to have some interest last year and they want a defensive oriented, rim protecting 4 next to Demarcus Cousins. We'd have to take their bad contracts back though.

I think Smith for Landry,Derrick Williams and 8 is doable. Maybe we throw in Tony Mitchell or a future 2nd.

[Nastradamus]

Gotta look for cheap shooters and Morrow would be a good start. Fredette also intrigues me as a buy low option and I'd love to trade for Steve Novak. I love me some Patty Mills too

[dd24]

Gotta look for cheap shooters and Morrow would be a good start. Fredette also intrigues me as a buy low option and I'd love to trade for Steve Novak. I love me some Patty Mills too

I think Fredette just needs an opportunity in the right system too. He's no superstar obviously, but I feel like he can be a solid role player. I do like your scenario with the Kings too. I don't think Derrick Williams is a bust yet. I think he's just barely had an opportunity to play because he's always had good players in front of him. He can shoot outside fairly well too. I'd definitely take a chance on him.

[dd24]

This article sums things up well.
http://www.freep.com/article/20140523/sports03/305230084/1048/sports

This all comes down to poor leadership in the front office. Rookie mistakes from a rookie owner and a GM who made bad decisions. This team is going to need a miracle to contend anytime soon.

[Aussie Dunker]

If we can move Smith / Monroe for #8 + Williams that would be a great, great deal for us.

Williams SUITS and by all acconts like coming off the bench as that tweener forward, can play the 3 or 4, gives us a few different lineups we can play with... And still just 23 years old...

Would solve the log jam of starter quality big man we have, and give us depth off the bench and a chance to land a solid prospect....

We NEED to sign Jimmer, would work so well, he is the perfect player we should be targeting...