Chances Dante Exum goes #2?

[russwest0]

Was just thinking about this. Lets say Cleveland does the expected and takes Wiggins at #1, what are the chances Exum goes #2?

They already have their SF of the future in Giannis so Parker doesn't make a lot of sense and they have way too much invested into Larry Sanders to take Embiid who is a project big man himself.

Exum fits their team composition the best. A long, athletic combo guard to go alongside the frontcourt of Giannis/Henson/Sanders. If they draft him they'd be one of the longest teams in the league right up there with OKC and IND.

I know many are painting this draft as if Parker, Wiggins, and Embiid are 1a, 1b, and 1c so it'd be weird to see Exum jump above 2 of those guys, but it just makes sense for the Bucks.

[Fudge]

Brandon Knight
Giannis Antentoaesgp[asofasdfsapoop
Jabari Parker
John Henson
Larry Sanders

I forgot which Twitter i've seen it from, but it's pretty much confirmed that they're taking Parker.

[Magic731]

All I know is Exum will be the best player in this draft. Whichever team takes him will have struck gold. I think he goes at number 4 to the Magic. Magic will be contenders in two years thanks to it.

[russwest0]

Lmao @ Giannis at the 2.

Shit reminds me of KD playing the 2 while OKC still wanted to tank for Russ and Harden

[russwest0]

All I know is Exum will be the best player in this draft. Whichever team takes him will have struck gold. I think he goes at number 4 to the Magic. Magic will be contenders in two years thanks to it.

Not sure he'd fit in well alongside Oladipo. Both combo guards who project best as a PG in the NBA.

[Magic731]

Not sure he'd fit in well alongside Oladipo. Both combo guards who project best as a PG in the NBA.
I still see Oladipo as a shooting guard. Either way it's been well documented that they are friends so hopefully there wouldn't be any clashes there. I think if they can work it out between them mixing up who brings the ball up the court it could be a very dangerous and dynamic backcourt.

[Milbuck]

I've been saying this for a while, I would love Exum on the Bucks.

Brandon Knight gets clowned a lot for obvious reasons, but he's had a pretty good 3rd year at just 22 years old: 18/4/5/1 on 53% TS

I'll definitely take that. The problem is he's an undersized scorer being forced to play the point. He really doesn't have instincts, vision, or passing ability to be a traditional, full-time PG. That's why we need someone who has the size and skills of a 2, but also all the skills of a 1, which is pretty much Exum's game in a nutshell. Dude's flat out said he wants point guard duties in the NBA, and that's exactly what we need.

Giannis has also shown legit PG vision and passing ability, so he could definitely play some point-forward. If we spread the playmaking duties across those 3 guys, I think that would give us a pretty balanced perimeter core going forward. It would allow Knight slide into a more comfortable role of just scoring the basketball and guarding opposing point guards without the burden of having to feed everyone else.

My only problem is that we desperately need a long term presence in the post. Sanders's time here is limited, and Henson will never be a viable go-to scorer in the post. Which is why I also want Embiid if he's there at #2.

I would be fine with a core of Knight-Exum-Giannis, or Knight-Giannis-Embiid. Either core would be entirely 22 years old or younger, with a lot of upside.

[russwest0]

I still see Oladipo as a shooting guard. Either way it's been well documented that they are friends so hopefully there wouldn't be any clashes there. I think if they can work it out between them mixing up who brings the ball up the court it could be a very dangerous and dynamic backcourt.

Assuming the Magic follow the Sam Presti model, (since their GM is from OKC) I doubt they'll take Exum if he's even there. They'll be running so many analytics on which position provides the most value alongside an elite PG (what they will attempt to develop Oladipo into) on a championship team and it will likely return as a SF or big man so they'll go that direction.

If Exum goes ahead of you guys expect one of Embiid or Parker. Noah Vonleh is also in play with his elite wingspan but his height and size could be better for a PF.

[russwest0]

Damn, did anyone else know Brandon Knight was averaging that?

Not bad numbers at all but you have to wonder if they are inflated playing on a tanking team in a conference full of tanking teams.

[Magic731]

Assuming the Magic follow the Sam Presti model, (since their GM is from OKC) I doubt they'll take Exum if he's even there. They'll be running so many analytics on which position provides the most value alongside an elite PG (what they will attempt to develop Oladipo into) on a championship team and it will likely return as a SF or big man so they'll go that direction.

If Exum goes ahead of you guys expect one of Embiid or Parker. Noah Vonleh is also in play with his elite wingspan but his height and size could be better for a PF.
Maybe so but you have to remember the old rule of take the best player available. I know most people don't rate Exum as high as I do but I think it's obvious that after Embiid/Parker/Wiggins/Exum there is quite a large drop. Assuming the first three get taken Magic would be stupid to pass up on Exum who would be by far the best available player.

As far as Exum going at number 2 though, it all depends on what the Bucks see Giannis becoming. Is there any reason Parker couldn't play the four, if the Bucks had a defensive-minded centre such as Sanders?

[russwest0]

At the same time, if you think Parker is clearly the best player available you have to take him as well. If the Heat have taught us anything it's that positions aren't all that important anymore as long as you have the starpower.

I just think longterm you can't have Giannis at the 2. We saw it with Paul George in Indiana when he was younger. He played the 2 alongside Granger but whenever he played the 3 his numbers and production were far better.

Similar story for KD but he was only playing the 2 because either PJ Carlisemo was actually that stupid or OKC just wanted to tank.

[russwest0]

Building a contender through the draft is so damn hard. You have to draft around 3 stars who are all different positions and fit in well together with no problems between one another. And you have no more than like a 4-5 year window to do this.

Crazy as hell looking back on how easy OKC made it look and how everyone just acts like it was luck or some shit.

[oarabbus]

How fcuking stupid would a team be to draft a guy #2, who does not play in intl professional, or D1-level competition. People love to use the "short white guys" argument against Wilt... what do you think the collegiate Australian league looks like :facepalm

[BlazerRed]

How fcuking stupid would a team be to draft a guy #2, who does not play in intl professional, or D1-level competition. People love to use the "short white guys" argument against Wilt... what do you think the collegiate Australian league looks like :facepalm
This is my worry about him. Australian basketball is a joke.. Dude hasn't faced real competition for any long stretch of time.

[russwest0]

How fcuking stupid would a team be to draft a guy #2, who does not play in intl professional, or D1-level competition. People love to use the "short white guys" argument against Wilt... what do you think the collegiate Australian league looks like :facepalm

the hell does his competition have to do with why you'd draft him?

you could have thrown wiggins out there vs grade school kids and it still wouldn't have made him any less of a prospect

[Milbuck]

Damn, did anyone else know Brandon Knight was averaging that?

Not bad numbers at all but you have to wonder if they are inflated playing on a tanking team in a conference full of tanking teams.
His stats were definitely inflated because we sucked :oldlol:

It does show a lot of promise though. The dude has the potential to develop into a very nice #4 or even #3 scoring option. His stats are inflated right now but I could definitely see him in his prime, age 27-28, putting up those same stats on a good team.


Brandon Knight
Giannis Antentoaesgp[asofasdfsapoop
Jabari Parker
John Henson
Larry Sanders

I forgot which Twitter i've seen it from, but it's pretty much confirmed that they're taking Parker.
Love Jabari like I love all those Chicago guys (Wade, Rose, Davis) but I really hope they change their mind if your source is right. Jabari brings a lot of scoring, but we need a dominant 2-way post presence, or a legitimate passer/playmaker who can also play perimeter defense. Jabari is a terrific scoring, but brings none of the defense or passing we need. Just individual scoring. Won't be devastated if we picked him though, knowing that he should be an all-star.

[KDthunderup]

Compare his physical stats to this years Rookie of the year.

Exum: 6-6 in shoes, 6-9

[Milbuck]

[QUOTE=KDthunderup]Compare his physical stats to this years Rookie of the year.

Exum: 6-6 in shoes, 6-9

[KDthunderup]

Dude's combine physical stats are near identical to the GOAT MJ. He also seems to have a good head on his shoulders.

[toxicxr6]

Dude's got the perfect size and length to play and defend the 2, with the vision to play the 1. He's also got this lightning quick first step that pretty much no one can consistently stay with. He's such a unique prospect, I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up being far and away the best player of this draft.

there was also a medical report done a couple of months ago that i found online when i started reading about exum that showed that he hasnt finished growing yet... they think he could grow another inch

[Rose]

Free SPK

[Milbuck]

there was also a medical report done a couple of months ago that i found online when i started reading about exum that showed that he hasnt finished growing yet... they think he could grow another inch
Holy shit :oldlol:

If we draft him, we could potentially have a 6'7"-8" PG and a near 7' point forward. That duo could be one of the biggest matchup nightmares of all time. No team would have the pieces to guard that..

[toxicxr6]

Holy shit :oldlol:

If we draft him, we could potentially have a 6'7"-8" PG and a near 7' point forward. That duo could be one of the biggest matchup nightmares of all time. No team would have the pieces to guard that..

the kid has insane potential.. has a very rare combination of phyiscal assets..
lightning quick..
has as quick a first step as anyone has seen...
massive strides when he runs...
very tall for someone that can handle the ball and run an offense...
insanely long....
decent hops...
athletic..
people say his best trait is his high bball iq..
good passer with good vision...
his potential is as high as anyone

lets hope he lives upto it. not everyone does

could be the goat aussie

[NumberSix]

50/50.

He will or he won't.

[Magic731]

the kid has insane potential.. has a very rare combination of phyiscal assets..
lightning quick..
has as quick a first step as anyone has seen...
massive strides when he runs...
very tall for someone that can handle the ball and run an offense...
insanely long....
decent hops...
athletic..
people say his best trait is his high bball iq..
good passer with good vision...
his potential is as high as anyone

lets hope he lives upto it. not everyone does

could be the goat aussie
Doesn't really have tough competition.

[hahaitme]

He will get passed on and the teams that pass on him will regret it.

[Magic731]

He will get passed on and the teams that pass on him will regret it.
This. Although I'm not so sure he WILL get passed on. They will regret it though.

[Rubio2Gasol]

Any chance in hell Embiid slides to Boston if Cleveland don't take him?

[Eric Cartman]

Any chance in hell Embiid slides to Boston if Cleveland don't take him?

I think he isn't getting pass the Bucks. Way to much potential and will be going to a rebuilding franchise with no pressure to win now.