Are the spurs the deepest team in the league?

[All Net]

The amount of options they seem to have is endless. Even guys like Mills can give you 20 off the bench. We all saw what green did last year in the finals too. As old as the spurs big 3 are its their young guys who keep getting better and better.

[Verticality]

Yes and no. There are more talented benches, but those benches aren't coached as well.

[Real14]

Yes and no. There are more talented benches, but those benches aren't coached as well.
yup like tha queen's team.

[JohnFreeman]

Pop just knows how to utilize a bench

[sbw19]

Popovich plays his bench a lot of minutes to conserve his starters' energy. He sacrifices some games in the regular season in order to build his bench player's confidence and chemistry. Considering his methodology it's amazing how he wound up with the best record as well.

Other coaches might be better in certain aspects, but no one is anywhere near as complete as a coach: developing talent, building a team-focused culture, maintaining chemistry, motivating his players, x's & o's, managing minutes, subbing, reading the game and knowing when to take a timeout and how to adjust on the fly.

This Spurs team has very good depth, but Popovich (plus Buford) is the difference-maker.

[NumberSix]

OKC is.

[BlazerRed]

OKC is.
I know you're trolling but I don't think any team that plays Fisher extended minutes qualifies as stacked :lol

I think Clippers are more stacked top to bottom, Spurs second. Spurs are better coached though.

We are the least deep team in the league :(

[JonatanRey]

IMHO, they are a really deep team, right after Indiana and Clippers.

[Rubio2Gasol]

Is water wet?

[Bandito]

OKC is.
OKC is not but the Heat obviously is.

[Jlamb47]

IMHO, they are a really deep team, right after Indiana and Clippers.

indiana isnt deep. Clippers are deep but not like the spurs. Clippers have star power in CP3 and Griffin who can take over. Were a system where in crunch time we dont always use our best players.

[JellyBean]

Yeah between the Spurs and the Clippers. Holy crap!! The Clippers and Spurs pull a player off the bench and let that bench player go for 12-15 minutes and produce. That is deep right there.

[r15mohd]

OKC is not but the Heat obviously is.

on what merit? Ray Allen has been the only thing close to a consistent bench performer, maybe Birdman to a degree...Cole and Andersen going off last night is few and far between.

everyone else on the bench has yet to impress me...I expected WAY more from Beasley this season knowing he is in a no-pressure role, and could have somewhat of a green-light when given the chance to show his worth. failed that just as he fails drug tests :rolleyes:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

on what merit? Ray Allen has been the only thing close to a consistent bench performer, maybe Birdman to a degree...Cole and Andersen going off last night is few and far between.

everyone else on the bench has yet to impress me...I expected WAY more from Beasley this season knowing he is in a no-pressure role, and could have somewhat of a green-light when given the chance to show his worth. failed that just as he fails drug tests :rolleyes:
hes a non kobe fcktard
Heat are barely top 5 deepest teams. the bench is horseshit most of the time.
Spurs and OKC are the deepest teams by far.Spurs bench is just perfectly coached and OKC bench just random players who go off at any time.
they have someone going off all the time and Reggie Jackson has 13 PPG from the bench and already saved durants season a few times this post season.
then come the Clippers and Indiana and then the Heat:coleman:

[jzek]

Clippers are.

[SCdac]

Ginobili, Diaw, Belinelli, and Patty off the bench is insane. They could all be starters arguably. Throw in Baynes and that's a damn good bench. Lead the league in assists (44 apg from the bench).

[All Net]

Ginobili, Diaw, Belinelli, and Patty off the bench is insane. They could all be starters arguably. Throw in Baynes and that's a damn good bench. Lead the league in assists (44 apg from the bench).
Baynes has been impressive, surprised me.

[Jlamb47]

Ginobili, Diaw, Belinelli, and Patty off the bench is insane. They could all be starters arguably. Throw in Baynes and that's a damn good bench. Lead the league in assists (44 apg from the bench).


Pops system makes them real good

[SCdac]

Pops system makes them real good

I agree, but why didn't it work for De Colo? or Beno udrih? or Jackie Butler?

The point is, the Spurs are deep with great talent. Pop is working with a great pallet of colors, so to speak.

Ginobili --- great player in his own right, has Euroleague accolades
Diaw ------ great player before coming to SA
Belinelli --- solid player who played well for Chicago last season
Patty ------ professional who's bounced around overseas and for the Blazers
Baynes --- diamond in the rough, Spurs great scouting for sure

And credit to how much Parker, Manu, and Duncan free up the rest of the team.

[imdaman99]

I agree, but why didn't it work for De Colo? or Beno udrih? or Jackie Butler?

The point is, the Spurs are deep with great talent. Pop is working with a great pallet of colors, so to speak.

Ginobili --- great player in his own right, has Euroleague accolades
Diaw ------ great player before coming to SA
Belinelli --- solid player who played well for Chicago last season
Patty ------ professional who's bounced around overseas and for the Blazers
Baynes --- diamond in the rough, Spurs great scouting for sure

And credit to how much Parker, Manu, and Duncan free up the rest of the team.
Because those guys are not good defenders.

I'd like to say its 75% system, and 25% ability for the role players. If you are a 3 and D guy, you can play anywhere.

Obviously Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Kawhi, and Green could play anywhere. If anything, Pop is helping the Spurs afford Kawhi by keeping him grounded and not averaging something like 18-20 pts which he is well capable of doing.

[SCdac]

Because those guys are not good defenders.

I'd like to say its 75% system, and 25% ability for the role players. If you are a 3 and D guy, you can play anywhere.

Obviously Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Kawhi, and Green could play anywhere. If anything, Pop is helping the Spurs afford Kawhi by keeping him grounded and not averaging something like 18-20 pts which he is well capable of doing.

I agree defense is a part of it.

But Pop can only do so much. Give credit to Marco and Patty for putting in the individual effort (Belinelli was a solid defender for the Bulls too, and Patty is a flopping extraordinaire, he can really sell a foul going back to his international days).

Pop is working with a solid roster, much better than say 2009-2010. Instead of Matt Bonner starting Spurs now have Tiago, a defensive stalwart... instead of Richard Jefferson starting (who would become a ghost in the playoffs) Spurs now have Kawhi. Just improved all around. Got rid of headcases in DeJuan and Stephen Jackson.

Jamal Crawford won 6MOTY but Manu is arguably as good as him or better. Both of them could be starting on teams. Could definitely see some of the Spurs "bench players" starting.

[kshutts1]

As many people have pointed out, Spurs don't have the most talented bench but, as with the rest of the roster, the pieces fit together so flawlessly that each player is constantly in a position to succeed. Same can not be said of many (any?) other teams.

Clippers and Pacers both have, IMO, noticeably more talented bench units. Healthy Bulls (Rose starting) are up there, as is Brooklyn.

Also helps the Spurs that they have the best coach ever.

[SCdac]

As many people have pointed out, Spurs don't have the most talented bench but, as with the rest of the roster, the pieces fit together so flawlessly that each player is constantly in a position to succeed. Same can not be said of many (any?) other teams.

Clippers and Pacers both have, IMO, noticeably more talented bench units. Healthy Bulls (Rose starting) are up there, as is Brooklyn.

Also helps the Spurs that they have the best coach ever.

Luis Scola seems kinda like a bust for Indiana... or at least, he's not the scoring punch off the bench they were expecting.

Reg. season: 8 ppg (.47 FG%) / 5 rpg

Playoffs: 6 ppg (.42 FG%) / 3 rpg

Should have kept Granger too

[HylianNightmare]

Miami is so deep they don't even play oden and Beasley

[kshutts1]

Luis Scola seems kinda like a bust for Indiana... or at least, he's not the scoring punch off the bench they were expecting.

Reg. season: 8 ppg (.47 FG%) / 5 rpg

Playoffs: 6 ppg (.42 FG%) / 3 rpg

Should have kept Granger too
8/5 off the bench is not terrible at all, nor is 47% shooting. Didn't look up minutes.
Mahinmi (sp?) is a good backup C. Turner is a strong bench player. Watson can score. All very good bench players.

[Haymaker]

Instead of Matt Bonner starting Spurs now have Tiago, a defensive stalwart...

I would've never imagined Tiago being such a good defender. He really surprised many with his effort.

[SCdac]

Miami is so deep they don't even play oden and Beasley

Miami could win the championship being half asleep :oldlol:

[All Net]

Why do people think Pacers are deep?

They had to play all pretty much all their starters 40 mins last night for a reason.

[ArbitraryWater]

Miami is so deep they don't even play oden and Beasley

Actually thats just a huge mistake.. they got inferior players out there.

[nzahir]

Actually thats just a huge mistake.. they got inferior players out there.

Yup, why the hell does lewis get minutes over beasley or oden? And when battier is ice I would rather have in beasley or jones

[imdaman99]

I agree defense is a part of it.

But Pop can only do so much. Give credit to Marco and Patty for putting in the individual effort (Belinelli was a solid defender for the Bulls too, and Patty is a flopping extraordinaire, he can really sell a foul going back to his international days).

Pop is working with a solid roster, much better than say 2009-2010. Instead of Matt Bonner starting Spurs now have Tiago, a defensive stalwart... instead of Richard Jefferson starting (who would become a ghost in the playoffs) Spurs now have Kawhi. Just improved all around. Got rid of headcases in DeJuan and Stephen Jackson.

Jamal Crawford won 6MOTY but Manu is arguably as good as him or better. Both of them could be starting on teams. Could definitely see some of the Spurs "bench players" starting.
Yeah Belinelli and Mills are also very good defenders. See there's the explanation, everyone on the Spurs currently are very good 2-way players. You can't sag off anyone or they will kill you with 3s. You can't legitimately attack anyone on defense because almost all of them are good defenders. I actually think Parker is their weakest defender but he can be masked with great team defense around him.

Extremely well built with the right leadership. Compare that with OKC, who has barely 3 2-way players. They have 2 players in their starting lineup who you don't even have to cover in Sefolosha and Perkins. Their bench? Nothing but 1 way players with mostly bad defense. I don't see how they could beat the Spurs 4 times over a week and half.

[I<3NBA]

the funny thing about this is that people keep attributing this phenomena as the Spurs getting a player already ready-made.

this is the fallacy. to assume these role players came to the Spurs already good.

shouldn't it be the other way around? that coming to the Spurs are what made these players good?

why don't people wonder how San Antonio keeps producing good players anywhere they get them?

is it luck? is it scouting? is it just simply DAMN TEACHING?

i mean, how ****ing hard is it to understand that these players got good, because San Antonio made them good?

time was spent with them.

obviously, there would be exceptions. unteachable players. but mostly, if a player is teachable, SA will make them good.

IMO that's the only thing SA really does in scouting. look and see if a player can be taught. i don't think they give a rat's ass to measurements and ceiling possibilities unless they're looking at the next Tim Duncan.

[SCdac]

the funny thing about this is that people keep attributing this phenomena as the Spurs getting a player already ready-made.

this is the fallacy. to assume these role players came to the Spurs already good.

shouldn't it be the other way around? that coming to the Spurs are what made these players good?

why don't people wonder how San Antonio keeps producing good players anywhere they get them?

is it luck? is it scouting? is it just simply DAMN TEACHING?

i mean, how ****ing hard is it to understand that these players got good, because San Antonio made them good?

time was spent with them.

obviously, there would be exceptions. unteachable players. but mostly, if a player is teachable, SA will make them good.

IMO that's the only thing SA really does in scouting. look and see if a player can be taught. i don't think they give a rat's ass to measurements and ceiling possibilities unless they're looking at the next Tim Duncan.

Some of the players coming off the Spurs bench were proven commodities

[MavsSuperFan]

not really.

Pop is just the goat and knows how to max out what he has.