"Someone needs to police the world, US is that someone"

[NauruDude]

My friend from Louisville, Kentucky (Fried Chicken) just dropped this bomb.

:wtf:

[riseagainst]

dumb hill billy red neck incest hicks.

[Levity]

already taken care of

http://cinema-crazed.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/team-america-world-police-1168-16x9-large.jpg

[CeilingFan#1]

The problem with that thinking is that we police according to our own values, which don't fit everywhere. It really isn't a much different mindset from the Taliban. They go around the world doing what they think is best according to their own values as well.

[~primetime~]

The problem with that thinking is that we police according to our own values, which don't fit everywhere. It really isn't a much different mindset from the Taliban. They go around the world doing what they think is best according to their own values as well.
lettuce b reality...US values > taliban values

some countries need to get the fck out the stone age, not saying it's our job to get them there, but thinking that all "values" are equal is just flat out wrong

[~primetime~]

Also, every time the US has "policed" it has been in accordance to the UN aka "the rest of the world"

minus France lol

[oh the horror]

lettuce b reality...US values > taliban values

some countries need to get the fck out the stone age, not saying it's our job to get them there, but thinking that all "values" are equal is just flat out wrong




Honestly as a country, we don't even know collectively what our values even are most of the time though.

[~primetime~]

we know that evil oppressive dictatorships = bad

that's about all we try to "police" I think

[russwest0]

America! **** Yeah! Coming Again To Save The Mother ****ing Day Yeah!

[CeilingFan#1]

lettuce b reality...US values > taliban values

some countries need to get the fck out the stone age, not saying it's our job to get them there, but thinking that all "values" are equal is just flat out wrong

I agree with that, and most of the world does as well, but of course our values lead us to believe our values are greater.

[nightprowler10]

we know that evil oppressive dictatorships = bad

that's about all we try to "police" I think
So when are we invading Saudi Arabia?

[robert de niro]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQd7g565e2I

[zoom17]

So when are we invading Saudi Arabia?

Oil Without it that country would be useless.

[LexiKhan]

we know that evil oppressive dictatorships = bad

that's about all we try to "police" I think

:biggums: Supporting evil opressive dictatorships was a big part of USA foreign policy last century.

[oh the horror]

we know that evil oppressive dictatorships = bad

that's about all we try to "police" I think



I think we as a people know that. But does our government? As a poster already mentioned, sometimes we play the ill scratch your back and you scratch mine game with these groups.

[KeylessEntry]

we know that evil oppressive dictatorships = bad

that's about all we try to "police" I think
The US has absolutely zero problem with oppressive dictatorships as long as they are selling us resources and allowing our multinational corporations to conduct business within their borders. In the past we have overthrown democratically elected governments to install oppressive dictatorships on more than one occasion.

[MadeFromDust]

Murrca


grr grr grr

[Brizzly]

lettuce b reality...US values > taliban values

some countries need to get the fck out the stone age, not saying it's our job to get them there, but thinking that all "values" are equal is just flat out wrong

There is no right moral except our own moral.

[KingBeasley08]

The US has absolutely zero problem with oppressive dictatorships as long as they are selling us resources and allowing our multinational corporations to conduct business within their borders. In the past we have overthrown democratically elected governments to install oppressive dictatorships on more than one occasion.
This. tiddy has a pretty na

[~primetime~]

Yes I am aware that we aren't out to rid the world off oppressed nations, and I understand there is a certain degree of greed and corruption within the gov. But I do think oppressed nations are frowned upon by our gov, and by the citizens. You would also be naive to think the gov is 100% greed and corruption and that there is no care for the greater good.

[PHX_Phan]

Yes I am aware that we aren't out to rid the world off oppressed nations, and I understand there is a certain degree of greed and corruption within the gov. But I do think oppressed nations are frowned upon by our gov, and by the citizens. You would also be naive to think the gov is 100% greed and corruption and that there is no care for the greater good.

The ones making the decisions don't have to go overseas and do anything so they couldn't give two ****s about the fate of some oppressed peoples on the other side of the world.

The US is more like a bully than the world police.

[KeylessEntry]

Yes I am aware that we aren't out to rid the world off oppressed nations, and I understand there is a certain degree of greed and corruption within the gov. But I do think oppressed nations are frowned upon by our gov, and by the citizens. You would also be naive to think the gov is 100% greed and corruption and that there is no care for the greater good.


name one instance where the US has helped free an oppressed nation simply for the "greater good"

[~primetime~]

name one instance where the US has helped free an oppressed nation simply for the "greater good"
Does ww2 not count? Hitler's oppression?

So you are suggesting it is never about the greater good, always greed?

[KeylessEntry]

Does ww2 not count? Hitler's oppression?

So you are suggesting it is never about the greater good, always greed?

ww2 might count, but pearl harbor was the tipping point for that. we got involved because of japan, not because of what was happening in europe. anyway, us foreign policy changed a lot after ww2, we were fairly isolationist before that war, after that we started getting involved in places like korea and vietnam.

i wouldnt say it is always about "greed", I would say financial interests are almost always the primary reason

[Joshumitsu]

name one instance where the US has helped free an oppressed nation simply for the "greater good"

Never. The same old "war is good business/US involved in dirty wars" rhetoric has been used since the Spanish-American War. For legitimate reasons, undoubtedly.

But that doesn't mean the US's involvement in global affairs has NOT generated good in the long term.

For one, humanity is at its most peaceful point in history and it'd be fair to attribute much of this to the US being able to project its presence overseas.

Obviously, the US could've/should've chosen certain issues more carefully before getting involved but if the US wants to remain a superpower and keep the peace, it will need to remain THE key player.

[JohnFreeman]

America can't even win against Vietnamese rice farmers and rag heads with AK47's :facepalm

[~primetime~]

Every war is a different story and there are a lot of people in our gov involved for different reasons. The picture you guys paint is like our gov is run by a fckin Bond villain...or COBRA.

Mwahahahaha... We need money, our government salaries are too low... Kill whoever gets in or way!

[Akrazotile]

Never. The same old "war is good business/US involved in dirty wars" rhetoric has been used since the Spanish-American War. For legitimate reasons, undoubtedly.

But that doesn't mean the US's involvement in global affairs has NOT generated good in the long term.

For one, humanity is at its most peaceful point in history and it'd be fair to attribute much of this to the US being able to project its presence overseas.

Obviously, the US could've/should've chosen certain issues more carefully before getting involved but if the US wants to remain a superpower and keep the peace, it will need to remain THE key player.


This.

US keeps the general peace, AND takes some spoils for its trouble. That's just the way it is.


Nobody works for free.

[KeylessEntry]

Every war is a different story and there are a lot of people in our gov involved for different reasons. The picture you guys paint is like our gov is run by a fckin Bond villain...or COBRA.

Mwahahahaha... We need money, our government salaries are too low... Kill whoever gets in or way!

now that you mention it, donald rumsfeld and dick cheney would both make perfect bond villains. obama would not be half bad either.

[KingBeasley08]

US isn't good or evil. It just looks out for its interests. Iran had a democracy that we overthrew for a dictatorship because of relationships between the country. Saudi Arabia is one of the most fcked up countries in the world when it comes to human rights but they're one of our biggest allies

Not saying there's anything wrong with looking out for your interests, but lettuce not pretend that the US is actively trying to benefit the rest of the world

[Derka]

already taken care of

http://cinema-crazed.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/team-america-world-police-1168-16x9-large.jpg

F*CK YEAH!
SO LICK MY BUTT AND SUCK. ON. MY. BALLS.

[Derka]

US isn't good or evil. It just looks out for its interests. Iran had a democracy that we overthrew for a dictatorship because of relationships between the country. Saudi Arabia is one of the most fcked up countries in the world when it comes to human rights but they're one of our biggest allies

Not saying there's anything wrong with looking out for your interests, but lettuce not pretend that the US is actively trying to benefit the rest of the world

We threw Mossadegh out in Iran because he nationalized British oil interests. The Brits couldn't do the fighting themselves, so the CIA did it for them.