Robert_Shaww Top 20 Players of all time.

[robert_shaww]

1. Bill Russel
2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3. Michael Jordan
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Kobe Bryant
8. Hakeem Olajuwon
9. Oscar Robertson
10. Shaquille O

[Black and White]

Duncan 16th???


:biggums:

[Genaro]

Don't feed the troll

[Jlamb47]

Lol:lol

[pastis]

[QUOTE=robert_shaww]1. Bill Russel
2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3. Michael Jordan
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Kobe Bryant
8. Hakeem Olajuwon
9. Oscar Robertson
10. Shaquille O

[robert_shaww]

Duncan 16th???


:biggums:

i know.....I didnt put David Robinson for Duncan, because if Duncan is not in a Top 20, people will call me a Troll...and i dont want that.

[russwest0]

Not even that bad of a list.

Swap MJ and Russell, Swap Karl Malone and LeBron, swap Tim Duncan and Jerry West

[robert_shaww]

can u explain why russel 1. and mj 3rd?

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Jordan played with the greatest coach and greatest defensive player ever against old jazz, old sonics, old lakers, and weak teams like blazers or anti defense suns in the finals.

[pastis]

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Jordan played with the greatest coach and greatest defensive player ever against old jazz, old sonics, old lakers, and weak teams like blazers or anti defense suns in the finals.

ok, thats a point. but was russels era not weak?

[robert_shaww]

ok, thats a point. but was russels era not weak?

both weak era

[ArbitraryWater]

we have one poster talking to himself here... sad

[Cold soul]

we have one poster talking to himself here... sad


You probably know the feeling from personal experience. :lol

[Paul George 24]

[QUOTE=robert_shaww]1. Bill Russel
2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3. Michael Jordan
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Kobe Bryant
8. Hakeem Olajuwon
9. Oscar Robertson
10. Shaquille O

[Paul George 24]

i know.....I didnt put David Robinson for Duncan, because if Duncan is not in a Top 20, people will call me a Troll...and i dont want that.

hater :facepalm

[Paul George 24]

[QUOTE=robert_shaww]both weak era

[Paul George 24]

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Jordan played with the greatest coach and greatest defensive player ever against old jazz, old sonics, old lakers, and weak teams like blazers or anti defense suns in the finals.

sonics is old :facepalm

[kennethgriffin]

#1 Kareem Abdul Jabbar
#2 Michael Jordan
#3 Bill Russell
#4 Magic Johnson
#5 Wilt Chamberlain
#6 Kobe Bryant
#7 Larry Bird
#8 Shaquille O'neal
#9 Tim Duncan
#10 Hakeem Olajuwon
#11 Lebron James
#12 Oscar Robertson
#13 Elgin Baylor
#14 Jerry West
#15 Julius Erving
#16 Moses Malone
#17 Karl Malone
#18 Isiah Thomas
#19 Charles Barkley
#20 Bob Pettit
#21 John Havlicek
#22 Bob Cousy
#23 David Robinson
#24 John Stockton
#25 Scottie Pippen
#26 Dirk Nowitzki
#27 Kevin Garnett
#28 Willis Reed
#29 Rick Barry
#30 George Mikan

[JTatStarranch]

Jordan should be number 1

And Kobe is not in the top 10.

He's never won an MVP on a GOOD TEAM... meaning NEVER had a completel season where he wins MVP and leads a team to about 60 wins and in contention of title.


All the top 10 players should have that.

[JTatStarranch]

#1 Kareem Abdul Jabbar
#2 Michael Jordan
#3 Bill Russell
#4 Magic Johnson
#5 Wilt Chamberlain
#6 Kobe Bryant
#7 Larry Bird
#8 Shaquille O'neal
#9 Tim Duncan
#10 Hakeem Olajuwon
#11 Lebron James
#12 Oscar Robertson
#13 Elgin Baylor
#14 Jerry West
#15 Julius Erving
#16 Moses Malone
#17 Karl Malone
#18 Isiah Thomas
#19 Charles Barkley
#20 Bob Pettit
#21 John Havlicek
#22 Bob Cousy
#23 David Robinson
#24 John Stockton
#25 Scottie Pippen
#26 Dirk Nowitzki
#27 Kevin Garnett
#28 Willis Reed
#29 Rick Barry
#30 George Mikan



I saw Kareem get thoroughly owned a few times in the Playoffs. Once by Fo Fo Fo MR. Moses Malone... Completely out hustled him under the boards and out rebounded him along with 20ppg.

Also saw Hakeem and Sampson do a number on him once or twice.

[BlkMambaGOAT]

Jordan should be number 1

And Kobe is not in the top 10.

He's never won an MVP on a GOOD TEAM... meaning NEVER had a completel season where he wins MVP and leads a team to about 60 wins and in contention of title.


All the top 10 players should have that.
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[kennethgriffin]

I saw Kareem get thoroughly owned a few times in the Playoffs. Once by Fo Fo Fo MR. Moses Malone... Completely out hustled him under the boards and out rebounded him along with 20ppg.

Also saw Hakeem and Sampson do a number on him once or twice.


and?

those guys arent in competition with kareem all time

save the individual random matchup discussions for more comparable people

kareem has by far the most accomplished basketball resume


college goat
nba goat
basketball goat
most unstoppable offensive weapon
longest career
most points
most mvps ( back when they meant something - voted by players )
6 titles ( none from the wack 50's or 60's )


what more do you want

[JTatStarranch]

http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u407/deucebigalow1/r2gJ.png


I'm not clicking on it..

You'll have to explain by using your words
Use your mind

[JTatStarranch]

and?

those guys arent in competition with kareem all time

save the individual random matchup discussions for more comparable people

kareem has by far the most accomplished basketball resume


college goat
nba goat
basketball goat
most unstoppable offensive weapon
longest career
most points
most mvps ( back when they meant something - voted by players )
6 titles ( none from the wack 50's or 60's )


what more do you want

To not be owned by Hakeem, Moses and Sampson in head to head matchup.

It's the same reason why Shaq isn't ranked in the top 2 or 3.... Had he not been beaten by Hakeem so badly then he'd have 5 rings (1 rigged 06), but 5 Rings and 4 Finals MVP's.

[livinglegend]

The agree with #1 Russell, i dont know about the other ones.

[livinglegend]

Jordan should be number 1

And Kobe is not in the top 10.

He's never won an MVP on a GOOD TEAM... meaning NEVER had a completel season where he wins MVP and leads a team to about 60 wins and in contention of title.


All the top 10 players should have that.

Jordan should be number 1? :facepalm
All-time lists are subjective, there s no ''should be''.
He can put whoever he wants at #1.

[JTatStarranch]

Jordan should be number 1? :facepalm
All-time lists are subjective, there s no ''should be''.
He can put whoever he wants at #1.


If you look at ALL the factors, Jordan is the best.

[Cold soul]

http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u407/deucebigalow1/r2gJ.png


You're missing extra gold medal from 2012.

[livinglegend]

If you look at ALL the factors, Jordan is the best.
There s no '' all factors''. It s subjective, a person can look at any criteria that he wants. It s his choice which criterias he wants to use to make his list. You can disagree with his choices, but there no right or wrong all-time list. Something subjective can never be right or wrong.

[JTatStarranch]

Yes, I understand that.

But his reasoning doesn't make any sense on quite a few levels.

First of all I can see he's a laker homer big time as he has 7 Lakers in the top 14 and 5 in the top 8 overall. SURE.... COME ON MAN


Also since he has Kareem number 1 and Magic 4....

But Larry Bird BEAT THEM BOTH in 1984 in the Finals...

That would easily make Bird number 1 actually. Being that he beat your 1 and 4 in while they were both in their primes.

[Carter_17]

[QUOTE=robert_shaww]1. Bill Russel
2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3. Michael Jordan
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Magic Johnson
6. Larry Bird
7. Kobe Bryant
8. Hakeem Olajuwon
9. Oscar Robertson
10. Shaquille O

[Roundball_Rock]

To not be owned by Hakeem, Moses and Sampson in head to head matchup.

Kareem was 34 and 39 in those instances. He played during a tough era for centers. As a comparison, the best competition at SG MJ faced in the playoffs, outside of one series against Drexler, was Reggie Miller, John Starks, Jeff Hornacek, Craig Ehlo, and Nick Anderson. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Magic 32]

1. MJ
2. Russell
3. Wilt

4. Kareem

5. Magic
6. Bird

7. Kobe
8. Duncan
9. Shaq

10. Hakeem
11. Lebron

12. Oscar
13. Moses
14. West
15. Dirk
16. KG
17. Dr. J
18. Malone
19. Isiah
20. Barkley

[TheMarkMadsen]

1. MJ
2. Russell
3. Wilt

4. Kareem

5. Magic
6. Bird

7. Kobe
8. Duncan
9. Shaq

10. Hakeem
11. Lebron

12. Oscar
13. Moses
14. West
15. Dirk
16. KG
17. Dr. J
18. Malone
19. Isiah
20. Barkley

Nice list.

I'd have KAJ @ 2 and Russell at 3.

MJ
KAJ
Russell
Magic
Kobe or Bird
Duncan
Shaq
Wilt
Hakeem.

[Beastmode88]

Always hating on duncan. :sleeping