Back 2 Back Champion Pistons Appreciation Thread

[Real14]

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Tha Back 2 Back champion Detroit "Bad Boy" Pistons are tha best Pistons teams of all time. After Magic and Lakers and Bird and Celtics had their back and forth title winning rivalry going on. Tha 1988-1990 bad boy pistons have won 2 titles straight as being the toughest team in tha league at tha time that even gave Young Jordan fits. These teams was led by legendary Isiah Thomas, and Joe dumars with help from laimbeer and rodman. This team will be forever remembered as one of tha best teams of all time winning in a very tough east and defeated very tough teams of tha west.

What do you appreciate about these teams?

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[ZMonkey11]

I appreciate Scott Hastings going into the Bulls locker room and boobie trapping that whole mug. That man was laughs.

[dd24]

We're going to have to appreciate what the teams did in the past, because we're not going to have another contender for a while.

[Nastradamus]

I don't agree. I think we're a couple moves away if we do it right, now that we have the right guy running the show. Great hire with BOwer too

[Aussie Dunker]

SVG demonstrated we can have a top seeded team building around a Franchise level Center. I believe we have that in Dre. It's now a matter of tweaking his supporting cast to compliment the game style SVG has in mind.

I think we can be successful with a move or two and good coaching / growth of our players.

[dd24]

That's one core person. All of these championship contending teams have at least a one/two punch. It's more than a couple of moves right now. Detroit still needs starters lol. I want starters then I'll worry about a supporting cast.

[Nastradamus]

That's one core person. All of these championship contending teams have at least a one/two punch. It's more than a couple of moves right now. Detroit still needs starters lol. I want starters then I'll worry about a supporting cast.

I think Drummond/Monroe is your core. I think they can be similar to a team like Memphis with a core like that. They need a strong perimeter player to compliment them though. Just gotta keep filling in 3 and D guys around them.

[dd24]

I think Drummond/Monroe is your core. I think they can be similar to a team like Memphis with a core like that. They need a strong perimeter player to compliment them though. Just gotta keep filling in 3 and D guys around them.

Funny thing is Monroe is probably going to be traded. So we're going to trade a core piece? As much as I'd rather see Smith go somewhere I think it's going to end up being Smith/Drummond and they'll probably get a perimeter player for Monroe eventually.

[Nastradamus]

[QUOTE=dd24]Funny thing is Monroe is probably going to be traded. So we're going to trade a core piece? As much as I'd rather see Smith go somewhere I think it's going to end up being Smith/Drummond and they'll probably get a perimeter player for Monroe eventually.[/QUOTE

Very little chance Monroe is traded. We'll either sign him or he'll walk most likely. Sign and trades are pretty rare. You'd have to find a team who wanted and needed him, who was willing to pay him and who was wiling to give up assets that we wanted. We'd also have to take back equivalent salary from that team. If they already had the cap space, they'd just sign him outright.

I am ok with either scenario though. You get Smith to the 4 and you have a very good defensive frontcourt. Smith is still a very good 4 defensively. That leaves you with enough cap space to sign something like Ariza and either Stephenson or Lowry. That gives you a ton of athleticism and defense all over the court.

With Monroe, hopefully we could trade Smith(even if just for cap space) and still add an Ariza type.

[dd24]

Very little chance Monroe is traded. We'll either sign him or he'll walk most likely. Sign and trades are pretty rare. You'd have to find a team who wanted and needed him, who was willing to pay him and who was wiling to give up assets that we wanted. We'd also have to take back equivalent salary from that team. If they already had the cap space, they'd just sign him outright.

I am ok with either scenario though. You get Smith to the 4 and you have a very good defensive frontcourt. Smith is still a very good 4 defensively. That leaves you with enough cap space to sign something like Ariza and either Stephenson or Lowry. That gives you a ton of athleticism and defense all over the court.

With Monroe, hopefully we could trade Smith(even if just for cap space) and still add an Ariza type.

Very little???? I'm not just saying a sign and trade. They can sign him, keep him for half the season and still trade him. And in the case of a sign and trade, no we wouldn't necessarily need to take back an equal salary. If a team is below the cap they can take on the salary as long as they don't go above the cap. There's a lot of teams with space that are interested in Monroe. At that point we would need to decide if we are going to match or not. I'm sure we will but if it's more than the front office wanted to spend then it would be a sign and trade scenario. I don't see another full season with our big three of Smith, Drummond, and Monroe again. So even if it's the deadline if they can't move Smith, it's Monroe.

[dd24]

Oh and this Ariza stuff.... he's not going to get this team to a championship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stop it!!!!! He's a 4th or 5th option. This team doesn't have a 1st option yet. Drummond, for as much promise as he's shown, isn't a #1 option on a team yet. They don't even run plays for him. So we need another big time player before we start signing role players to high dollar multi-year deals.

[Nastradamus]

Very little???? I'm not just saying a sign and trade. They can sign him, keep him for half the season and still trade him. And in the case of a sign and trade, no we wouldn't necessarily need to take back an equal salary. If a team is below the cap they can take on the salary as long as they don't go above the cap. There's a lot of teams with space that are interested in Monroe. At that point we would need to decide if we are going to match or not. I'm sure we will but if it's more than the front office wanted to spend then it would be a sign and trade scenario. I don't see another full season with our big three of Smith, Drummond, and Monroe again. So even if it's the deadline if they can't move Smith, it's Monroe.

No team with cap space is going to give us assets.

Trading him at next year's deadline is a different scenario. It is almost impossible that he will be traded before then. The rules and the moving parts involved make it too difficult to pull off.

[Nastradamus]

Oh and this Ariza stuff.... he's not going to get this team to a championship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stop it!!!!! He's a 4th or 5th option. This team doesn't have a 1st option yet. Drummond, for as much promise as he's shown, isn't a #1 option on a team yet. They don't even run plays for him. So we need another big time player before we start signing role players to high dollar multi-year deals.

We could wait a long time for a true #1, superstar type. If we are going to build around a concept of Monroe and Drummond being max caliber players, then we need to surround them with shooters and our SF would ideally be athletic and strong on defense.

I'd love to snag Stephenson though as I think he has the upside of a #1 option.

[dd24]

We could wait a long time for a true #1, superstar type. If we are going to build around a concept of Monroe and Drummond being max caliber players, then we need to surround them with shooters and our SF would ideally be athletic and strong on defense.

I'd love to snag Stephenson though as I think he has the upside of a #1 option.

I have no interest in paying Stephenson the 13 million he wants. He's not ever going to be a #1 option. I love that he plays hard and he's a good defender but he's not a guy who should get more than 10 million. It sounds like a BG signing all over again.

[dd24]

No team with cap space is going to give us assets.

Trading him at next year's deadline is a different scenario. It is almost impossible that he will be traded before then. The rules and the moving parts involved make it too difficult to pull off.

So you really think that Monroe, Smith, and Drummond are going to play an entire season together again?

[Aussie Dunker]

So you really think that Monroe, Smith, and Drummond are going to play an entire season together again?

I bloody hope not!!!! This would be a huge failure, especially on behalf of SVG who would have been sitting back watching this train wreck from the outside last year like all of us on this board were....

He needs, and will make a move. What that move will be is anybodys guess....

I like Stephenson for 10 mill, especially if we were paying Stuckey 8 mill... But 13 mill would be a very bad signing... He does not have #1 potential in my eyes, although I will say he has potential to be a very good Robin on a good team...

I like Ariza too - but again, not for the kind of money he will be getting.

I think Dre + Monroe + role players can grow into an elite unit @DD24, I truly believe that could work. I think Dre will develop into a Dwight like presence, and Moose could be a very strong / borderline All-Star.

I believe if we can surround these two with not just role players, but solid starters (which is what we are lacking) we could be a threat in 2 or 3 years.

I like Lowry if we can get rid of Jennings. I especially like the idea of somehow getting Smart...

I for one put great value on having the right coach for the right player / playing group and I believe SVG is that guy for Dre / Pistons. In my opinion, SVG's success with his players will determine how well this team rolls into the next era...

[dd24]

I love Dre & Monroe. I still think they need another top level player next to them to make it work. That's a big reason why losing our lottery pick really set us back. Imagine being an 8 seed this year.... it's certainly not going to help us. So the only way to get better is through free agency or a trade. If we want to pursue free agents that means we aren't going to resign Monroe. I believe we're going to resign Monroe. So now the only way to get better is a trade. As much as we would all like to see Smith go, it's going to be far more difficult to trade him. The guy people really want is Monroe. So you tell me what assets that we have that other teams really want outside of that.

[Nastradamus]

So you really think that Monroe, Smith, and Drummond are going to play an entire season together again?

That's not what I said, but Monroe being traded isn't a likely way to break it up. We needed to do that before he hit restricted free agency if we wanted to move him. So if you want to break up the big 3, you either let Monroe walk or you trade Smith

a few interesting articles that kind of pertain to the subject


http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2014/6/5/5782516/pistons-josh-smith-is-dying-to-be-coached-adrian-wojnarowski

http://hawkshoop.com/josh-smith-best-perimeter-defender/

[Nastradamus]

I love Dre & Monroe. I still think they need another top level player next to them to make it work. That's a big reason why losing our lottery pick really set us back. Imagine being an 8 seed this year.... it's certainly not going to help us. So the only way to get better is through free agency or a trade. If we want to pursue free agents that means we aren't going to resign Monroe. I believe we're going to resign Monroe. So now the only way to get better is a trade. As much as we would all like to see Smith go, it's going to be far more difficult to trade him. The guy people really want is Monroe. So you tell me what assets that we have that other teams really want outside of that.

You're only chance really is to build through FA this year. That or use your cap space to take on contracts while getting some picks in return. You could take Boozer for Chicago,Perkins for OKC etc.