How many years has Lebron been the best player in the world for?

[Cocaine80s]

08
09
10
12
13
14

:biggums: :biggums:


Jesus, i could add in 2011 too but that was a major choke so imma leave that out.

Anyways, Spurs in 7

[PickernRoller]

To be fair and honest: 11,12,13,14.

09 he admitted he wasn't better and in 10' he simply wasn't there yet. You could see in 11 and specially 12 that he finally arrived and knew what it took.

[Fudge]

2010-13

We are now witnesses to the King Kevin era.

[Warfan]

From 09' onwards, u can take out 11' if u want

[red1]

2010-13

We are now witnesses to the King Kevin era.
you need to stop trolling bro

[Marlo_Stanfield]

ever since he dragged those scrubs to the finals in 07.
hould have won MVP from 08-14:applause: :applause:

[Fudge]

you need to stop trolling bro
Ok, in all seriousness, 09-13.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Ok, in all seriousness, 09-13.
do you actually still think Durant is better than Bran?:biggums: :wtf:

[Cocaine80s]

2010-13

We are now witnesses to the King Kevin era.
King Kevin?

The one who has been getting saved every series this year and is about to get swept by the spurs? :lebronamazed:

That Kevin?

:oldlol: :oldlol:

[Springsteen]

When people say best player, do they mean everything? Is he the best player at videogames and taking dumps among other things? Or just Basketball?

[red1]

Ok, in all seriousness, 09-13.
you're not getting it. this is ban worthy filth:


We are now witnesses to the King Kevin era.

please. just stop trolling bro

[red1]

King Kevin?

The one who has been getting saved every series this year and is about to get swept by the spurs? :lebronamazed:

That Kevin?

:oldlol: :oldlol:
this guy gets it

[SexSymbol]

09 and 10 were Kobe's.
Dirk is arguable in 11, after that it's been LeBron quite easily

[Solefade]

08 was an arguable year since CP3 and Kobe were just as impressive definitely from 09 and on though

[Keno]

08-now. he's been a top 3 player in the nba since 2004 tho.

[Solefade]

09 and 10 were Kobe's.
Dirk is arguable in 11, after that it's been LeBron quite easily

:roll: :roll:

[Fudge]

you're not getting it. this is ban worthy filth:



please. just stop trolling bro
I'm not even trolling, dude.

This is coming from a Heat and Thunder fan. Fan of both sides. Just being real.

[TheMarkMadsen]

[QUOTE=SexSymbol]09 and 10 were Kobe's.
Dirk is arguable in 11, after that it's been LeBron quite easily[/QUOTE

Yuuuup

Would say 11 but it's hard too with dat finals

[red1]

09 and 10 were Kobe's.
Dirk is arguable in 11, after that it's been LeBron quite easily
http://i56.tinypic.com/28u7ecj.jpg

[fpliii]

**** Bran.

[red1]

I'm not even trolling, dude.

This is coming from a Heat and Thunder fan. Fan of both sides. Just being real.
:coleman: :whatever: :durantunimpressed: :kobe:

[Cocaine80s]

Actually I think i'll give 09 to Kobe and 11 to Bron.

[Fudge]

**** Bran.
:eek:

[Solefade]

Kobe was NOT the best player in 09 and 10, he was just the best player on the best team except in the finals

[Leftimage]

Strong argument: 07'-14'

Almost certainly: 09'-14'

Not debatable: 10'-14'

Likely to remain the best for another 2-3 years provided he's healthy.

[fpliii]

:eek:
:confusedshrug:

[navy]

09-14.

[Milbuck]

Can't give Bron 2008-09 after what Kobe did in the playoffs/finals. I'd say from the 2009-10 season onwards. So around 5 seasons now.

[KyleKong]

Ok, in all seriousness, 09-13.
:oldlol:

[PickernRoller]

Kobe was NOT the best player in 09 and 10, he was just the best player on the best team except in the finals

Best player in the world =/= MVP. I even have to admit as a Lebron fan that he wasn't better than Kobe in those years. He lacked the maturity of a champion and it showed.

You could tell after the 08 Olympics how much both Lebron and Wade grew after playing with Kobe. They both knew they weren't better and honestly admitted so when asked.

[Kingwillball]

Strong argument: 07'-14'

Almost certainly: 09'-14'

Not debatable: 10'-14'

Likely to remain the best for another 2-3 years provided he's healthy.


This.. Agreed

[Magic 32]

08-now. he's been a top 3 player in the nba since 2004 tho.

How can you pick Lebron in 2008? :facepalm

[Magic 32]

This.. Agreed

2014 is not set yet.

Lebron needs to beat a good team first.

[Cocaine80s]

Best player in the world =/= MVP. I even have to admit as a Lebron fan that he wasn't better than Kobe in those years. He lacked the maturity of a champion and it showed.

You could tell after the 08 Olympics how much both Lebron and Wade grew after playing with Kobe. They both knew they weren't better and honestly admitted so when asked.
http://i.imgur.com/ywolq7i.png

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe was NOT the best player in 09 and 10, he was just the best player on the best team except in the finals

Yeah a 3 year stretch of 30/6/6 in the playoffs

Only player in nba history to score 600 points in 3 straight playoffs (2FMVP)

Only player since Jordan to average 30/5/5 in the finals

[Rocketswin2013]

09-14.
09 is arguable for CP3, Kobe, and Wade. LeBron may have been the best but man, 2 other great players peaked that year and both have cases.
10 it's LeBron
11 it's Howard and it's not close IMO.
12 Bron
13 Bron
14....Bron?

[CelticBaller]

cocaine keeps sipping on that bran semen

[Kingwillball]

2014 is not set yet.

Lebron needs to beat a good team first.


2014 is signed sealed and Delivered has been easily better than KD in Playoffs when its mattered.

[Cocaine80s]

cocaine keeps sipping on that bran semen
what happened to that Durant avy u bandwagon p*ssy

[zoom17]

cocaine keeps sipping on that bran semen

Durant should have lost in the first round:oldlol:

[Kingwillball]

09 is arguable for CP3, Kobe, and Wade. LeBron may have been the best but man, 2 other great players peaked that year and both have cases.
10 it's LeBron
11 it's Howard and it's not close IMO.
12 Bron
13 Bron
14....Bron?


Howard was NEVER a better player than LEbron get off the crack..

[CelticBaller]

what happened to that Durant avy u bandwagon p*ssy
what, english please

[SexSymbol]

Kobe was NOT the best player in 09 and 10, he was just the best player on the best team except in the finals
Stop joking, kid, and watch some ****ing games.
30/6/6 from 08-10 in the playoffs.
6 gamewinners in 10 regular season, a ring in the end against one of the best defensive teams of all time, meanwhile LeBron gave up against the same team.
He has a better chance in 09, but Kobe ousted the same team, that LeBron's cavs got beat by, so you can't put him over Kobe in that year too.
appreciate greatness, there's not much of Kobe left...
LeBron himself admitted that Kobe was a better player than him, what more do you want, what do you even base your pick off? MVPs? lol

[zoom17]

what, english please


http://static.foxsports.com/content/fscom/img/2010/02/13/021310-CBK-Thunder-Inside-JW_20100213174812_0_0.JPG

[Rocketswin2013]

Howard was NEVER a better player than LEbron get off the crack..
Howard actually was in 2011. It's known. He even beat him in MVP votes that year and had a ridiculous impact defensively.

[CelticBaller]

Howard actually was in 2011. It's known. He even beat him in MVP votes that year and had a ridiculous impact defensively.
that dude been drunk off brans semen for the longest now

[BigBoss]

It ended last year. He's going to lose in the finals this year, decline, then the narrative will be how overrated he is and that he's a top 11-15 player at best. Book it.

[Cocaine80s]

Howard actually was in 2011. It's known. He even beat him in MVP votes that year and had a ridiculous impact defensively.
he finisehd behined derick rose also. that doesnt mean rose>lebron.



also he lost to the hawks in the 1st round

[Magic 32]

when its mattered.

And that would be......game 4 against the Nets?

Durant showed up big in game 6 and 7 against the Grizz and game 6 against Clippers.

They are both gonna lose to the Spurs. Lebron gets one round futher, Durant gets the RS MVP.

So Durant > LJ (unless he beats the Spurs).

[CelticBaller]

also he lost to the hawks in the 1st round
dirk lost to the warriors in 07

[Cocaine80s]

And that would be......game 4 against the Nets?

Durant showed up big in game 6 and 7 against the Grizz and game 6 against Clippers.

They are both gonna lose to the Spurs. Lebron gets one round futher, Durant gets the MVP.
inb4 lebron wins

[SexSymbol]

And that would be......game 4 against the Nets?

Durant showed up big in game 6 and 7 against the Grizz and game 6 against Clippers.

They are both gonna lose to the Spurs. Lebron gets one round futher, Durant gets the MVP.
MVP doesn't mean anything

[Kingwillball]

Howard actually was in 2011. It's known. He even beat him in MVP votes that year and had a ridiculous impact defensively.


Lebron didn't take a step back for a year as best player it was arguable with Lebron Kobe, Duncan ext 07-09 but 2010-14 Lebron clear cut best player.

[Solefade]

Stop joking, kid, and watch some ****ing games.
30/6/6 from 08-10 in the playoffs.
6 gamewinners in 10 regular season, a ring in the end against one of the best defensive teams of all time, meanwhile LeBron gave up against the same team.
He has a better chance in 09, but Kobe ousted the same team, that LeBron's cavs got beat by, so you can't put him over Kobe in that year too.
appreciate greatness, there's not much of Kobe left...
LeBron himself admitted that Kobe was a better player than him, what more do you want, what do you even base your pick off? MVPs? lol


lebron 35/9/7 on 51% in 09 playoffs :rolleyes: and you act like kobe beat that magic team by himself gtfo kobetard

[Warfan]

Did someone just say Dwight in 2011? ... and not even close :roll:


Yeah a 3 year stretch of 30/6/6 in the playoffs

Only player in nba history to score 600 points in 3 straight playoffs (2FMVP)

Only player since Jordan to average 30/5/5 in the finals

That's so abitrary. Kobe hasn't even had a top 5 finals performance since 98' (well maybe just top 5)

Edit - meant barely top 5 if u were to choose

[red1]

And that would be......game 4 against the Nets?

Durant showed up big in game 6 and 7 against the Grizz and game 6 against Clippers.

They are both gonna lose to the Spurs. Lebron gets one round futher, Durant gets the MVP.
http://media.nj.com/nets_impact/photo/9009758-large.jpg
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/002/657/288/hi-res-153624452_crop_650x440.jpg

[Solefade]

Yeah a 3 year stretch of 30/6/6 in the playoffs

Only player in nba history to score 600 points in 3 straight playoffs (2FMVP)

Only player since Jordan to average 30/5/5 in the finals


while never shooting over 50%


only finals mvp to go 6/24 in game 7 to win fmvp :rolleyes: i'm not impressed

[Kingwillball]

And that would be......game 4 against the Nets?

Durant showed up big in game 6 and 7 against the Grizz and game 6 against Clippers.

They are both gonna lose to the Spurs. Lebron gets one round futher, Durant gets the MVP.


Dude stop Arguing KD over LEbron that ship has sailed. Every single Broadcaster/Analyst on TV radio and Internet Refers to Lebron as best player in World. When U watch the two play especially when Lebron is aggressive it is easy to see why he is better he does more things on the court as Barkley mentioned today. with all that said a Few Kobe.Durant trolls want to say different cause they are jealous or just hating.

[Leftimage]

It ended last year. He's going to lose in the finals this year, decline, then the narrative will be how overrated he is and that he's a top 11-15 player at best. Book it.

Regardless of how Lebron performs going forward, this season is all wrapped up. I didn't hear ONE serious person claim KD was a better basketball player than Lebron at this point and time. MVP season? Sure. Better player? lol.

While the gap between KD & the rest of the league may have grown, the gap between Lebron & KD has only shrunk a little, and it's still rather significant.

[Magic 32]

http://media.nj.com/nets_impact/photo/9009758-large.jpg
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/002/657/288/hi-res-153624452_crop_650x440.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2PSPjT2.jpg

[kennethgriffin]

1990 - Jordan
1991 - Jordan
1992 - Jordan
1993 - Jordan
1994 - Hakeem
1995 - Hakeem
1996 - Jordan
1997 - Jordan
1998 - Jordan
1999 - Shaq
2000 - Shaq
2001 - Shaq
2002 - Shaq
2003 - Duncan
2004 - Duncan
2005 - Duncan
2006 - Kobe
2007 - Kobe
2008 - Kobe
2009 - Kobe
2010 - Kobe
2011 - Lebron
2012 - Lebron
2013 - Lebron
2014 - Lebron



Kobe had the longest run out of anyone since jordan took over for magic

thanks to jordans retirement/ban

[red1]

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[CelticBaller]

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[red1]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Spurs-trophies20090312.jpg
:lebronamazed:

[Magic 32]

Dude stop Arguing KD over LEbron that ship has sailed. Every single Broadcaster/Analyst on TV radio and Internet Refers to Lebron as best player in World. When U watch the two play especially when Lebron is aggressive it is easy to see why he is better he does more things on the court as Barkley mentioned today. with all that said a Few Kobe.Durant trolls want to say different cause they are jealous or just hating.

Must be nice to have your favorite player play in the east...and on a team with no starters being out with injuries.

Its KD's league unless Lebron win the the finals.

[Cocaine80s]

Lol at this Celtic fan tryna boost the Spurs :roll:



*****ot just because your team hasnt had any success in the past 5 years doesnt mean u can start bandwagoning :facepalm

enjoy mediocrity my ni*ga

[Cocaine80s]

Must be nice to have your favorite player play in the east...and on a team with no starters being out with injuries.

Its KD's league unless Lebron win the the finals.
you excited for the draft? :roll:

[Cold soul]

09 and 10 were Kobe's.
Dirk is arguable in 11, after that it's been LeBron quite easily

This. I think from 2010-2011 season to present time.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

This would be 6

[Magic 32]

2000 - Shaq
2001 - Shaq
2002 - Shaq
2003 - Duncan
2004 - Duncan
2005 - Duncan
2006 - Kobe
2007 - Kobe
2008 - Kobe
2009 - Lebron
2010 - Lebron
2011 - Lebron
2012 - Lebron
2013 - Lebron
2014 - Durant

One thing for sure. Big man era died at the end of the decade.

[CelticBaller]

Lol at this Celtic fan tryna boost the Spurs :roll:



*****ot just because your team hasnt had any success in the past 5 years doesnt mean u can start bandwagoning :facepalm

enjoy mediocrity my ni*ga
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[Cocaine80s]

2000 - Shaq
2001 - Shaq
2002 - Shaq
2003 - Duncan
2004 - Duncan
2005 - Duncan
2006 - Wade
2007 - Dirk
2008 - Lebron
2009 - Lebron
2010 - Lebron
2011 - Lebron
2012 - Lebron
2013 - Lebron
2014 - Lebron

One things for sure. The Lebron era started in 08
fixed

[Magic 32]

you excited for the draft? :roll:

http://cdn.niketalk.com/e/e3/e3598b1c_3581747.jpeg

[Magic 32]

fixed

Fixed like G6 2002 WCF

[Cocaine80s]

Fixed like G5 2014 WCSF
fixed

[Magic 32]

fixed

sound good to me.

[Duggrr]

Is it fair to say that Dirk was the best in 2011? May be a bit biased - he's probably my 4th or 5th favorite player all time.

09' - Bran
10' - Bran
11' - Dirk
12'-14' - Bran (Stop with the KD shi1t)

[Solefade]

Is it fair to say that Dirk was the best in 2011?

09' - Bran
10' - Bran
11' - Dirk
12'-14' - Bran (Stop with the KD shi1t)


dirk had one of the greatest playoff runs ever

[riseagainst]

maybe 09, but definitely 10 till now.

[Ne 1]

Strong argument: 07'-14'

Almost certainly: 09'-14'

Not debatable: 10'-14'

Likely to remain the best for another 2-3 years provided he's healthy.
2007 and 2008 - no argument over Kobe or Duncan in '07 or Kobe in '08. 2009- I would go with LeBron, but I can see a case for Kobe or Wade. 2010- If it wasn't for the quit/choke job vs Boston, I'd agree. Some would go with Kobe after winning a second straight ring and after Bron's
perplexing play vs Boston after Game 3 visibly pouting/quitting. The Celtics deserve some credit, but LeBron just seemed off and he played like garbage in the last 3 games. He didn't seem like himself at all. I don't know if he was looking towards the summer, or if the Delonte rumor was true, but he really looked visibly distracted. 2011- Dirk. 2012-2014- agreed.

[dubeta]

Boiled down

2000-2003 Shaq

2003-2005 Duncan

2006 Tie between A.I/Kobe

2007- Kobe

2008-2014 LeBron

Face it Kobe stans, Kobe has been the best player in the world for only 1 year in his entire 18 year career

LeBron became better in 2008

2008 season averages

Kobe- 28/6/5 on 45.9% shooting

LeBron 30/8/7 on 48.4% shooting

Sorry the statistical advantages are too great to make an argument for Kobe

Other than getting Gasol what did Kobe exactly do to warrant best player in the league? He lost in 6 to the Celtics

The same season Lebron took the Celtics to7 games with a significantly inferior supporting cast than Kobe

So LeBron had better stats than kobe, and took the Celtics to 7 games instead of 6 by Kobe

In what way are you Kobe stans trying to spin that Kobe was the best in 2008? :facepalm

Bran best in the league from 2008-2014, its undeniable :bowdown:

Any Kobe stan want to make a logical argument for Godbe?

[Magic 32]

Other than getting Gasol what did Kobe exactly do to warrant best player in the league?

Being number 1 in the west before Gasol.




He lost in 6 to the Celtics

The same season Lebron took the Celtics to7 games with a significantly inferior supporting cast than Kobe

So LeBron had better stats than kobe, and took the Celtics to 7 games instead of 6 by Kobe



Took?

They win game 1 if Lebron play bad.....instead of historically bad.

25% shooting in the first 4 games.

http://s16.postimg.org/c6wpybcyt/234525.png

[tanner892]

2003-2010 KOBE

2011 DIRK because of Lebrons amazing choke

2012 BRAN

2013 BRAN

2014 KD

lol if u think about it, 2 years, for the GOAT? wut

[Simple Jack]

Being number 1 in the west before Gasol.



Took?

http://s16.postimg.org/c6wpybcyt/234525.png

In all fairness, the games where Bron really shit the bed, the Cavs lost.

Kobe was probably better in 08 though but 09 - present has been LeBron quite clearly.

[Magic 32]

In all fairness, the games where Bron really shit the bed, the Cavs lost.


and they shouldn't had...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdeqTcdauyU&t=3m41s

capping off the worst game ever.

2-18 FG

1-10 in the 4th

10 TO

Miss game tying LAY-UP!!!

[dubeta]

Being number 1 in the west before Gasol.



Took?

They win game 1 if Lebron play bad.....instead of historically bad.

25% shooting in the first 4 games.

http://s16.postimg.org/c6wpybcyt/234525.png

What are you trying to prove? LeBron averaged 26.7 in that series > 25.6 that Kobe averaged

So Lebron was a better performer, plus much better regular season stats, while carrying an inferior supporting cast. How was Kobe better?

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Strong argument: 07'-14'

Almost certainly: 09'-14'

Not debatable: 10'-14'

Likely to remain the best for another 2-3 years provided he's healthy.
hell remain the best till age 35 just like Jordan baring injuries:banana: :banana: :banana:

[Nash]

2004-

since he started putting up 27/7/7 his sophmore year.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Jordan
Jordan
Jordan
Jordan
Hakeem
Hakeem
Jordan
Jordan
Jordan
Shaq
Shaq
Shaq
Shaq
Duncan
Garnett
Duncan
Kobe
Kobe
Kobe
LeBron
LeBron
LeBron
LeBron
LeBron
LeBron

1990-present

[Rocketswin2013]

Jordan
Jordan
Jordan
Jordan
Hakeem
Hakeem
Jordan
Jordan
Jordan
Shaq
Shaq
Shaq
Shaq
Duncan
Garnett
Duncan
Kobe
Kobe
Kobe
LeBron
LeBron
LeBron
LeBron
LeBron
LeBron

1990-present
You raped Duncan on this. :lol But I sort of agree. Duncan didn't have some epic peak. He is just one of the most consistent players ever.

[Ne 1]

2006 Tie between A.I. And Kobe 2008- LeBron

:oldlol:

Any Kobe stan want to make a logical argument for Godbe
In '08 Kobe played his best from an all around standpoint, his best defensive season since the 3peat, his best job as a facilitator ever and his most mature, unselfish and intelligent ball. It's right up there with '06 as his best season. The Lakers were 25-11 early at the time of Bynum's injury, Kobe kept them going until they got Gasol, then Gasol was injured and he kept them going and they ended up with the best record in one of the most competitive conferences ever. Kobe's balance between getting his teammates involved early and taking over later was reminiscent of Jordan that season. He was a great playmaker, a deadly scorer who did play unselfishly for the most part, he rebounded very well for a guard and he had his best defensive season since the 3peat.

Well deserved MVP season, led the Lakers to the top seed in a historically competitive conference, incredible playoff run leading the Lakers to the Finals despite losing two of their core players to injury (Bynum and Ariza)

[Magic 32]

So Lebron was a better performer, plus much better regular season stats, while carrying an inferior supporting cast. How was Kobe better?

45 win in the east.

That some carrying :roll:


What are you trying to prove? LeBron averaged 26.7 in that series > 25.6 that Kobe averaged


Well I guess 1 ppg makes the differ.........no no no no.

21-78 FG from the floor in the first 4 games.

[TheMarkMadsen]

If you have dirk in 11 b/c he won a title and and played well in the finals but you don't have Kobe in 09 you need to slap yourself.

[Cocaine80s]

If you have dirk in 11 b/c he won a title and and played well in the finals but you don't have Kobe in 09 you need to slap yourself.
i gave Dirk 2011 because Lebron choked. And yea i gave 09 to kobe after thinking about it a little.

[dubeta]

45 win in the east.

That some carrying :roll:



Well I guess 1 ppg makes the differ.........no no no no.

21-78 FG from the floor in the first 4 games.

If you really want to harp on the 45 wins then please remember that LeBron had to miss 5 straight games with an injury, in which the Cavs went 0-5 without LeBron, significantly damaging their record.

And once Lakers got Gasol they went on a 24-5 run, but somehow Kobe was the MVP :hammerhead:

[chris02jammers]

since 2008

[COnDEMnED]

08-now. he's been a top 3 player in the nba since 2004 tho.
I know it's hard, but think back to 2004... I'm sure you can think of at least 3 better players at that time than Lebron James.. cmon..

[Magic 32]

If you really want to harp on the 45 wins then please remember that LeBron had to miss 5 straight games with an injury, in which the Cavs went 0-5 without LeBron, significantly damaging their record.

And once Lakers got Gasol they went on a 24-5 run, but somehow Kobe was the MVP :hammerhead:

Kobe had his greatest non-championship playoff run and won 12 more games in the RS than Lebron.

He was number 1 with Bynum, he was number 1 without him, and then he was number 1 with Gasol.

If you look over the entire season, only KG had a case over Kobe in 2008.



in which the Cavs went 0-5


That's what happen when you surround your only star with shooters and defenders......without an offense system.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

2004 shaq
2005 Iverson
2006 Dirk/kobe
2007 LeBron
2008 LeBron
2009 LeBron
2010 LeBron
2011 LeBron
2012 LeBron
2013 LeBron
2014 LeBron
:lebronamazed: :lebronamazed: :lebronamazed: :kobe:

[bdreason]

About 6 years now.

[Magic 32]

2004 shaq
2005 Iverson
2006 Dirk/kobe
2007 LeBron
2008 LeBron
2009 LeBron
2010 LeBron
2011 LeBron
2012 LeBron
2013 LeBron
2014 LeBron
:lebronamazed: :lebronamazed: :lebronamazed: :kobe:

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[Simple Jack]

and they shouldn't had...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdeqTcdauyU&t=3m41s

capping off the worst game ever.

2-18 FG

1-10 in the 4th

10 TO

Miss game tying LAY-UP!!!

That's not the point. Someone mentioned they went to 7 games, and you posted his stats. It's not as if they went to 7 games despite LeBron's terrible play...they lost the games he played awful in. The games they won, he was clearly their best player. Going to a 7 game series requires 3 wins, each of which he was mainly responsible for.

[pauk]

Being the most overall productive player in the NBA while humiliating the supposed "best player" during his matchups?

Then Lebron has arguably been the best player since his 2nd year in the NBA....

[T_L_P]

Being the most overall productive player in the NBA while humiliating the supposed "best player" during his matchups?

Then Lebron has arguably been the best player since his 2nd year in the NBA....

No player who misses the Playoffs can be called the best in the league.

God damn you're an atrocious stan. You said he deserved DPOY this year (and last year) too. :oldlol:

[RoundMoundOfReb]

You raped Duncan on this. :lol But I sort of agree. Duncan didn't have some epic peak. He is just one of the most consistent players ever.
I'm a big Duncan fan. I have him over Kobe all time easily but he just coincidentally wasn't the best player in the league as often + for the 3 kobe years were close I can hear reasonable arguments for LeBron/Wade in '06, Duncan in '07, Lebron and Paul in '08 but ultimately i'd give kobe the edge in all 3.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

LeBron has a case 3rd year on-wards. Don't really see an argument for him in '05.

[LakersFan626]

while never shooting over 50%


only finals mvp to go 6/24 in game 7 to win fmvp :rolleyes: i'm not impressed

You ignored all the rebounds and FTs he got... he made all the right plays when they mattered most and the myth of Artest and Gasol carrying him is proven with Gasol shooting 6-16 and Artest 7-18, hardly impressive. Good games from both but overrated while Kobe's is very underrated, especially since Dirk went 9-27 in 2011 Finals game 6 yet nobody says Dirk was carried.

To answer, 11-12, 12-13, and likely 13-14. 08-09 and 09-10 were Kobe and 10-11 was Dirk (the year of LeBron's 8 point game and Dwight had his best season but his team had a WORSE record). LeBron was close in 08-09 and 09-10 and Wade was close in 08-09 but Kobe's skillset was superior to both and he came through when it mattered most.

[GimmeThat]

Considering how his efficiency in Miami's first year was somewhat the same as his Cleveland days.

I would say 2011-2012.

But then I'm a Lebron stan, therefore I'm allowed to be a harsh critic.

Time for the other stans to pay up their respect?

[Simple Jack]

You ignored all the rebounds and FTs he got... he made all the right plays when they mattered most and the myth of Artest and Gasol carrying him is proven with Gasol shooting 6-16 and Artest 7-18, hardly impressive. Good games from both but overrated while Kobe's is very underrated, especially since Dirk went 9-27 in 2011 Finals game 6 yet nobody says Dirk was carried.

To answer, 11-12, 12-13, and likely 13-14. 08-09 and 09-10 were Kobe and 10-11 was Dirk (the year of LeBron's 8 point game and Dwight had his best season but his team had a WORSE record). LeBron was close in 08-09 and 09-10 and Wade was close in 08-09 but Kobe's skillset was superior to both and he came through when it mattered most.

Kobe's game 7 is more certainly not underrated in any regard. It was a horrid game by anyone's standards, and certainly Kobe's. You shouldn't be praised for putting your team in a horrible situation only to make a few plays down the stretch to HELP your team win. Other players stepped up at the end too in making some key buckets.

Suggesting his game 7 as good, or underrated, is putting a very low standard on what you believe Kobe is capable of. It was a clearly a bad game from him and not something that we've come to expect from a player of his caliber.

On another note - so you must think Wade > Kobe in 05-06?

And Pauk, you're on crack if you think Bron was the best player in the league since his 2nd year. His defense didn't become a factor until later in the decade, with it really picking up in 09.

[Trollsmasher]

Why are Kobe stans in this thread? Kobe has not been considered the best player in the NBA in any year of his career.

[blablabla]

10-14 with a growing gap between him and the others every year

[kennethgriffin]

Why are Kobe stans in this thread? Kobe has not been considered the best player in the NBA in any year of his career.


an argument could be made for kobe in any of these years.

2001 28/6/5 average (30/7/6 playoffs, all time record 15-1 )
2003 30/6/5 average, 9 straight 40 point games
2006 35/5/5 average, 81 point game
2007 32/6/5 average, 4 straight 50 point games
2008 NBA MVP, NBA Finals
2008 Olympic Gold medal game MVP
2008 ESPY Best NBA Player Award (Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers)
2009 NBA FINALS MVP
2010 NBA FINALS MVP, beat 4 playoff teams with 50+ wins
2010 ESPY Best NBA Player Award (Kobe Bryant, Los Angeles Lakers)



Sporting News NBA Athlete of the Decade (2000s)
TNT NBA Player of the Decade (2000s)
Sports Illustrated Top 20 Male Athlete of the Decade (2000s) #7 (the only NBA player in the top 10)
Ranked #1 in Dime Magazine's 2012 list of the top 10 greatest players since the year 2000 (published in the September 2012 issue)

[Real14]

Never.

[pastis]

11 is dirk. bosh admitted in a tv interview as well. dir dropped a 50-90-40 season. unfortunately he was injured and missed 10 games- drk truly had a shot being mvp 11

07 is obvious as well dirk.

06 dirk as well, clearly

[LilEddyCurry]

2010-2014, but in 2009 he was a very close second to Kobe and in 2011 he choked that finals away... But still he was better than Dirk but Dirk had an incredible playoffs run.

[-Lebron23-]

Every year from 2008 except for 2011. This year it's him again, especially if the Heat 3-peat

[T_L_P]

11 is dirk. bosh admitted in a tv interview as well. dir dropped a 50-90-40 season. unfortunately he was injured and missed 10 games- drk truly had a shot being mvp 11

07 is obvious as well dirk.

06 dirk as well, clearly

After the '07 Playoffs, there's no way Dirk was the best player that year.

And if you think Dirk was the best in '07 just because of the regular season, Kobe should be the best in '06.

Stay consistent with your criteria bro.

[Ne 1]

I know it's hard, but think back to 2004... I'm sure you can think of at least 3 better players at that time than Lebron James.. cmon..
Not hard at all actually 2004 and 2005 KG, Duncan and Shaq alone are easily better.

[The Iron Sheik]

since 2012, so 3 seasons. cases could be made for years 2009 - 2011 though.

[JTatStarranch]

Switch
Duncan with Lebron and Duncan would have 5 Titles from 04 to now. Yes, even with Cleveland he would've won 1 or 2.

Duncan is the best player and still is, since Shaq's prime. So since 03 to now.

Duncan can play inside.
labron CAN:T

[Marlo_Stanfield]

since 2012, so 3 seasons. cases could be made for years 2009 - 2011 though.
reported for abuse

[The Iron Sheik]

reported for abuse

what?

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Other than 2011, every year since 2009. I thought this year was going to be Durant's but he clearly doesn't deserve it the way he has been performing in the playoffs.

[Jlamb47]

08- kobe mvp
09 - Kobe he won the ring
10- kobe he won the ring
11 - dirk
12 - present lebron

[Kingwillball]

Switch
Duncan with Lebron and Duncan would have 5 Titles from 04 to now. Yes, even with Cleveland he would've won 1 or 2.

Duncan is the best player and still is, since Shaq's prime. So since 03 to now.

Duncan can play inside.
labron CAN:T

Dont post on here with this nonsense.. Now your saying Duncan is best player in NBA when he us not even best player on own team last half decade. :facepalm

[ArbitraryWater]

Ever since 2009... this is his 6th straight year. This can't really be disputed either. It's since 2009.

2006-2008 is mad close, could be argued as well.

[Kingwillball]

Ever since 2009... this is his 6th straight year. This can't really be disputed either. It's since 2009.

2006-2008 is mad close, could be argued as well.

I would say he was in top 5 mix since 2006 on and best player from 2009 on.. His last couple years in Clev he was dominant force a one man army with little help in playoffs but Lebron was best on world at that point even before championships.

[T_L_P]

Dont post on here with this nonsense.. Now your saying Duncan is best player in NBA when he us not even best player on own team last half decade. :facepalm

Parker in the past five years: 20/3/6/1, .525 TS%, 19.3 PER, 5.3 WS, 106 ORtg, 108 DRtg.

Duncan in the past five years: 17/10/2/2, .532 TS%, 20.9 PER, 7.2 WS, 109 ORtg, 101 DRtg.

Although I agree, his post is obviously wrong.

[red1]

2009-2014

[Kingwillball]

Parker in the past five years: 20/3/6/1, .525 TS%, 19.3 PER, 5.3 WS, 106 ORtg, 108 DRtg.

Duncan in the past five years: 17/10/2/2, .553 TS%, 21.3 PER, 7.8 WS, 109 ORtg, 102 DRtg.

Although I agree, his post is obviously wrong.

TD top player in league along with Shaq for a few years but even in later years still a top 10-15 player past prime still impressive.

[T_L_P]

TD top player in league along with Shaq for a few years but even in later years still a top 10-15 player past prime still impressive.

I agree, I'm addressing your statement that he wasn't the best player on his team. All measurable stats indicate he was, that's all. :confusedshrug:

[StrongLurk]

I agree, I'm addressing your statement that he wasn't the best player on his team. All measurable stats indicate he was, that's all. :confusedshrug:

09-present, even including 2011.

[tmacattack33]

2009 (or maybe 2008) to now. Minus 2011 if you want.

2011 is up for grabs if you want to say Dirk. But given that Dirk was not so amazing in the regular season that year, and 4 months later when the next season started Dirk was not playing well and wasn't even playing top 5 (or even top 10 maybe) ball, I'm not sure he could be given the best player title. It seems like the 2011 playoffs were more of a hot streak than representative of his true level of play.

[K Xerxes]

Very arguably 09-present.

Unquestionably for the '12 and '13 seasons. We'll see how this season plays out for a definitive verdict on Bron vs Durant.

[T_L_P]

09-present, even including 2011.

I'm talking about Tim vs. Parker here. Nothing to do with Bron.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Very arguably 09-present.

Unquestionably for the '12 and '13 seasons. We'll see how this season plays out for a definitive verdict on Bron vs Durant.
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[truhooper]

6 straight :cheers:

[20Four]

08-now. he's been a top 3 player in the nba since 2004 tho.
What a dumbass B|tch

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[Just2McFly]

I've thought he was the best since 07, but you can argue for other people

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

2008-ish

The game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feTymdqcNOU) he came into LA and stole Kobe's belongings. :lol

[Magic 32]

2008-ish

The game (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feTymdqcNOU) he came into LA and stole Kobe's belongings. :lol

Right, the game when the Lakers were reeling from the Bunym injury and had just come back from back-2-back games in Texas.

Lakers had ZERO interior defense between Bynum and Gasol.

Do wanna take a look at their 09 games instead?