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senelcoolidge
05-22-2014, 02:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEd17taOrmA
Small drug offenders among many others are executed every year in China. I have little to no tolerance for drugs, but this is extreme. People have it so good in the U.S. even the criminals.
MrC1991
05-22-2014, 02:45 PM
I think China is just offing people left and right for population control.
Akrazotile
05-22-2014, 03:00 PM
China is too extreme, but the US is too lax, IMO.
Violent criminals in our society get out too easily and get too many chances. They should just be deported to outsourced prisons in cheap, remote parts of the planet. Save us money and reduce domestic crime.
we need to step up our game in executions
DukeDelonte13
05-22-2014, 03:14 PM
China is too extreme, but the US is too lax, IMO.
Violent criminals in our society get out too easily and get too many chances. They should just be deported to outsourced prisons in cheap, remote parts of the planet. Save us money and reduce domestic crime.
do you know how f*cked up american prisons are?
and the US isn't lax at all, US has the highest incarceration to population ratio in the world.
GimmeThat
05-22-2014, 03:17 PM
Every country is going through its own civil war
China's involve that of supply, production, and demands
U.S. that of laws, policy, and orders
Akrazotile
05-22-2014, 03:47 PM
do you know how f*cked up american prisons are?
and the US isn't lax at all, US has the highest incarceration to population ratio in the world.
Yeah but dude it's because we have to keep incarcerating the same people over and over, and in between sentences they're back on on the street procreating.
In 2010, the incarceration rate for white men under local, state and federal jurisdiction was 678 inmates per 100,000 white U.S. residents; for black men, it was 4,347. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black men were more than six times as likely as white men to be incarcerated in 2010.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/09/06/incarceration-gap-between-whites-and-blacks-widens/
I'm not saying at all that it's "black people" in general. I'm saying it's the same black people, from the same communities, who get incarcerated over and over. I mean, there's no question about this. Blacks from these areas have the highest incarceration rate AND the highest birth rates. How the hell can that be possible??? Unless they're just making kids left and right in between jail terms. Which they are, because trust me, I've been living around this stuff for the last 7 years of my life. I know more specific examples BY NAME than I could count on both hands.
This problem isn't getting solved because we simply have too many sensitivity cowards in this country. People who don't want to DO anything, just want to be heard "saying" what's popular and progressive so they can fit in. Liberals in this country are like the daycare employee who's tied up in a chair with a rag in her mouth while all the kids are running around screaming and causing havoc, and she's so proud of herself that she wasn't like those mean old previous-generation nannies who were no fun and make the kids eat broccoli and do homework. These people are such cowards it's unreal to fathom. They're not action takers, and the media knows this so they've created a culture where the softer you are, the cooler you are, and the insecure youth of today have run with it. These kids EAT IT UP. They don't think for themselves, they don't think outside the box, they don't think in terms of reality, they just know the talking points and want to keep looking cool by repeating them. And it's a serious blow to the health of both specific communities and America as a whole.
Anyway, just wanted to come out of retirement to make that point.
As stated in the video, nobody knows how many people are executed in China yearly. Surely it's more than in the US, but the 4000 figure is nothing more than a shot in the dark.
~primetime~
05-22-2014, 03:54 PM
do you know how f*cked up american prisons are?
they're complete hell...I'd rather be executed than live out life in a US prison
a fckin guard will rape your ass in our prisons
that's how we like it though, that's what gets the FEAR in people...just a shame when an innocent gets thrown in :/
fiddy
05-22-2014, 03:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEd17taOrmA
Small drug offenders among many others are executed every year in China. I have little to no tolerance for drugs, but this is extreme. People have it so good in the U.S. even the criminals.
Well its a pretty lucrative business and you pay for it.
CavaliersFTW
05-22-2014, 03:56 PM
Drip in a pond. That's one in every Three Hundred Forty Thousand people.
I like it. I'm not doing anything wrong and so is my family, or good friends. We should definitely implement more of this here. People need to learn!
bdreason
05-22-2014, 03:59 PM
A lot more money to be made by keeping people locked up. Learn to privatize China.
fiddy
05-22-2014, 04:01 PM
I like it. I'm not doing anything wrong and so is my family, or good friends. We should definitely implement more of this here. People need to learn!
So you have no problem with people being hung over 50 grams of weed?
MrC1991
05-22-2014, 04:07 PM
No one should be executed over some pot lol
russwest0
05-22-2014, 04:11 PM
I think China is just offing people left and right for population control.
as they should.
it's also essentially what we do in the US with shit like marijuana being illegal
D-FENS
05-22-2014, 04:16 PM
I think China is just offing people left and right for population control.
And it's a great thing to do. More countries should follow suit.
BasedTom
05-22-2014, 04:17 PM
All the criminals and scum in this country take pride in going to prison. They do not fear it. They do not need to adapt to the corrupt, uncivilized environment, because that is the way they have always lived their lives.
Only the innocent truly suffer punishment under the current system.
MrC1991
05-22-2014, 04:19 PM
as they should.
it's also essentially what we do in the US with shit like marijuana being illegal
So you think some dude who just wants to get high should get offed over some reefer?
oarabbus
05-22-2014, 04:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEd17taOrmA
Small drug offenders among many others are executed every year in China. I have little to no tolerance for drugs, but this is extreme. People have it so good in the U.S. even the criminals.
That statement suggests you support the war on drugs. If so... you don't think rationally or critically.
DukeDelonte13
05-22-2014, 05:05 PM
All the criminals and scum in this country take pride in going to prison. They do not fear it. They do not need to adapt to the corrupt, uncivilized environment, because that is the way they have always lived their lives.
Only the innocent truly suffer punishment under the current system.
I've seen hardened gangsters uncontrollably break down when they get sent down. Sane people absolutely fear it. Only the mentally unstable or borderline mentally disabled people don't fear prison.
American Prisons are some of the world's most violent. People die in prison all the time. Guard on prisoner violence and prisoner v. prisoner. It's not unusual for a prisoner to get beat to death by a guard.
Sometimes you get lucky and the particular facility you get sent to isn't so bad, but there are some places where it's literally hell on earth.
MadeFromDust
05-22-2014, 05:06 PM
Wait, you aren't counting all the extra-judicial murders that the popo commit every single day...something like 1200+ just in the last year alone.
Akrazotile
05-22-2014, 05:08 PM
American Prisons are some of the world's most violent. People die in prison all the time. Guard on prisoner violence and prisoner v. prisoner. It's not unusual for a prisoner to get beat to death by a guard.
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Ok. So why is that?
IMO identifying the root causes of something is the first step toward changing it.
Duke Delonte, why do you suppose American prisons are some of the worlds most violent?
DukeDelonte13
05-22-2014, 05:09 PM
Ok. So why is that?
IMO identifying the root causes of something is the first step toward changing it.
Duke Delonte, why do you suppose American prisons are some of the worlds most violent?
because as a melting pot country our prisoners are a mix of peoples that hate each other.
EDIT: i think there was a california facility that experimented with segregating population based on race and they had phenomenal results.
The_Night_Elf
05-22-2014, 05:13 PM
No way the US should let China beat them at anything! US has to take the lead on that, TODAY! USA! USA! USA!
MadeFromDust
05-22-2014, 05:13 PM
Yeah but dude it's because we have to keep incarcerating the same people over and over, and in between sentences they're back on on the street procreating.
I'm not saying at all that it's "black people" in general. I'm saying it's the same black people, from the same communities, who get incarcerated over and over. I mean, there's no question about this. Blacks from these areas have the highest incarceration rate AND the highest birth rates. How the hell can that be possible??? Unless they're just making kids left and right in between jail terms. Which they are, because trust me, I've been living around this stuff for the last 7 years of my life. I know more specific examples BY NAME than I could count on both hands.
This problem isn't getting solved because we simply have too many sensitivity cowards in this country. People who don't want to DO anything, just want to be heard "saying" what's popular and progressive so they can fit in. Liberals in this country are like the daycare employee who's tied up in a chair with a rag in her mouth while all the kids are running around screaming and causing havoc, and she's so proud of herself that she wasn't like those mean old previous-generation nannies who were no fun and make the kids eat broccoli and do homework. These people are such cowards it's unreal to fathom. They're not action takers, and the media knows this so they've created a culture where the softer you are, the cooler you are, and the insecure youth of today have run with it. These kids EAT IT UP. They don't think for themselves, they don't think outside the box, they don't think in terms of reality, they just know the talking points and want to keep looking cool by repeating them. And it's a serious blow to the health of both specific communities and America as a whole.
Anyway, just wanted to come out of retirement to make that point.
Dayummm well said :cheers:
So you have no problem with people being hung over 50 grams of weed?
Weed? Weed is shit. I'm talking about high profile criminal drug dealers and drug lords bro. Lol my fault ..
Hang them by the balls. Make the world safer.
BasedTom
05-22-2014, 05:23 PM
Weed? Weed is shit. I'm talking about high profile criminal drug dealers and drug lords bro. Lol my fault ..
Hang them by the balls. Make the world safer.
Where do we draw the line? Alcohol, weed, cocaine?
You have some people that legitimately believe that weed is some sort of crazy hardcore drug that you can overdose with. Then you have people like me who think LSD, heroin, cocaine are just fine. They aren't harmless obviously, but it is my thought that a responsible adult should have the freedom to use them in the privacy of their own home.
Part of the reason why there's all these drug lords and powerful syndicates thriving is because of strict drug laws and the culture surrounding it. There will always be a demand for these drugs, let us be realistic.
MadeFromDust
05-22-2014, 05:35 PM
Where do we draw the line? Alcohol, weed, cocaine?
You have some people that legitimately believe that weed is some sort of crazy hardcore drug that you can overdose with. Then you have people like me who think LSD, heroin, cocaine are just fine. They aren't harmless obviously, but it is my thought that a responsible adult should have the freedom to use them in the privacy of their own home.
Part of the reason why there's all these drug lords and powerful syndicates thriving is because of strict drug laws and the culture surrounding it. There will always be a demand for these drugs, let us be realistic.
Bcuz people can't concentrate and do things right as is, much less when their minds are altered by unnatural concoctions of natural (or unnatural) substances. People are already a danger to themselves and others through mere human nature...anger/murder, covet/theft, neglegence/etc. Put them behind the wheel of a car and watch the risk and danger skyrocket.
I got an idea: Why doesn't the white house just shove "ObamaPharm" down our throats just like ObamaCare? Then human nature will inevitably cause everyone to oppose drugs and the market will dry up. BAM! wore on drugs = ova :pimp:
We draw the line on drugs that are illegal both state and federal. Weed isn't much to be looked at. I'm thinking cocaine, meth, I don't know I'm not a crack pop and I got a D- in drugs and behavior class but we need to start.
I mean.. It's never going to happen here. But it should.
The golden rule. If they made all drugs legal, but you never drugged in your life would you do it? No.
So why be afraid of such laws. Only downside is the framing of the innocent and harming potential life.
KyleKong
05-22-2014, 06:02 PM
I think China is just offing people left and right for population control.
This x1000
Verticality
05-22-2014, 10:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEd17taOrmA
Small drug offenders among many others are executed every year in China. I have little to no tolerance for drugs, but this is extreme. People have it so good in the U.S. even the criminals.
The number in the US is too low, China's too high.
MrC1991
05-22-2014, 11:11 PM
Going to have to try harder, 4000 ain't shit.
lol you want em to get on some Holocaust shit? and didn't the last Chairman of China end up killing more people than Hitler anyways.
russwest0
05-22-2014, 11:26 PM
So you think some dude who just wants to get high should get offed over some reefer?
nah.
we do need to make abortion legal in all states and encourage it though. this overpopulation shit ain't no joke
sundizz
05-22-2014, 11:43 PM
Yeah, the real problem is that the same people keep getting sent in over and over.
Once you go to prison it's so damn hard to get a job with that on your record. Who wants to be flipping burgers (at best)....at some point you'll want to come up on some monies and you got that me vs. the world attitude after prison.
I think rehab is a joke. Some people had a screwed up childhood....they are broken and are bound to mess up. Life isn't fair. But because they had a bad childhood doesn't mean they should be allowed to mess up the lives of 20+ people. I think getting offed should happen in a lot of cases. We value life way too much in the US...too much damn Hollywood.
I'd rather 50 hardened criminals get offed and use that same taxpayer money to help starving and poor children have better childhoods (so they don't turn into criminals).
Out of every 100 people that get locked up for serious stuff, i'd say maybe 3 or 4 are actually truly rehabbed and become "good" people. It's impossible for them....they come out and will be surrounded by friends that do criminal stuff.
Armed robberry = offed
Murder = offed
Corporate embezzlement = offed
Rape = offed
Lying about rape = offed
Gang Assault (2+ vs. 1) = offed
Public endangerment (pulling a gun out in public and waving it around) = offed
Problem in this country is that everything is too damn litigious. People shouldn't be scared of cops. However, if me and my cousin had a domestic dispute...say we got angry and started fighting. If someone called the cops one of us could very well end up with a misdemeanor or something based on a tiny moment of passion. That stupid black mark turns your life upside down. It's absolutely nonsense. Same with like drinking and passing out on the curb or something. Cops should protect you...put you in a drunk tank room and wish you a good day the next day. Not charge you with some "crime".
Marlo_Stanfield
05-22-2014, 11:46 PM
that doesnt make the USA ANY better.
fuqqing medieval shithole of a country.
acting like they are the most advanced country yet still execute people like its 1400.
fuqing DISGUSTING pathetic excuse of a country the USA are:coleman:
Marlo_Stanfield
05-22-2014, 11:49 PM
Yeah, the real problem is that the same people keep getting sent in over and over.
Once you go to prison it's so damn hard to get a job with that on your record. Who wants to be flipping burgers (at best)....at some point you'll want to come up on some monies and you got that me vs. the world attitude after prison.
I think rehab is a joke. Some people had a screwed up childhood....they are broken and are bound to mess up. Life isn't fair. But because they had a bad childhood doesn't mean they should be allowed to mess up the lives of 20+ people. I think getting offed should happen in a lot of cases. We value life way too much in the US...too much damn Hollywood.
I'd rather 50 hardened criminals get offed and use that same taxpayer money to help starving and poor children have better childhoods (so they don't turn into criminals).
Out of every 100 people that get locked up for serious stuff, i'd say maybe 3 or 4 are actually truly rehabbed and become "good" people. It's impossible for them....they come out and will be surrounded by friends that do criminal stuff.
Armed robberry = offed
Murder = offed
Corporate embezzlement = offed
Rape = offed
Lying about rape = offed
Gang Assault (2+ vs. 1) = offed
Public endangerment (pulling a gun out in public and waving it around) = offed
Problem in this country is that everything is too damn litigious. People shouldn't be scared of cops. However, if me and my cousin had a domestic dispute...say we got angry and started fighting. If someone called the cops one of us could very well end up with a misdemeanor or something based on a tiny moment of passion. That stupid black mark turns your life upside down. It's absolutely nonsense. Same with like drinking and passing out on the curb or something. Cops should protect you...put you in a drunk tank room and wish you a good day the next day. Not charge you with some "crime".
What about spreading the wealth of the rich amongst everyone??
like 5 % of the richest American people own 95% of all amrican private money.
what about making them pay 50% taxes or even 75%?? that wouldnt hurt them one bit and they would still be filthy rich.
oh wait, thats considered communism in america and thats a bad bad thing right??:facepalm :facepalm
Akrazotile
05-23-2014, 12:04 AM
nah.
we do need to make abortion legal in all states and encourage it though. this overpopulation shit ain't no joke
I think encouraging voluntary sterilization is a better approach. But you would first have to take away the financial incentive for low income people to have kids before many would volunteer to undergo reproductive procedures.
MavsSuperFan
05-23-2014, 12:13 AM
lol you want em to get on some Holocaust shit? and didn't the last Chairman of China end up killing more people than Hitler anyways.
6 million jewish people died during the holocaust.
6 million people would the smallest city in china.
Droid101
05-23-2014, 12:57 AM
Why do you have no tolerance for drugs? If someone uses them, it doesn't hurt you.
Droid101
05-23-2014, 12:58 AM
6 million jewish people died during the holocaust.
6 million people would the smallest city in china.
Mao killed 45 million people. Hitler would be jealous.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/maos-great-leap-forward-killed-45-million-in-four-years-2081630.html
DonD13
05-23-2014, 01:59 AM
civilized countries don't have death penalty
Marlo_Stanfield
05-23-2014, 09:24 AM
civilized countries don't have death penalty
this
USA are a medieval country controlled by a few companies
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