Why is anything Nazi related still considered offensive?

[The Iron Sheik]

the holocaust happened a long time ago and almost all of the guys who committed those horrible deeds (as far as we know) are either dead or have been punished. Jews are no longer being rounded up and exterminated like dogs, so why can't someone use a swaztika for its original meaning? (peace, I think. It's from Hinduism) people just seem so sensitive over stuff that's gone and passed.

[ForeverHeat]

Because its a insult to the memory of those who died. Its out of respect that you dont use a logo that represented the suffering inflicted on millions. I dont really get what your not understanding here.

[PullupJay]

http://underthegoldengnome.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/sheik.jpg

[fiddy]

the holocaust allegedly happened a long time ago and almost all of the guys who committed those horrible deeds (as far as we know) are either dead or have been punished. Jews are no longer being rounded up and exterminated like dogs, so why can't someone use a swaztika for its original meaning? (peace, I think. It's from Hinduism) people just seem so sensitive over stuff that's gone and passed.
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[macmac]

Ya people always get angry when I decorate my front lawn trees with ropes around black faces

What's the big deal? It's my way of paying respect to my favourite director.

[The Iron Sheik]

Because its a insult to the memory of those who died. Its out of respect that you dont use a logo that represented the suffering inflicted on millions. I dont really get what your not understanding here.

they're just being overly sensitive. most modern day Jews weren't in concentration camps

[macmac]

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Ah, Eastern Europe. The unwashed asshole of the world

[~primetime~]

Nazi symbolism still stands for and represents the exact same things lol

[fiddy]

Ah, Eastern Europe. The unwashed asshole of the world
regardless of the fact we are poor, EE is still a better place to live in than 50% of the earth like India, China, Most of Africa, Middle East, and some parts of SA.

[ForeverHeat]

they're just being overly sensitive. most modern day Jews weren't in concentration camps

Dude... something doesnt have to happen to you directly for you to feel strongly about it.

[fiddy]

Nazi symbolism still stands for and represents the exact same things lol
Unfortunately swastika is still linked to Hitler but its an ancient symbol with positive meaning


The swastika (卐) (Sanskrit: स्वस्तिक) is a symbol that generally takes the form of an equilateral cross, with its four arms bent at 90 degrees. The earliest archaeological evidence of swastika-shaped ornaments dates back to the Indus Valley Civilization as well as the Mediterranean Classical Antiquity and paleolithic Europe. Swastikas have been used in various other ancient civilizations around the world including Turkic, India, Iran, Armenia, Nepal, China, Japan, Korea and Europe. It remains widely used in Indian religions, specifically in Buddhism, Hinduism, and Jainism, primarily as a tantric symbol that invokes Lakshmi - the Vedic goddess of wealth, prosperity and auspiciousness.

The word "swastika" comes from the Sanskrit svastika - "su" (meaning "good" or "auspicious") combined with "asti" (meaning "being")[citation needed], along with the diminutive suffix "ka." The swastika literally means "well-being." It is a common practice for Hindus to draw Swastika symbols on the doors and entrances to their houses during festivals, which is believed to symbolize an invitation to goddess Lakshmi.[1] The name "sauwastika" is sometimes given to the left-facing arms symbol, which is a mirror image of swastika (卍).[2]

[macmac]

regardless of the fact we are poor, EE is still a better place to live in than 50% of the earth like India, China, Most of Africa, Middle East, and some parts of SA.

Not just talking about wealth, but also the racist ignorance and close mindedness which is rampant in those regions. Hope the gypsies sleep with all the future daughters of your country

[fiddy]

Not just talking about wealth, but also the racist ignorance and close mindedness which is rampant in those regions. Hope the gypsies sleep with all the future daughters of your country
hahahhaha millwad#2, stfu dude you are clearly clueless

[The Iron Sheik]

Dude... something doesnt have to happen to you directly for you to feel strongly about it.

true but when something happens decades ago and didn't happen to you, at what point do you just...let it go? do you hold a grudge forever?

[macmac]

hahahhaha millwad#2, stfu dude you are clearly clueless

Clueless about what exactly? About how racist your country men are? You just made a great display of it in here. You have only to travel a few miles to visit the nearest concentration camp, but you prefer to repeat the words of your toothless neighbours.

Leave the shack where your village shares it's one online desktop, and see the world with your own eyes instead of believing the words of your inbred god forsaken family members that have already given hope on becoming functioning members of modern society

[ForeverHeat]

true but when something happens decades ago and didn't happen to you, at what point do you just...let it go? do you hold a grudge forever?

You cannot let it go. It has to be represented as a stain on history that will never be washed away, just like slavery. It also helps to ensure similar acts will not be repeated in the future.

[fiddy]

Clueless about what exactly? About how racist your country men are? You just made a great display of it in here. You have only to travel a few miles to visit the nearest concentration camp, but you prefer to repeat the words of your toothless neighbours.

Leave the shack where your village shares it's one online desktop, and see the world with your own eyes instead of believing the words of your inbred god forsaken family members that have already given hope on becoming functioning members of modern society
As a matter of fact i went to the biggest concentration camp in 2010 in Poland when i was exchange student. So please save your stupidity. You made it clear you know nothing about EE. Theres more racism in Italy than in Bulgaria. :facepalm

[Akrazotile]

regardless of the fact we are poor, EE is still a better place to live in than 50% of the earth like India, China, Most of Africa, Middle East, and some parts of SA.


Well the Riverwalk isn't too bad, but I agree with you that other parts of the city can be a little 'yikes'. And they do got those big ol women down there as Chuck said.

[fiddy]

Well the Riverwalk isn't too bad, but I agree with you that other parts of the city can be a little 'yikes'. And they do got those big ol women down there as Chuck said.
SA=South America for the retarded :coleman:

[DukeDelonte13]

As a matter of fact i went to the biggest concentration camp in 2010 in Poland when i was exchange student. So please save your stupidity. You made it clear you know nothing about EE. Theres more racism in Italy than in Bulgaria. :facepalm


don't talk down about Italy you inbred gypsy.




but is OP really that stupid or is just trolling?

[fiddy]

don't talk down about Italy you inbred gypsy.




but is OP really that stupid or is just trolling?
South Italy is as bad as the Balkans, so whats your point you aryan monster? Italians are not racists? sure sure...

[The Iron Sheik]

don't talk down about Italy you inbred gypsy.




but is OP really that stupid or is just trolling?

>holocaust happened a long time ago
>very few Jews who experienced it are living today. at least they are in the minority of jews
>Jews aren't being blatantly targeted and oppressed today like back then
>ergo, why should it still be relevant today? why are people still sensitive about it?

[ForeverHeat]

>holocaust happened a long time ago
>very few Jews who experienced it are living today. at least they are in the minority of jews
>Jews aren't being blatantly targeted and oppressed today like back then
>ergo, why should it still be relevant today? why are people still sensitive about it?

Firstly, Jews are sensitive as fvck over a lot of bullshit reasons. But the holocaust is actually one of the few reasons they have to be angry.

It also wasnt a long time ago. Some people from the holocaust are still alive today.

[nightprowler10]

Because the history we're taught is almost exclusively Euro-centric and the holocaust is still relatively a recent event in that history.

Speaking of which, people completely ignore Nanking, another atrocity on the other side of the world that happened at the same, and many of the Japanese soldiers that committed these atrocities are not only free but are employed in high office positions. But it didn't happen in the West so it doesn't matter. Oh and you know how Germany squashes anything to do with Nazi-ism in Germany and seemingly keeps an eye on it? Japan doesn't even recognize that did anything or teach it in schools.

[JohnnySic]

Because the history we're taught is almost exclusively Euro-centric and the holocaust is still relatively a recent event in that history.

Speaking of which, people completely ignore Nanking, another atrocity on the other side of the world that happened at the same, and many of the Japanese soldiers that committed these atrocities are not only free but are employed in high office positions. But it didn't happen in the West so it doesn't matter. Oh and you know how Germany squashes anything to do with Nazi-ism in Germany and seemingly keeps an eye on it? Japan doesn't even recognize that did anything or teach it in schools.
This is true. The Japanese killed something like 20 million Chinese but only like 8 people in the world know this.

[fiddy]

This is true. The Japanese killed something like 20 million Chinese but only like 8 people in the world know this.
There are worse examples of genocides, but they dont serve the agenda of the chosen ones and if you say anything belittling about the holocaust or jews you are considered anti-semite

[BasedTom]

Because the history we're taught is almost exclusively Euro-centric and the holocaust is still relatively a recent event in that history.

Speaking of which, people completely ignore Nanking, another atrocity on the other side of the world that happened at the same, and many of the Japanese soldiers that committed these atrocities are not only free but are employed in high office positions. But it didn't happen in the West so it doesn't matter. Oh and you know how Germany squashes anything to do with Nazi-ism in Germany and seemingly keeps an eye on it? Japan doesn't even recognize that did anything or teach it in schools.
Funny how history classes completely ignore the brutality and rape that the Bolsheviks did to Germany, as well as their criminal occupation for years later. (there are even still a few monuments to the soviets in eastern germany) Or how it wasn't just jews targeted in the Holocaust, but all sorts of political enemies.

You also won't hear much about how the "valiant" Allies also bombed countless cities targeting civilians. None of this is considered important compared to the holocaust- as if it was the most important event in human history. It's a shame. Both World Wars were destructive, yet all people are taught about is the holocaust.

[ForeverHeat]

There are worse examples of genocides, but they dont serve the agenda of the chosen ones and if you say anything belittling about the holocaust or jews you are considered anti-semite

You are definitely right about that. Its funny cause Jews are destroying the hell out of Palestine yet still call themselves victims.

[nightprowler10]

Yeah, please nobody take my post to say I am trivializing the holocaust in any way, but had it happened on the other side of the world to another (Kurds anybody?) we wouldn't give two ****s about it.

[oarabbus]

regardless of the fact we are poor, EE is still a better place to live in than 50% of the earth like India, China, Most of Africa, Middle East, and some parts of SA.


:roll: :roll:

India and China + the Middle East (especially places like Dubai) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eastern europe

[Relinquish]

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Don't be an idiot :facepalm

[fiddy]

:roll: :roll:

India and China + the Middle East (especially places like Dubai) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eastern europe
in terms of personal freedom, human rights and comfort EE>>>>>China or India

What about Egypt? Iraq? Jordan? Yemen? Syria?

im not even going to comment on US' petro dollar buddies, we are not in the conversations with people that have golden floors

[ForeverHeat]

in terms of personal freedom, human rights and comfort EE>>>>>China or India

What about Egypt? Iraq? Jordan? Yemen? Syria?

im not even going to comment on US' petro dollar buddies, we are not in the conversations with people that have golden floors

Egypt >>>>>>>> EE

Their recent war made them look bad but they are rich and have a thriving society, especially in places like Cairo.

People overrate the Middle Easts problems. They are mostly affected by war, but the personal rights thing is blown out of proportion. Media brainwashes people.

[step_back]

the holocaust happened a long time ago and almost all of the guys who committed those horrible deeds (as far as we know) are either dead or have been punished. Jews are no longer being rounded up and exterminated like dogs, so why can't someone use a swaztika for its original meaning? (peace, I think. It's from Hinduism) people just seem so sensitive over stuff that's gone and passed.

You'll see the Swastika all over places in India as it's a sign which essentially means to bring good fortune in Hinduism.

However the symbol is too easily recognized as the symbol of the Nazi party and will forever be associated with it. No chance it ever goes back to what it was originally known for.

[fiddy]

Egypt >>>>>>>> EE

Their recent war made them look bad but they are rich and have a thriving society, especially in places like Cairo.

People overrate the Middle Easts problems. They are mostly affected by war, but the personal rights thing is blown out of proportion. Media brainwashes people.
No thanks. Im good living in poor Bulgaria, rather than being killed for being a christian in Egypt or having to live with a girl that wears sheet

[ForeverHeat]

No thanks. Im good living in poor Bulgaria, rather than being killed for being a christian in Egypt or having to live with a girl that wears sheet

Your comments just prove peoples points about Eastern Europeans being racist and less educated. Its rare for a christian to be killed in Egypt, just cause something is on the news it doesnt mean its a regular thing. Trayvon Martin getting killed doesnt mean that black people should avoid America cause it aint safe for black people.

This dont look like a sheet to me :confusedshrug:

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/ce/fb/b5/cefbb57a49accb6a0701efa14283fc31.jpg

[fiddy]

Your comments just prove peoples points about Eastern Europeans being racist and less educated. Its rare for a christian to be killed in Egypt, just cause something is on the news it doesnt mean its a regular thing. Trayvon Martin getting killed doesnt mean that black people should avoid America cause it aint safe for black people.

This dont look like a sheet to me :confusedshrug:

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/ce/fb/b5/cefbb57a49accb6a0701efa14283fc31.jpg
pls save your efforts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPnpIbpqHXc

BTW thanks to the U.S. muslims are considered terrorist, pls talk about prejudices :oldlol:

[ForeverHeat]

pls save your efforts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPnpIbpqHXc

BTW thanks to the U.S. muslims are considered terrorist, pls talk about prejudices :oldlol:

And thanks to television Eastern Europeans are considered gypsies that live in caravans, are always drunk, kill foreigners and squat in your houses. Its funny how you dont want anyone to be prejudice to you but your happy to do it to others.

And that video is a set up. Have you ever even been to Cairo?

[MadeFromDust]

Because we adhere to the saying, "Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it"

[fiddy]

And thanks to television Eastern Europeans are considered gypsies that live in caravans, are always drunk, kill foreigners and squat in your houses. Its funny how you dont want anyone to be prejudice to you but your happy to do it to others.

And that video is a set up. Have you ever even been to Cairo?
We have ethnicity issues, we are literally being overrun by gypsies, people in the west dont realize how bad the situation is. There are more ethnic bulgarians outside of the country than inside and the situation is getting worse every year. Want confirmation ask other posters from the balkans like andrei89, coss88 and other. I have no problem with people being prejudice against us, as long as the stereotype is true. And get over it, Egypt is in the fvcking dessert theres no way its better place to live in than 4 four season eastern europe. Foreigners being killed? lol wtf this is the 21st century, homie.

[GimmeThat]

the same way I highly doubt that the term gay would ever mean happy again

besides amongst the intellectual circle of course


now, if you think that being an intellectual is a privilege
you may as well let school interfere with your education

[ForeverHeat]

We have ethnicity issues, we are literally being overrun by gypsies, people in the west dont realize how bad the situation is. There are more ethnic bulgarians outside of the country than inside and the situation is getting worse every year. Want confirmation ask other posters from the balkans like andrei89, coss88 and other. I have no problem with people being prejudice against us, as long as the stereotype is true. And get over it, Egypt is in the fvcking dessert theres no way its better place to live in than 4 four season eastern europe. Foreigners being killed? lol wtf this is the 21st century, homie.

Yeah, its all desert....

http://www.travcotravel.com/images/destinations/overview/Cairo.jpg

Plus a lot of people would prefer Egypts constant heat to the typical four season climate, in which 2 and a half of those seasons are absolute shit.

Anyway at the end of the day people have their opinions and they will never change so its a waste of time trying to convince anyone of anything.

[ForeverHeat]

the same way I highly doubt that the term gay would ever mean happy again

besides amongst the intellectual circle of course


now, if you think that being an intellectual is a privilege
you may as well let school interfere with your education

No intellectuals will use gay to mean happy. You can express your happiness with many other words, not use one that used to mean something that it doesnt mean anymore. Thats being a hipster douche.

[fiddy]

Yeah, its all desert....

http://www.travcotravel.com/images/destinations/overview/Cairo.jpg

Plus a lot of people would prefer Egypts constant heat to the typical four season climate, in which 2 and a half of those seasons are absolute shit.

Anyway at the end of the day people have their opinions and they will never change so its a waste of time trying to convince anyone of anything.
1 shitty season, people prefer constant 100F (40C)? dont make laugh you are getting ridiculous with your arguments
:facepalm
http://enviro-map.com/maps/sahara_map.jpg

[jamal99]

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[MadeFromDust]

http://x2.fjcdn.com/comments/It+s+like+Batman+Begins+just+much+more+beautiful+_ 42779de2df0f5c6d13544bc6ed228c3d.jpg

[The Iron Sheik]

Why is slavery still considered offensive? That was like so long ago.

that seems to be the sentiment of a lot of posters here.

[KevinNYC]

and many of the Japanese soldiers that committed these atrocities are not only free but are employed in high office positions.

?
That was damn near 80 years ago. Most of them are dead.

[Duggrr]

Because of the way U.S. schools portray WWII (I don't know how Europe does it) and largely due to the Nazis killing Jews. If they killed Arabs, Indians or Asians, people would forget about the holocaust much quicker.

[Droid101]

Still can't display Nazi paraphernalia in movies or video games in Germany. Makes for some silly video games.

They just straight up blacked them out in Stick of Truth:

http://ggtriple.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/south-park-the-stick-of-truth-german-swastika-black-bar-censorship.jpg

[B-Easy8]

My grandparents lived and fought through WW2 but now like Germans. They always said the Italians were the real dogs of the war.

I think if people who lived and fought them can get over it. Jewish media certainly should be able to also.

[macmac]

Its because we live in a world run by American and European Jews. They dislike the NAZIS for obvious reasons, so of cors they dont want anything associated with them out in the public. I have a reason to hate the NAZIS just as much as Jews......they put my family into concentration camps, killed others, and supported the extermination of Slavs. However I dont think their insignia, or images should be banned.

The Nazis were no worse than the British, Americans, Spanish, French, Moors, Russians, Portuguese etc. All great empires went around murdering millons of innocent people for their own greater good.

You think Indian/Aboriginal/African people hate the Nazis? No, they hate the British/French etc. You think the Vietnamese hate the Nazis? No,they hate the French and Americans. You think the central Asian republics hate the Nazis? No they hate the Russians. I hate the Nazis for what they did to my people, but I understand that they werent the first. I dont think they should be deleted from history.

PS. Has anyone heard of the Bengali Famine? It was pretty much a holocaust of 4 million Indians by the British government during World War 2. Should we ban the Union Jack now? Of cors its not going to happen, because history is written by the victor. The same think happened to Napolean as it has with Hitler. Napoleon was the Hitler of his time, the whole of Europe hated him. He also killed millions, invaded Russia and lost etc. Talkin about Napolean was frowned upon for decades in Europe following his defeat. The same thing will happen to Hitler and the Nazis memory. The only people who will really remember his crimes will be the groupd directly targeted by his regime, while the rest of the world will come to see him as a great controversial figure from history (Like Julius Caeser, Genghis Khan, Atilla the Hun, Mao Ze Dong etc)

So the nazis tortured your family and killed your countrymen, and you "hate them as much as the Jews"....what the fukk did the Jews do to you? For you to say that you have the same hatred for a group that wanted to exterminate your people, it must be some pretty strong factual reasons