Collusion Era Heat vs 2004 Pistons

[sportjames23]

Who you got?

[JT123]

Pistons in 5 at the most. Isn't that what everyone is gonna say? :lol
Even though 2 seconds later they will be calling the Heat the most stacked team of all time again. It all depends on what the agenda of the thread is. :cheers:

[Fiddlesticks]

Pistons in 5.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Heat are the most stacked team of all time, but Pistons in 3.

[Uncle Drew]

Heat = most stacked team in the history of basketball

Pistons in 4.

[DaSeba5]

The Heat in 4-5. Surely the most stacked team of all time should beat everyone.

[sportjames23]

:oldlol:

[hahaitme]

Heat are the most stacked team of all time, but Pistons in 3.

:applause:

[DaSeba5]

Heat are the most stacked team of all time, but Pistons in 3.
:lol

[Beastmode88]

benny and sheed would rape bran's so hard.

[Fiddlesticks]

benny and sheed would rape bran's so hard.
don't use the word rape, that is very inappropriate.

[sportjames23]

don't use the word rape, that is very inappropriate.

LOTS of inappropriate words get used at ISH. Won't stop these nikkas from using them.

[JT123]

The Heat in 4-5. Surely the most stacked team of all time should beat everyone.
You clearly don't get it. The Heat would lose to ANY Championship team of years past in 5 games max! The only time the Heat are stacked is when the agenda of the thread is to discredit Lebron's rings, which doesn't appear to be the goal of this thread in particular.

[Rose'sACL]

2012 heat would beat those pistons in 7 because of defense. i saw those games and if lakers played defense like 2012 heat by forcing turnovers against that pistons team which was not great offensively then yes, lakers would have beaten them.
They didn't even need to play better defense, if shaq got the ball more in that series then it would have been a lakers win or at least a 7 game series.
Shaq-kobe thing cost lakers that series more than pistons defense.

[Fudge]

04 Lakers were stacked and they still lost. :confusedshrug:

And the Heat ARE the most stacked team of all time, but they'd still lose to these Pistons. They were the most perfectly constructed team i've seen in a while.

[ArbitraryWater]

04 Lakers were stacked and they still lost. :confusedshrug:

And the Heat ARE the most stacked team of all time, but they'd still lose to these Pistons. They were the most perfectly constructed team i've seen in a while.

The 04 Lakers were stacked? Definitely not the finals team that played... Malone on one leg, didnt even play the last game.. scored like a total of 15 points throughout the entire series.. Malone was done, and Kobe had one of the worst finals series' ever...

So yeah, how can the Heat be the most stacked team of all time yet lose? Your logic fails again, kiddo. take off your ****in' helmet.

[Fudge]

The 04 Lakers were stacked? Definitely not the finals team that played... Malone on one leg, didnt even play the last game.. scored like a total of 15 points throughout the entire series.. Malone was done, and Kobe had one of the worst finals series' ever...
Do you even know what stacked means?

:oldlol:

Kobe Bryant
Shaquille O'Neal
Karl Malone
Gary Payton

And a bunch of solid role players.

That's stacked. Any way you cut it.


So yeah, how can the Heat be the most stacked team of all time yet lose? Your logic fails again, kiddo.
You can be stacked and still not win the championship. Are you stupid? :facepalm

Dwight's Lakers were stacked, and STILL were shit. So many other examples of teams being stacked, but still didn't end up winning it all.


take off your ****in' helmet.
Put ON your helmet.

[Solefade]

04 Lakers were stacked and they still lost. :confusedshrug:

And the Heat ARE the most stacked team of all time, but they'd still lose to these Pistons. They were the most perfectly constructed team i've seen in a while.


yeah but lebron >>>>> kobe >>>> KD

[Fudge]

yeah but lebron >>>>> kobe >>>> KD
LeKevin Bryrant>>>>

[Relinquish]

04 Lakers were stacked and they still lost. :confusedshrug:

And the Heat ARE the most stacked team of all time, but they'd still lose to these Pistons. They were the most perfectly constructed team i've seen in a while.

Weak trolling attempt. :sleeping

[Flash31]

Hmm Tough contest

The one that gets most people raging with envy,jealousy,hatred,and butthurt
and is MOST STACKED OF ALL ALL TIME!!!!!

or the team that Beat the "Kobe's the MAN NOW" underdog Lakers and "DEFENSE"
but the Pistons weren't in this weak,WEAK! East

so hmm MOST STACKED of ALL TIME or the team that beat Kobe hmm


Im gonna go with

The colluding,evil,bad,disgraceful,colluding,marginall y talented compared to others but MOST STACKED,DRRREAM TEAm,SuperSTAR HOF Top 5 Players yet are not somehow better than 5-30 People currently playing,GOAT Talent yet aren't even close to GOAT to people,ALL Stars,
with the SAVING LEGACIES and BAILING Overrated,ref created "STARS"
"Jesus" Judas Ray Allen and GOAT roleplayers yet suck compared to everybody elses bench,and REF ASSISTED yet won in 2013 with least amount of FTA in History

and the team that became that no one expected and it wasn't THEIR team
and gets people the most enraged with Hate,Jealousy,Pure Envy,Media Brainwash,Winning




Heat in 2!!!

Det QUITS bc theyre irrelevant besides beating Kobe
and Kobe this isn't and DET can't score and there aren't any low 40% fg shooting Stars on the Heat
and there's no Jordan that can't win without having his own rules to help him
and his team win

[Marlo_Stanfield]

benny and sheed would rape bran's so hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hulWhyyM5MM
try again, retard:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Droid101]

04 Lakers were stacked and they still lost. :confusedshrug:

And the Heat ARE the most stacked team of all time, but they'd still lose to these Pistons. They were the most perfectly constructed team i've seen in a while.
Gary Payton: 4pts, 3reb, 4ast, 32%fg, 20%3fg, 50%FT, average in the Finals. STACKED
Karl Malone: 5pts, 7reb, 2ast, 33%fg, 0%3fg, 67%ft, average in the Finals. STACKED

My God how did they lose!

[Fudge]

Hmm Tough contest

The one that gets most people raging with envy,jealousy,hatred,and butthurt
and is MOST STACKED OF ALL ALL TIME!!!!!

or the team that Beat the "Kobe's the MAN NOW" underdog Lakers and "DEFENSE"
but the Pistons weren't in this weak,WEAK! East

so hmm MOST STACKED of ALL TIME or the team that beat Kobe hmm


Im gonna go with

The colluding,evil,bad,disgraceful,colluding,marginall y talented compared to others but MOST STACKED,DRRREAM TEAm,SuperSTAR HOF Top 5 Players yet are not somehow better than 5-30 People currently playing,GOAT Talent yet aren't even close to GOAT to people,ALL Stars,
with the SAVING LEGACIES and BAILING Overrated,ref created "STARS"
"Jesus" Judas Ray Allen and GOAT roleplayers yet suck compared to everybody elses bench,and REF ASSISTED yet won in 2013 with least amount of FTA in History

and the team that became that no one expected and it wasn't THEIR team
and gets people the most enraged with Hate,Jealousy,Pure Envy,Media Brainwash,Winning




Heat in 2!!!

Det QUITS bc theyre irrelevant besides beating Kobe
and Kobe this isn't and DET can't score and there aren't any low 40% fg shooting Stars on the Heat
and there's no Jordan that can't win without having his own rules to help him
and his team win
I need a translator.

[Fudge]

Gary Payton: 4pts, 3reb, 4ast, 32%fg, 20%3fg, 50%FT, average in the Finals. STACKED
Karl Malone: 5pts, 7reb, 2ast, 33%fg, 0%3fg, 67%ft, average in the Finals. STACKED

My God how did they lose!
They played like shit, but they were stacked. Doesn't take away anything. :confusedshrug:

Why do people even get offended when their teams get labelled as stacked?

[Uncle Drew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hulWhyyM5MM
try again, retard:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
2007

[Warfan]

They played like shit, but they were stacked. Doesn't take away anything. :confusedshrug:

Why do people even get offended when their teams get labelled as stacked?

It's because they're stans of a player.

[sd3035]

Lebron GOAT :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Droid101]

They played like shit, but they were stacked. Doesn't take away anything. :confusedshrug:

Why do people even get offended when their teams get labelled as stacked?
Who is offended. I just said the team was stacked, and asked how they could possibly lose?

[Fudge]

Who is offended.
Every LeBron stan that responded to my post.

[Droid101]

Every LeBron stan that responded to my post.
Oh well branstans get offended easily. :cheers:

[Solefade]

Gary Payton: 4pts, 3reb, 4ast, 32%fg, 20%3fg, 50%FT, average in the Finals. STACKED
Karl Malone: 5pts, 7reb, 2ast, 33%fg, 0%3fg, 67%ft, average in the Finals. STACKED

My God how did they lose!


2012 was also stacked with dwight nash and pau..

the common denominator here is kobe so thats probably why they lost :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

[JT123]

2012 was also stacked with dwight nash and pau..

the common denominator here is kobe so thats probably why they lost :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
Bingo! Be careful with comments like this though, otherwise he will put you on his ignore list. :oldlol:

[AintNoSunshine]

Lets see, Lebron destroyed that team literally by himself. Sure Pistons was better in 04 but not as much of an upgrade as Brons supporting cast. Pistons cant score enough points to beat the Heat. Heat in 5

[AintNoSunshine]

Bingo! Be careful with comments like this though, otherwise he will put you on his ignore list. :oldlol:

Kobe stans ignore list should be another way of saying reality

[D.J.]

People are really forgetting how dominant defensively that Pistons squad was. You had Ben Wallace in the middle of his prime, Rasheed Wallace motivated after getting out of Portland, Chauncey Billups still with fresh legs, Rip Hamilton at just 25, and Tayshaun Prince even younger with fresh legs and incredible length to guard multiple positions. They held teams to 70 points like it was nothing and they even had that stretch where teams weren't even scoring 70 points.

In the last 25 years, only the Bulls would beat them. And even then, the Pistons would give them problems. Even though they had no real superstar(unless you want to count Ben), their defensive rotations were arguably the best ever. You almost never saw them getting caught in a screen or beat backdoor.

[Lebron23]

2005 Wade almost beat them. And a 22 yrs.old Lebron in 2007 almost ended their dynasty. The Heat are a back to back NBA champion, and they beaten far superior opponents than the 2004 Pistons opponents in the 2004 NBA playoffs.

[Lebron23]

People are really forgetting how dominant defensively that Pistons squad was. You had Ben Wallace in the middle of his prime, Rasheed Wallace motivated after getting out of Portland, Chauncey Billups still with fresh legs, Rip Hamilton at just 25, and Tayshaun Prince even younger with fresh legs and incredible length to guard multiple positions. They held teams to 70 points like it was nothing and they even had that stretch where teams weren't even scoring 70 points.

In the last 25 years, only the Bulls would beat them. And even then, the Pistons would give them problems. Even though they had no real superstar(unless you want to count Ben), their defensive rotations were arguably the best ever. You almost never saw them getting caught in a screen or beat backdoor.

One hit wonder. One Hit wonder.

[Warfan]

2005 Wade almost beat them. And a 22 yrs.old Lebron in 2007 almost ended their dynasty. The Heat are a back to back NBA champion, and they beaten far superior opponents than the 2004 Pistons opponents in the 2004 NBA playoffs.

The 07 pistons were a much different team than the 04 Pistons. And lol @ the heat have beaten far superiors opponents :facepalm The 04 Pacers are so underrated, better than any east team Miami has played the last few years. Not to mention the 04 Lakers. Dont even want to talk about what shaq would do to the boshtrich...

[Lebron23]

The 07 pistons were a much different team than the 04 Pistons. And lol @ the heat have beaten far superiors opponents :facepalm The 04 Pacers are so underrated, better than any east team Miami has played the last few years. Not to mention the 04 Lakers. Dont even want to talk about what shaq would do to the boshtrich...


2012 and 2013 Heat match up pretty well with the Pistons. Wade and Lebron played historically great against the same Pistons (core players) in the playoffs.

They defeated a dysfunctional Lakers team in the NBA finals who had an injured Malone, a ball hog Kobe, Payton who was outplayed by fisher in the nba finals, and Shaq was the only bright spot for the Lakers. That's why these team never repeat as NBA champion despite playing in a much weaker east.

2005 Miami Heat almost beat the same Pistons team in the 2005 eastern conference finals.

[ImKobe]

Lebron will put up 12 ppg on 30% shooting while Heat get swept

2004 Pistons top 5 GOAT teams.

[VIntageNOvel]

2008 Celtic > 2004 Piston, would be close and one hell of match up

but yeah if old,washed up 2012 celtic nearly upset the heat, i dont see how they can win against piston,

piston in 5

[D.J.]

One hit wonder. One Hit wonder.


They made the Finals back to back seasons and were a few bounces their way away from repeating. That's not a one hit wonder.



2005 Wade almost beat them.


Detroit also almost beat the Spurs in the Finals. It was a one possession game right up until the last half of the 4th quarter of game 7.



And a 22 yrs.old Lebron in 2007 almost ended their dynasty.


Ben Wallace was gone at that point.



The Heat are a back to back NBA champion, and they beaten far superior opponents than the 2004 Pistons opponents in the 2004 NBA playoffs.


The Pistons beat the two time defending conference champs, who were 29-15 under their new coach. They then beat the 61 win Pacers and then the Lakers in the Finals. The Pacers, Celtics, Thunder, and Spurs were on par with them, but to say they were far superior is not true.

[Warfan]

2012 and 2013 Heat match up pretty well with the Pistons. Wade and Lebron played historically great against the same Pistons (core players) in the playoffs.

They defeated a dysfunctional Lakers team in the NBA finals who had an injured Malone, a ball hog Kobe, Payton who was outplayed by fisher in the nba finals, and Shaq was the only bright spot for the Lakers. That's why these team never repeat as NBA champion despite playing in a much weaker east.

2005 Miami Heat almost beat the same Pistons team in the 2005 eastern conference finals.

The 07 Pistons had NO BEN WALLACE or Larry Brown, they werent close to having the all time great calibre of defense that helped them when they won the championship. Wade now isnt as good as he was, and id hate to think how much more trash bosh would be against sheed and Big Ben instead of West and 'Big Roy' :facepalm

The rules would also play a part imo. The Heat havent faced nearly as good a defense as those Detroit teams which is why i think they would struggle. I think it would be a fairly close series, i dont see how u could disagree with that atleast...

[Lebron23]

The 07 Pistons had NO BEN WALLACE or Larry Brown, they werent close to having the all time great calibre of defense that helped them when they won the championship. Wade now isnt as good as he was, and id hate to think how much more trash bosh would be against sheed and Big Ben instead of West and 'Big Roy' :facepalm

The rules would also play a part imo. The Heat havent faced nearly as good a defense as those Detroit teams which is why i think they would struggle. I think it would be a fairly close series, i dont see how u could disagree with that atleast...


It's going to be a very competitive series. 2012 Celtics also had a 98.1 defensive rating.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Lebron will put up 12 ppg on 30% shooting while Heat get swept

2004 Pistons top 5 GOAT teams.
ban. this.retard
not everyone is Kobrick and gets shut down by Tayshaun Prince:roll: :roll:

[Im Still Ballin]

04 Lakers were stacked and they still lost.

And the Heat are the least stacked championship team of all time, but they'd still win against the Pistons. They are the most perfectly constructed team i've seen in a while.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Not sure, but I'd pay to see that hypothetical. :applause:

[GimmeThat]

All depends on how much juice Ray Allen got left still

[Rose'sACL]

People are really forgetting how dominant defensively that Pistons squad was. You had Ben Wallace in the middle of his prime, Rasheed Wallace motivated after getting out of Portland, Chauncey Billups still with fresh legs, Rip Hamilton at just 25, and Tayshaun Prince even younger with fresh legs and incredible length to guard multiple positions. They held teams to 70 points like it was nothing and they even had that stretch where teams weren't even scoring 70 points.

In the last 25 years, only the Bulls would beat them. And even then, the Pistons would give them problems. Even though they had no real superstar(unless you want to count Ben), their defensive rotations were arguably the best ever. You almost never saw them getting caught in a screen or beat backdoor.
bulls and heat would give them the most problems. teams like 04 pistons struggle the most against defense that forces turnovers and are really great in transition.
2012 heat does everything that would cause major problems for that pistons team.
Also, why is everyone bringing 2012 celtics series as an example of heat not doing great when that series went to 7 because bosh got injured. it is pretty hard to adjust in the middle of the playoffs.
That 04 pistons team got taken to 7 games by nets so stop using these useless examples .
Good ball movement, great transition offense and a defense that causes turnovers would give that pistons team a lot of problems.
If lakers just fed shaq a little more than that series would have been completely different. i don't know if shaq was an asshole to kobe or vice-versa but their feud caused that series loss more than pistons defense.

[2010splash]

LMAO, is this some kind of joke. Big 3 era Heat would kick the shiet out of those 2004 Pistons. Remember the 2004 Pistons are one of the worst title teams ever and won it all because Kobe was jacking for Finals MVP. No need to worry about selfish ball hogging at the expense of winning with the Heat. Heat sweep them in 4 most likely, maybe Pistons get 1 game at best.

[NauruDude]

wtf? lEbRON, DwADE AND CO WERE BABIES BACK THEN

[HomieWeMajor]

I played this match on NBA 2K1 on my Dreamcast and Lebron broke the rim so they had to cancel the game.

[sportjames23]

I played this match on NBA 2K1 on my Dreamcast and Lebron broke the rim so they had to cancel the game.

Nikka, Lebron wasn't even born when Dreamcast was out. :mad:


Sike, that nikka was like 12 back then

[deja vu]

Heat is more stacked than 2004 Lakers but I still think Pistons take this one, 4-2.

[Dresta]

2005 Wade almost beat them. And a 22 yrs.old Lebron in 2007 almost ended their dynasty. The Heat are a back to back NBA champion, and they beaten far superior opponents than the 2004 Pistons opponents in the 2004 NBA playoffs.
Yeah, and he probably would have if he hadn't got injured in game 5 (when Heat went up 3-2) missed game 6 (Heat blown out) and was hampered game 7 (close loss). He was dominating the Pistons prior to that: put up 36 and 40 in games 2 and 3.

[D.J.]

That 04 pistons team got taken to 7 games by nets so stop using these useless examples.


It's not useless. The '08 Celtics were taken to game 7 by a 37 win Hawks team. If you're going to discredit the Pistons by needing 7 games to beat the two time defending conference champs who were 29-15 since hiring Lawrence Frank, then discredit the '08 Celtics as well.



If lakers just fed shaq a little more than that series would have been completely different. i don't know if shaq was an asshole to kobe or vice-versa but their feud caused that series loss more than pistons defense.


Bologna. The Lakers lost because of mainly the Pistons defense, combined with Malone being hurt and Payton being outplayed by Fisher. Feeding Shaq the rock more wouldn't matter. When 4/5 of your starting lineup are non-factors, it doesn't matter what Shaq does. Orlando used the same strategy against Cleveland in '09. Let LeBron score 35-40 and shut down everyone else. Orlando was a LeBron buzzer beater away from sweeping.

[Kvnzhangyay]

Pistons pretty easily. Lebron woudl still get his but his team would get shut down (especially bosh :lol )

[SilkkTheShocker]

Heat are supposedly the most stacked team of all time on ISH. But in every hypothetical matchup they are picked to lose :lol

[SilkkTheShocker]

ban. this.retard
not everyone is Kobrick and gets shut down by Tayshaun Prince:roll: :roll:

This :oldlol:

The 04 Pistons were a J-Kidd knee injury away from losing.

[SilkkTheShocker]

benny and sheed would rape bran's so hard.

3rd year LeBron took the 06 Pistons to 7 games with s.hit team. The 04 Lakers almost got swept :oldlol:

[gilalizard]

The Heat in 4-5. Surely the most stacked team of all time should beat everyone.

Naw. Even though the Heat are historically stacked, they lack heart and maturity. They very likely would of fallen apart if the refs hadn't stepped in and kneecapped OKC a couple seasons back. We all saw throughout the playoffs and finals for the past couple of seasons how the refs step in whenever the Heat start looking wobbly.

LeRef is a generational player no argument. Most talented in the league for several years now. But he's weak in the heart and head and needed a LOT of ref help to get over the top.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Naw. Even though the Heat are historically stacked, they lack heart and maturity. They very likely would of fallen apart if the refs hadn't stepped in and kneecapped OKC a couple seasons back. We all saw throughout the playoffs and finals for the past couple of seasons how the refs step in whenever the Heat start looking wobbly.

LeRef is a generational player no argument. Most talented in the league for several years now. But he's weak in the heart and head and needed a LOT of ref help to get over the top.

literally won a title last year with Wade (hurt) averaging 16ppg and Bosh 12ppg in the playoffs. And the Heat for the record shot the least amount of foul shots for a Finals team in NBA history. So basically you're a f.ucking moron.

[Rose'sACL]

It's not useless. The '08 Celtics were taken to game 7 by a 37 win Hawks team. If you're going to discredit the Pistons by needing 7 games to beat the two time defending conference champs who were 29-15 since hiring Lawrence Frank, then discredit the '08 Celtics as well.





Bologna. The Lakers lost because of mainly the Pistons defense, combined with Malone being hurt and Payton being outplayed by Fisher. Feeding Shaq the rock more wouldn't matter. When 4/5 of your starting lineup are non-factors, it doesn't matter what Shaq does. Orlando used the same strategy against Cleveland in '09. Let LeBron score 35-40 and shut down everyone else. Orlando was a LeBron buzzer beater away from sweeping.
Learn to read first because i wasn't discrediting pistons at all for that nets series. i was using that as an example against the fact that people think that heat would lose because they got taken to 7 games by 2012 celtics even though bosh was injured.
no, they weren't. Cavs won 2 games in that series.
Also, why would it not matter if they fed shaq a lot more. he was scoring at a good percentage and anyone who saw that series knows that kobe could have passed a lot of time to shaq instead of shooting really bad shots even by his standards.
Lakers would have taken pistons to 7 even with everyone other than Shaq not playing well if kobe didn't have a problem with shaq.
2004 pistons was not an all time great team just like 2011 mavs weren't an all time great team. pistons won because of shaq-kobe feud and mavs won because lebron choked. 2012 heat would bets 04 pistons in 7 and 2011 mavs in 6.

[imdaman99]

Pistons in 7. I'm not going to say that Pistons team wins any quicker than that. They got taken to 7 by the Nets...who matched up well against them. Sure they shitted on Lakers a lot quicker but I don't know if they match up as well with the Heatles.

[Rose'sACL]

Naw. Even though the Heat are historically stacked, they lack heart and maturity. They very likely would of fallen apart if the refs hadn't stepped in and kneecapped OKC a couple seasons back. We all saw throughout the playoffs and finals for the past couple of seasons how the refs step in whenever the Heat start looking wobbly.

LeRef is a generational player no argument. Most talented in the league for several years now. But he's weak in the heart and head and needed a LOT of ref help to get over the top.
how do they have no heart when after choking away 2011 finals, they have continuously played well in elimination games and have been really really clutch ever since?
If heat had no heart then they would have never got up after that bad 2011 loss. Having heart means that you get stronger after failure unless you mean that having heart means being your favorite team.

[imdaman99]

3rd year LeBron took the 06 Pistons to 7 games with s.hit team. The 04 Lakers almost got swept :oldlol:
I know you're trolling but the 04 Pistons were 100 times the team that the 06 Pistons were :hammerhead:

[AnaheimLakers24]

heat would not show up.

[SilkkTheShocker]

I know you're trolling but the 04 Pistons were 100 times the team that the 06 Pistons were :hammerhead:

Same exact core with Ben Wallace in his last prime year. They had a downgrade in coach and bench, but they still dominated that year. Billups with arguably his best season of career.

Kobe/Shaq/Malone/GP/ with PJ as coach = lost in 5.

LeBron with Flip Murray/Gooden/Big Z/Eric Snow = Took them to 7.

DAT IMPACT :bowdown: :bowdown:

[D.J.]

Learn to read first because i wasn't discrediting pistons at all for that nets series. i was using that as an example against the fact that people think that heat would lose because they got taken to 7 games by 2012 celtics even though bosh was injured.
no, they weren't. Cavs won 2 games in that series.
Also, why would it not matter if they fed shaq a lot more. he was scoring at a good percentage and anyone who saw that series knows that kobe could have passed a lot of time to shaq instead of shooting really bad shots even by his standards.
Lakers would have taken pistons to 7 even with everyone other than Shaq not playing well if kobe didn't have a problem with shaq.
2004 pistons was not an all time great team just like 2011 mavs weren't an all time great team. pistons won because of shaq-kobe feud and mavs won because lebron choked. 2012 heat would bets 04 pistons in 7 and 2011 mavs in 6.


Then you shouldn't have quoted me because you just confirmed what I said. The Pistons are among the best defensive squads to ever go all the way. Regardless of how the Lakers played, they were on top of their game.

And I'm probably old enough to be your father. And given how your mom is, I very well may be your father. Learn some respect young man.

[SilkkTheShocker]

heat would not show up.

Did the Lakers?

[AnaheimLakers24]

Did the Lakers?
i saw them there so :confusedshrug:

[IncarceratedBob]

Who on those Pistons team could stop LeBron? Ben is the only one who has the necessary strength but doesn't have the creativity, stamina or speed. Sheed wasn't a smart enough player, LeBron would get in his head. Rip is too small and weak. Tayshaun has no muscle and could not in any way shape or form stop LeBron.

LeBron 38/12/9
Wade 18/4/4
Bosh 17/7/4

Miami in 5

[AnaheimLakers24]

Who on those Pistons team could stop LeBron? Ben is the only one who has the necessary strength but doesn't have the creativity, stamina or speed. Sheed wasn't a smart enough player, LeBron would get in his head. Rip is too small and weak. Tayshaun has no muscle and could not in any way shape or form stop LeBron.

LeBron 38/12/9
Wade 18/4/4
Bosh 17/7/4

Miami in 5
they shoul add terry or barea than

[bizil]

I'm taking the Heat! Too much explosiveness with Bron and Wade, plus the Heat can be a great defensive team as well. And the Heat's small lineup wouldn't be as big of a factor against the Pistons. They really don't have a dominant low post player, due to Sheed being passive at times dominating down low.

[livinglegend]

As long as ballhog kobrick isnt on Miami s team, Heat wins.
So, in this case, Heat take this in 5.

[diamenz]

As long as ballhog kobrick isnt on Miami s team, Heat wins.
So, in this case, Heat take this in 5.

do you ever take it out of your ass and put it in your mouth?

[Rose'sACL]

Then you shouldn't have quoted me because you just confirmed what I said. The Pistons are among the best defensive squads to ever go all the way. Regardless of how the Lakers played, they were on top of their game.

And I'm probably old enough to be your father. And given how your mom is, I very well may be your father. Learn some respect young man.
nice points you have there. Shaq played very well in all games but one where i though that he shouldn't be given the ball more. no matter what you say, pistons were not some all time elite team. They were an all time elite defensive team though and lakers would have won if not for kobe-shaq feud.
Why would i respect you when you know less about the game than me when you claim that are older than me? that just shows that you're just a retard.