View Full Version : Who Would Win: Superman or Goku
Jameerthefear
05-24-2014, 12:11 PM
All canon material is fair game.
Rules: Both bloodlusted
Takes place in space
(All versions of both are allowed)
ForeverHeat
05-24-2014, 12:13 PM
Superman
This video explains it perfectly. Watch from 26.00 onwards to get the reasoning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyl97TG8jbA
Jameerthefear
05-24-2014, 12:17 PM
No shit it's Superman. Need a Goku fan.
Meticode
05-24-2014, 12:22 PM
Kids.
ForeverHeat
05-24-2014, 12:22 PM
No shit it's Superman. Need a Goku fan.
Superman is a monster with no physical limits. He has the widest range of powers out of almost any fighter, and Goku is the only fighter aside from Gods who can come close.
However, despite all of that, Superman can be killed very easily with kryptonite. So Goku can literally kill him within minutes. But Goku has been shown to always fight his opponents at their best, no matter the situation. For DBZ you will remember when Goku was in a fight to the death with Frieza and Goku just stood back and allowed Frieza to power up to his maximum because Goku wouldnt want to beat him when he wasnt at his best.
Because of that facet of Gokus personality, I dont see Goku resorting to using kryptonite.
Jameerthefear
05-24-2014, 12:33 PM
Superman is a monster with no physical limits. He has the widest range of powers out of almost any fighter, and Goku is the only fighter aside from Gods who can come close.
However, despite all of that, Superman can be killed very easily with kryptonite. So Goku can literally kill him within minutes. But Goku has been shown to always fight his opponents at their best, no matter the situation. For DBZ you will remember when Goku was in a fight to the death with Frieza and Goku just stood back and allowed Frieza to power up to his maximum because Goku wouldnt want to beat him when he wasnt at his best.
Because of that facet of Gokus personality, I dont see Goku resorting to using kryptonite.
How is Goku supposed to know Superman's weakness? Both characters are bloodlusted btw so their personality doesn't play that much of a part.
ForeverHeat
05-24-2014, 12:35 PM
How is Goku supposed to know Superman's weakness? Both characters are bloodlusted btw so their personality doesn't play that much of a part.
Bloodlusted means they want to inflict damage and kill their opponent. Goku would kill by fighting, not by using a radioactive rock. That wouldnt satisfy his bloodlust.
ForeverHeat
05-24-2014, 12:36 PM
You forget that superman doesn't want to kill and he holds his powers back because he doesn't want to hurt anyone around him and/or fear of killing his opponents
Its the same for Goku, neither would kill for no good reason.
Chizdog
05-24-2014, 12:40 PM
Goku easily that ***** can teleport.
I'll say superman. Goku comes close to a good fight but goku looks to be beatable when weary as compared to superman who has unmatchable strength and what wins this is longetivity.
hateraid
05-24-2014, 12:51 PM
Supes for sure. The only being outside an entity that can take on Supes is the strongest version of Hulk or Thor
robert de niro
05-24-2014, 12:53 PM
would superman 3peat?
Jameerthefear
05-24-2014, 12:55 PM
Supes for sure. The only being outside an entity that can take on Supes is the strongest version of Hulk or Thor
And Flash.
jstern
05-24-2014, 12:56 PM
Though this is dumb because they're two fictional characters from two different universe, and it all depends on the writer, I would have to go with Goku.
Putting aside their super powers, Goku is a fighter, who trains hardcore on being the greatest fighter in the universe. His will is such that he could be horribly tortured and won't give in, especially if it means that it will save his friends. His training reflects that kind of will power.
Superman on the other hand is really just a regular guy in a sense, who just happened to be born with super powers.
Didn't Superman get his ass kicked by a regular guy when he became a regular guy? If Goku had the strength of the a regular person, there's still not a person in the world who can beat him up. The training, skills, and will power would still be too much for regular person, or fighter for that matter.
#number6ix#
05-24-2014, 12:56 PM
Superman would win but Dr. Manhattan would destroy both of them with ease
Jameerthefear
05-24-2014, 12:59 PM
Though this is dumb because they're two fictional characters from two different universe, and it all depends on the writer, I would have to go with Goku.
Putting aside their super powers, Goku is a fighter, who trains hardcore on being the greatest fighter in the universe. His will is such that he could be horribly tortured and won't give in, especially if it means that it will save his friends. His training reflects that kind of will power.
Superman on the other hand is really just a regular guy in a sense, who just happened to be born with super powers.
Didn't Superman get his ass kicked by a regular guy when he became a regular guy? If Goku had the strength of the a regular person, there's still not a person in the world who can beat him up. The training, skills, and will power would still be too much for regular person, or fighter for that matter.
this is really bad reasoning.
salwan
05-24-2014, 01:10 PM
goku ainec
ForeverHeat
05-24-2014, 01:14 PM
Though this is dumb because they're two fictional characters from two different universe, and it all depends on the writer, I would have to go with Goku.
Putting aside their super powers, Goku is a fighter, who trains hardcore on being the greatest fighter in the universe. His will is such that he could be horribly tortured and won't give in, especially if it means that it will save his friends. His training reflects that kind of will power.
Superman on the other hand is really just a regular guy in a sense, who just happened to be born with super powers.
Didn't Superman get his ass kicked by a regular guy when he became a regular guy? If Goku had the strength of the a regular person, there's still not a person in the world who can beat him up. The training, skills, and will power would still be too much for regular person, or fighter for that matter.
Thats the thing. If you saw that link I posted, there is a part where it says:
Now we can keep throwing feats and equations around, but in the end numbers cannot measure what Superman and Goku are capable of. They are both ultimate heros, solutions to daunting problems and achievers of the impossible. The difference is in the very core of their character. Goku has never been invinceable. He has very clear limits and must overcome those limits to solve the problems at hand. Thats the whole point. On the other hand, Supermans story is not about the fight to become the best, but of a immigrant facing the challenge of home vs heritage. After accepting his alien side, Superman has reached his full potential. Which, under the endless power of the sun, is essentially limitless. In short, Superman is as strong as he needs to be. So, what happens when you pit a man able to break any limits, against a man who has no limits in the first place? Well, only one has limits to give at all. The winner is Superman.
Goku trains and fights with those with less power than he is. How more powerful can he be.
Joshumitsu
05-24-2014, 05:56 PM
Goku.
Superman is a thousands times stronger from a pure physics standpoint but he has no defense against ki or magic. Goku wouldn't be able to withstand too many hits but his unique skillset would give him the edge here. Plus, Goku's a warrior while Superman is a whiny beta who complains about Lois Lane.
What Goku would need to do is turn SSJ3, trade a few punches, use a few instant transmissions, and then send a kamehameha from out of nowhere towards Superman.
Think of it like Rocky vs Rambo. In a controlled environment, with rules and a ring, Rocky easily knocks out Rambo with his superior skills/strength. But put some distance in between them, give them both no rules, and Rambo finds a way to kill Rocky (knife, gun, bomb, stealth, chokehold, etc).
Marlo_Stanfield
05-24-2014, 06:06 PM
Goku would roflstomp Superfag and then eat his dead body.
Dr.Manhatten could give Goku a real challenge
Jameerthefear
05-24-2014, 06:07 PM
Goku.
Superman is a thousands times stronger from a pure physics standpoint but he has no defense against ki or magic. Goku wouldn't be able to withstand too many hits but his unique skillset would give him the edge here. Plus, Goku's a warrior while Superman is a whiny beta who complains about Lois Lane.
What Goku would need to do is turn SSJ3, trade a few punches, use a few instant transmissions, and then send a kamehameha from out of nowhere towards Superman.
Think of it like Rocky vs Rambo. In a controlled environment, with rules and a ring, Rocky easily knocks out Rambo with his superior skills/strength. But put some distance in between them, give them both no rules, and Rambo finds a way to kill Rocky (knife, gun, bomb, stealth, chokehold, etc).
What makes you think Supes is vunderable to magic? Superman ROFLstoms Goku.
iamgine
05-25-2014, 12:31 AM
This supes would win:
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Not this one:
http://ecache.ilbe.com/files/attach/new/20140324/377678/585100555/3208871907/c5925feeeb17d24d780bd4b334c11898.jpg
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