Rumor: Cleveland Making Push For Love to Lure LeBron

[Meticode]

:banghead:

https://twitter.com/BrettNBA/status/470199109023203328/photo/1

[-Lebron23-]

Yeah, because Love and Lebron and such good friends...

Shameless reporting :facepalm

[PJR]

I really do hope the Cavs are stupid enough to trade the number 1 pick for Kevin Love in effort to lure LeBron, only for him to bounce in Free Agency, and LeBron to re-up in Miami.

[Meticode]

Yeah, because Love and Lebron and such good friends...

Shameless reporting :facepalm
Brett doesn't report stuff usually unless it's form reliable sources. Just because they aren't good friends doesn't mean Cleveland isn't possibly trying to do this. I don't want this to happen though.

[Meticode]

I really do hope the Cavs are stupid enough to trade the number 1 pick for Kevin Love in effort to lure LeBron, only for him to bounce in Free Agency, and LeBron to re-up in Miami.
Actually in that report, it states Cleveland would keep Irving and the #1, everything else would be tradable, Bennett, Waiters, Varejao's $9 contract.

[Jameerthefear]

Cavs gonna Cavs :roll:

[Meticode]

Cavs gonna Cavs :roll:
Jameer going to be upset. Like you were about the draft lottery.

[NattyPButter]

Well they better not trade Waiters either.

[PJR]

Actually in that report, it states Cleveland would keep Irving and the #1, everything else would be tradable, Bennett, Waiters, Varejao's $9 contract.

The Cavs aren't getting Kevin Love for anything short of the number 1 pick. Bennett and Waiters are a trash juice package.

Kevin Love is one of the 10 best players in the league. And he's only 25. It'll take a premium asset to land that.

[trabash]

As if Love would resign with Cleveland.

[Uncle Drew]

I'd do it, only if we are 100% sure he resigns with us. Although that's very unlikely.

[Meticode]

As if Love would resign with Cleveland.
There'd have to be an agreement to have Love opt out of his player option and stay at least two years to show some kind of commitment. There's no telling what Love would do if he got to play with LeBron, Irving, and the #1 pick. You can only assume.

[Meticode]

The Cavs aren't getting Kevin Love for anything short of the number 1 pick. Bennett and Waiters are a trash juice package.

Kevin Love is one of the 10 best players in the league. And he's only 25. It'll take a premium asset to land that.
This is where I disagree. Love has done everything short of just requesting a trade. They either take the best offer, or he walks for nothing.

[Shade8780]

Kyrie
?
LeBron
Love
Embiid

I doubt LeBron or Love will end up in Cleveland, but that team looks amazing.

[Meticode]

Kyrie
?
LeBron
Love
Embiid

I doubt LeBron or Love will end up in Cleveland, but that team looks amazing.
That's why I want this summer to past quick. I'm so tired of hearing about LeBron coming back possibly. Also if I remember if he comes back RedBlackAttack is done with the Cavs. LOL

[LeBron 06]

Shaun Powell ‏@Powell2daPeople 4h
Hearing the Cavs are trying to get Kevin Love without giving up Kyrie or No. 1 pick.



Shaun Powell ‏@Powell2daPeople 4h
Cavs could dangle Waiters, Thompson, Bennett and future No. 1s for Love.



Shaun Powell ‏@Powell2daPeople 4h
Cavs feel Love, Kyrie, Varejao and Wiggins (or Embiid) would make it tough for LeBron to say no.


https://twitter.com/Powell2daPeople

[-Lebron23-]

Brett doesn't report stuff usually unless it's form reliable sources. Just because they aren't good friends doesn't mean Cleveland isn't possibly trying to do this. I don't want this to happen though.
Well, his realiable sources failed him this time then. It makes 0 sense. Trying to get a star player in hopes that another player would join your team? Right. I bet you Kevin Love would be excited to hear that they only got them to lure Lebron, someone he doesn't even like.

And let's not even talk about contracts. Do you think those guys are going to take paycuts to play with each other in Cleveland just because?

I just think it's made up to milk the whole Lebron back to Cleveland thing. My issue is that it doesn't make Cleveland much of a favor really. They are only now starting to take off and have a really good future and people have to link them to Lebron again. Enough already.

[Jameerthefear]

Kyrie
?
LeBron
Love
Embiid

I doubt LeBron or Love will end up in Cleveland, but that team looks amazing.
If you think CLE's going to get Love without giving up that 1st you are crazy

[Meticode]

If you think CLE's going to get Love without giving up that 1st you are crazy
The reports show Cleveland wouldn't give up the 1st. Same situation with Dwight Howard, they'd get 3-4 players and future first rounders. That's what the Magic did, they traded for Vuvecic, Harkless, Harrington, Eygenga. Affalo and future first rounder as well as second rounders.

Minnesota is in a similar situation, except Love hasn't officially requested a trade, but it's prominent that he's walking after this year if he's not traded.

[Meticode]

In any case Cleveland, just draft Embiid, throw a bunch of money at Gordon Hayward and work from there.

[sfballa13]

If you think CLE's going to get Love without giving up that 1st you are crazy

Actually you are ****ingg delusional if you think Minnesota can get a better package then:

- #4 Waiters
- #4 Thompson
- #1 Bennett

That is 3 TOP FIVE picks for a player that hasnt even taken Minny to the playoffs and is demanding OUT!

Give me a break.

I hope to God Minny rejects this offer only to end up with jack shitt in the end

Name one team that can offer better pieces for a rebuilding team

[Jameerthefear]

Actually you are ****ingg delusional if you think Minnesota can get a better package then:

- #4 Waiters
- #4 Thompson
- #1 Bennett

That is 3 TOP FIVE picks for a player that hasnt even taken Minny to the playoffs and is demanding OUT!

Give me a break.

I hope to God Minny rejects this offer only to end up with jack shitt in the end

Name one team that can offer better pieces for a rebuilding team
Except the only good player out of those 3 is Dion Waiters dumbass.

[Derka]

lol, getting Love without giving up the #1. Seriously, LOL.

[secund2nun]

They should trade Irving for Love and then draft Embiid. That would lure Lebron their way.

Embiid/Love/Lebron with Varejao/Thompson the bigs off of the bench. That would be a really deep front court and fit together really well.

Embiid/Varejao
Love/Thompson
Lebron/Bennett
Waiters

Trade for a PG or sign a vet ring chaser

[Replay32]

Kyrie
?
LeBron
Love
Embiid

I doubt LeBron or Love will end up in Cleveland, but that team looks amazing.

Looks pretty good on paper. But these guys have NO playoff experience. Lebron is in his prime. He's not dumb. He's not going to play with an inexperienced roster. Plus Dan Gilbert is still the owner.

Lebron isn't going back to Cleveland in his prime. This is such a fantasy story. :lol

[Derka]

Actually you are ****ingg delusional if you think Minnesota can get a better package then:

- #4 Waiters
- #4 Thompson
- #1 Bennett



ROFL. :roll: :roll:

[PleezeBelieve]

They should trade Irving for Love and then draft Embiid. That would lure Lebron their way.

Embiid/Love/Lebron with Varejao/Thompson the bigs off of the bench. That would be a really deep front court and fit together really well.

Embiid/Varejao
Love/Thompson
Lebron/Bennett
Waiters

Trade for a PG or sign a vet ring chaser
This

Cavs about to fukk sh*t up .. again :facepalm

[longtime lurker]

Minnesota can have anyone except Bennett :roll: :roll:

[RedBlackAttack]

That's why I want this summer to past quick. I'm so tired of hearing about LeBron coming back possibly. Also if I remember if he comes back RedBlackAttack is done with the Cavs. LOL
It's a moot point, because he ain't coming back.

I was hoping getting the No. 1 pick in what looks like a historically great draft with a clear guy at the top would finally put an end to the James to Cleveland talk, but nope... the media just can't help itself.

It would be incredibly dumb for the Cavs to pursue Love with one year left on his deal when they have the chance to build something truly special by just f#cking picking Embiid.

I see Embiid as a franchise-altering talent on his own. You're putting on a team filled with young talent? Let them grow together instead of desperately trying to go back in time and recapture what you may have missed out on with James.

Time to start looking forward. I think the front office realizes it and I actually think the fans do too (at least the hardcore fans that understand basketball).

Draft Embiid... trade for the best possible SF you can get by using assets not named Irving, Embiid, Bennett or Waiters... and then just let it happen. And, before anyone says they don't have any other assets, let me point out that they're likely going to sign-and-trade Deng to someone and I'd also make Tristan available... along with loads and loads of cap space. They could get a really nice piece no one even sees coming if they focus themselves and stop worrying about LeBron.

This thing is so simple, it feels like they might find a way to f#ck it up.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Kyrie
?
LeBron
Love
Embiid

I doubt LeBron or Love will end up in Cleveland, but that team looks amazing.
Man imagine Love and LeBron playing together. Love is a way better shooter who can spread the floor, but rebounds way more efficiently than Bosh as well

Kyrie
Melo
LeBron
Love
Embiid

GOAT

[Springsteen]

all these retarded teams trading their assets for 1 year of kevin love whos not hiding that hed like to play in LA

how smart so you have to be to be a GM?

[bdreason]

LeBron isn't going back to Cleveland as long as Dan Gilbert owns the team.

[RedBlackAttack]

LeBron isn't going back to Cleveland as long as Dan Gilbert owns the team.
Thank god.

[Akrazotile]

Man imagine Love and LeBron playing together. Love is a way better shooter who can spread the floor, but rebounds way more efficiently than Bosh as well

Kyrie
Melo
LeBron
Love
Embiid

GOAT


Love will get more rebounds but the team will give up more points.

[Magic 32]

LeBron isn't going back to Cleveland as long as Dan Gilbert owns the team.

Lebron has no morals if he sees a shortcut.

[NumberSix]

It's not happening. LeBron is NEVER playing for Dan Gilbert.

[Im so nba'd out]

Thank god.

Yes, I'm the great pretender
Just laughin' and gay like a clown
I seem to be what I'm not, you see
I'm wearing my heart like a crown
Pretending that you're still around

[robert de niro]

Who the fvck would want bennett?!?!
the 2013 cavs

[fpliii]

I do have a feeling he'll go back to Cleveland if Miami doesn't win this year. Obviously I could be very wrong, just my guy feeling.

[aj1987]

Actually you are ****ingg delusional if you think Minnesota can get a better package then:

- #4 Waiters
- #4 Thompson
- #1 Bennett

That is 3 TOP FIVE picks for a player that hasnt even taken Minny to the playoffs and is demanding OUT!

I missed the season where Bennet, Waiters, and Thompson (along with Irving and Varejao) took the Cav's to the Playoffs. Did they even win over 35 games? :oldlol:

[secund2nun]

Love will get more rebounds but the team will give up more points.

With Embiid at center it would give up less points.

[RedBlackAttack]

Yes, I'm the great pretender
Just laughin' and gay like a clown
I seem to be what I'm not, you see
I'm wearing my heart like a crown
Pretending that you're still around
:oldlol:

No, I'd be legitimately relieved if he re-signed tomorrow with Miami. There's no pretending. I'm excited about this team as is. If I had my druthers, LeBron would never dawn a Cavs jersey again in his life.

And, truthfully, I don't think it would be smart for him to come back. This team is too young for a guy who maybe only has a few years left to compete at the highest level.

There's zero reason for him to come back. And, I'm thankful of that, because I don't want him back here.

[robert de niro]

With Embiid at center it would give up less points.
how are they getting love without giving up the pick tho, wolves would rather take celtics package with their 6th pick, or whatever the bulls/warriors offer them

[RedBlackAttack]

how are they getting love without giving up the pick tho, wolves would rather take celtics package with their 6th pick, or whatever the bulls/warriors offer them
The Celtics aren't giving up their 6th pick either unless Love agrees to pick up his option for next year at the very least, if not agreeing to sign an extension with them right now.

In this draft, you don't give up Top 7 picks for a potential one-year rental of Love. And, I wouldn't trade Embiid for Love period, under any circumstances. The No. 1 pick should be completely off the table.

[robert de niro]

The Celtics aren't giving up their 6th pick either unless Love agrees to pick up his option for next year at the very least, if not agreeing to sign an extension with them right now.

In this draft, you don't give up Top 7 picks for a potential one-year rental of Love. And, I wouldn't trade Embiid for Love period, under any circumstances. The No. 1 pick should be completely off the table.
even with picks completely off the table, I can count a handful of teams with much better offers than the cavs, but then again this is the wolves we are talking about, their FO is dumber than the cavs one

[secund2nun]

how are they getting love without giving up the pick tho, wolves would rather take celtics package with their 6th pick, or whatever the bulls/warriors offer them

In the scenario I presented they trade Irving for Love. I think Minny would accept if the Cavs proposed the trade.

[RedBlackAttack]

even with picks completely off the table, I can count a handful of teams with much better offers than the cavs, but then again this is the wolves we are talking about, their FO is dumber than the cavs one
I'm not even a fan of going after Love at this point, tbh. I think the Cavs are set up perfectly for a really long run without making any big splashy moves. It would be a mistake to take a serious bite out of the talent they've accumulated in the hopes that Love likes the team and decides to stay.

The age factor also sort of bugs me. Your core should be built in a way that guys are maximizing their talents right around the same time. Prying him away from the Wolves would probably cost at least Waiters (22) and Thompson (23).

So, our core would look like this... Love (26), Embiid (20), Kyrie (22), Bennett (20).

I just don't like it. You keep this group together as best you can and things should naturally come together over the next decade.


In the scenario I presented they trade Irving for Love. I think Minny would accept if the Cavs proposed the trade.

No way in hell the Cavs are trading Kyrie in a Love deal. Kyrie is four years younger and is a longterm piece.

[fragokota]

Guys it's not like Lebron coming back to Cleveland is the most possible scenario,but it's got its chances of happening.MIA will have to rebuild heavily after this year no matter what happens...Can Riley guarantee him that a fresh bunch of stars will come to the heat to fill the roster?

On the other hand,coming back to Cleveland to "redeem" himself by winning a chip will be a definite plus in his resume when it's all said and done.He knows that(as every superstar it's all about the fame) and he might take the chance to go back if the Cavs lure him with a young talented team.

If somehow CLE manages to bring in Love while also keeping Irving and their #1 pick,the chances of him going back (as per his habbits...) to play with a young stacked team are pretty good. Love ofc isn't going anywhere if they get lebron,he will re-sign.

[secund2nun]

No way in hell the Cavs are trading Kyrie in a Love deal. Kyrie is four years younger and is a longterm piece.

In the scenario where Lebron decides to return to Cleveland you never know. People have been reporting that some in the Cav's organization don't feel Irving is a max player and that he is talking about leaving Cleveland. Also Windhorst I believe reported that Lebron and Irving had a falling out, so if Lebron did decide to return to Cleveland they'd could look to trade Irving if they get a good deal. Irving is ball dominant anyways so he wouldn't fit as well with Lebron as Love would.

I'd take Love over Irving in any scenario.

[jrong]

Discounting the fact that I obviously want LeBron in Cleveland or anywhere else next year, looking at it purely objectively from his point of view, I don't know why he'd go back to Miami.

How many more years can Wade hold his body together with duct tape? Is Chris Bosh going to have a career renaissance?

I don't know if Cleveland is LeBron's best move, but him and Love plus the existing core would make them contenders now and as their young talent develops, it would give him more support as he gets older.

[navy]

Also Windhorst I believe reported that Lebron and Irving had a falling out,
How is that even possible...:oldlol:

[SilkkTheShocker]

In the scenario where Lebron decides to return to Cleveland you never know. People have been reporting that some in the Cav's organization don't feel Irving is a max player and that he is talking about leaving Cleveland. Also Windhorst I believe reported that Lebron and Irving had a falling out, so if Lebron did decide to return to Cleveland they'd could look to trade Irving if they get a good deal. Irving is ball dominant anyways so he wouldn't fit as well with Lebron as Love would.

I'd take Love over Irving in any scenario.


Any Cavs fan know anything about this?

[secund2nun]

Any Cavs fan know anything about this?

http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2014/04/windhorst-lebron-and-kyrie-have-drifted-apart/

[QUOTE]

Windhorst:

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[RedBlackAttack]

In the scenario where Lebron decides to return to Cleveland you never know. People have been reporting that some in the Cav's organization don't feel Irving is a max player and that he is talking about leaving Cleveland. Also Windhorst I believe reported that Lebron and Irving had a falling out, so if Lebron did decide to return to Cleveland they'd could look to trade Irving if they get a good deal. Irving is ball dominant anyways so he wouldn't fit as well with Lebron as Love would.

I'd take Love over Irving in any scenario.
You're not a fan of point guards, though. I wouldn't expect you to place much value on Kyrie.

However, you no longer can only think of the situation as Kyrie Irving, the franchise player. It's now become how much potential an Irving-Embiid combination has for the next decade. To me, they fit together like hand in glove.

Kyrie's ability to break down a defense and/or light it up from the outside and Embiid's presence around the rim or his ability to step out and knock down open jumpers on pick-and-pops or roll to it on a P&R... And Embiid would go a long way in helping negate some of Kyrie's defensive issues on the other end by protecting the paint.

If Embiid approaches his ceiling, he's exactly the kind of player you'd want to pair up with a player of Irving's skillset. Your issue was always whether or not the Cavs could become a legitimate contender with Irving as its centerpiece.

Everything changes if he's got a dominant young big man shouldering a lot of the load. Suddenly, he has more space to utilize his phenomenal offensive talents and a safety net on the block.


I'll say it again... there's zero reason for the Cavs to make some huge roster destructing move right now. They're in the perfect position to have loads of talent that can grow together naturally.




And, yes... there have been reports that Irving-James had a falling out. Well, one report... the Windhorst statement above. Is it true? Who knows.

[morbius]

Melo is available this summer as well, hmmmm...
How about Cavs sign Melo as a free agent, LeBron would be bound to follow, trade away Irving in some sort of a package to get Rondo who is on a very affordable contract, so some money still remains for decent bench.

Starting line-up:
Rondo - Waiters- Melo - LeBron - Embiid.

Maybe trade Waiters for 3-point shooter like Korver.

[longtime lurker]

Tristan Thompson, Waiters, Zeller, Bennett plus future draft picks should be enough to get Kevin Love if he's willing to come to the Cavs. Minnesota doesn't have a strong position here.