Replace Kobe with Lebron in 2008 Finals vs Celtics

[SavageMode]

How badly does Lebron obliterate the Celtics as he always does?

[Andrei89]

They win

[KobesFinger]

Dude get some new material

[Vienceslav]

Lakers in 4.

[stalkerforlife]

2-18, 10 turnovers.

WAIT...

That's not even a hypothetical game against the Celtics.

Hahahahaha

[Fudge]

Celtics in 6

[Fudge]

2-18, 10 turnovers.

WAIT...

That's not even a hypothetical game against the Celtics.

Hahahahaha
:oldlol:

[Uncle Drew]

How badly does Lebron obliterate the Celtics as he always does?
You mean how LeBron quit in game 5 against those same Celtics in '10?

[SavageMode]

Lakers in 4 easily.

Sit down, ez next.

[SavageMode]

You mean how LeBron quit in game 5 against those same Celtics?
With a rotting supporting cast? who wouldn't.

Next ez sit.

[Magic 32]

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[Uncle Drew]

With a rotting supporting cast? who wouldn't.

Next ez sit.
You know it's bad when you play worse than a ''rotting supporting cast''

[SexSymbol]

Boston would sweep the series 4-0 with an average margin of victory of 15+ points

[Real14]

Celtics in 6.

[Beatlezz]

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[SexSymbol]

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[SavageMode]

Lakers would win if you take out Kobe's chucking ezily and add in a facilitator/slasher like Lebron.

Lebron with Gasol + Bynum.

Sit ez Next.

[Magic 32]

Lakers would win if you take out Kobe's chucking ezily and add in a facilitator/slasher like Lebron.

Lebron with Gasol + Bynum.

Sit ez Next.

If you're gonna troll at least be good.

[Heavincent]

Lebron went 8-42 with 17 turnovers in the first two games of that series :oldlol:

[L.A. Jazz]

Kobe wasnt the problem 08. The Lakers werent tough (physically and mentally) enough to beat the Celtics. Outside the starters, who were better as a group, the Celtics bench was veteran and tough. Powe, Brown, Cassell and Posey all had their moments. On the other side the Lakers outside of Kobe and Fish werent used to that kind of basketball played in the finals. they were quick learners (not quick enough for this series) and came back better 09 (Orlando had the same problem) and 2010.

[Droid101]

Celtics in 1.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Lakers in 5
LeBron with Phil Jackson = 8 peat

[Kiddlovesnets]

Honestly Kobe played fine in 2008 finals, Id say better than his performance in 2010 finals. The reason why the Lakers did not win was partially due to Bynum's injury, and the fact that the Lakers did not have HCA against Celtics. More importantly, the Celtics just wanted it way more than the Lakers, their old superstars and veterans were fighting for their lives.

[DFish24]

Lakers would get swept.

[ImKobe]

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[16X]

Why would Lebron do any better? He needed two full years together with the 2nd best player in his conference, and they still came close to losing to an older Celtics team a few years after the Celtcs won it all.

With only half a year to mesh and no Bynum, Ariza, etc., the Lakers don't win more than a couple of games.

[ImKobe]

Honestly Kobe played fine in 2008 finals, Id say better than his performance in 2010 finals. The reason why the Lakers did not win was partially due to Bynum's injury, and the fact that the Lakers did not have HCA against Celtics. More importantly, the Celtics just wanted it way more than the Lakers, their old superstars and veterans were fighting for their lives.

Celtics had a much better roster. 3 all-stars vs a team with only one all-star and no bench with Pau being traded to LA mid-season, Bynum being injured and Ariza barely getting any minutes?

Kobe was fine in 08, just didn't have enough help and he was worn out by the Celtics D with Pau playing like garbage.

[MMM]

From a Celtics fan perspective I feared LeBron more in that Playoffs more so than Kobe. Not saying LeBron was better at that time and obviously the Celtics had quite a bit of success in locking down both stars. However, LeBron was just more explosive and I think game 7 showed why Celtics fans feared him more at that time. Also those Cavs were just a better match up vs. us than LA. Cleveland was more familiar with us and could match up physically before than LA. Lakers were more skilled but finesse in comparison.

[GimmeThat]

They may had won it all.

Replace Kobe on Lebron against the Spurs in the finals
and the Cavs might just not get swept.


hint: the conferences they played in may make a difference

[LongLiveTheKing]

LeBron took them to 7 with a worst supporting cast.
Kobe took them to 6.
Lakers with LeBron would win.
Lebron>Kobe

[Magic 32]

LeBron took them to 7 with a worst supporting cast.
Kobe took them to 6.
Lakers with LeBron would win.
Lebron>Kobe

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[MMM]

LeBron on 08 Lakers doesn't get past 08 Spurs
Kobe on 07 Cavs doesn't get past 07 Pistons

[Black and White]

The Celtics still win this series, but as another poster said, LeBron always caused trouble against the C's and was a very tough cover for Pierce.

[dubeta]

You know whats funny? Lebron had those horrible first 4 games, and still averaged more points vs that Celtics team than kobe. Quick Kobe stans explain that. LeBron dropped 45 on the Celtics while Kobe couldnt do anything while having the most stacked frontcourt of all time. :roll:

[Black and White]

You know whats funny? Lebron had those horrible first 4 games, and still averaged more points vs that Celtics team than kobe. Quick Kobe stans explain that. LeBron dropped 45 on the Celtics while Kobe couldnt do anything while having the most stacked frontcourt of all time. :roll:

:biggums:

Duncan/Robinson > Gasol/Bynum/Odom

[TheMarkMadsen]

You know whats funny? Lebron had those horrible first 4 games, and still averaged more points vs that Celtics team than kobe. Quick Kobe stans explain that. LeBron dropped 45 on the Celtics while Kobe couldnt do anything while having the most stacked frontcourt of all time. :roll:

The most stacked front court of all time apparently is Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom & Vlad Ramonavic

:facepalm :facepalm

[dubeta]

The most stacked front court of all time apparently is Pau Gasol, Lamar Odom & Vlad Ramonavic

:facepalm :facepalm

nice look at one point while ingoring everything else, classic Kobe stan :cheers:

[TheMarkMadsen]

nice look at one point while ingoring everything else, classic Kobe stan :cheers:


how can you be taken seriously when you just called a Pau Gasol/Lamar Odom/ Vlad Ramonivic front court the most stacked front court of all time

[Black and White]

nice look at one point while ingoring everything else, classic Kobe stan :cheers:

Dude, I'm no Lakers fan, but adding a dumb point like that to your post instantly discredits it. Clearly a sign of you reaching hard to mould an arguement in your favour, didn't think you would take it that far though.

[LongLiveTheKing]

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Lebron took them to 7 in 08?:confusedshrug:

[Black and White]

Lebron took them to 7 in 08?:confusedshrug:

He must be referring to the fact that you said "LeBron took them to 7" rather than the "Cavs took them to 7"

[TheMarkMadsen]

Lebron took them to 7 in 08?:confusedshrug:

Lebron played like dog shit the first 4 games

[dubeta]

how can you be taken seriously when you just called a Pau Gasol/Lamar Odom/ Vlad Ramonivic front court the most stacked front court of all time

I know its almost as bad as Kobe stans saying that Bran is carried by 2 superstars. And Gasol, Odom, is a pretty great front court

[Black and White]

I know its almost as bad as Kobe stans saying that Bran is carried by 2 superstars. And Gasol, Odom, is a pretty great front court

I want to ask your opinion, whos team is more stacked, Kobes in 08 v LeBron 2013???

[TheMarkMadsen]

I want to ask your opinion, whos team is more stacked, Kobes in 08 v LeBron 2013???

are you comparing a team with 3 all stars to a team with 1 all star?

well clearly the team with 1 all star is more stacked

[Black and White]

are you comparing a team with 3 all stars to a team with 1 all star?

well clearly the team with 1 all star is more stacked

I bet thats what he is going to say :oldlol:

[Rodmantheman]

Celtics would have beaten both some of you guys need to quit bitching.

[dubeta]

I want to ask your opinion, whos team is more stacked, Kobes in 08 v LeBron 2013???

Lakers, they had tremendous size which helped on defense and rebounding, Kobe was not forced to defend PF's and lead his team in rebounding. Wade averaged 15 ppg in the playoffs, and Bosh averaged 12 ppg while not grabbing rebounds or playing defense.

LeBron had a supporting cast consisting of a hobbled wade, and a spot up shooter in Bosh, mixed with role players

Kobe had 2 7 footers in Gasol and Bynum (yes I know he was injured in the playoffs) and a 6' 10 SF in Lamar Odom. Add in Fisher, Trevor Ariza, and the GOAT coach Phil Jackson and only a diehard Kobe stan can argue that the 2013 Heat were more stacked

[robert_shaww]

Celtics in 5.

[Black and White]

Lakers, they had tremendous size which helped on defense and rebounding, Kobe was not forced to defend PF's and lead his team in rebounding. Wade averaged 15 ppg in the playoffs, and Bosh averaged 12 ppg while not grabbing rebounds or playing defense.

LeBron had a supporting cast consisting of a hobbled wade, and a spot up shooter in Bosh, mixed with role players

Kobe had 2 7 footers in Gasol and Bynum (yes I know he was injured in the playoffs) and a 6' 10 SF in Lamar Odom. Add in Fisher, Trevor Ariza, and the GOAT coach Phil Jackson and only a diehard Kobe stan can argue that the 2013 Heat were more stacked

Ray Allen hit the biggest shot of LeBrons career and you call him "just a role player"

In 08, Artest hadn't arrived yet, Sasha Vujacic was a rotation player, there is no way that Kobe had more help than LeBron.


But anyway, here are the squads for you to compare:

Kobe
Gasol
Odom
Bynum
Walton
Vujacic
Vladimir
Ariza
Farmar
Fisher


vs


James
Wade
Bosh
Ray Allen
Mike Miller
Haslem
Chalmers
Battier
Chris Andersen
Norris Cole

[TheMarkMadsen]

Lakers, they had tremendous size which helped on defense and rebounding, Kobe was not forced to defend PF's and lead his team in rebounding. Wade averaged 15 ppg in the playoffs, and Bosh averaged 12 ppg while not grabbing rebounds or playing defense.

LeBron had a supporting cast consisting of a hobbled wade, and a spot up shooter in Bosh, mixed with role players

Kobe had 2 7 footers in Gasol and Bynum (yes I know he was injured in the playoffs) and a 6' 10 SF in Lamar Odom. Add in Fisher, Trevor Ariza, and the GOAT coach Phil Jackson and only a diehard Kobe stan can argue that the 2013 Heat were more stacked

both of these guys were injured in the playoffs :oldlol:

[LongLiveTheKing]

Lebron played like dog shit the first 4 games
And he still took them farther than Kobe could with shit teammates. :lol

[Black and White]

neither of these guys played in the playoffs :oldlol:

Ahhh man, you ruined it, I was setting him up for a burn, I put the squads out and was waiting for him to bite on Ariza and Bynum lol

[TheMarkMadsen]

And he still took them farther than Kobe could with shit teammates. :lol

Dude Lebron shot 31% in game 3 and the Cavs still won by 20 :roll:

Lebron followed that up by shooting 35% the next game and the Cavs still won by double digits

[Rodmantheman]

Dude Lebron shot 31% in game 3 and the Cavs still won by 20 :roll:

You should know kobe had many games like that:roll:

[Uncle Drew]

You know whats funny? Lebron had those horrible first 4 games, and still averaged more points vs that Celtics team than kobe. Quick Kobe stans explain that. LeBron dropped 45 on the Celtics while Kobe couldnt do anything while having the most stacked frontcourt of all time. :roll:
I know you're just a troll, but the Celtics had a frontline of Bird, Mchale, Parish and Bill Walton in '86(?).

[TheMarkMadsen]

Ahhh man, you ruined it, I was setting him up for a burn, I put the squads out and was waiting for him to bite on Ariza and Bynum lol

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[dubeta]

Ray Allen hit the biggest shot of LeBrons career and you call him "just a role player"

In 08, Artest hadn't arrived yet, Sasha Vujacic was a rotation player, there is no way that Kobe had more help than LeBron.


But anyway, here are the squads for you to compare:

Kobe
Gasol
Odom
Bynum
Walton
Vujacic
Vladimir
Ariza
Farmar
Fisher


vs


James
Wade
Bosh
Ray Allen
Mike Miller
Haslem
Chalmers
Battier
Chris Andersen
Norris Cole



The flaw in your argument, is that you are living of legacy and career when comparing players, instead of performance. Yes, Bosh, wade, allen look good on paper, but how did they perform? Wade 15 ppg, Bosh 12ppg

Allen hit a big 3 but was still a role player, was Horry a role player or superstar when he bailed out Kobe?? Btw both Bosh and Allen scored 0 points in Game 7 of Finals. LeBron had to carry them in Game 7 just like Gasol and Artest carried Kobe in 2010 Game 7

[TheMarkMadsen]

You should know kobe had many games like that:roll:


not where his team still won by double digits against the 08 Celtics :lol

[Black and White]

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Its all good brah, hes a dumbass anyway, made a stupid comment and can't back out of it.

[Black and White]

The flaw in your argument, is that you are living of legacy and career when comparing players, instead of performance. Yes, Bosh, wade, allen look good on paper, but how did they perform? Wade 15 ppg, Bosh 12ppg

Allen hit a big 3 but was still a role player, was Horry a role player or superstar when he bailed out Kobe?? Btw both Bosh and Allen scored 0 points in Game 7 of Finals. LeBron had to carry them in Game 7 just like Gasol and Artest carried Kobe in 2010 Game 7

Fine, if you want to put things into context, Bynum and Ariza didn't play, so realistically you have

Kobe
Gasol
Odom
Vujacic
Fisher
Walton

etc

vs

James
Bosh
Allen
Wade
Mike Miller etc


etc, don't act like Kobe had more help, because he didn't, what he has was great chemistry with Gasol.

[TheMarkMadsen]

The flaw in your argument, is that you are living of legacy and career when comparing players, instead of performance. Yes, Bosh, wade, allen look good on paper, but how did they perform? Wade 15 ppg, Bosh 12ppg

Allen hit a big 3 but was still a role player, was Horry a role player or superstar when he bailed out Kobe?? Btw both Bosh and Allen scored 0 points in Game 7 of Finals. LeBron had to carry them in Game 7 just like Gasol and Artest carried Kobe in 2010 Game 7

Wade averaged 20/4/5/2/1 in the finals

BTW there is no game 7 without Ray Allen

[red1]

they both lose

[Black and White]

they both lose

This is what I'm trying to get that dumbass to understand, neither would beat the C's

[dubeta]

Wade averaged 20/4/5/2/1 in the finals

BTW there is no game 7 without Ray Allen

Ok so whats your argument, debating who had the better supporting cast but at the end of the day LeBron won while Kobe lost

And if Artest doesnt make the 3 in game 7 2010 then Kobe loses as well :rolleyes: