Lebron has had 1 game under 50 percent shooting, Kevin Durant 10

[VengefulAngel]

In the playoffs
FT35, pathetic.

[Jameerthefear]

Imagine if he didn't have the refs holding his balls too. Would have even more. Durant is a joke.

[moe94]

Durant = dominant
LeBron = efficient

-9ersmak

[VengefulAngel]

Lebron James
6-14
Kevin Durant
1: 8-19 tonight
2.6-16
3. 6-22
4.10-22
5.9-19
6.11-23
7. 10-24
8.5-21
9.10-27
10.12-28

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Dude has disappointed thus far in the post season. His defense has been awful as well.

[Droid101]

I totally forgot that the team that shoots a better FG% gets the win. I always thought it was point total. So weird.

[VengefulAngel]

How many times will he get bailed out?

[VengefulAngel]

I totally forgot that the team that shoots a better FG% gets the win. I always thought it was point total. So weird.

Shooting well tends to give you a better chance of winning, you're not going to lose many games shooting 56 percent...

[Meticode]

Westbrook's last 24 out of 27 games are below 45%.

[LeBron 06]

I totally forgot that the team that shoots a better FG% gets the win. I always thought it was point total. So weird.



The FG% is the reason why Miami are so good!!!!

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I totally forgot that the team that shoots a better FG% gets the win. I always thought it was point total. So weird.


You realize there is a correlation right? Thats like saying "who cares about getting steals/blocks/rebounds since its only the team with the most points that win."

[Droid101]

The FG% is the reason why Miami are so good!!!!

Shooting well tends to give you a better chance of winning, you're not going to lose many games shooting 56 percent...
You guys are so right. We should petition Adam Silver to change the NBA winning criteria. Field Goal Percentage should decide the winner of games, not point total. Let's run it by him.

[BigBoss]

Kobe's had God knows how many ....yet 5 rings > 2

[GODbe]

http://www.gamedayr.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/longhorn-network-kevin-durant-mvp-lebron-james-troll.jpg

[DaSeba5]

You realize there is a correlation right? Thats like saying "who cares about getting steals/blocks/rebounds since its only the team with the most points that win."

This

[NumberSix]

I totally forgot that the team that shoots a better FG% gets the win. I always thought it was point total. So weird.
It's almost as if the more your shots go in, the better.

[JohnFreeman]

One of them is the best player in the world, and the other is Kevin Durant

[fpliii]

You guys are so right. We should petition Adam Silver to change the NBA winning criteria. Field Goal Percentage should decide the winner of games, not point total. Let's run it by him.
I understand where you're coming from, but Dean Oliver's Four Factors explain 96% of point differential (which decides games):

http://www.d3coder.com/thecity/2010/12/19/regressing-point-differential-on-the-four-factors-part-1/

eFG% is the biggest part of that (40%). Though that's obviously not straight FG%, since it takes into account threes as well, and it's team eFG% (not individual).

The Four Factors together are pretty damn good at predicting performance.

[Sarcastic]

Hasn't Durant played better teams? :confusedshrug:

[VengefulAngel]

I understand where you're coming from, but Dean Oliver's Four Factors explain 96% of point differential (which decides games):

http://www.d3coder.com/thecity/2010/12/19/regressing-point-differential-on-the-four-factors-part-1/

eFG% is the biggest part of that (40%). Though that's obviously not straight FG%, since it takes into account threes as well, and it's team eFG% (not individual).

The Four Factors together are pretty damn good at predicting performance.

I remember having a graphic showing exactly this, can't seem to find it though.

[Nikola_]

Avg distance of FGA
Bran- 12.8
Derrant- 15.2

0-3 feet
bran 36% of all his shots
derrant 14% of all his shots

[VengefulAngel]

Avg distance of FGA
Bran- 12.8
Derrant- 15.2

0-3 feet
bran 36% of all his shots
derrant 14% of all his shots

Your point?

[SexSymbol]

Your point?
He's a jumpshooter, of course his FG% will be lower, that doesn't mean he's worse of a scorer or something, teams need every facet of the game and some superstars are better in certain things than others.
I'm tired of these fakkits not knowing how basketball works, just because one nikka is shooting 53 percent and the other is shooting 47 percent doesn't show us anything about their efficiency if context is not used properly.
Durant faced Grizzlies team with incredible defense, a good defensive team in clippers and now a good defensive team in Spurs, and he's primarly a jump-shooter.

[VengefulAngel]

He's a jumpshooter, of course his FG% will be lower, that doesn't mean he's worse of a scorer or something, teams need every facet of the game and some superstars are better in certain things than others.
I'm tired of these fakkits not knowing how basketball works, just because one nikka is shooting 53 percent and the other is shooting 47 percent doesn't show us anything about their efficiency if context is not used properly.
Durant faced Grizzlies team with incredible defense, a good defensive team in clippers and now a good defensive team in Spurs, and he's primarly a jump-shooter.

First of all Lebron is shooting higher on all areas of the court that includes the jumpshot, and Lebron's efficiency against the best defense in the NBA far outstrip the efficiency of Durant through the playoffs. If you merely look at TS percent you can see that lebron is at 67 percent whereas Durant is at 57 percent.

Your argument is awful... were looking at effectiveness and Lebron is a more effective scorer than Kevin Durant, a better rebounder (Higher RR) And a better facilitator(AST/TO) ratio. PER which looks at efficiency shows that there LBJ has been far more efficient that KD..

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Avg distance of FGA
Bran- 12.8
Derrant- 15.2

0-3 feet
bran 36% of all his shots
derrant 14% of all his shots
Bargnani > Shaq :bowdown:

[Nikola_]

Your point?

Bran is playing closer to the basket and is 10x better post player so its no surprise. Durant at this point is just settling for jumpers and you cant win like that. He has faced great defenses in Spurs and Grizzlies, although he couldve shoot better against the latter.

[VengefulAngel]

Bargnani > Shaq :bowdown:

Don't worry I dealt with these delusional posters.

[SexSymbol]

First of all Lebron is shooting higher on all areas of the court that includes the jumpshot, and Lebron's efficiency against the best defense in the NBA far outstrip the efficiency of Durant through the playoffs. If you merely look at TS percent you can see that lebron is at 67 percent whereas Durant is at 57 percent.

Your argument is awful... were looking at effectiveness and Lebron is a more effective scorer than Kevin Durant, a better rebounder (Higher RR) And a better facilitator(AST/TO) ratio. PER which looks at efficiency shows that there LBJ has been far more efficient that KD..
You can't compare facilitation as KD isn't even his teams main facilitator.
Lebron has faced the best defense in the league for three games, rest of his play-off games came against cringe-worthy teams.
Nets without Lopez and Cats without Jefferson are a joke

[VengefulAngel]

You can't compare facilitation as KD isn't even his teams main facilitator.
Lebron has faced the best defense in the league for three games, rest of his play-off games came against cringe-worthy teams.
Nets without Lopez and Cats without Jefferson are a joke

The Bobcats were 6th in defensive efficiency, so far from crummy actually ranking higher than Memphis, this is in part due to the fact they play in the eastern conference. However you still haven't pointed to one facet of the game in which Durant has been better than Lebron during these playoffs?

We're comparing these players and being a teams facilitator is an important attribute. Durant can't even pass out of a double team, where as Lebron is able to draw two and kick. I would argue that Lebron has been superior than Kevin Durant in every crucial category during this post-season.

[pastis]

you guys are so funny. durant has played against 10x better teams than lebron had. if you arent a guy like duncan, who is always under the rim and makes the easy layup and the 1-2 feet shots, its fvcking difficult, at least in the west, to have a FG% above 47-48. and you know it.

durant:bowdown: :bowdown: :applause: :applause:

[VengefulAngel]

you guys are so funny. durant has played against 10x better teams than lebron had. if you arent a guy like duncan, who is always under the rim and makes the easy layup and the 1-2 feet shots, its fvcking difficult, at least in the west, to have a FG% above 47-48. and you know it.

durant:bowdown: :bowdown: :applause: :applause:

You know nothing about basketball....

[pastis]

You know nothing about basketball....

so what is wrong in my statement?

[VengefulAngel]

so what is wrong in my statement?


A troll doesn't warrant a serious response, your lucky i'm giving you the time of day.

[pastis]

A troll doesn't warrant a serious response, your lucky i'm giving you the time of day.

as i expected: you are a troll and you cant handle the facts. deal with it:applause: :applause:

[sekachu]

In the playoffs
FT35, pathetic.




have you put into account that Durant plays against better team? Nevertheless he is still under performance.

[dannywpt]

have you put into account that Durant plays against better team? Nevertheless he is still under performance.

It's almost as if you're implying that OP is not a full blown retard. Only on ISH will so many people lose their shit over a 25 point double-double performance on 8-19 shooting.

[VengefulAngel]

It's almost as if you're implying that OP is not a full blown retard. Only on ISH will so many people lose their shit over a 25 point double-double performance on 8-19 shooting.

You're an idiot, who said that i was judging his performances it was simple comparison between Lebron and KD to whom has the most 50 percent shooting nights.

[SexSymbol]

You're an idiot, who said that i was judging his performances it was simple comparison between Lebron and KD to whom has the most 50 percent shooting nights.
Your understanding of basketball is very limited, please educate yourself a bit more before engaging in subjects where basic understanding is required. :cheers:

[Blue&Orange]

who gives a shit? everyone on the heat team shoots over .500.


Cherry picking on a stacked team vs inferior competition.

:bowdown:

[sd3035]

OP got destroyed in his own thread :lol

[Pacquiao]

The Thunder were facing tougher teams Memphis, Clippers and Spurs not Bobcats and Nets

[swagga]

It's almost as if the more your shots go in, the better.



I ****king spilled my coffee while some rook was coming in with a report.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :lol :oldlol:

[red1]

I totally forgot that the team that shoots a better FG% gets the win. I always thought it was point total. So weird.
how are you going to act like making your shots is a bad thing :lol

[red1]

It's almost as if the more your shots go in, the better.
you heard droid bro. we should petition Adam Silver to change the NBA winning criteria. let's run it by him.

[livinglegend]

The Thunder were facing tougher teams Memphis, Clippers and Spurs not Bobcats and Nets

Tougher offensive teams.
Defensively, they faced the same calibre of teams.

[Robalvarez2010]

Avg distance of FGA
Bran- 12.8
Derrant- 15.2

0-3 feet
bran 36% of all his shots
derrant 14% of all his shots

And yet Durant averages more free throws, go figure.

[All Net]

He's been disappointing but he's faced tougher teams.

[Mr. Incredible]

I've yet to hear one nba expert say Kevin Durant is the best player in the world....:rolleyes:

They know who the King is.

[dabigbaws]

And yet Durant averages more free throws, go figure.

lebron averaging 9.6 FTA
durant averaging 8.9 FTA

[Trollsmasher]

Defensively:
Bobcats < Memphis
Nets >> Clippers (Matt Barnes?:lol )
Pacers >> Spurs

[Marlo_Stanfield]

lol at the tards in this thread
lebron would shoot 60% vs the Clippers lmfao
no defense western conference

[FLDFSU]

And yet Durant averages more free throws, go figure.


:applause: :applause:

That is what the morons in this thread don't understand. Calling KD a jump shooter ONLY highlights the AMAZING fact the he takes an incredible amount of free throws in comparison to Lebron or Wade.

I bet money that KD takes FAR more free throws per attempt than Lebron yet Lebron's average distance on his attempt is far closer to the rim.

[TheMan]

One is a jump shooter, the other bulldozes his way to the rim :confusedshrug:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

One is a jump shooter, the other bulldozes his way to the rim :confusedshrug:
yeah and the jumpshooter averages more Ft
go figure:coleman:

[Sarcastic]

Tougher offensive teams.
Defensively, they faced the same calibre of teams.

:roll:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

:roll:
what your punk ass laughing about?

[stalkerforlife]

You do realize LeDefer will stop shooting if it hurts his percentages, correct? lol. WATCH THE GAMES.

Durant is an ALPHA and he will UNLOAD his clip, win or lose.

[VengefulAngel]

You do realize LeDefer will stop shooting if it hurts his percentages, correct? lol. WATCH THE GAMES.

Durant is an ALPHA and he will UNLOAD his clip, win or lose.

To the detriment of his team...

[stalkerforlife]

To the detriment of his team...

There is no bigger "detriment" in the FINALS HISTORY than 2011. :facepalm

[TheMan]

yeah and the jumpshooter averages more Ft
go figure:coleman:
LeBron is avging 9.6 to KD's 8.4 :confusedshrug:

sit down, kid

[VengefulAngel]

There is no bigger "detriment" in the FINALS HISTORY than 2011. :facepalm

You know they have no argument when they have to bring something up which happened 3 years ago.

[TheMan]

There is no bigger "detriment" in the FINALS HISTORY than 2011. :facepalm
Ether :oldlol:

[TheMan]

You know they have no argument when they have to bring something up which happened 3 years ago.
Part of his legacy, can't pretend it didn't happen.

If Bran stans can bring up 07 Cavs as an example of Bran making his teammates better (according to them), we can't use 08 or 11 as examples of Bran's tendency to bail when the going gets tough :confusedshrug:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Part of his legacy, can't pretend it didn't happen.

If Bran stans can bring up 07 Cavs as an example of Bran making his teammates better (according to them), we can't use 08 or 11 as examples of Bran's tendency to shrink from the moment :confusedshrug:
yeah putting up 45 points when all defensive attention is on you against an all time great Celtics team in game 7 is really shrinking from the moment:roll: :roll: :biggums:

[TheMan]

yeah putting up 45 points when all defensive attention is on you against an all time great Celtics team in game 7 is really shrinking from the moment:roll: :roll: :biggums:
Fellow Bran stan Silkk clown's on MJ's 63 pt playoffs game loss to an even better Celtics team...

And I was talking about 08, not the old injured 12 Celtics, keep up

You Bran stans should stay consistent at least, no:confusedshrug:

[Trollsmasher]

Fellow Bran stan Silkk clown's on MJ's 63 pt playoffs game loss to an even better Celtics team...

You Bran stans should stay consistent at least, no:confusedshrug:
we clown on the embarassing 19 point outing and intentional fouling out in the very next game, not on 63:confusedshrug:

[funnystuff]

who gives a shit? everyone on the heat team shoots over .500.


Cherry picking on a stacked team vs inferior competition.

:bowdown:
I already knew you were retarded, but Indiana has better D than both West teams.

[TheMan]

we clown on the embarassing 19 point outing and intentional fouling out in the very next game, not on 63:confusedshrug:
You should clown harder Bran's 11 performance...

Let's dig deeper...in 86, MJ was still not the player he became in the 90s, he wasn't considered better than Magic or Bird at this point, he missed most of the season due to injury but he still made a heroic effort against the 86 Celtics, considered by many experts as the GOAT single season team. He scored 45 the first game and 63 the second before that last dud. One bad game doesn't make a bad series.


OTOH, Bran was already considered the best player in 2011, he hooked with a top 3 player and FMVP winner in Wade and All Star Bosh was actually good back then. He then proceeded to have the worst Finals for a GOAT level player. Scored 8 points in a must win Finals game and just looked shook and lost in the 4th quarter. He was so bad, he got called a bitch by Jason Terry and Marion repeatedly punked him. Seriously, it looked like Bran purposely sabotaged Wade's shot at his second FMVP. I even felt sorry for him. That was the definition of a bad series.

LeBron will end up in the GOAT list but also as a GOAT choker.

[Trollsmasher]

You should clown harder Bran's 11 performance...

Let's dig deeper...in 86, MJ was still not the player he became in the 90s, he wasn't considered better than Magic or Bird at this point, he missed most of the season due to injury but he still made a heroic effort against the 86 Celtics, considered by many experts as the GOAT single season team. He scored 45 the first game and 63 the second before that last dud. One bad game doesn't make a bad series.


OTOH, Bran was already considered the best player in 2011, he hooked with a top 3 player and FMVP winner in Wade and All Star Bosh was actually good back then. He then proceeded to have the worst Finals for a GOAT level player. Scored 8 points in a must win Finals game and just looked shook and lost in the 4th quarter. He was so bad, he got called a bitch by Jason Terry and Marion repeatedly punked him. Seriously, it looked like Bran purposely sabotaged Wade's shot at his second FMVP. I even felt sorry for him. That was the definition of a bad series.

LeBron will end up in the GOAT list but also as a GOAT choker.
That's difference between you and me - I am able to acknowledge faults, you are not.

How about the '89 quitting?

[funnystuff]

Face it TheMan, Jordan will never play again, you will never see him play again, he is old news. Time to move on. :cheers:

[TheMan]

That's difference between you and me - I am able to acknowledge faults, you are not.

How about the '89 quitting?
Dude, yeah Jordan had bad games, everyone does, his 95 series against Orlando was probably his worst but he gets a pass by me because you could argue he wasn't in basketball shape. His next full season he led the Bulls to a 72-10 historic season so all is forgiven:applause:

All I'm saying is LeBron stans should be the last to call a player a choker, like they're doing to Durant as we speak.

[TylerOO]

Fellow Bran stan Silkk clown's on MJ's 63 pt playoffs game loss to an even better Celtics team...

And I was talking about 08, not the old injured 12 Celtics, keep up

You Bran stans should stay consistent at least, no:confusedshrug:

LeBron dropped 45 in that game 7. You're thinking of the game 6 vs Boston. Keep up

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

In other news, Wade is shooting a career high from the field.

Miami's offense :bowdown:

[Kingwillball]

The Thunder were facing tougher teams Memphis, Clippers and Spurs not Bobcats and Nets

So Lebron would struggle.. No

[Dave3]

I totally forgot that the team that shoots a better FG% gets the win. I always thought it was point total. So weird.
LIttle difference -> it's not points, or point total, rather point differential. The differential has many more factors than just taking and making a lot of shots, including how much of your attempts you convert as a team (that's both FG%, turnover number, and the number of opportunities you make for your teammates, not just yourself), how many extra possessions you create (offensive rebounds and steals), and how much you prevent the other team from scoring (obviously defense here). The fact of the matter is, FG% is a huge part of teams winning, because the more of your possessions you convert to points, the much bigger chance you have of outscoring them given equal shot attempts (which they rarely are, due to turnovers and offensive rebounds).

Now, I'm on neither side of the debate, as I think boiling down LeBron vs Durant to FG% is as simplistic as boiling down KAJ vs Jordan to FG%. They're different players who are both great scorers and score in different ways. But LeBron stans trying to act that FG% is everything, and LeBron haters trying to act like FG% is nothing are just trying out-stupid each other.

Durant played better in the regular season (by a clear but not large margin), but LeBron has played better in the playoffs (again it's a slight margin when you take competition into account, but still a clear one). Saying either player is better than the other is fine as I think both players have an argument, but saying it's one clearly and not the other at this point, is more likely to be bias than an objective opinion. Personally, I'm still leaning towards Durant because he played better for 82 games rather than 10 so far in the playoffs, and I do think he will play better in the next few games. If he either plays poorly, makes it to the finals, and plays poorly against LeBron, I'd most likely consider LeBron the better player for the year. If however he plays well and keeps his teams in every game (whether win or lose) I'd keep him above LeBron for this year, even if LeBRon goes on to win the championship (unless he does it in very dominating fashion).

Comparing these players can result in a huge depth of basketball conversation and knowledge sharing, but when you guys keep boiling every argument down to one overused point leads to people having the same argument over and over again, which is fuel for all these troll threads.

[Fawker]

http://i57.tinypic.com/2vctemv.png

[imdaman99]

That's what happens when you play vastly inferior teams. You think Grizzlies and Spurs aren't capable of making bran look bad? :oldlol: I'd check recent history if I were you.

[Dave3]

That's what happens when you play vastly inferior teams. You think Grizzlies and Spurs aren't capable of making bran look bad? :oldlol: I'd check recent history if I were you.
Are the Grizzlies and Clippers (and Spurs so far) better than the Bobcats, Nets, and Pacers? Hell yes. The difference though is offensively much more than defensively, so acting like a team having better offense results in opposing players having worse numbers makes no sense. This season the Pacers were the best defensive team in the league, and the Bobcats were better defensively then both the Grizzlies and the Clippers. Durant has played better teams, but LeBron has played better defenses. Which one to you affects a player's numbers more?

Recent history against these teams? LeBron played about the same as Durant is right now against the Spurs last year, that's true. He did however shoot 57% against the Grizzlies this year, and 52% (with 40% 3s) against the Clippers. Do I think LeBron would have identical stats against those teams in the playoffs? No I don't, but someone acting as if the teams being played against is the real difference between the way LeBron and Durant have played in this playoffs hasn't been watching them play very closely.

[imdaman99]

Are the Grizzlies and Clippers (and Spurs so far) better than the Bobcats, Nets, and Pacers? Hell yes. The difference though is offensively much more than defensively, so acting like a team having better offense results in opposing players having worse numbers makes no sense. This season the Pacers were the best defensive team in the league, and the Bobcats were better defensively then both the Grizzlies and the Clippers. Durant has played better teams, but LeBron has played better defenses. Which one to you affects a player's numbers more?

Recent history against these teams? LeBron played about the same as Durant is right now against the Spurs last year, that's true. He did however shoot 57% against the Grizzlies this year, and 52% (with 40% 3s) against the Clippers. Do I think LeBron would have identical stats against those teams in the playoffs? No I don't, but someone acting as if the teams being played against is the real difference between the way LeBron and Durant have played in this playoffs hasn't been watching them play very closely.
Look, there is less pressure when you are playing against a team you know cannot beat you. Grizzlies, Clips, and Spurs are ALL teams capable of beating anyone in a series. How many even would give the Bobcats, Nets, or Pacers a chance of beating the Heat. It's a testament to how good Miami as a unit has looked and how poor the eastern conference has.

Please don't tell me you actually think the Bobcats are better defensively than the Grizzlies. Put the statsheet down.

[Bandito]

mid range shooter vs a slasher. WHo would average a better %FG?

[VengefulAngel]

mid range shooter vs a slasher. WHo would average a better %FG?

Honest question, who do you think would average a higher amount of free throws?

[Solefade]

Honest question, who do you think would average a higher amount of free throws?


ether

[Solefade]

people acting like bron hasn't played against teams that are just as good defensivey if not better

[ArbitraryWater]

mid range shooter vs a slasher. WHo would average a better %FG?

So we will default LeBron for his playing style? :lol

Same with the "size" bs... its no excuse.

who would average more ft's tho?

[bukowski81]

You realize there is a correlation right? Thats like saying "who cares about getting steals/blocks/rebounds since its only the team with the most points that win."

There is not. Miami is the team with the highest EFF FG% in the regular season and there are 6 teams with a better or equal record.

Indiana is ranked 19 in EFF FG% and there are only 3 teams with a better record.

Okahoma, 2nd best record, ranked 6th in EFF FG%, the list goes on an one.

[VengefulAngel]

There is not. Miami is the team with the highest EFF FG% in the regular season and there are 6 teams with a better or equal record.

Indiana is ranked 19 in EFF FG% and there are only 3 teams with a better record.

Okahoma, 2nd best record, ranked 6th in EFF FG%, the list goes on an one.

It's a bigger TS% gap, Lebron is TS% is 67 percent, Durant's is 57 percent. Explain that.

[arifgokcen]

You guys are so right. We should petition Adam Silver to change the NBA winning criteria. Field Goal Percentage should decide the winner of games, not point total. Let's run it by him.
Dumbest post of the year.

They are saying there is a correlation with high FG% and winning

[Marlo_Stanfield]

durant sucks ass
he would be borderline top 5 without all the retarded bailout he receives.
not only him but his teammates which shadows the fact that he cant make anyone better
the Thunder role players get super star calls.
even reggie scrubson looks to the refs in disgust after EVERY drive he doesnt get a call:biggums:

[J Shuttlesworth]

Look, there is less pressure when you are playing against a team you know cannot beat you. Grizzlies, Clips, and Spurs are ALL teams capable of beating anyone in a series. How many even would give the Bobcats, Nets, or Pacers a chance of beating the Heat. It's a testament to how good Miami as a unit has looked and how poor the eastern conference has.

Please don't tell me you actually think the Bobcats are better defensively than the Grizzlies. Put the statsheet down.
MKG is a solid perimeter defender. He's no Tony Allen, but LeBron has his way w/ Tony Allen. Bobcats are the 5th or 6th highest rated D in the league, and they are solid defensively. It's just their offense that is weak.

I mean there's really no excuse for KD's FG% to drop so much. He has like 6 inches on Tony Allen, and he was being guarded by CP3/Matt Barnes in the WCSF. I understand shooting poorly against the Spurs, but Durant has gone from 50% to 45% Lebron's gone from 56.7% to 56.8%

DAT CONSISTENCY

[TheMan]

Why are Bran stans claiming KD shoots more FTs?

Bran 9.6 FTAs
KD 8.4 FTAs

Last I checked, 10 > 8 :confusedshrug:

[mehyaM24]

trolling the public again, fplii?

[Dave3]

Look, there is less pressure when you are playing against a team you know cannot beat you. Grizzlies, Clips, and Spurs are ALL teams capable of beating anyone in a series. How many even would give the Bobcats, Nets, or Pacers a chance of beating the Heat. It's a testament to how good Miami as a unit has looked and how poor the eastern conference has.

Please don't tell me you actually think the Bobcats are better defensively than the Grizzlies. Put the statsheet down.
Now you're not arguing basketball anymore, you're arguing external factors that can't be proven either way. "LeBron had less pressure on him to win so he played well" - there is no way of knowing whether that's true or not, or how LeBron would play psychologically against better teams purely based on the fact that they're better teams. What I can say is that in the Eastern conference playoffs, LeBron has always had his best games and series against the best teams - 2011 Bulls/Celtics, 2012 Pacers (when down) and Celtics, and 2013 Pacers. In the series in which everyone thought that Miami would win either way, that's actually when he had his less impressive series (Milwuakee, Philadelphia, Chicago (minus Rose/Noah). So actually, history in the last few years shows the contrary to your point. Either way though, neither of us can make a statement with absolute certainty regarding his psychological state and how he would play if he thought "this is gonna be hard to win" vs "this is gonna be easy to win"

As for the Bobcats/Grizzlies, yeah the Bobcats are probably slightly better defensively. It's obvious though that the Grizzlies defense does exceptionally well against teams with star perimeter scorers because of their perimeter defense (highlighted by Tony Allen). I'm not saying LeBron would score easier against the Grizzlies, but saying "better team" means nothing if it's not an actual judgement of their defensive abilities. The better team doesn't mean the better defense, and the better defense is much more important in judging an opposing player's offense.

[VengefulAngel]

Given all Durant stans are dodging this. Ill post it again.

Lebron: 67 TS%
Durant: 57 TS%

[ArbitraryWater]

Why are Bran stans claiming KD shoots more FTs?

Bran 9.6 FTAs
KD 8.4 FTAs

Last I checked, 10 > 8 :confusedshrug:

You dont think the ft's heavily inflate durant's regular season averages? i could give less of a fack about the playoffs right now... thats how it should be.

WHY is a mid range shooter, like even that bandit guy acknolwedged, averaging more fts than a slasher?!?!

[JT123]

Given all Durant stans are dodging this. Ill post it again.

Lebron: 67 TS%
Durant: 57 TS%
TS% is Joyner's favorite stat. :oldlol:
Strangely he has been MIA the entire post season. :coleman:

[VengefulAngel]

TS% is Joyner's favorite stat. :oldlol:
Strangely he has been MIA the entire post season. :coleman:

Was this the dude who was trying to prove Durant was a better passer than Lebron?

[TheMan]

You dont think the ft's heavily inflate durant's regular season averages? i could give less of a fack about the playoffs right now... thats how it should be.

WHY is a mid range shooter, like even that bandit guy acknolwedged, averaging more fts than a slasher?!?!
I agree it seems kinda fishy but to be honest, I really don't watch alot of OKC games. Probably around a dozen games including the playoffs.

[VengefulAngel]

I agree it seems kinda fishy but to be honest, I really don't watch alot of OKC games. Probably around a dozen games including the playoffs.

He was using the rip-through move when they were in the bonus about 2 or 3 times a game.

[KG215]

He was using the rip-through move when they were in the bonus about 2 or 3 times a game.
No, he wasn't. He'd have stretches of 3-5 games in a row where he'd use it once, maybe two times each, and other stretches of 3-5 games where he might use the rip-through move just once or twice total.

[White Mamba]

In the playoffs
FT35, pathetic.wade is shooting great too, so?

they play for the Heat, they dank the ball everygame about 5 times each, how can you shoot bad taking under 20 shots per game and dunk the ball so many times?

[wally_world]

Kobe has 0 games under 50% shooting this playoffs

Kobe >

[ArbitraryWater]

No, he wasn't. He'd have stretches of 3-5 games in a row where he'd use it once, maybe two times each, and other stretches of 3-5 games where he might use the rip-through move just once or twice total.

You're actually the most annoying OKC fan because I know you can also be, you know, not retarded... instead you post this

http://i.gyazo.com/96bcb504c645e7b41d11d1170c0591ab.png

[Warfan]

Durants been inconsistent with his shooting and has missed a lot of makable shots so far in the playoffs. Lebron has done well to get himself good looks by going into the post, getting to the rim more and he's making a good % of jumpers that sometimes the defense gives him. It also helps that lebron has better spacing but he has been smarter with his shot selection and has worked more to get better looks for himself while durant sometimes settles for shots.

[VengefulAngel]

wade is shooting great too, so?

they play for the Heat, they dank the ball everygame about 5 times each, how can you shoot bad taking under 20 shots per game and dunk the ball so many times?

are you criticising the Heat for playing good efficient basketball?

[CeltsGarlic]

You only have one house? Well Juicy J has 4

[KG215]

You're actually the most annoying OKC fan because I know you can also be, you know, not retarded... instead you post this

http://i.gyazo.com/96bcb504c645e7b41d11d1170c0591ab.png
Right. Posting like that once every 20-30 posts compared to someone like you spewing stupid bullshit essentially every post in the same thing.

[VengefulAngel]

Right. Posting like that once every 20-30 posts compared to someone like you spewing stupid bullshit essentially every post in the same thing.

He was using the rip-through a lot, I watched around 50 OKC games and would see him do it multiple times. I don't necessarily blame him but the refs should understand its a non-scoring move.

[greymatter]

Lebron has developed an amazing midrange pullup when shooting from a triple threat position. Seems like he never misses that shot whenever he has Scola or West switch off on him, especially when he throws them off with a jab step or two.

[VengefulAngel]

Lebron has developed an amazing midrange pullup when shooting from a triple threat position. Seems like he never misses that shot whenever he has Scola or West switch off on him, especially when he throws them off with a jab step or two.

Just a little caveat
THIS POSTSEASON:
Wade is averaging more points PER 36 MINUTES.

TS%
KD: .571
D Wade: .584

PER:

KD:
22.66

Wade:
21.62

[ArbitraryWater]

Right. Posting like that once every 20-30 posts compared to someone like you spewing stupid bullshit essentially every post in the same thing.

The sad thing is you used to be somewhat of a good poster.. you even admitted LeBron >>> Durant this post-season.

[KG215]

He was using the rip-through a lot, I watched around 50 OKC games and would see him do it multiple times. I don't necessarily blame him but the refs should understand its a non-scoring move.
And I watched about 80 OKC games and he certainly wasn't doing it 2-3 times every single game when OKC was in the bonus to get FTs. That implies that, on average, he was getting 4-6 FTA per game simply by baiting defenders with the rip through move. He wasn't. The second half of the season he really went away from it. I can remember 3-4 game stretches where he didn't do it once.

[KG215]

The sad thing is you used to be somewhat of a good poster.. you even admitted LeBron >>> Durant this post-season.
You're just repeating yourself. I still believe LeBron has been better than Durant this postseason. The hell did I say that would leave you to believe otherwise.

Difference between me and you is that I access my crazy/irrational side once every 50 posts or so. Whereas you acces your crazy/irrational side almost every post now. You've never really been a memorable poster, but now you've gone full "Brontard/DurantOKC hater."