Where do you rank Jay-Z all time?

[BigBoss]

He says he's #1, the modern day picasso, and had a huge influence on pop culture.

Do you agree?

To me hes like Kobe. Consistentency/longevity, but not quite #1.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

last

[Dresta]

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No number i can think of seems low enough down the list.

[Kblaze8855]

I cant really put a number to it. I ask myself if hes just "better" than Black Thought, common, or maybe even a guy like J-Live and I suppose id really start expanding the list of people "better".

Then I listen to Can I live...or the wordplay on Already Home...or even a more radio friendly song like Girls Girls Girls....

Pharoah Monch has one of my favorite flows and his lyrics are wild...

I dont know if im gonna still be listening to Desire or What t is in 40 years.

If im alive im gonna play Momma Loves Me.

So I dont know how to rank that.

Not the #1 rapper in any technical way. High on the list. But not #1.

Hes a better song maker than a lot of equal rappers though.

[ArbitraryWater]

Low 50's... trash..

Heard he ripped off another song?

[The-Legend-24]

Top 5.

Reasonable Doubt alone puts him there.

[Kblaze8855]

I see shit like this:


http://youtu.be/hKWfZjG0T7w?t=1m45s


And my respect for his ability rises. hears a beat for the first time....nods for a few minutes...then half freestyles a near classic mumbling getting his words together.

Having spent a little time in studios with people recording...he makes it look so easy.

Reminded of Daz explaining how Snoop made Tha Shiznit. just walked in and heard the beat....asked for a mic and rapped or 10 minutes off the top then they cut it down into one of his best songs.

He repeated himself spelling his name and all like he always did but the flow...the personality...there is more to rap than intricate lyrics.

But Jay has those too.

Hes earned reapect.

[9erempiree]

Jay-Z has put out a lot of garbage too. He is quite talented because of his ability to think of raps without writing them down but the drawbacks are a lot of garbage songs.

[16X]

I rank him below Ja Rule and Little Wayne.

[Patrick Chewing]

Behind Will Smith

[CelticBaller]

Top 10

[Draz]

Doesn't his wife have a higher net worth than he does?

[Rasheed1]

top 3

I have a lot of problems with some the things Jay has done, but as far as building an EPIC rap career???

You CANT KNOCK HIS HUSTLE

[KyleKong]

#1

Hova

[PullupJay]

Top 5 cuz of the halo effect

[Relinquish]

I don't know. The Blueprint was the shit but he also has a ton of garbage albums.

[Rasheed1]

C'Mon...MCs Cant F*ck wit this!!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCP_E5Rsawc)

:bowdown:

[SilkkTheShocker]

Top 10, but still not even in the same galaxy as Pac and C-Murder

[SilkkTheShocker]

I don't know. The Blueprint was the shit but he also has a ton of garbage albums.
The Blueprint might be the most overrated rap album of all time IMO.

[16X]

[QUOTE=Rasheed1]top 3

I have a lot of problems with some the things Jay has done, but as far as building an EPIC rap career???

You CANT KNOCK HIS HUSTLE

[Rasheed1]

Can't knock Justin Bieber's hustle either. Bieber > Jay Z.


Kill yourself you idiot :roll:

[Rasheed1]

More (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUg7G3CPos0)

[16X]

C'Mon...MCs Cant F*ck wit this!!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCP_E5Rsawc)

:bowdown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgtjkHugoY >>>>>>>>>>

[Dilly]

This video shows how big a thief Jay-Z really is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqScH2CfYTg

[16X]

Kill yourself you idiot :roll:
Well, your argument for Jay Z being great was that we have to respect his hustle. I respect it. I respect Biebs hustle too. Bieber is more popular than Jay Z, will end up with more money than him, and has a finer girl than Jay does. I'm not saying I like Bieber's music. I just respect his hustle more than I respect Jay's. Just because Bieber's a big name, that doesn't mean he's one of the most talented ever in his genre. The same goes for Jay.

[Rasheed1]

Well, your argument for Jay Z being great was that we have to respect his hustle. I respect it. I respect Biebs hustle too. Bieber is more popular than Jay Z, will end up with more money than him, and has a finer girl than Jay does. I'm not saying I like Bieber's music. I just respect his hustle more than I respect Jay's. Just because Bieber's a big name, that doesn't mean he's one of the most talented ever in his genre. The same goes for Jay.


Shut the f*ck up

[Rasheed1]

This video shows how big a thief Jay-Z really is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqScH2CfYTg


This is one of my big problems with Jay

[Dilly]

Jay-Z will never be the #1 rapper in the world as long as Nas is alive. Jay-Z cried after hearing ether and admitted Nas won but said it made him stronger.

[Real14]

Low 50's... trash..

Heard he ripped off another song?
I agree plus he ripped off tons of songs:applause:

[Patrick Chewing]

[QUOTE=Rasheed1]top 3

I have a lot of problems with some the things Jay has done, but as far as building an EPIC rap career???

You CANT KNOCK HIS HUSTLE

[MadeFromDust]

a little bit lower than t. i. The KING's back!

[Bosnian Sajo]

I don't think he is bad, but I do think he is mad overrated.

2 Chainz = GOAT

[PHX_Phan]

He's outside of my top 5 but definitely top 10. Too many inexcusable moments for him to be inside that 5 spot.

[Nastradamus]

He had some rough moments early on(post Reasonable Doubt of course) and some of the radio songs are terrible, but overall he has had an elite career. Any album from The Blueprint on is at least solid and potentially special. Kingdom Come and Blueprint 3 are average, but at the same time you can listen to them all the way through and enjoy 'em. Blueprint, Blueprint 2, The Black Album, Holy Grail and American Gangster are all great albums and he gets props for being part of Watch the Throne.