Question for the married guys and the guys that have been in a long term relationship

[TheReal Kendall]

Do y'all still get aroused after seeing your wife in the shower or just walking around naked?

I guess this is a question for the people that's been married for more than 5+ years

[maybeshewill13]

Been with my partner 7 years. Yes, she still hot doe. I could imagine it was different with people whose partner let themselves go. It's not the same as we first started going out though, because I was a 17 year old horny teenager that got turned on by anything.

[bdreason]

I've been with my gf for about 8 years... and she's still significantly better looking than me. Also, as you get older, at least for myself, non-physical attraction becomes much for significant. There are so many things other than my gf's looks that attract me to her sexually. Her voice, her smell, her sense of humor, her intelligence... the list goes on and on.

[Freakzilla]

No. Once a woman feels comfortable enough to leave the bathroom door open, the attraction is lost.

[nathanjizzle]

I've been with my gf for about 8 years... and she's still significantly better looking than me. Also, as you get older, at least for myself, non-physical attraction becomes much for significant. There are so many things other than my gf's looks that attract me to her sexually. Her voice, her smell, her sense of humor, her intelligence... the list goes on and on.

yea, that voice, is adorable.

[Rameek]

Even though we're no longer together I was and probably always be attracted to my ex-wife.

[Draz]

My girl walks around with just her bra and panties and it still turns me on after 2 years, shit when she wears leggings at home or tights I get super turned on. She has really nice body, the best I've ever been with so I still get aroused. We haven't went a day yet that I don't dry hump her or sexually touch her.

[Freakzilla]

My man walks around with just his bra and panties and it still turns me on after 2 years, shit when he wears leggings at home or tights I get super turned on. He has really nice body, the best I've ever been with so I still get aroused. We haven't went a day yet that I don't dry hump him or sexually touch him.


OP was asking about girls you fvcking fgt.

[D-FENS]

Together for over 5 years, married for 1. Of course I get aroused by her. You marry a girl that keeps you aroused. We're 8 months pregnant now and still into it

[PHX_Phan]

4 years, still very attracted to my girl.

[D-Rose]

Well obviously if the person is naked all day long, you're not going to be turned on after awhile. These things change over time. The first time you see a girl naked will be a lot more arousing than the 3200th time.

[Waking_Life]

Together for over 5 years, married for 1. Of course I get aroused by her. You marry a girl that keeps you aroused. We're 8 months pregnant now and still into it
She's 8 months pregnant. You're not both pregnant. You inseminated her, no need to feel left out of the process.

[Waking_Life]

Well obviously if the person is naked all day long, you're not going to be turned on after awhile. These things change over time. The first time you see a girl naked will be a lot more arousing than the 3200th time.
That's not a fact bro. Depends on the woman. Some women are adept to creating a sexual atmosphere, to go along with the arousing body. Similar to how a woman can have a good body, yet still not be skilled in bed. It all depends on the sensual intangibles.

[Meticode]

I've been with my wife for 9 nears, been married almost 6 years.

I still get turned on by my wife, but it's really dependent on my mood and a bunch of other things. My weight is one of them. It has fluctuated the last 3 years. When I'm overweight and eating horribly, my sex drive is a lot less. We might have sex once or twice a week because we're actually both in the mood to do it. When I'm healthy and eating right it's probably 3-4 times a week. Your health definitely effects your sexual arousal and you libido and how you look at your partner and feel about them sexually.

If you don't feel good about yourself then how do you expect your partner to feel about you?

[Im so nba'd out]

OP was asking about girls you fvcking fgt.
your going to fit in justtttttt fine here
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[Waking_Life]

I've been with my wife for 9 nears, been married almost 6 years.

I still get turned on by my wife, but it's really dependent on my mood and a bunch of other things. My weight is one of them. It has fluctuated the last 3 years. When I'm overweight and eating horribly, my sex drive is a lot less. We might have sex once or twice a week because we're actually both in the mood to do it. When I'm healthy and eating right it's probably 3-4 times a week. Your health definitely effects your sexual arousal and you libido and how you look at your partner and feel about them sexually.

If you don't feel good about yourself then how do you expect your partner to feel about you?
OP is talking about how you look at your woman. Not about how she looks at you...you self absorbed neurotic basterd.

[Stuckey]

married 2 years , been together for 5

no I'm not turned on any more cause shes pregnant

[DukeDelonte13]

married 2 years , been together for 5

no I'm not turned on any more cause shes pregnant

:cheers: congrats bro.

[Bandito]

married 2 years , been together for 5

no I'm not turned on any more cause shes pregnant
You dont like fatties you judgemental bastard..

[glidedrxlr22]

I've been with my wife 11 years......married 7. Even though she's had 2 kids my wife still has her figure. I smack her in the butt throughout the day. Sometiems in the mornings as I'm getting dressed to go to work and she's getting undressed to shower, I attack her for a wham bam thank you mam. She pretty much lets me have it whenever I want. I'm lucky, because there's about 3 other girls I could've ended up with that got fat after a kid or two. Some of them just don't seem to care. My wife gets the concept of looking do-able for your man. She understands man gets aroused by the visual.

[Meticode]

OP is talking about how you look at your woman. Not about how she looks at you...you self absorbed neurotic basterd.
Like I said in the beginning of the post, how I feel about my wife is largely depend on how I feel and look at myself. And it's been like this with any relationship I've been in. She's still attractive to me in all situations, but how strong that attraction is is dependent on how I feel.

[~primetime~]

Meticode I thought you and your wife were separated? I take it you two reconciled?

[Meticode]

Meticode I thought you and your wife were separated? I take it you two reconciled?
Not going to get too deep into it, but yes we reconciled. I f*cked up, it was a mistake on my part because of shit we were going through mainly because of me. We still love each other very much, we're giving it a second go and everything has been absolutely great since late last year.

[~primetime~]

Not going to get too deep into it, but yes we reconciled. I f*cked up, it was a mistake on my part because of shit we were going through mainly because of me. We still love each other very much, we're giving it a second go and everything has been absolutely great since late last year.
:cheers:

[ForeverHeat]

Not going to get too deep into it, but yes we reconciled. I f*cked up, it was a mistake on my part because of shit we were going through mainly because of me. We still love each other very much, we're giving it a second go and everything has been absolutely great since late last year.

Are you the guy that cheated? Its good to hear things are going well, but what do you think about the old adage "If you do it once, you can do it again"?

[2LeTTeRS]

I've been with my wife 11 years......married 7. Even though she's had 2 kids my wife still has her figure. I smack her in the butt throughout the day. Sometiems in the mornings as I'm getting dressed to go to work and she's getting undressed to shower, I attack her for a wham bam thank you mam. She pretty much lets me have it whenever I want. I'm lucky, because there's about 3 other girls I could've ended up with that got fat after a kid or two. Some of them just don't seem to care. My wife gets the concept of looking do-able for your man. She understands man gets aroused by the visual.

Sounds like you found a good one. I can't lie I was always afraid how my girl's figure would look after she had my son; but a year later she's roughly the same size as she was pre-baby and she still takes the time to work out with me.

[Meticode]

Are you the guy that cheated?
Yes.


Its good to hear things are going well, but what do you think about the old adage "If you do it once, you can do it again"?
Not really. All I can do is be the best husband and father I can be. I can't be the best husband I can be unless I'm a great father, and I can't be the father I want to be if I'm not in my child's life every single day. I hate thinking about custody situations and bouncing a child back and forth between parents. I'm sure there's some really great stories that come out of situations from that, but I almost lost my family over a stupid choice that I made.

I've come to realize that we can all say we will or won't do something all we want, but the fact of the matter is none of us can predict what we will do until we're in that absolutely situation presented with the choices.

[riseagainst]

i've been with my girl for 6 years now. At first everyone was against it because people said it was incest. Now our parents accept us for our feelings for each other.

[glidedrxlr22]

Sounds like you found a good one. I can't lie I was always afraid how my girl's figure would look after she had my son; but a year later she's roughly the same size as she was pre-baby and she still takes the time to work out with me.

That's good. Things get more difficult if you have another child. After our first we were still able to do stuff like working out and going to the movies....but with two it's proven to be a big challenge. The fatigue gets to you. Sounds like your girl wants to stay fit/normal for herself and you .

[hateraid]

I've known my wife since '97, married her in 2004 (10 year anniversary this July 31)
I don't have the same instant physical attraction, but I still wanna to F my wifey everyday. Later in life it becomes a treat as opposed to something that was raw physical attraction. Back then she would do kinky things like I'd come home and she'd be washing dishes in her bra and panties. I'd give the D bent over right on the sink.
Now with a kid in the house everything has got to be a little inconspicuous. We save things for more special intimate occasions. There is the occasional OK the kid is at soccer and we got half an hour. It's more time permitting.
But I still am just as sexually attracted. But then again, I think with my D.

[DukeDelonte13]

yes i'm still very much attracted to my wife. I think the lesser attraction has more to do with health and stress levels moreso than familiarity. If i got some crazy sh*t going down at the office i'm less likely to be banging my wife all night. If things are more laid back i get laid more.

[~primetime~]

I've only been married a year, know for 3, and my wife is yoga instructor material so the attraction is definitely there right now. But I have been in a 7 year relationship before her where it did fade pretty bad over time.

Despite all the positive responses in here I think the truth is that it does get more and more difficult over time, you have to start trying new things to keep it "fresh" and get out of your comfort zone every now and then. And in the long run you have to fall back on much more than physical attraction, you have to actually love them as humans and view them as your life partner, because no one looks "hot" forever.

[hateraid]

I've only been married a year, know for 3, and my wife is yoga instructor material so the attraction is definitely there right now. But I have been in a 7 year relationship before her where it did fade pretty bad over time.

Despite all the positive responses in here I think the truth is that it does get more and more difficult over time, you have to start trying new things to keep it "fresh" and get out of your comfort zone every now and then. And in the long run you have to fall back on much more than physical attraction, you have to actually love them as humans and view them as your life partner, because no one looks "hot" forever.

:applause:
That's how i feel about my wifey. The way I look at it is I've seen her at her worst. I'm still with her.
Like I mentioned the raw physical attraction fades but the intimate emotional one is there.

[glidedrxlr22]

Thinking about it, what kills the attraction for me at times are arguments, nagging, and kid related stress and fatigue. Other times I give her the porno treatment and it's a good stress reliever. I suppose it just depends how I feel at the moment.

[2LeTTeRS]

I've only been married a year, know for 3, and my wife is yoga instructor material so the attraction is definitely there right now. But I have been in a 7 year relationship before her where it did fade pretty bad over time.

Despite all the positive responses in here I think the truth is that it does get more and more difficult over time, you have to start trying new things to keep it "fresh" and get out of your comfort zone every now and then. And in the long run you have to fall back on much more than physical attraction, you have to actually love them as humans and view them as your life partner, because no one looks "hot" forever.

I don't know man; maybe I've not been in long enough (3 years at the moment) or maybe I'm just a horndog but I still try to get it in basically anytime my son is asleep.

[AlphaWolf24]

Tonight you start off dinner with a glass of Red Wine and garlic Bread. followed by a finely marinated file Minion , topped with buttered Mushrooms and a Side of Lobster tail, dessert is chocolate Cake and Vanilla Ice Cream....

Tomorrow you start off dinner with a glass of Red Wine and garlic Bread. followed by a finely marinated file Minion , topped with buttered Mushrooms and a Side of Lobster tail, dessert is chocolate Cake and Vanilla Ice Cream....

Monday you start off dinner with a glass of Red Wine and garlic Bread. followed by a finely marinated file Minion , topped with buttered Mushrooms and a Side of Lobster tail, dessert is chocolate Cake and Vanilla Ice Cream....

Tuesday you start off dinner with a glass of Red Wine and garlic Bread. followed by a finely marinated file Minion , topped with buttered Mushrooms and a Side of Lobster tail, dessert is chocolate Cake and Vanilla Ice Cream....

Wednesday you start off dinner with a glass of Red Wine and garlic Bread. followed by a finely marinated file Minion , topped with buttered Mushrooms and a Side of Lobster tail, dessert is chocolate Cake and Vanilla Ice Cream....

Thursday you start off dinner with a glass of Red Wine and garlic Bread. followed by a finely marinated file Minion , topped with buttered Mushrooms and a Side of Lobster tail, dessert is chocolate Cake and Vanilla Ice Cream....

Friday you start off dinner with a glass of Red Wine and garlic Bread. followed by a finely marinated file Minion , topped with buttered Mushrooms and a Side of Lobster tail, dessert is chocolate Cake and Vanilla Ice Cream....


well...you get the point...

[D-FENS]

Tonight you start off dinner with a glass of Red Wine and garlic Bread. followed by a finely marinated file Minion , topped with buttered Mushrooms and a Side of Lobster tail, dessert is chocolate Cake and Vanilla Ice Cream....

Tomorrow you start off dinner with a glass of Red Wine and garlic Bread. followed by a finely marinated file Minion , topped with buttered Mushrooms and a Side of Lobster tail, dessert is chocolate Cake and Vanilla Ice Cream....

Monday you start off dinner with a glass of Red Wine and garlic Bread. followed by a finely marinated file Minion , topped with buttered Mushrooms and a Side of Lobster tail, dessert is chocolate Cake and Vanilla Ice Cream....

Tuesday you start off dinner with a glass of Red Wine and garlic Bread. followed by a finely marinated file Minion , topped with buttered Mushrooms and a Side of Lobster tail, dessert is chocolate Cake and Vanilla Ice Cream....

Wednesday you start off dinner with a glass of Red Wine and garlic Bread. followed by a finely marinated file Minion , topped with buttered Mushrooms and a Side of Lobster tail, dessert is chocolate Cake and Vanilla Ice Cream....

Thursday you start off dinner with a glass of Red Wine and garlic Bread. followed by a finely marinated file Minion , topped with buttered Mushrooms and a Side of Lobster tail, dessert is chocolate Cake and Vanilla Ice Cream....

Friday you start off dinner with a glass of Red Wine and garlic Bread. followed by a finely marinated file Minion , topped with buttered Mushrooms and a Side of Lobster tail, dessert is chocolate Cake and Vanilla Ice Cream....


well...you get the point...

What if you also pick up McDonalds on the way home?

[GimmeThat]

Did you marry a hot girl so it reduced your possibility of cheating?

Or did you marry a housewife so it gave you the possibility of a home?



While it is cliche to say that the happy balance inbetween is effort

sometimes we are better off recognizing with what we are stuck with
instead of pondering about what we might not even be able to latch on to.

[~primetime~]

I don't know man; maybe I've not been in long enough (3 years at the moment) or maybe I'm just a horndog but I still try to get it in basically anytime my son is asleep.
3 years is nothing, I'm like that too right now...I'm talking 10-20-30 years down the road

[~primetime~]

Tonight you start off dinner with a glass of Red Wine and garlic Bread. followed by a finely marinated file Minion , topped with buttered Mushrooms and a Side of Lobster tail, dessert is chocolate Cake and Vanilla Ice Cream....

Tomorrow you start off dinner with a glass of Red Wine and garlic Bread. followed by a finely marinated file Minion , topped with buttered Mushrooms and a Side of Lobster tail, dessert is chocolate Cake and Vanilla Ice Cream....

Monday you start off dinner with a glass of Red Wine and garlic Bread. followed by a finely marinated file Minion , topped with buttered Mushrooms and a Side of Lobster tail, dessert is chocolate Cake and Vanilla Ice Cream....

Tuesday you start off dinner with a glass of Red Wine and garlic Bread. followed by a finely marinated file Minion , topped with buttered Mushrooms and a Side of Lobster tail, dessert is chocolate Cake and Vanilla Ice Cream....

Wednesday you start off dinner with a glass of Red Wine and garlic Bread. followed by a finely marinated file Minion , topped with buttered Mushrooms and a Side of Lobster tail, dessert is chocolate Cake and Vanilla Ice Cream....

Thursday you start off dinner with a glass of Red Wine and garlic Bread. followed by a finely marinated file Minion , topped with buttered Mushrooms and a Side of Lobster tail, dessert is chocolate Cake and Vanilla Ice Cream....

Friday you start off dinner with a glass of Red Wine and garlic Bread. followed by a finely marinated file Minion , topped with buttered Mushrooms and a Side of Lobster tail, dessert is chocolate Cake and Vanilla Ice Cream....


well...you get the point...
yep, that's why you have to switch shit up every now and then

my wife does crazy shit with her hair...one month she is a blonde, the next a brunette, then bright red, even blue hair...that alone adds some variety for me

she will also do kinky outfits every now and then...FUN! :banana:

if you take your wife to a sex shop and purchase an outfit you both like...it's like xmas when you get home and go to bed.

[Draz]

OP was asking about girls you fvcking fgt.
You dam virgin why are you in this thread Harry
Thought I told you to make me a milkshake at McDonald's you dam virgin

[rufuspaul]

Our 15th anniversary is coming up in October. The animal attraction that makes you **** like rabbits in heat does tend to fade over time. Like others have said, it gets replaced with a different, deeper intimacy. It's not better or worse, imo, just different.

Adding **** to the mix helps too.

[~primetime~]

Our 15th anniversary is coming up in October. The animal attraction that makes you **** like rabbits in heat does tend to fade over time. Like others have said, it gets replaced with a different, deeper intimacy. It's not better or worse, imo, just different.

Adding **** to the mix helps too.
lol my wife won't go for that...




























yet

[hateraid]

Our 15th anniversary is coming up in October. The animal attraction that makes you **** like rabbits in heat does tend to fade over time. Like others have said, it gets replaced with a different, deeper intimacy. It's not better or worse, imo, just different.

Adding **** to the mix helps too.

I can't hit that up no more. Last time we tried out popped a beautiful baby hemroid

[AlphaWolf24]

yep, that's why you have to switch shit up every now and then

my wife does crazy shit with her hair...one month she is a blonde, the next a brunette, then bright red, even blue hair...that alone adds some variety for me

she will also do kinky outfits every now and then...FUN! :banana:

if you take your wife to a sex shop and purchase an outfit you both like...it's like xmas when you get home and go to bed.


true....( but didn't you say you and yo girl were on year 3)

but what about year 10 and beyond?

You can dress her up all you want....just because you put A1 sauce on sh!t don't make it steak.


( not talking about you or yo girl.....just saying in general)

[~primetime~]

true....( but didn't you say you and yo girl were on year 3)

but what about year 10 and beyond?

You can dress her up all you want....just because you put A1 sauce on sh!t don't make it steak.


( not talking about you or yo girl.....just saying in general)
Yep, if we make it to year 10 then we will have to still be keeping it fresh, and I do anticipate it being a struggle to some degree...vast majority of married couples go through that.

I'm not sure exactly how that will go but it's better for me to worry about that when it gets here rather than right now, there is no telling what life will look like for us 10 years down the road.

[DeuceWallaces]

Been 11 years. We don't bang all the time now, but the desire kind of fades to constantly ****. I still like seeing her out of the shower speaking to the original post. Like everyone said, it just changes into something different, and probably better.

[Draz]

never been attracted to anyone for more than a couple months. I'll still find them good looking but I'll get tired of them/they will reveal their crazy/shitty side and I won't find them attractive anymore
It's been 3 years but your still aattracted to me

[Draz]

:biggums:
I can't hit that up no more. Last time we tried out popped a beautiful baby hemroid

I'm afraid of this.

Maybe Harry can explain his hemroid experiences when his father gives it to him?

[AlphaWolf24]

What if you also pick up McDonalds on the way home?


http://www.allsingaporestuff.com/article/health-department-confirmed-semen-found-mcdonald%E2%80%99s-mayonnaise

:eek:

[longtime lurker]

This thread is hilarious it's like listening to a bunch of my uncles talk about marriage :lol

Serious question though, how do you guys fight the feeling of wanting to f*ck every girl in the world. So many beautiful women in this world I could never see myself settling down.

[Waking_Life]

This thread is hilarious it's like listening to a bunch of my uncles talk about marriage :lol

Serious question though, how do you guys fight the feeling of wanting to f*ck every girl in the world. So many beautiful women in this world I could never see myself settling down.
It takes true fortitude to have control over ones own impulses.

It's called self control Motherf*cker...

[D-Rose]

To everyone in the thread (I'm looking at you Meticode)...pics or it didn't happen! :lol

[rufuspaul]

Serious question though, how do you guys fight the feeling of wanting to f*ck every girl in the world. So many beautiful women in this world I could never see myself settling down.


Every young guy feels this way. Then you grow up. Well, most of us do anyway.

[Bandito]

I can't hit that up no more. Last time we tried out popped a beautiful baby hemroid
:roll:

It must suck to be you...how does a hemroid feels like?

[AlphaWolf24]

Every young guy feels this way. Then you grow up. Well, most of us do anyway.


BS....

You think Young Men grow up and don't want to Smash young tenders???...that's why the Divorce rate is like 75%

30 , 40 , 50 years old it don't change.....the only thing that changes is circumstance.

If I told you you could cheat and bang a Fine young tender without ever getting caught.... I bet 99.9% of men in long relationships would go ahead and Bust.

[DeuceWallaces]

BS....

You think Young Men grow up and don't want to Smash young tenders???...that's why the Divorce rate is like 75%

30 , 40 , 50 years old it don't change.....the only thing that changes is circumstance.

If I told you you could cheat and bang a Fine young tender without ever getting caught.... I bet 99.9% of men in long relationships would go ahead and Bust.

You'll grow up some day.

[AlphaWolf24]

You'll grow up some day.


The whole idea/concept/religion of Marriage is barbaric and flawed.

I will grow up.....but you need to educate and apply yo self.

A very small % of males want to be with only 1 person for a long period of time...

the majority of us want to attract and be with as many people as we can handle.


Hope you find happiness.....Good Luck kid.....

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

The whole idea/concept/religion of Marriage is barbaric and flawed.

I will grow up.....but you need to educate and apply yo self.

A very small % of males want to be with only 1 person for a long period of time...

the majority of us want to attract and be with as many people as we can handle.


Hope you find happiness.....Good Luck kid.....

Women are also not monogamous apparently.

[~primetime~]

I'll be honest, I wouldn't advise any male younger than 30 to get married...just go out there and fck as many women as you can without impregnating any of them or contracting an STD. There, those are my deep words of wisdom to you young folk lol.

Alpha is correct in that lusting will not "go away"...hormones just don't work like that. However at some point in time I'm sure my sex drive will diminish to some degree, probably already has begun. And you understand more and more that companionship >>> busting a nut. To me though, companionship isn't nearly as important to a 20-something, youngins need to go out, meet new people, experience different things and different women, you're too young to "settle down" IMO.

[AlphaWolf24]

Women are also not monogamous apparently.


True....Women want other Lovers who satisfy them ....especially when their Lover has started taking them for granted and not Giving them what they need.

Like I said.....It's a very old flawed system .

I'm sure it will work it's way out of our society in the coming generations.




I'll be honest, I wouldn't advise any male younger than 30 to get married...just go out there and fck as many women as you can without impregnating any of them or contracting an STD. There, those are my deep words of wisdom to you young folk lol.

Alpha is correct in that lusting will not "go away"...hormones just don't work like that. However at some point in time I'm sure my sex drive will diminish to some degree, probably already has begun. And you understand more and more that companionship >>> busting a nut. To me though, companionship isn't nearly as important to a 20-something, youngins need to go out, meet new people, experience different things and different women, you're too young to "settle down" IMO.

Solid advice.

[DeuceWallaces]

I'll be honest, I wouldn't advise any male younger than 30 to get married...just go out there and fck as many women as you can without impregnating any of them or contracting an STD. There, those are my deep words of wisdom to you young folk lol.

Alpha is correct in that lusting will not "go away"...hormones just don't work like that. However at some point in time I'm sure my sex drive will diminish to some degree, probably already has begun. And you understand more and more that companionship >>> busting a nut. To me though, companionship isn't nearly as important to a 20-something, youngins need to go out, meet new people, experience different things and different women, you're too young to "settle down" IMO.

Uh, that's exactly how they work. They slowly diminish over time; combine that with emotional or mental maturity and it's not really hard for the average guy to be happy and not cheat.

[~primetime~]

I'm sure it will work it's way out of our society in the coming generations.

monogamy between a mother and father benefits their children to a great degree, this has been pretty much proven. If monogamy were to ever "go away" I think it would do damage to us.

perhaps "marriage" will go away...but not monogamy

[2LeTTeRS]

Uh, that's exactly how they work. They slowly diminish over time; combine that with emotional or mental maturity and it's not really hard for the average guy to be happy and not cheat.

:oldlol: @ not hard for the average guy to not cheat.

[DeuceWallaces]

I can't remember when the last time one of my 10 or so best friends cheated on their woman. You'd have to go back to undergrad I guess.

[~primetime~]

Uh, that's exactly how they work. They slowly diminish over time; combine that with emotional or mental maturity and it's not really hard for the average guy to be happy and not cheat.
diminish =/= vanish

I agree with your overall message here, but most men will always "lust" over attractive women to some degree...it's human nature. Acting on that lust is a whole different story, but let's not pretend like it doesn't exist.

The amount of married men in the US that jerk off to porn every now and then is probably over 90%...that's just a reality

[DeuceWallaces]

diminish =/= vanish

I agree with your overall message here, but most men will always "lust" over attractive women to some degree...it's human nature. Acting on that lust is a whole different story, but let's not pretend like it doesn't exist.

The amount of married men in the US that jerk off to porn is probably over 90%...that's just a reality

Well yeah, that doesn't even bother my lady, but Alpha is talking bullshit about evolution and spreading your seed everywhere.

It's not that hard to control yourself and respect your lady. That's what makes it all the more despicable when the self-righteous types turn out to be the biggest scumbags.

[2LeTTeRS]

I can't remember when the last time one of my 10 or so best friends cheated on their woman. You'd have to go back to undergrad I guess.

Not sure if that's the best gauge of unfaithfulness; once a man has kids he's much less likely to tell the boys that he just risked breaking up his family over a quick nut -- but by no means does that mean if they have a willing attractive partner and an opportunity that would likely lead them to not getting caught that most would not slip.

Hell, just yesterday I woke up to one of my best friends calling me saying his girl went out of town for Memorial Day and he used his opportunity to smash 3 different girls. As sad as it sounds I think most of us are like him.

[DeuceWallaces]

Only 2 of those guys have kids going back 15 years. Maybe my friends are just smart. Who knows.

[2LeTTeRS]

Only 2 of those guys have kids going back 15 years. Maybe my friends are just smart. Who knows.

Maybe. Also possible that women consider them un****able.

[longtime lurker]

It takes true fortitude to have control over ones own impulses.

It's called self control Motherf*cker...

But why need self control when you could just stay single and **** a variety of women. I'm not talking about cheating there's just too much to lose when you go down that path. Just seein a girl sometimes makes me wanna bang and she doesn't necessarily have to be super hot.

[DeuceWallaces]

Maybe. Also possible that women consider them un****able.

They **** quite a bit. Just with their girlfriends. Guess I just don't hang out with low-lifes.

[AlphaWolf24]

monogamy between a mother and father benefits their children to a great degree, this has been pretty much proven. If monogamy were to ever "go away" I think it would do damage to us.

perhaps "marriage" will go away...but not monogamy


True....

But I don't think they need to have their mother and father be " married" to each other or be in a monogamous relationship with each other.

what the child needs is 2 parents who love and care for the child....spend time with the child.




example: say Mom and Dad both work 40+ hours a week.... Child goes to school in the Morning, Parents pick up child in the evening, Parents spend maybe 2 - 3 hours with child per day. ( how much of those few hours are actually quality 1 on 1 time?)

Mom and Dad could easily spend same amount of quality time with their children and not be in a monogamous relationship.

In fact if the Mom and Dad are clearly not happy together....it makes much more sense to separate and be happy......vs staying together and arguing all the time / fighting in front of the child......IMO that is much worse.

[AlphaWolf24]

But why need self control when you could just stay single and **** a variety of women. I'm not talking about cheating there's just too much to lose when you go down that path. Just seein a girl sometimes makes me wanna bang and she doesn't necessarily have to be super hot.


This....



I think some men have alot of insecurities ( which is normal....just varying degrees) and they need a woman who they feel only loves them.

they are filling that void of insecurities with a lie.....because they are suppressing their instinct and happiness in order to keep the Lie alive.


I would assume a small % of men do this...I just don't think it's healthy

[2LeTTeRS]

True....

But I don't think they need to have their mother and father be " married" to each other or be in a monogamous relationship with each other.

what the child needs is 2 parents who love and care for the child....spend time with the child.

Sounds simple in theory; but in actuality it generally goes much different -- especially if the parent who has custody of the child harbors any resentment for the other parent. If that happens you have to worry about missing all kinds of special moments with your child, being bad-mouthed in front of your child, and costs from legal battles as well as child support; and lets not even mention the possibility that she brings all kinds of assholes around your child.

[~primetime~]

True....

But I don't think they need to have their mother and father be " married" to each other or be in a monogamous relationship with each other.

what the child needs is 2 parents who love and care for the child....spend time with the child.




example: say Mom and Dad both work 40+ hours a week.... Child goes to school in the Morning, Parents pick up child in the evening, Parents spend maybe 2 - 3 hours with child per day. ( how much of those few hours are actually quality 1 on 1 time?)

Mom and Dad could easily spend same amount of quality time with their children and not be in a monogamous relationship.

In fact if the Mom and Dad are clearly not happy together....it makes much more sense to separate and be happy......vs staying together and arguing all the time / fighting in front of the child......IMO that is much worse.
No, there are lots of kids that grow up with 2 parents that are divorced and each parent still loves and cares and spend time with them. But research has shown that humans are much better off when the parents are living together under the same roof and in a monogamous relationship.

I agree that two parents who are constantly fighting and should be divorced may be more damaging though.

[~primetime~]

Children Divorce Statistics (http://www.children-and-divorce.com/children-divorce-statistics.html)