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hateraid
03-16-2007, 01:32 PM
This question can only be posed to the people that have seen 300 or Troy. That or know their mythology well.
Of the two armries, who'd will on a battle with a level playing feild.
The Myrmidons (Achilles Army) or The Spartans?

Zombles
03-16-2007, 01:36 PM
Myrmidons. Spartans were good but they didn't believe in using archers.
Achilles would've torn through them.

plus they came from ants.
GOD ants.

Horde of Temujin
03-16-2007, 01:46 PM
The myrmidons had Achilles who was practicly immortal so id take them.

hateraid
03-16-2007, 01:51 PM
Shoot, I didn't know thats how you spelled Myrmidons. sorry guys.

GOBB
03-16-2007, 02:34 PM
I dunno.


The myrmidons had Achilles who was practicly immortal so id take them.

So were those immortals in "300" ands Spartans kicked thier ass.

Horde of Temujin
03-16-2007, 02:54 PM
I dunno.



So were those immortals in "300" ands Spartans kicked thier ass.

those immortals were called so because they always numbered 10,000 when some were killed more would come in and fill the ranks,

ZeN
03-16-2007, 03:42 PM
If were talking only about the fighters seen on the big screen.. then I put my vote in with The Spartans. The took on the bow and arrows, and still looked fantastic..

hateraid
03-18-2007, 05:45 PM
Going to see 300 tonight. Pretty stoked. Hopefully it may help answer my question.

Lebron23
08-23-2008, 12:46 PM
Achilles is the greatest Warrior on the Greek Mythology, and I think the Myrmidons are half immortal like Hercules because their first King was the Son of Zeus, and they are a much organize fighter than the Spartans in 300.

Beside the fact that Achilles was already a trained fighter, when he was still a child, and the only way to kill him is by shooting a poisonous arrow to the heel of Achilles.

Heretik32
08-23-2008, 12:48 PM
You do not, by any chance, put any historical weight on a movie like "Troy" or even less "300", I hope.

Sicknote
08-23-2008, 01:03 PM
Myrmidons would own. I read the translated mythology awhile ago and they just sound badass.

JEFFERSON MONEY
08-23-2008, 01:04 PM
Lol phuck pansy azz poopshoot bugalo Greek Freekz.

Roman legionz, Mongolion cav archerz, Japsamuraiz, and Ostrogoth Huskarlz are where they're at.

Az for the original question.. without a doubt the Achillez-led crew.

Sicknote
08-23-2008, 01:08 PM
Ok, Jef Money.

Legions + Samurais vs Huskarls and Mongols

Level playing field, one giant ass plain.

kingpala
08-23-2008, 01:16 PM
Ok, Jef Money.

Legions + Samurais vs Huskarls and Mongols

Level playing field, one giant ass plain.

Tough one. Mongolian archer tactics would basically be useless against Legions. Some people also forget that Samurai used horses as well, so I'd probably go with L+S. What's the Huskarl's strength? Militia fighting?

In that sense, it would be a great battle.

JEFFERSON MONEY
08-23-2008, 01:33 PM
Ok, Jef Money.

Legions + Samurais vs Huskarls and Mongols

Level playing field, one giant ass plain.

Former quite easily, out of sheer brutality, discipline, and weaponry.

Played wayy too much CIvilization back in the day so opinionz could be skewed.

Add mountainous regionz (Steppes), uneven flatland, forests etc.. and the latter.

Lebowsky
08-23-2008, 01:42 PM
I believe the highly-structured and organised spartan phalanx units from the Greco-Persian wars would defeat the bronze-age Myrmidons without much trouble, if it wasn't for Achilles, who was a phenomenal fighting force himself.

High Potential
08-23-2008, 03:40 PM
In the beginning of Troy doesn't Achilles go up personally against the strongest Spartan warrior ever, Ajax I think, and completely dominates him?

Lebowsky
08-23-2008, 03:44 PM
In the beginning of Troy doesn't Achilles go up personally against the strongest Spartan warrior ever, Ajax I think, and completely dominates him?

Ajax and Achilles were cousins, they fought on the same side. So no, they didn't. And none of them was spartan.

Lebron23
08-23-2008, 04:04 PM
Achilles killed Hector, the older brother of Paris to avenge the death of his best friend Patroclus.

High Potential
08-23-2008, 05:13 PM
Ajax and Achilles were cousins, they fought on the same side. So no, they didn't. And none of them was spartan.
Well in the beginning of he movie Troy, they are fighting the Spartans, then Sparta sends it's champion and Achilles side sends him and Achilles pwns the Spartan guy. Who was that Spartan guy?

Lebowsky
08-23-2008, 05:46 PM
Well in the beginning of he movie Troy, they are fighting the Spartans, then Sparta sends it's champion and Achilles side sends him and Achilles pwns the Spartan guy. Who was that Spartan guy?

I haven't seen that movie and I don't think I will.

rezznor
08-24-2008, 12:56 AM
Achilles killed Hector, the older brother of Paris to avenge the death of his best friend Patroclus.
they changed it into cousins in the movie, but the old stories hint that achilles and patroclus were actually lovers, thats why achilles goes ape**** when patroclus gets killed.

gigantes
02-03-2015, 05:36 PM
haha


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Andrei89
02-04-2015, 10:22 AM
Well in the beginning of he movie Troy, they are fighting the Spartans, then Sparta sends it's champion and Achilles side sends him and Achilles pwns the Spartan guy. Who was that Spartan guy?


Those were not Spartans that Agamemnom conquered in that scene. The true Spartans, from Sparta, belonged to Agamemnon's brother which Hector kills later on.

Ajax was indeed a Spartan, which you will also see in the movie who fights together with the Greeks. Hectors kills him too.

gigantes
02-04-2015, 12:05 PM
Those were not Spartans that Agamemnom conquered in that scene. The true Spartans, from Sparta, belonged to Agamemnon's brother which Hector kills later on.

Ajax was indeed a Spartan, which you will also see in the movie who fights together with the Greeks. Hectors kills him too.
homer simpson's (haha, sorry) trojan war actually has historical basis from what i understand.

a lot of greek mythology is metaphorical like most other mythology, but the trojan war really did seem to happen IIRC.

details are sketchy i'm sure, but my folks went to turkey a while back and that's when i learned that troy is a city that went through seven builds or so across the millennia, among other facts.